Unlock Windows Phone 8 - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does someone unlock Windows Phone 8 OS ?
Will someone do it ?
Thanks for info.

Yeah, when they have bootlevel 0 access, maybe it could be done
As I have heard, and understood, the chips are hard-encoded, for every device, so the JB cannot be achieved Will it ever be? Who knows, this is quite a challenge, but I am no optimist.

Hard coded?? Wow those SOBs. They really need to rethink as to why they are not selling as many phones as they would love to.

LOL. 99% of earth's population does not know or care about the "hard coded" chip (it is not hard coded, it is analogical thus it cant be reprogrammed)

Scumbag Microsoft

Just a question on this. So, boot level stuff is not posable because of encryption. So as of now, Custom roms are out, not possable, YET.
With this being known, what most of us would be happy with is a suto Interop unlock. This would allow max unsigned apps and maybe some minor system level apps (think Advanced Config type apps) maybe bosted with a root tools type of app (almost a custom rom but, not). This stuff will all run on the OS, not the boot level. Shouldn't this be possable once someone finds a hole someplace ?
So, full unlock with custom roms will not be possable but, at least we can have a step there to have some fun with out phones till someone actually figures it out (slim chance if it's encrypted)
mcosmin222 said:
LOL. 99% of earth's population does not know or care about the "hard coded" chip (it is not hard coded, it is analogical thus it cant be reprogrammed)
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And I agree, becides hobbiests and hackers (and XDA readers ), no one really cares about a unlock, that is about 98% of of the Windows Phone users. That does not mean we (the 2-3%) dont want it...

MSFT clearly does not care about hackers like us. Otherwise they would give us more APIs to program with.
They care about the bad type of hackers.

In WP7 we only had Full Unlock on devices that had a Custom ROM flashed onto it. This does not mean that it is not possible to exploit other loopholes but the NT Kernel is kind of a harder nut to crack than the old CE Kernel powering WP7. Basically you would need a vulnerability in a system App to get your code running. Then that code would have to escape from it's jail and acquire a higher permission level. Then I guess the first step would be to write something to the registry that would allow:
a) to sideload apps (basically what the developer unlock does)
b) to elevate permissions on those sideloaded apps (similar to what the Root Tools were able to do)
We only had two ways ever to get any Unlocks without flashing a CustomROM on WP7. The first was the original ChevronWP7 and the second was Window Break which only worked on certain Samsung devices and was quickly patched. Aside from that everything concentrated on the CustomROM route or on how an Unlock achieved previously could be conserved through system updates (Nodo to Mango).
So it might be quite some time before we even see something like the Interop Unlocks. Even most Android devices were routed by flashing a modified kernel.

It's been a while, has there been ANY progress on a Unlock even if interop or something for Windows Phone 8 ? I have a dev unlock and it limits me to 3 apps but, what I miss the most is apps like Advanced config giving me unlimited options for colors...

I do not believe so.

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[Q] Question about Anti Theft SW on market

