Hi all I am planning on mounting a Nexus 7 in my car and I have been wanting to make it removable. The best way I can think to do this is to use the pogo pins for charging as I wil be using bluetooth for the audio. I was intending to disassemble an official Asus dock for the pogo pins and pcb but i was wondering if i could buy one of the nexus 10 pogo charges cables and remove a couple of the pins and if need be rewire the usb end.
Does anyone have any idea if the pin width is the same and / or thoughts on if this is a good idea?
Thanks
Mitchell
Some useful info about what you're going to attempt to do might be found in that other thread about making your own dock, even for the car:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019847
br0adband said:
Some useful info about what you're going to attempt to do might be found in that other thread about making your own dock, even for the car:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019847
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Thanks for that br0adband I have been following that thread but it does require buying the pins and mounting them separately which isn't to much of a problem but I thought this might be an easier solution.
elwesties said:
Thanks for that br0adband I have been following that thread but it does require buying the pins and mounting them separately which isn't to much of a problem but I thought this might be an easier solution.
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the pins are more spread apart on the N7 than the N10, so you're need to pretty much take apart the whole cable tip and redesign it
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Any chance we will see a combo cable that would allow charging via usb/and also provide audio out? Id like to run a charging cable behind the dashboard of my car for docking in a cradle, and also have audio out for the auxiliary input to the headunit without having to run a second wire.
Not that running a second wire would be much of a hassle, but would prefer a cleaner look when docked and one less wire when not in the dock
I wish Samsung had put some thought into their car dock. Id be happy to buy the official dock if they hadn't dropped the ball on this one.
It was easy to convert the car dock so it has audio as well.
If You seek on my posts You will find a how to.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I couldn't find the howto. I would like to mod the OWM car dock to allow audio output, and I'd appreciate any help in such direction.
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
i have this one
but u can find even cheaper on that site
hey, quick question: does it work only for video? or power point as well? thank you
it does
its a good alternative to the dock even if its not HD
Do I get my music through this cable? Or does it work with combined video audio files only?
Dieter
4exess said:
i have this one
but u can find even cheaper on that site
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it look's nice, how is the quality?
zeb crs said:
It was easy to convert the car dock so it has audio as well.
If You seek on my posts You will find a how to.
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i searched through a ton of your posts and didn't see anything besides the pinout. my question is how do you take apart the plug to get to the connector, and are all the pins available to solder to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9985704#post9985704
well here is the post where the gentleman posts to replace a resistor to get it to output audio to the dock. the only question left is how to take the thing apart, whether it comes apart nicely or i have to break out the dremel...
Not sure if you need the same as I do, but my idea was also to have a USB charging plug and an audio-out jack. It wasn't easy, but I found this:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/300574404789...XX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649#ht_1470wt_972
I got one off Amazon, some off brand but it gives a terrible hum in the audio and the tab doesn't see it as a dock.....still looking for a solution
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/46308/asus-nexus-7-audio-dock
Looks like it's going to be just an audio dock, connects through the pogo pins. Good since the single speaker would kinda suck.
no word on HDMI/MHL but i don't think those can work through the pogo pins anyway.
Perfect.
whaaaaat? this tab has pogo pins? cool
Perhaps with it having 4 pins it will allow for data to transfer with it (unlike the nexus with it only having 3 pins).
Threads about accessories go in the Accessories section
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/46308/asus-nexus-7-audio-dock
Looks like it's going to be just an audio dock, connects through the pogo pins. Good since the single speaker would kinda suck.
no word on HDMI/MHL but i don't think those can work through the pogo pins anyway.
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So, you find this out and post it on xda without telling me? Jerk.
Micro USB to HDMI Cable Included.
neok44 said:
Looks like it's going to be just an audio dock, connects through the pogo pins. Good since the single speaker would kinda suck.
no word on HDMI/MHL but i don't think those can work through the pogo pins anyway.
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If you go to the ifixit tear down the have a picture of an included micro usb to HDMI cable. I would link it but the ifixit site is down....
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If you go to the ifixit tear down the have a picture of an included micro usb to HDMI cable. I would link it but the ifixit site is down....
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http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/2
contrary to popular belief, the asus nexus 7 actually has TWO speakers/drivers. its shown in the first pic. theyre closer together compared to in the memo 370t, but there are two.
i havent seen how theyre hooked up, but theyre either in two channel mode or in single channel mode. chances are that theyre in single channel mode. even if it were in dual channel mode, theyre so close together it wouldnt even matter, it would sound like a nearfield setup.
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If you go to the ifixit tear down the have a picture of an included micro usb to HDMI cable. I would link it but the ifixit site is down....
