[Q] Best way to get root keeping the rom as "original" - Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well, I see two distinct methods to get root.
1. Flash kernel+recovery with odin, then flash the su binary.
2. Flash the whole /system with su binary included.
Is there any other way I'm missing here?
I want to keep my rom very close to the original.
Seems the best method for this is the first one.
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navossoc said:
Well, I see two distinct methods to get root.
1. Flash kernel+recovery with odin, then flash the su binary.
2. Flash the whole /system with su binary included.
Is there any other way I'm missing here?
I want to keep my rom very close to the original.
Seems the best method for this is the first one.
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On first you increase binary counter. But now we have method to reset it.
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shut_down said:
On first you increase binary counter. But now we have method to reset it.
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Yes, I'm aware of that.
I'm thinking in terms of stability.
The kernel is get from source of samsung? (probably)
Will not be exactly like the original.
The firmware is get from (I have no idea)?
The latest firmware available in a thread is older than mine.
KIES has any kind of recovery? reflash the original firmware? forget about odin.
I'm asking this because I have a P970, this phone has a separated recovery where you can flash the original firmware directly from LG webserver.
Samsung has something similar?
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navossoc said:
Yes, I'm aware of that.
I'm thinking in terms of stability.
The kernel is get from source of samsung? (probably)
Will not be exactly like the original.
The firmware is get from (I have no idea)?
The latest firmware available in a thread is older than mine.
KIES has any kind of recovery? reflash the original firmware? forget about odin.
I'm asking this because I have a P970, this phone has a separated recovery where you can flash the original firmware directly from LG webserver.
Samsung has something similar?
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You flash rooted kernel, and after that the one that is yours. So it will be the same.
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[Q] Why no Simple Root for Latest Gingerbread?