There are so many SW available ..for lost or stolen phone.
The protection / safeguard features offered by them are impressive.
But, I feel that anyone who can deliberately
Hard Reset the phone installed with these SW
can effectively negate or bypass the protection.
Perhaps there are other ways too which I am not aware of.
Unless there is some form of protection to prevent
this.
Can this be done ? Is there a way to fully protect your
phone from any tampering unless a password is entered ?
Thank you.
I guess not, but I remember having WaveSecure installed on my G1 in the system. If the thief would then wipe your phone, the program is still installed on it. A thief would have to completely install a new rom to wipe off the program. That's the best solution you can get right now I guess, but for that you'll have to be rooted. ( https://www.wavesecure.com/blog/post/turning-on-gps-remotely.aspx )
I don't know if this is possible with other programs, but am actually interested. Anyone knows about a free program that can track / wipe / lock stuff up and installed in the android system?
There is a project called prey which i'm testing. It's free but not (yet) as advanced as some others.
Google on Prey project and it should come up.
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Escobarretje said:
I guess not, but I remember having WaveSecure installed on my G1 in the system. If the thief would then wipe your phone, the program is still installed on it. A thief would have to completely install a new rom to wipe off the program. That's the best solution you can get right now I guess, but for that you'll have to be rooted. ( https://www.wavesecure.com/blog/post/turning-on-gps-remotely.aspx )
I don't know if this is possible with other programs, but am actually interested. Anyone knows about a free program that can track / wipe / lock stuff up and installed in the android system?
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Perhaps a solution is to have a Unique ID Key.
Without which the phone cannot be tampered with, rooted, hard reset
or anything be done to it without this Master Key feature.
The Unique ID key should be one off and issued by the manufacturer
for each phone. And this key is required even by the service station
to open the phone. If the phone is sold by the owner then he
can provide the ID key to the buyer with a small test feature
embedded within for the buyer to verify if key is the right one.
This may help in some ways as the thief would then be forced to
return the phone to the owner for some monetary consideration
rather than be stuck with a brick.
Today's smart phones contain a lot of information and data potential
and these could be much more valuable ( to the owner ) than
the phone itself. And many more new capabilities are being
introduced such as e wallet and e credit cards etc.
And it is not convenient always to update/backup the data on to a PC etc.
The data on the SD card is not an issue as it can always
be saved after encryption.
Read recently that in UK a phone is stolen every 12 seconds.
I am sure the figures for stolen phones are high in other countries too.
I am using Theft Aware.
It is NOT overwritten by a hard reset.
It can only be overwritten by installing a new ROM which is a significant additional protection against the average thief.
It does not require an internet connection (remotely controlled by SMS)
It only costs 3€.
It works flawlessly on my Optimus 2X.
I have successfully tested most of the features.
The only disadvantage is that I have to reconfigure it after each ROM update.
luik said:
I am using Theft Aware.
The only disadvantage is that I have to reconfigure it after each ROM update.
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But it doesn't take long to reconfigure. I agree Theft Aware is excellent on the O2X.
I use Ceberus on mine and androidlost on by backup defy. Ceberus has more features

