We all love the experience that CM / AOSP / AOKP etc. is bringing us.
What native functionality will be affected when running these rom on the phone?
- will the awesome sony camera software be ported to the new rom? If not, what features will we lose?
-is the so called 'bravia engine' tied to the native rom or is it closer to the hardware and will work with other roms?
-etc.
With AOSP/CM/AOKP I'm sure we might lose many camera features - don't think any of them support HDR natively etc. Also, Bravia Engine is proprietary ( i think ) and surely won't be included in CM - maybe in other custom roms, who knows, but I wouldn't count on it.
It appears then a customization of the original rom will be the better deal in this case.
Was hoping the sony camera app can be ported and that the bravia engine is lower level code.
Some features should be portable like xloud and soný's walkman but not sure about bravia and camera since they have way too much dependencies used which is stuck in some binary files which sony doesn't release the source so pretty much no I think.
I'll make custom stock rom so you will loose nothing using them only problem can be BE that won't work on unlocked bootloaders, but I hope Sony fixed this issue
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krabappel2548 said:
I'll make custom stock rom so you will loose nothing using them only problem can be BE that won't work on unlocked bootloaders, but I hope Sony fixed this issue
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So adding a feature like brightness slider in the notification area to the tweaked stock rom is doable?
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So adding a feature like brightness slider in the notification area to the tweaked stock rom is doable?
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Of course Should be fairly easy.
On other Sony devices, by unlocking your bootloader to flash custom rom, you loose the Bravia Engine....
Gregz78 said:
On other Sony devices, by unlocking your bootloader to flash custom rom, you loose the Bravia Engine....
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we'll lose BE just by unlocking the bootloader?
hebbe said:
we'll lose BE just by unlocking the bootloader?
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No, unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with bravia engine. You'll lose it when you flash a custom rom that is not based on Sony's firmware.
EDIT: I've just read that unlocking/rooting your phone might disable DRM protected features due to security reasons. And Bravia Engine is one of them.
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No, unlocking the bootloader has nothing to do with bravia engine. You'll lose it when you flash a custom rom that is not based on Sony's firmware.
EDIT: I've just read that unlocking/rooting your phone might disable DRM protected features due to security reasons. And Bravia Engine is one of them.
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Who said that?
Bravia engine is a feature and when they say you lose DRM means you just can't use any apps that makes use of DRM certificates like those apps where you could rent videos on your phone. Was it video unlimited? And yeah TrackID(on the past but not now)
I have no idea - I actually find it strange, and since that's only something I read somewhere on The Verge - don't take it seriously. Somebody has to confirm this.
Ok So it's not true alot of topics could have emerged about bravia if this was the case. DRM means digital rights management and I don't see any connection about digital rights and bravia engine.
I doubt we lose BE. Let's see though.
I plan on staying stock, and probably run KA roms on it. CM10.1 will kill all features :/
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I doubt we lose BE. Let's see though.
I plan on staying stock, and probably run KA roms on it. CM10.1 will kill all features :/
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"KA roms"?
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"KA roms"?
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Its the roms that krabappel2548 makes.
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Its the roms that krabappel2548 makes.
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Sorry for my ignorance; switching from a bootloader bearly unlockable, driverless, pain in the ass motorola atrix device to this apparently developer friendly beauty. Could you point me to some screenshots of kravappel's mods?
Qwerty123 \m/ said:
I doubt we lose BE. Let's see though.
I plan on staying stock, and probably run KA roms on it. CM10.1 will kill all features :/
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Xperia S lost it in ICS. Strange enough, it work on GB.
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redThd said:
Sorry for my ignorance; switching from a bootloader bearly unlockable, driverless, pain in the ass motorola atrix device to this apparently developer friendly beauty. Could you point me to some screenshots of kravappel's mods?
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Check SSpeed ROMS on Xperia S section.
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sorry to ask something ignorant guys, but on my HTC incredible s right now, there are many roms with the bravia engine option.
so, would it be hard to add it back in if it gets lost?
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Ok So it's not true alot of topics could have emerged about bravia if this was the case. DRM means digital rights management and I don't see any connection about digital rights and bravia engine.