I am on the latest gingerbread DXJPE. As most of you know Z4Root and Superoneclickroot and Gingerbreak don't work on this firmware.
We have available CF-root by Chainfire, DiP7 kernel, and Overcome which have root in addition to other features.
Myself and others that don't want OC/UV or CWM or Voodoo but want to use Titanium backup,etc want a simple root application or a patch to our firmware.
I cannot understand why can't a straightforward root cannot be done unless you have CWM or OC/UV....
So I am pleading/begging you expert coders/programmers in XDA-PLEASE PROVIDE A SIMPLE ROOT APP/PATCH FOR THE LATEST GINGERBREAD.
THANKS!
bongski55 said:
I am on the latest gingerbread DXJPE. As most of you know Z4Root and Superoneclickroot and Gingerbreak don't work on this firmware.
We have available CF-root by Chainfire, DiP7 kernel, and Overcome which have root in addition to other features.
Myself and others that don't want OC/UV or CWM or Voodoo but want to use Titanium backup,etc want a simple root application or a patch to our firmware.
I cannot understand why can't a straightforward root cannot be done unless you have CWM or OC/UV....
So I am pleading/begging you expert coders/programmers in XDA-PLEASE PROVIDE A SIMPLE ROOT APP/PATCH FOR THE LATEST GINGERBREAD.
THANKS!
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I am rooted on 2.3.4 and I don't have CWM. It's super easy to flash with Odin, no harder or longer than rooting with SuperOneClick would be.
prezmater said:
I am rooted on 2.3.4 and I don't have CWM. It's super easy to flash with Odin, no harder or longer than rooting with SuperOneClick would be.
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May I ask what you used to root?
Update/edit: You have a sprint tab....
I agree, I have tried CF-root,DiP7 kernel and Overcome Gold. I have also posted my problems re: CWM but there seems to be nobody interested. I even asked Chainfire the author of CF-root for a way to root without the "extras" but he said it is not possible.
Maybe I will just be content on what is available?....
bongski55 said:
May I ask what you used to root?
Update/edit: You have a sprint tab....
I agree, I have tried CF-root,DiP7 kernel and Overcome Gold. I have also posted my problems re: CWM but there seems to be nobody interested. I even asked Chainfire the author of CF-root for a way to root without the "extras" but he said it is not possible.
Maybe I will just be content on what is available?....
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hey buddy , what rom are u using ? and how come you are not able to root it until now ? there is no tab is not rooted tbh
k0sh said:
hey buddy , what rom are u using ? and how come you are not able to root it until now ? there is no tab is not rooted tbh
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DXJPE. I have already tried rooting successfully- it's just that I wanted to have root with the following:
1. Stock boot animation with sound.
2. use of the default recovery instead of CWM.
3. be able to change CSC with no errors
All of the above can be done when I rooted using Z4root or superoneclick but not CF-root or Dip7 or more so not with overcome.
the stock bootanimations its already in the stock and it will only work in the stok !!!
if you rooted with superoneclick or Z4root how come you get CWM ? it only suppose to flash ROOT (superuser and busy box) thats all
to change the CSC ,tbh , its sucks way to do so , so ignore it and don't worry about it i also wanna try update via kies but never had
I think the person who posted the original question has a GSM tab and the guy who replied has the cdma sprint tab. The flash for cdma/sprint won't work for GSM. I might be wrong but if you try to flash with the wrong thing, there's an excellent chance you're going to bork your GSM tab. Same thing applies with the other android device I'm dealing with, the nexus s 4g. The GSM and cdma for ns4g and ns are different. The software and hardware under the Hood are different. Not drastically different but enough to make it so that development for the two types must be separate and aren't interchangeable.
oscarthegrouch said:
I think the person who posted the original question has a GSM tab and the guy who replied has the cdma sprint tab. The flash for cdma/sprint won't work for GSM. I might be wrong but if you try to flash with the wrong thing, there's an excellent chance you're going to bork your GSM tab. Same thing applies with the other android device I'm dealing with, the nexus s 4g. The GSM and cdma for ns4g and ns are different. The software and hardware under the Hood are different. Not drastically different but enough to make it so that development for the two types must be separate and aren't interchangeable.
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to root a phone it doesn't matter if its CDMA or GSM , what is matter if you flashed rom is not for your tab ,
root only contains SUPERUSER and BUSYBOX and nothing else , what chainfire posted is a Kernel and not Root , but kernel contain both , CWM and Root access , and the kernels are for specific tabs.
my point is to root , it doesn't matter if you are GSM or CDMA , then how Z4root work or Superoneclick ? they just push the busybox and superuser to the system. so basically Root tools aren't that harm to your phone or tab
k0sh said:
the stock bootanimations its already in the stock and it will only work in the stok !!!
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Nope,CF-root removes the stock bootanimation....
k0sh said:
if you rooted with superoneclick or Z4root how come you get CWM ? it only suppose to flash ROOT (superuser and busy box) thats all
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if you read my original post no. 1 DXJPE cannot be rooted using superoneclick or z4root
k0sh said:
to change the CSC ,tbh , its sucks way to do so , so ignore it and don't worry about it i also wanna try update via kies but never had
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I have to hack the CSC and install the hacked file via CWM to change the CSC. Cannot use *#272*IME# which was so much easier....
bongski55 said:
Nope,CF-root removes the stock bootanimation....
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there is a thread in the android section called guide how to made bootanimation and with sound , there is the file there , grab it and try to push it via emulator and see how it will work with you
if you read my original post no. 1 DXJPE cannot be rooted using superoneclick or z4root
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is it arabic rom or which region ? i can't understand what you want ? i mean everybody is hoping\wishing to get CWM so why you don't track the superuser where its located and the busybox and try to push them via adb or root explorer maybe this will work
I have to hack the CSC and install the hacked file via CWM to change the CSC. Cannot use *#272*IME# which was so much easier....
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even though , you'll not be able to update via kies , because its also require PDA and phone to be change , its really SUCKS
i agree...im waiting for a no-flash method....
Ayoko mavoid warranty..hehe
I have to hack the CSC and install the hacked file via CWM to change the CSC. Cannot use *#272*IME# which was so much easier....
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No...just edit the /system/CSC/sale_code.dat file to whatever u want.
biopsin said:
No...just edit the /system/CSC/sale_code.dat file to whatever u want.
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Are you sure that by only editing the dat file you will also reset the settings to the CSC that you choose? Example are language,frequency settings,applications for the region,etc?
What I know is that the CSC should match a nv_data.bak file for your particular firmware. If there is no match then it will be pointless to change CSC but just changing to any value.
BTW,hacking the cache file and installing the hacked file via CWM also solves the missing PDA and CSC ....
musashiro said:
i agree...im waiting for a no-flash method....
Ayoko mavoid warranty..hehe
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Root= warranty void
yeah.... but im assuming that a no-flash method comes with an unroot button..hahahaha
The advantage of android is that non market apps can be installed even without root. IOS in idevices do not allow non appstore apps to be installed unless jailbroken.
Also apps which require root are available for android on the market while you will find similar apps only thru cydia.
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k0sh said:
is it arabic rom or which region ? i can't understand what you want ? i mean everybody is hoping\wishing to get CWM so why you don't track the superuser where its located and the busybox and try to push them via adb or root explorer maybe this will work
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Our firmware is DXJPE, w/c is the asian region... I think there is an option for gingerbreak on superoneclick but I personally have not tried it out... Maybe bongski can try it out and see if it works...
@bongski: There is an option on superoneclick for "gingerbreak", just take a look at the available option, it may work for you... I don't have superoneclick on my laptop so I cannot tell you where exactly is that option... Try it out and see if it works...
I don't root my TAB, only on froyo when I want to flash other ROMS, so I can't be of much help here...
Both gingerbreak under superoneclick and the gingerbreak.apk don't work on the JPE firmware. I think the exploit in which gingerbreak is based is already closed by samsung.
the root you are able to achieve is through the rom not the kernel or recovery or any of that. that is not a horrible issue especially since there are only a hand full of roms. what has happened in the epic 4g forum is that some roms rely on kernel root and others rely on rom root, like what we have. rom root is fine for average root users cause you can get into the root directory and install or remove stuff at your whim. the issue will arise when the recovery is in place and roms are being developed. if you have a kernel thats not rooted and you flash a rom that isnt baked with root then you lose root. its kind of a chicken and the egg discussion on the surface. i imagine that kernel and recovery devs can argue the preferred method, but for most end users its moot. from what ive learned devices have a recovery kernel and a "rom" kernel. one gets you up and going and allows recovery to boot and the other will control how the rom runs. people have had some issues when they flash what that think is substantial kernel and use an app like quick boot only to find out they dont have a custom recovery like cwm. however when using 3 finger boot or in our case vol up +power they find the custom recovery. a rooted and properly flagged recovery kernel will boot into the custom recovery from the app or from the hardware induced recovery boot. if you read through oldmacnut's thread he eludes to partial root issues. again when our root comes through an odin of a rom thats got root baked in, you dont get to access all the innards of the device and the possibilities that other devices are seeing.
thats my interpretation of the situation