Nexus 7 Security

Greetings,
I tried to ask this in the NexusRoot Toolkit thread, but I need 10 posts.
My question has to do with Nexus 7 Security and Rooting. Can I turn the developer options back off after rooting, and still have the 'rooted' experience? I'm concerned with any malware infections, and also exploiting the device using a Cellebrite UFED:
w w w .cellebrite.com/mobile-forensics-products/forensics-products.html
I will be encrypting the entire device using Android encryption. Anything to watch out for when enabling encryption, in relation to rooting? Is the max unlock/encryption length still 16 characters on Jelly bean?
Thanks,
RF
Well, you are defending against two different things there.
ufed goes through the usb client mode while you would be defending installed software from the network for whatever malware concerns you might have.
I don't know if anything in user space can defend against a ufed if they want your data bad enough. I have seen it suggested that if you put something like Ubuntu on the device the ufed wouldn't know what to do with it. But I am sure they have plenty of tech specialists who they could then turn the device over to.
A check at a traffic stop might be something you could defend against. But if they have a subpoena and time...well the laws protect them not us.
You could use PDroid to stop apps from having permissions. That seems like the best defense to me for regular everyday data mining. We have not brought it to Jelly Bean yet, but it shouldn't be long.
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Thanks Sir. This is my first Tablet, and my first 'DIY' Unlock & Root. I do currently run Whispercore on a Nexus S though, but that was one click rooting from the installer and I don't touch it. As long as I can power down at a stop, UFED is spinning in the wind with WhisperCore. I want the same functionality from Jelly bean, but am unfamiliar with exactly how it works compared to Moxie's solution. I know that USB Debugging Enabled is an exploitable hole that devices like UFED use, that's why I wanted to know if I can disable all the developer options again, after rooting, with no ill effect.
I also block Android GPS Daemon from communicating, with Whisper Monitor, so hopefully Jelly Bean will have some firewalls able to do this soon.
Thanks for your reply,
RF
You should be alright with malware as long as you're careful what applications and ROMS you're downloading and from where.
Ronaldo Forenucci said:
Thanks Sir. This is my first Tablet, and my first 'DIY' Unlock & Root. I do currently run Whispercore on a Nexus S though, but that was one click rooting from the installer and I don't touch it. As long as I can power down at a stop, UFED is spinning in the wind with WhisperCore. I want the same functionality from Jelly bean, but am unfamiliar with exactly how it works compared to Moxie's solution. I know that USB Debugging Enabled is an exploitable hole that devices like UFED use, that's why I wanted to know if I can disable all the developer options again, after rooting, with no ill effect.
I also block Android GPS Daemon from communicating, with Whisper Monitor, so hopefully Jelly Bean will have some firewalls able to do this soon.
Thanks for your reply,
RF
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Yes after rooting you can turn it off. (In fact you can turn off developer options completely, and install apps from unknown sources is labeled under security). Only thing you won't be able to do is side load apps or use like titanium backup to restore apps.
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Ronaldo Forenucci said:
Thanks Sir. This is my first Tablet, and my first 'DIY' Unlock & Root. I do currently run Whispercore on a Nexus S though, but that was one click rooting from the installer and I don't touch it. As long as I can power down at a stop, UFED is spinning in the wind with WhisperCore. I want the same functionality from Jelly bean, but am unfamiliar with exactly how it works compared to Moxie's solution. I know that USB Debugging Enabled is an exploitable hole that devices like UFED use, that's why I wanted to know if I can disable all the developer options again, after rooting, with no ill effect.
I also block Android GPS Daemon from communicating, with Whisper Monitor, so hopefully Jelly Bean will have some firewalls able to do this soon.
Thanks for your reply,
RF
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I thought whispercore got purchased (by twitter, I think? Maybe?) and is only available for the nexus s. Maybe you plan to sideload it? I haven't personally found a way to try it yet.
But yeah, you can shut off adb mounting. I have actually spent a good chunk of my day looking into how to require a passcode for USB mounting in the kernel, for an unrelated project.
I haven't determined whether the multiuser claims are sufficient. I have muktiuser through botbrew, but that is a little more complicated than what I need there.
You are correct, I have a Nexus S also, running WhisperCore. The N7 will have to run Google's built in implementation of encryption. Thanks for all the replies. I'll Unlock & Root, and then disable Developer Options again. In the 'off state' Google's encryption should protect from UFED type attacks. I'll probably install Avast! (if it runs on the N7) for malware protection.
RF
Yeah from my understanding of UFED your pretty well protected as long as you don't have USB debugging on; so while not ideal, only turning it on when you need it would be the easiest way to secure the device. (along with all the normal stuff like having an actual password etc)
Considering how much apple fanboys tout the iphone's security, its fairly ironic that UFED can still pull some of their info regardless of settings whereas on android if USB debugging is off and a password is used UFED is useless.
I know, right :good: Is max password length still 16 characters? It is on Gingerbread. I wish this thing had a USB slot...I'd love to be able to use my Yubikey with it. I wonder if the NFC Yubikey version would work on the Lock Screen?
RF