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No, unfortunately they screwed up. That's the cable included with the Nexus Q, there's still no HDMI capabilities for the Nexus 7.
What with there being FOUR pogo pins, I hope it is just a straight up USB type connection. That would make it pretty damn easy to make docks with USB connections for peripherals or whatever external storage may end up working with the device.
Can't wait to get my N7!
Hi All,
If this has been done before please ignore.
I have been doing a fair bit of research on the NEXUS 7 as a car head deck but no diagram to go off.
Can you please advise if the Diagram below is accurate or if i need to amend certain areas to make it work. The NEXUS 7 will be slide in slide out.
Subscribed to see what others have to say. I am hoping to skip the head unit and sub and go right from the N7 to the amp. My worry is getting clean audio out of the N7 while it gets power.
I have a ground issue somewhere currently where if I am charging a device and have it plugged into the aux port of my head unit, I get tons of static and noise.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Only comment I'd make is that if you're going to use the POGO pins to power it why not grab the audio from there also? Seems safer to use a non intrusive (without a plug going into the Nexus) method over sticking in the headphone jack.
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He probably didn't know he can do that. You can also use a USB dac and get audio that way. Probably much cleaner and it will also fix his ground loop issues.
I owned a Galaxy Tab before the N7 and it was MUCH WORSE at adding noise to the headphone output. The N7 is much much better at isolating that ground.
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He probably didn't know he can do that. You can also use a USB dac and get audio that way. Probably much cleaner and it will also fix his ground loop issues.
I owned a Galaxy Tab before the N7 and it was MUCH WORSE at adding noise to the headphone output. The N7 is much much better at isolating that ground.
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Correct i didn't even know what those 2 pins were for Audio or if they were for D+ & D- so thanks I have adjusted the picture accordingly. If you could check that out that would be great. After i get everything from Evil Bay this week i will do lots of pictures and full write up.
Thanks So excited to get started.
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Correct i didn't even know what those 2 pins were for Audio or if they were for D+ & D- so thanks I have adjusted the picture accordingly. If you could check that out that would be great. After i get everything from Evil Bay this week i will do lots of pictures and full write up.
Thanks So excited to get started.
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so are you saying that the POGO pins are THAT simple? and here i was building a dock for my N7!
if this is true, you rock man!
Unless your drawing is just an example, your speaker wiring needs to be changed so you're not daisy chaining the signal. Run 'home runs' to each driver.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Also there's no need as in actually you can't do that have a DAC on the audio lines. They are analog L+ and R+ with the ground being common between power-, L- and R-. Look for the POGO thread over in the accessories subforum along with one on a homemade dock for more info. There is no USB on the POGO pins.
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Wilkie2013 said:
Correct i didn't even know what those 2 pins were for Audio or if they were for D+ & D- so thanks I have adjusted the picture accordingly. If you could check that out that would be great. After i get everything from Evil Bay this week i will do lots of pictures and full write up.
Thanks So excited to get started.
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Close, but not there yet. The 2 middle POGO pins are Audio +/-, and won't connect to a DAC as it's already an analog output. You can connect the DAC via USB though, and get the highest quality audio possible out of the N7.
HOWEVER: if you want to charge AND use OTG (DAC and external storage will connect via OTG), then you'll need a kernel which will support that. Running power through the POGO pins also requires a special kernel. This is the only one I know of:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/37755-timurs-kernel-usb-host-power-management-usb-audio/
The fixed installation is the best choice for car applications.
Alternatively you can use audio out and charge through the POGO, and use a kernel like faux123's kernel to charge and have USB OTG (but won't work with a USB DAC), though there are limitations to this setup.
EDIT: I've attached a diagram of my current car setup.
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so are you saying that the POGO pins are THAT simple? and here i was building a dock for my N7!
if this is true, you rock man!
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Close, but not there yet. The 2 middle POGO pins are Audio +/-, and won't connect to a DAC as it's already an analog output. You can connect the DAC via USB though, and get the highest quality audio possible out of the N7.
HOWEVER: if you want to charge AND use OTG (DAC and external storage will connect via OTG), then you'll need a kernel which will support that. Running power through the POGO pins also requires a special kernel. This is the only one I know of:
The fixed installation is the best choice for car applications.
Alternatively you can use audio out and charge through the POGO, and use a kernel like faux123's kernel to charge and have USB OTG (but won't work with a USB DAC), though there are limitations to this setup.
EDIT: I've attached a diagram of my current car setup.
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Thank you for your diagram you've definately got alot going on in your car Looks good.
This is what i have bought.