easy question CWM and ROOT

I installed an old firmware [N7000XXKKA], applied ROOT and CWM to it.
now I upgraded my firmware to a new one [N7000XXLA4], by using the CWM manager, and choose KEEP CF-ROOT.
my question is:
did the firmware get completely upgraded? or did the kernel remained the same and I just did nothing
Your kernel will be same old.
You can update it to new LA4 with this
Download , extract n Run I am already Rooted. it will take few seconds
Qvp said:
I installed an old firmware [N7000XXKKA], applied ROOT and CWM to it.
now I upgraded my firmware to a new one [N7000XXLA4], by using the CWM manager, and choose KEEP CF-ROOT.
my question is:
did the firmware get completely upgraded? or did the kernel remained the same and I just did nothing
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Yes , your device got updated to LA4 and the Kernel remained same. and you have root.
thanks a lot!!!
btw dr.ketan about sanity and bluetooth recording, do you know how to stop echo?
dr.ketan said:
Your kernel will be same old.
You can update it to new LA4 with this
Download , extract n Run I am already Rooted. it will take few seconds
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What kind of features am I going to miss if I'm on the latest ROM (LA6), but stay on the KK1 kernel?
serpent2005 said:
What kind of features am I going to miss if I'm on the latest ROM (LA6), but stay on the KK1 kernel?
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If your CWM application is full functional, I dont think any thing you will miss.
dr.ketan said:
If your CWM application is full functional, I dont think any thing you will miss.
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Ok I was afraid staying with the older kernel meant I was giving up performance enhancements (or other enhancements) in the later kernels.