Android Device Manager

In case you didn't know, Google has silently implemented FREE tracking for almost all androids. It also allows you to erase the phone if you feel that it's necessary, all you have to do is enable it as a device admin. I realize there have been apps on the market for a long time now that do this (and more) however Google doesn't require you to install or update any apps to use this service and from my brief testing it seems to work amazingly well right off the bat.
Go here and bookmark: https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
it's about time they did this. i've hated having to install lookout or avast for decent location and remote wipe. now, that is more. further proof why you don't need an AV on your phone.
The only thing missing that I would like to see in future updates would be the ability to remotely lock the device so that a thief would have a harder time fooling around with the phone before you can track it. I've been using Where's My Droid for a long time but it lost the web interface tracking a while ago and that's been a bummer.
Is there any way to uninstall this useless feature? I never use GPS in my phone (because of the horrible reception, also because I am able to navigate without it), and also do not lose it.
Also, I already encrypted my device, so people can't do anything with it when they find it.
Also, whilst I am at it, I really do not like the way google forces their "content" down the wide opened throat of the community. I did not like the way they went with google services framework, and how you can't do jack sh*t without it, and I do not like the updates and "progression" they make.
Soo, any idea on how to get that off my phone?
Cheers!
PS: Everything I wrote is my own opinion, and if yours differs, at least RESPECT mine. If not, I could not care less about yours and do not get upset if I make fun of it. (Just in case some fanboy tries to attack me )
IRKONIK said:
Is there any way to uninstall this useless feature? I never use GPS in my phone (because of the horrible reception, also because I am able to navigate without it), and also do not lose it.
Also, I already encrypted my device, so people can't do anything with it when they find it.
Also, whilst I am at it, I really do not like the way google forces their "content" down the wide opened throat of the community. I did not like the way they went with google services framework, and how you can't do jack sh*t without it, and I do not like the updates and "progression" they make.
Soo, any idea on how to get that off my phone?
Cheers!
PS: Everything I wrote is my own opinion, and if yours differs, at least RESPECT mine. If not, I could not care less about yours and do not get upset if I make fun of it. (Just in case some fanboy tries to attack me )
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you can disable the google play services in a custom ROM (i think it's built-in to android 4.2.2) but it'll break the YouTube app, and as you said, you're limited without it. as far as like older ROMs go (ICS, GB, etc.), the app isn't built-in and you can uninstall it.
I personally find google play services somewhat useful (especially now with the ADM), and i use YouTube occasionally so i need it for that, but we all have our own opinions, as you said, and I'd personally like to keep things civil.
and if you hate the services that much, you can actually reflash the ROM you're using without Gapps. it will be a limited experience, but the Play Services won't be there
IRKONIK said:
Is there any way to uninstall this useless feature? I never use GPS in my phone (because of the horrible reception, also because I am able to navigate without it), and also do not lose it.
Also, I already encrypted my device, so people can't do anything with it when they find it.
Also, whilst I am at it, I really do not like the way google forces their "content" down the wide opened throat of the community. I did not like the way they went with google services framework, and how you can't do jack sh*t without it, and I do not like the updates and "progression" they make.
Soo, any idea on how to get that off my phone?
Cheers!
PS: Everything I wrote is my own opinion, and if yours differs, at least RESPECT mine. If not, I could not care less about yours and do not get upset if I make fun of it. (Just in case some fanboy tries to attack me )