Nexus 7
FiiO E10 USB DAC
Clarion EQ746
3ft male to female USB connection
3.1A Dual USB Charger
Micro USB female
AUX to RCA ( Not sure what ill be using this for now )
Pogo Pins
Magnets ( Not sure if I'll use these yet )
Will the above work? I've read way to many forums on this subject and no one is actually clear.
If i cut up and strip back the rubber around a Male USB can i use this as my POGO pins connector to the USB DAC + Kernel suggested?
*phillip1953* It is just a quick drawing and i can assure you this won't happen when installing.
Everyones input is greatly appreciated Thank you.
I think I have a working diagram to go off. On a positive note my NEXUS 7 arrived today Wohoo.
Also when i get free time i will also create a Nexus 7 dock with built in speakers using the OEM POGO pins?
Wilkie2013 said:
I think I have a working diagram to go off. On a positive note my NEXUS 7 arrived today Wohoo.
Also when i get free time i will also create a Nexus 7 dock with built in speakers using the OEM POGO pins?
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You really need to read the whole thread that MetalMan posted above. It will show you what you're doing wrong, and give you more to think about.
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I really wouldn't charge off the pogo pins if I were you. Get a USB OTG + Charging Y Cable and just plug/unplug that as needed.
That's it really it available for 29.99
Nexus 7 2012 Docking Station https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009UQZPA0/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_GmbYtb1F5BVK26TM?ie=UTF8
Never mind they are gone now.... Wow that was fast they lasted 2 hours or so.... Now all you can find is the 80 dollar ones
I got mine direct from asus. I'm sure it was £27
I ordered just the pogo pins from ebay and they worked even better than the original dock does!
Hey guys.
Sorry to resurrect this thread but I'm looking for a nexus 7 2012 charging dock. The charging port is damaged again (I've already replaced it once) which is probably a mixture of kids not looking after things but also asus not using good parts.
When i looked for a dock on Amazon and ebay it seems that they aren't even selling second hand.
Any ideas where to buy? Someone in here mentioned just buying the pogo pins, what can be done with just these?
No one?
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No one?
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I believe this thread is dead. The thing about buying pogo pins is just that you have to solder it yourself. I for one am not good in the DIY soldering section so I'll pass on that. And also because the dock has somehow became a limited edition item, the pricing has increased to a very unreasonable state to me.
Thanks mate
A few are available from CEX (UK second hand store) is you search on their site webuy com
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Hey guys.
Sorry to resurrect this thread but I'm looking for a nexus 7 2012 charging dock. The charging port is damaged again (I've already replaced it once) which is probably a mixture of kids not looking after things but also asus not using good parts.
When i looked for a dock on Amazon and ebay it seems that they aren't even selling second hand.
Any ideas where to buy? Someone in here mentioned just buying the pogo pins, what can be done with just these?
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What are pogo pins?
im having the same problem with my Nexus 7 port it just naffed up with normal use and most of the docks use the usb to charge it so thats out of the window.
There is a charger on ebay that charges the tablet by just putting the tablet ontop of the charger but id rather see it working or atleast get some feedback from someone thats got one before buying one.
BTW:mines the wifi 2013 one,i think they call it the second edition cant find the box at the moment to check.
The dock for the new would be different to the old. The pogo pins are what touches the brass contact points on the device.
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The dock for the new would be different to the old. The pogo pins are what touches the brass contact points on the device.
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Cheers for the reply.
Anyone got a charging dock? or recommend one please OP3 on its way and like to have it stood up next to the bed like!
I would also like any suggestions for a cradle/dock. There are plenty of USB C cradles listed on Amazon and other sites, but they don't seem to support the Oneplus charging system.
Anyone know of a cradle/dock that would allow me to use the USB C cable that came with the OnePlus 3?
well if it's a usb dock overnight charging should be ok regardless of dash or not? I'm thinking if there isn't one soon I'll make one or something using a dash cable.
This one I am looking:
https://www.amazon.es/Type-C-soport...68248445&sr=8-14&keywords=base+de+carga+usb+c
It is Benson-tested (Benson is the Google Engineer that started all the thread about USB Type-C compliancy). It will NOT fast-charge or Dash-Charge your phone, but it will also not make a fire out of your phone. worth a try, I think I will order it soon.
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This one I am looking:
https://www.amazon.es/Type-C-soport...68248445&sr=8-14&keywords=base+de+carga+usb+c
It is Benson-tested (Benson is the Google Engineer that started all the thread about USB Type-C compliancy). It will NOT fast-charge or Dash-Charge your phone, but it will also not make a fire out of your phone. worth a try, I think I will order it soon.
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its the same im using. a bit tricky to plug the phone in without looking closely, but it works