[Q] Firmware upgrade

OK, this is my second post on XDA, but I'm finding it a little more difficult to get to grips with the Note and its workings, coming from my HTC Desire.
I'm currently on Kernel version KKA, and have read Dr. Ketan's guide about how to root your device, which seems very straightforward. My phone is prompting me to download a new firmware, which I assume would make it more difficult to root, as it would have a newer kernel than the one I currently run, so I have held off for now.
My question is, if I root and want to apply the firmware update, I assume I can do this manually, and would obviously prefer to maintain root, rather than downloading over the air, which would remove my root. From what I've read, I assume I could do this with Mobile Odin Pro, but could I also apply a pre-rooted version of the new firmware, and if so, which is the firmware I should use?
Like many of you, I am waiting for the official ICS upgrade before I mess around too much with my device. Thanks for any advice you could give.
Kitteridge said:
could I also apply a pre-rooted version of the new firmware, and if so, which is the firmware I should use?
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why would you wanna search for pre-rooted rom when u can keep rooted in all stock rom with just few easy steps???? Its very easy with CWM !
Yes exactly agree to priyanv
You have kka rootable ROM, just root n get cwm.
Then you can update any ROM, either with mobile odin or cwm
Just want to advise somthing, but b4 that just decide, which rom you want to update after rooting.
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[Q] Root XXLA6 question

Hi all.
Finally got a Note and love it, but while I wait for official ICS here in the UK, I'd like to keep stock 2.3.6 GB but safely root it.
There's so much info here, it makes me a bit nervous in-case I pick the wrong method.
I have this:
https://www.box.com/s/1dfacc6107713602d2e8
and would like to know what method I should use to root.
Thanks
forcedv said:
Hi all.
Finally got a Note and love it, but while I wait for official ICS here in the UK, I'd like to keep stock 2.3.6 GB but safely root it.
There's so much info here, it makes me a bit nervous in-case I pick the wrong method.
I have this:
https://www.box.com/s/1dfacc6107713602d2e8
and would like to know what method I should use to root.
Thanks
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Use Dr. Ketan's method!
Go here and follow the instruction for your Rom.
Edit: Just saw your picture, you have LA4 not LA6 on your device, that means that you can flash a Direct Rootable Rom!
Thanks for the reply but I'm a bit confused, my Note shows Build: GINGERBREAD XXLA6 as does the Kernel, so are you saying that it's the Baseband version : N7000XXLA4 that I should be paying attention to?
Also according to Kies it's PDA:LA6 / PHONE LA4 / CSC LA1 (XEU)
yes la4 is the rom version you are using, you will need to downgrade to be able to root
which rom do you suggest I downgrade to and still allow update via Kies?
Will the downgrade via Odin up my flash counter and give me the triangle?
forcedv said:
which rom do you suggest I downgrade to and still allow update via Kies?
Will the downgrade via Odin up my flash counter and give me the triangle?
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go look at the root thread, there is a link for kj1, which is non wipe rom so all your settings will stay in tact
no it wont give you the triangle because it is a stock rom
Richy99 said:
go look at the root thread, there is a link for kj1, which is non wipe rom so all your settings will stay in tact
no it wont give you the triangle because it is a stock rom
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I bought the Galaxy Note N7000 yesterday and I have exactly the same android-, baseband-, kernel version and build number. The only difference is I'm from the Netherlands and using Vodafone.
Now I've been looking for a way to root it, but I also wondered which XXLA# I should use for it.. I saw the reply of the downgrade (ofcourse) but I am wondering: those r for Poland and Germany... Or doesn't that matter and I can root it anyway w/o bricking the phone?
Post november roms are difficult to root, best optuon is to go to pre december 2011 rom
Or go to ICS and use cwm. Zip and superuser. Zip method
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Well yeah, I get that point, but the thing is: I'm kinda noob with this. To be honest: my roommates rooted my galaxy s for me, but they did it so fast that I didn't get half of what they did..
My eventual goal is to learn how to root a smartphone and upgrade mine to android ics. My current android version is an unrooted stock 2.3.6 and I wanna go for a rooted ICS, but I already start to wonder now if I can upgrade my phone to rooted ICS immediately from the 2.3.6... Could u guide me a little in this?
By the way: sorry if I ask some pretty obvious questions that might have already been answered elsewhere on the forum, but I have been looking all over the forum and just don't know which info I should use from which posts anymore..
If you want ics then it is very easy.
First flash ics and then root it., ics is directly rootable.
I recommend first hard reset on gb rom for clean installation.
All informatikn regarding ics update n root, u can find on first link on my signature.
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dr.ketan said:
If you want ics then it is very easy.
First flash ics and then root it., ics is directly rootable.
I recommend first hard reset on gb rom for clean installation.
All informatikn regarding ics update n root, u can find on first link on my signature.
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Well, I thought the safest way to get me ICS on the phone was through updating with Samsung Kies. After this I was planning to put CWM in the folder sdcard/external_sd and Busybox on the internal sd, but...
I got it updated now, but I lost the folder external_sd.. I can't create a new folder with this name either.. I don't actually have an external SD card, but if I remember it well, I didn't need it either. I have seen the folder external_sd for sure in there..
Edit: Bought an external sd card and did the root like u said, but without flashing back to GB. It worked! Thanks alot for the clear walkthrough! Hail dr. Ketan!