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I requote myself here this time looks like I'm wrong Bravia engine does not seem to function when unlocking the bootloader now based on my research... Damn
Related
left hand side: bravia engine on
right hand side: bravia engine off
EDIT: mirror added as 4shared now requires registration
WARNING: LEAKED ICS MAY BRICK YOUR PHONE Public Service Announcement: ICS Leaks and Recovery - HARDBRICK WARNING
it is suggested to follow the installation procedures and copy the files manaully if you worry about bricking your phone
for developers and rom makers:
- pls kindly let me know or put my name in your post if you put this mod into your roms so that i know who is using it. this is because experiences in the sgs2 one tell me users will only ask for help in your thread and they even dont know which gallery they r using, since most of the roms just put the words "bravia engine" or "new gallery" and that's all. i cannot, and in fact impossible, to read every post in every thread to help them to solve the problems. what i want is to consolidate the questions and problems so that they can be identified easily, and to help ppl to solve the problems.
more, pls add a link either to this post, or the original howto at http://ykkfive.blogspot.com/2012/01/sgs2-gallery-sony-bravia-engine-demo.html for users reference
thank you
a few notes for users:
- ALWAYS DO A BACKUP FIRST!!
- pls, pls forget anything u've seen before about the bravia engine and forget about the prop files. there is NO NEED to modify any file yourself to make it works
- if u wanna use the bravia engine to render/redraw ur wallpaper, u need to pick the wallpaper again in my modded gallery since the existing wallpaper is cached/stored and the system will not re-generate the wallpaper each time the phone boots up
- all steps in the installation guide for sgs2 should be the same for sgn and so far i couldnt find any difference between them
- the only difference i observed is about the performance. in sgs2, the image will be rendered almost instantly (on my modded sgs2 at least, i dono how it performs in stock rom). but on this sgn (not tuned yet), the image will be rendered piece by piece from the bottom right to the top left and u can see that visually
for more details/screenshots/download: Galaxy Note Sony Bravia Engine ICS mod - http://ykkfive.blogspot.com/2012/05/galaxy-note-sony-bravia-engine-ics-mod.html
click here for Android 2.3.6 Gingerbread version Galaxy Note Sony Bravia Engine - http://ykkfive.blogspot.com/2012/03/galaxy-note-with-sony-bravia-engine.html
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Mmmm tempting so assuming this works with the latest cm9 build
will this be compatiable with miui v 4??
will give it a try later on thx mate!
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Um no...
Good job thanks
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have u tried it before? have u tried mine or the previous fake one?
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Mmmm tempting so assuming this works with the latest cm9 build
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MR_EVIL said:
will this be compatiable with miui v 4??
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not for cm/miui/aokp/aosp atm
this mod only affects gallery3d right?
Not interested...
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Not interested...
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Such a liar.
If you trully weren't, then you wouldnt have posted here.
It could be a placebo, it might be not. There's no way to know until you try it yourself.
I'm just waiting for it to become AOSP-compatible. Then it will work on all the imilka/m3dd0g/neobuddy/miui roms.
bamboo12 said:
this mod only affects gallery3d right?
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yes, only gallery3d is affected for now
ryn888 said:
Not interested...
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you must be very busy all time by telling ppl u r not interested in the mods u don like here, mate
ykk_five said:
have u tried it before? have u tried mine or the previous fake one?
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Wy would i try it? Do not have a sony phone but a Note with the best screen of all phones.
robertberma said:
Wy would i try it? Do not have a sony phone but a Note with the best screen of all phones.
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so u just "think" it is a placebo for this reason?
the screen it self is only a hardware device to display the outputs.
so even if you got the best speakers in the world, u wont gain with a nomal cd player or fm/mono radio for instance
but, of coz, i don mind if ppl don like it since ppl have different preferences
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so u just "think" it is a placebo for this reason?
the screen it self is only a hardware device to display the outputs.
so even if you got the best speakers in the world, u wont gain with a nomal cd player or fm/mono radio for instance
but, of coz, i don mind if ppl don like it since ppl have different preferences
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thanks,
will try this out on midteam 1.1..
hope it can implement in camera lib also..
nameejokerx said:
thanks,
will try this out on midteam 1.1..
hope it can implement in camera lib also..