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Other than what was already said I don't think there's a way to remove it, but just look at it this way... it doesn't take up any space and won't just activate by itself, so it's really not inconveniencing you in any way. I understand you don't want to be force-fed features that you don't want, and I absolutely respect that, but for many (myself included) this was a long overdue feature that will no doubt help many many users. This kinda stuff comes with the territory of owning a 'connected' device like a smartphone, so if you really want to get off the grid, just go back to a dumb-phone (yes they still exist).
Sorry for the "rant", but these updates cost me money, since I don't have a flatrare on my phone. (And Android OS still uses my data, whilst I have it turned off. Which is strange)
I actually do own "a few" dumb phones, one for calling, one for getting called, one for SMS.
So I am off grid, at least a little bit.
I actually never understood that feature. As I stated above, I am not the kind of person that loses stuff (OK, maybe sometimes my manners ) nor did I ever had something stolen from me. People tried, but never succeeded.
I am looking forward to Replicant, so I can finally shove my middle finger up Googles fat back-ends (of the wafer. Also it is somehow connected to the fat file system. Not what you thought )
Some day.. Soon.
IRKONIK said:
Sorry for the "rant", but these updates cost me money, since I don't have a flatrare on my phone. (And Android OS still uses my data, whilst I have it turned off. Which is strange)
I actually do own "a few" dumb phones, one for calling, one for getting called, one for SMS.
So I am off grid, at least a little bit.
I actually never understood that feature. As I stated above, I am not the kind of person that loses stuff (OK, maybe sometimes my manners ) nor did I ever had something stolen from me. People tried, but never succeeded.
I am looking forward to Replicant, so I can finally shove my middle finger up Googles fat back-ends (of the wafer. Also it is somehow connected to the fat file system. Not what you thought )
Some day.. Soon.
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Replicant is available for the galaxysmtd (international galaxy s). it's not fully functional though, because there aren't a ton of open-source libraries and drivers available. if you want replicant on this phone, you gotta learn how to code, and how to build from source.
supernexus is kinda like replicant except it uses a lot of closed-source libraries that make things work. as i said, just don't flash the google apps package. it's basically a clone of the Nexus firmware, as you get all the AOSP components, nothing more or less. oh and also, very minimal google integration without Gapps
How does it work
So does Android Device Manager track the phone or tablet by the hardware signature or by Google account? I ask because I lost my Nexus 7 last Monday and immediately changed my Google Account password. Now when I try to track the Nexus 7 using Android Device Manager it shows that it has not been used since last Monday.
Capt-Capsaicin said:
So does Android Device Manager track the phone or tablet by the hardware signature or by Google account? I ask because I lost my Nexus 7 last Monday and immediately changed my Google Account password. Now when I try to track the Nexus 7 using Android Device Manager it shows that it has not been used since last Monday.
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Hardware i reckon, when i used this it let's me choose which device I've used with my Google account. It sees phone as different again when I've flashed a new ROM.
Crawshayi said:
In case you didn't know, Google has silently implemented FREE tracking for almost all androids. It also allows you to erase the phone if you feel that it's necessary, all you have to do is enable it as a device admin. I realize there have been apps on the market for a long time now that do this (and more) however Google doesn't require you to install or update any apps to use this service and from my brief testing it seems to work amazingly well right off the bat.
Go here and bookmark: https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
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CM Team Announces CyanogenMod Account For Remote Device Wipe/Tracking, Dual-Release Branches For Better Security
Posted by Ryan Whitwam in News
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ng-dual-release-branches-for-better-security/
CM guys still finding ways to 1-up google android :silly:
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[Q] Phone encryption and performance hit