Error while flashing Rom with CWM

hi.
i have an Australian N7000B Note, and it is currently rooted on the latest available android in the country for the phone (2.3.6)
i have superuser and CWM installed.
i can boot into CWM and navigate with no worries, but whenever i try to install any custom rom, regardless what rom it is, i get the same error.
i really want to get off this crappy rom that Telstra provides with the phone, so any help is greatly appreciated.
many thanks
pic attatched of error.
Use ODIN to flash a stock ICS or GB ROM and then re-root and add cwm and try again
the issue you face is because your version is the GT-N7000B and the build.prop is for the GT-N7000 so its failing because it believes the ROM is for a different device.
if the product codes do not match up in the build.prop it will fail - this applies to all devices and all ROMs.
you could also open the .zip and find the build.prop and change all of them, But its a pain in the ass !
azzledazzle said:
Use ODIN to flash a stock ICS or GB ROM and then re-root and add cwm and try again
the issue you face is because your version is the GT-N7000B and the build.prop is for the GT-N7000 so its failing because it believes the ROM is for a different device.
if the product codes do not match up in the build.prop it will fail - this applies to all devices and all ROMs.
you could also open the .zip and find the build.prop and change all of them, But its a pain in the ass !
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I've looked everywhere and everywhere for a ICS or GB rom to flash onto the phone using Odin but all of them are for use with CWM, which doesn't work
WHAT !?!?!?!?! theres a whole thread dedicated to stock ODIN ROMs lol !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
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WHAT !?!?!?!?! theres a whole thread dedicated to stock ODIN ROMs lol !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
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Because these are for the N7000 if i flash a stock ICS rom on my N7000B what will happen?
http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=8
Put your details in there and it will find you a stock ROM. Ive seen threads where N7000B users have flashed N7000 ROMs without any issues.
EDIT: You CAN use any GT-N7000 firmware !
Awesome! I am downloading the Gingerbread Australian Rom as we speak for the N7000. if i flash it with odin, root it, and then install CWM would it work with installing custom roms such as paranoid android etc?
Yes because the Stock firmware will remove the 'B' and you will have no more install errors
Be sure to follow the instructions to the letter !! and make a nandroid before commencing.
azzledazzle said:
Yes because the Stock firmware will remove the 'B' and you will have no more install errors
Be sure to follow the instructions to the letter !! and make a nandroid before commencing.
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Well, i have a nandroid backup of the current firmware, i made it just after i rooted it.
so, i will flash it with Odin on PC correct? does it require i wipe everything off the phone?
sorry for the questions i am a noob lol
you can wipe before or after it makes no difference so long as your on GB.
Dont ever wipe on ICS unless your on a safe kernel.
But do do a wipe as it will start you off on a fresh clean install
azzledazzle said:
you can wipe before or after it makes no difference so long as your on GB.
Dont ever wipe on ICS unless your on a safe kernel.
But do do a wipe as it will start you off on a fresh clean install
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I'm successfully on a N7000 Rom, it unrooted my phone is there a way to root it again?
flash the CWM.zip in recovery and then the SU package
or flash a rooted kernel such as speedmod
azzledazzle said:
flash the CWM.zip in recovery and then the SU package
or flash a rooted kernel such as speedmod
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I am now on Cyanogen mod 9, thanks so much for your help kind sir, Many internets to you!
read this and be more careful when flashing other phones firmware on different versionhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698788
I guess the 7000b is very similar no?
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JoshDubstep said:
I am now on Cyanogen mod 9, thanks so much for your help kind sir, Many internets to you!
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Hi, Can u please help me. I'm having the same problem as u. Got the getprop error when flashing any rom through
How were u able to flash roms through cwm & what file did u use to turn your 7000B into a 7000?

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