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u mean, view it right after taking a photo by clicking at the small thumbnail at the bottom right?
emmm it is only for GB roms? would work for criskelo ics v2 rom ? ;D
Bro.. pls confirm if this works for CM9 ??
Hey Guy's! This is my first post, so I will attempt to make my question brief...
Once the Jelly Bean update arrives on our phones (the TL) can we get the BE2 onto it?
After searching the forums for a little, there was a mod that achieved this, but with the apparent requirement that the phone be running ICS.
So basically, can we, after the update to JB, get the BE2 that the newer Sony phones are packing?
-Cheers
Anyone?
Should I view the lack of replies as an indication that there is there no way this is possible?
-Cheers
Doesn't seem possible for now. I included be2 in my jb Rom but it's not working in video. Tried replacing sine files with the ones from V jb Rom but that didn't fix it.
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Doesn't seem possible for now. I included be2 in my jb Rom but it's not working in video. Tried replacing sine files with the ones from V jb Rom but that didn't fix it.
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That's a shame, definitely something that needs to be looked at in the future
Thanks for the reply mate.
-Cheers
I found a post for all phones running 2.2 - 4.2. They made BE2 and XLoud working. I lost the post but it's in the forum somewhere..
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I found a post for all phones running 2.2 - 4.2. They made BE2 and XLoud working. I lost the post but it's in the forum somewhere..
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I have be2 on my xperia tl, root the xperia tl then download pimp my Rom off Google pla;y then there will be a option to put be2 on it make sure u install clockwork recovery on ur phone
AndroidHoneyComb said:
I have be2 on my xperia tl, root the xperia tl then download pimp my Rom off Google pla;y then there will be a option to put be2 on it make sure u install clockwork recovery on ur phone
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Okay but are you certain that it is working? Can you take two clear screenshots of a video with Bravia off and Bravia on?
Just tried it, doesn't work on movies, only album.
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AndroidHoneyComb said:
I have be2 on my xperia tl, root the xperia tl then download pimp my Rom off Google pla;y then there will be a option to put be2 on it make sure u install clockwork recovery on ur phone
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You are awesome, can't believe I couldn't find anything about it. Thank you very much.
Is there anything on getting clearaudio+ yet?
-Cheers & thank you again
xenomorph856 said:
You are awesome, can't believe I couldn't find anything about it. Thank you very much.
Is there anything on getting clearaudio+ yet?
-Cheers & thank you again
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Ah and sorry if the sentence makes no since (i typed that on my phone) lol
Finally found it!
AndroidHoneyComb said:
I have be2 on my xperia tl, root the xperia tl then download pimp my Rom off Google pla;y then there will be a option to put be2 on it make sure u install clockwork recovery on ur phone
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Wow,I can't believe some one already doing it!
Thanks!
AndroidHoneyComb said:
I have be2 on my xperia tl, root the xperia tl then download pimp my Rom off Google pla;y then there will be a option to put be2 on it make sure u install clockwork recovery on ur phone
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The Pimp My Rom is very nice and useful. Thanks.
Still, BE2 does not work for me, unlock bootloader running Curiosity 2.4. It actually makes the video and pictures looks worse after install BE2. I guess it should work for locked bootloader. cheers.
Hi,
Sorry novice question but, is it possible to install some of the stock Sony Apps onto a custom ROM such as CyanogenMod? I am running CyanogenMod at the moment and I love it, fast, stable, and without much battery drain. I would love to be able to use the Sony stock camera though.
Is it possible, like installing Gapps, but Sapps?
Thanks
Hi,
apps from Sony "usually" need SONY's own framework. Sadly, the framework itself is not opensourced and cannot be used on other roms.
This is the reply you would usually get when asking other rom developers. Sadly, its true tho.
greglord said:
Hi,
apps from Sony "usually" need SONY's own framework. Sadly, the framework itself is not opensourced and cannot be used on other roms.