Did anybody try to encrypt the z3compact? Is the performance hit noticeable or negligible?
I'm very fought about encrypting my phone. Would I lose the smartlock feature?
Thanks in advance
I encrypted it, including SD card. There is no visible impact I would say. I think PIN and password is the only unlock option after encryption, the biggest drawback for me is that you can't manage it with Sony Companion after encryption (as Sony did not manage to implement support it seems).
PIN and password are the only options available after encryption and you'll probably lose smartlock.
In KK at least performance was about the same. Though it did reduce my battery life...
i9300usr said:
I was curious to know if this was true with Sony Bridge too (Mac app), and I found this thread on the Sony forums. The Sony mods there insist that this is a choice by Sony to maintain security. Apparently none of them have heard of encrypted backups (à la iPhones). So, possible this will never be implemented.
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It's not that important, ADB backups work and are more complete, only drawback is the time they take
i9300usr said:
I was curious to know if this was true with Sony Bridge too (Mac app), and I found this thread on the Sony forums. The Sony mods there insist that this is a choice by Sony to maintain security. Apparently none of them have heard of encrypted backups (à la iPhones). So, possible this will never be implemented.
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i9300usr said:
So, just to make sure I understand you correctly: ADB allows users to make backups of encrypted Sony Xperia phones? Are the backups encrypted or unencrypted? And is the restore process straightforward?
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Yes ADB allows you to make a full encrypted backup of your phone (including apps installation files). The restore process is straightforward as well but it's not as complete as say an iPhone backup. ADB might not be able to access some files, especially ADB might restore all your apps but not your launcher settings, folders, etc...
Even though the backup is encrypted, keep in mind that if you use a four digits code it can be bruteforced in less than 10s so encryption does not mean much in this regard.
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...Even though the backup is encrypted, keep in mind that if you use a four digits code it can be bruteforced in less than 10s so encryption does not mean much in this regard.
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This is interesting. Are you referring to a code ADB requires or the code used on the phone? I use a pattern on the phone.
scottjb said:
This is interesting. Are you referring to a code ADB requires or the code used on the phone? I use a pattern on the phone.
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If you encrypt your phone you cannot use the pattern anymore. The ADB password is the same as your phone password so either 4 digits or a real password.
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If you encrypt your phone you cannot use the pattern anymore. The ADB password is the same as your phone password so either 4 digits or a real password.
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I have my phone encrypted and use a pattern. I was not required to change it to a PIN when I encrypted it.
That's why I asked, I wonder how ABD would handle the pattern.
You can transfert files when the phone is mounted as mass storage and unlocked, that's why Sony isn't consistent. You can also transfert files using a third party ftp server like es file browser.
I encrypted my phone last week. Not really noticed any difference in terms of general performance and battery life. One thing I hate is that if you fail to enter the correct password 10 times your phone gets wiped. I hate this because it just makes it easy for people to troll you and makes a thief's job easier because your essentially getting your phone ready to be sold on and also locking yourself out so it can't be tracked.
Another negative is startup takes forever but, you don't really reboot phones much anyway
i9300usr said:
Sounds like something I might actually use. Thanks for the feedback.
So, this is by default and can't be disabled by the user? Hmm, Apple's iOS at least makes the wipe optional.
So much this. Makes backing up your phone every day a necessity just in case. But then:
a) how many people are actually aware the wipe is mandatory for encrypted phones,
b) how many would be mean-spirited enough to actually do this,
and
c) how can people tell if your phone's encrypted?
I think the likelihood is low, but I guess that depends on the company you keep. But if it's that kind of company, you're probably wise enough to keep the phone in your possession all the time anyway.
Unless you're running 5.1, and have enabled "Device Protection" - if Google have actually implemented it? Did the promised "kill switch" actually make it to our phones?
How useful is the tracking anyway? Do the Police even care? I've read articles where the owners themselves had to retrieve their phones, and that can be a very tricky prospect.
Yup, very infrequently these days.
Well, this is all better than the non-existent encryption on my S3.
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Sadly, no you can't disable the wipe after 10 failed attempts. Well I'm uni student and you know what some people are like when it comes to trolling! I don't think z3 compact has the device protection. Not mine anyway. The police should track it. Well I've heard they help here in the UK
I think it's better to go without encryption, root with locked bootloader and install Cerberus to system partition, and use a strong lock pattern or password.
No worries of 10 try wipes, more secure lockscreen options, and can still track the phone even after a factory reset (unless they reflash the entire system.)
cschmitt said:
I think it's better to go without encryption, root with locked bootloader and install Cerberus to system partition, and use a strong lock pattern or password.
No worries of 10 try wipes, more secure lockscreen options, and can still track the phone even after a factory reset (unless they reflash the entire system.)
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I think there's a tendency to speak too lightly of rooting. It invalidates warranty, which is a big deal for a US$400–600 phone such as this. Even after the warranty expires, I think it places far too much responsibility on the user to solve any problems that may arise, which can be onerous if the phone actually serves a purpose (as opposed to being merely a prestige item, which I'm sure it frequently is).
Rooting is a nice concept, but it presents real-world problems that can entirely negate any benefits gained; it's not the panacea it purports to be.

I have a blank canvas to work with, people!

Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. This website really is the best source for all your galaxy needs. I learned how to root my first Android, a galaxy S4 here. Anyways, I'm here because I have scoured the internet trying to find a certain ROM that it seems no one has made.
I have a Galaxy S6 Active. recently, I lost service with AT&T, and I want to install a custom ROM on it. Here's the things though. This is no longer an AT&T phone. I don't care about KNOX, or if I can make or receive phone calls on it. I want to turn it into smething completely different. Linux OS, perhaps. Just an external hard drive. If I had to put a name on what I'm trying to find, it would be "NFC device with bluetooth and WIFI capabilities". I hope I'm explaining myself clearly. It's no longer a phone to me, but a blank canvas I can tweak and morph into something completely new.
Lmao good luck. Root.bounty @ $1550
ThegoLopez said:
Hi everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. This website really is the best source for all your galaxy needs. I learned how to root my first Android, a galaxy S4 here. Anyways, I'm here because I have scoured the internet trying to find a certain ROM that it seems no one has made.
I have a Galaxy S6 Active. recently, I lost service with AT&T, and I want to install a custom ROM on it. Here's the things though. This is no longer an AT&T phone. I don't care about KNOX, or if I can make or receive phone calls on it. I want to turn it into smething completely different. Linux OS, perhaps. Just an external hard drive. If I had to put a name on what I'm trying to find, it would be "NFC device with bluetooth and WIFI capabilities". I hope I'm explaining myself clearly. It's no longer a phone to me, but a blank canvas I can tweak and morph into something completely new.
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Take some time to use the "search" function :') there is no root for this phone so your stuck with Stock rom until root is available
ryanraven said:
Take some time to use the "search" function :') there is no root for this phone so your stuck with Stock rom until root is available
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Trust me, I did. There are so many cool ROMS out there. I guess what I'm not understanding is....well... why?
So, a cell phone (if you can even call it that any more, lol) is a piece of hardware with software on it. If I remove ALL of the software from it, Everything... even ODIN. Aren't I left with something similar to a laptop with a formatted hard drive?Can't I put something like an MBR on it and start from scratch? That's what I'm looking for. Not some program that can simulate kit kat or lollipop. I want something that will wipe it down to where all I see on the screen is a flashing C:\
ThegoLopez said:
Trust me, I did. There are so many cool ROMS out there. I guess what I'm not understanding is....well... why?
So, a cell phone (if you can even call it that any more, lol) is a piece of hardware with software on it. If I remove ALL of the software from it, Everything... even ODIN. Aren't I left with something similar to a laptop with a formatted hard drive?Can't I put something like an MBR on it and start from scratch? That's what I'm looking for. Not some program that can simulate kit kat or lollipop. I want something that will wipe it down to where all I see on the screen is a flashing C:\
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I don't think you understand how these phones work, you could indeed somehow wipe all the partition of the phone in Odin which if you didn't know isn't part of the phone but a computer program, but if your clever enough to build an OS by yourself to run on the phone then Thumbs Up! & you'd need to unlock the phones bootloader and have very expensive hardware and software to even get into this phone, your idea is good but impossible sorry to burst your bubble my friend.
ryanraven said:
I don't think you understand how these phones work, you could indeed somehow wipe all the partition of the phone in Odin which if you didn't know isn't part of the phone but a computer program, but if your clever enough to build an OS by yourself to run on the phone then Thumbs Up! & you'd need to unlock the phones bootloader and have very expensive hardware and software to even get into this phone, your idea is good but impossible sorry to burst your bubble my friend.
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mind=blown. OK, so that is something I was not aware of. So, to try and understand it better, that is like me trying to login to my laptop's BIOS and it having password protection that only Dell knows the code to?
ThegoLopez said:
mind=blown. OK, so that is something I was not aware of. So, to try and understand it better, that is like me trying to login to my laptop's BIOS and it having password protection that only Dell knows the code to?
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Yep, pretty much. Except in this case, it's both Samsung and AT&T's business agreements that have it locked down. Until someone cracks it, or they unlock it, we're all in a holding pattern.
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Y...it's both Samsung and AT&T's business agreements that have it locked down. Until someone cracks it, or they unlock it...
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Yes, big business definitely has us at their mercy. Plus I heard a rumor that the guy who unlocked the previous bootloader now works for them.
So, how would one, with only ODIN, a USB cable, an internet connection, and alot of time on their hands, go about trying to unlock this bootloader? I mean, I know there are many people out there who are WAY more qualified than me and have way better equipment. But, hey, I could do it. I'm coming into this with no frame of reference or previous experience. Meaning I have the ability to see the problem from a perspective that no one ever has before. Who knows... and I can't fail if I never even try

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