This is the reply you would usually get when asking other rom developers. Sadly, its true tho.
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Thanks for the insight, it is appreciated.
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Thanks for the insight, it is appreciated.
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THere are mods , as far as I know I have cynogen mod on my Galaxy note 2 , and I installed Album , Movies and Walkman and runs perfectly , inicuding the launcher so , any other apps u are expecting..
theirs even small apps mod to make that working , only major thing which isn't ported yet is the stock camera and proper bravia engine etc
those apps need sony framework which isn't included in cm rom
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theirs even small apps mod to make that working , only major thing which isn't ported yet is the stock camera and proper bravia engine etc
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Link?
Michealtbh said:
Link?
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try this for media apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060033
Ben Ling said:
try this for media apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060033
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Thanks, but I'm more interested in small apps for Cyanogenmod
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228969
I'm still trying to get my head around the concept of loosing the Bravia 2 Engine when you unlock the bootloader on a XSP. Having done some research I have found that Pimp my ROM allows the Bravia 2 engine to be added to any ROM and there is flashable version of BE2 (and some minor build.prop editing) bouncing around some other Sony phone's threads that allow it to be added.
I just don't understand. How can the XSP loose BE2 when unlocking the BL if there are multiple methods of adding to any other ROM?
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I just don't understand. How can the XSP loose BE2 when unlocking the BL if there are multiple methods of adding to any other ROM?
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It just does. It does with all Xperia phones.
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It just does. It does with all Xperia phones.
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I think you missed the point. If it can be added to any other ROM, it can be added back into a XSP ROM when it is lost after unlocking the bootloader. I guess should have asked, is there any difference in the way the ROM would use BE2 after it has been "lost" by unlocking bootloader but added back in to the ROM by flashing libs/files and adding the required lines in build.prop?
Hi,
i have a Xperia Z1 with non-unlockable Bootloader. I just love AOSP-Roms but those Roms are just for UB. But can someone make a AOSP-Rom for LB? I think many Users would love that...
Please post questions in the Q&A section,
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And to answer your question. No, it needs an unlocked bootloader as AOSP roms require a different kernel to the stock Sony one.
Just to add to the above answer: no, the kernel is different so therefore since you cannot flash a custom kernel on LB, you won't be able to use AOSP.
I think he means use Sony kernel but try port aosp to sonys firmware
And why it work for xperia sp?
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And why it work for xperia sp?
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Give link for this.
The Xperia SP have just 4.3 and on this Kernel work a Custom-Rom wich is at 4.4.4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development/kk-nexus-p-c-t2835662
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The Xperia SP have just 4.3 and on this Kernel work a Custom-Rom wich is at 4.4.4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development/kk-nexus-p-c-t2835662
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:facepalm::facepalm:
It's built around that kernel so no surprise...
And why we cant make this for our device?
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And why we cant make this for our device?
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well apparently you can flash kernel on LB on xperia SP, not on Z1.
If you think otherwise, show us how it's done
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And why we cant make this for our device?
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Well i can see that all of that "features" can be made only with root access and Xposed framework modules, and few mods.
Deep in framework, rom is still close to sony stock rom.
For example, everything you can make with apps or mods, except OTA update (for pac), and CM themes.
Everything else is pretty much on google play, and some mods on XDA.
If you want pure AOSP feel, you need to unlock bootloader, this is, how to say, kang version of PAC.
If you say me how to get the flip settings from AOSP on 4.4.4 i would be happy
There is an xposed mod for it
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I used it but it ends in Force Close from System UI
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I used it but it ends in Force Close from System UI
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Tell me what did you do
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I installed the Module Activated it and reboot. But if i look at the quick settings there are the normal sony one and then system ui crashes
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I installed the Module Activated it and reboot. But if i look at the quick settings there are the normal sony one and then system ui crashes
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Did you read everything careffully.
I know how to mod Android, im not a noob . I did all right and carefully. And just if you want know, im on iHackers v5.0 Beta
Xperia Flip Xposed Module is outdated it don't work on 4.4
Yeah i know that. I just wait while Kexec is in development