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My wife just got a DROID 3 yesterday. I promptly used Pete's Motorola Root Tools to root the device, then used Titanium Backup to freeze a bunch of the bloatware that came on it. Today, she installed an OTA update and lost root. For the life of me I cannot figure out how to get root back. I tried re-running Pete's Motorola Root Tools, but adb shows the device as offline, so it isn't working. Anyone know how to get root back? Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to mention that after I rooted the phone, I installed the DROID 3 bootstrapper and recovery. I took a full backup before I used TB to freeze the bloat. Don't know if recovering this backup is the way to go...
You wont get root for this version till it's been found, the root process has been fixed by Moto.
Just RSD back to 5.6.890:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339816
Then follow the below link, install rootkeeper to keep root from previous version then update with Hashcodes OTA file pull:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1334704
-smc
Thanks for the info. The phone shows that its currently at 5.6.890. Is this because the OTA update wasn't completely successful?
riot1031 said:
Thanks for the info. The phone shows that its currently at 5.6.890. Is this because the OTA update wasn't completely successful?
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I think you probably updated to 5.6.890 not the leaked OTA. Maybe check to see USB debugging is still on and run the 1 click again. FYI the leaked update 5.7 is not rootable at this point but 5.6 is.
Thanks alot guys!! I was able to get her phone re-rooted and everything looks good.
Since getting a D3 I've picked up a few more techniques and strategies for easily keeping my root and customizing my device. I've found that Root Keeper will ensure you keep your root even after installing a custom ROM
MerkXR4 said:
Since getting a D3 I've picked up a few more techniques and strategies for easily keeping my root and customizing my device. I've found that Root Keeper will ensure you keep your root even after installing a custom ROM
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Although most custom ROMs have root/superuser built into them...
I got the Bionic on Tuesday and one of the first things it asked me to do was an ota update. 893. I tried rooting at that point and couldn't. I just proceeded to upgrade to. 901. Now i ask can i still root or do i need to roll back first? Is it even possible?
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using xda premium
Anyone apply Full 5.5.893 FXZ and lost root? Yeah, me too!
Here is a Root Method for the Offical 5.5.893.
This has been crafted to carry over Root to 5.9.901 (tested stock rooted 55893 to 59901 via update).
1) Unzip contents of h t t p://dl.dropbox.co...236/ROTA893.ZIP
2) Inside ROTA893 directory is runmebbb.bat
3) Close yours eyes and take a nap.
4) Wake UP!
Easy rooting toolkit (v3.0bbb)
created by DooMLoRD
BioniCfied (silent C Mod) by realBBB for 5.5.893
using exploit zergRush (Revolutionary Team)
Credits go to all those involved in making this possible!
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[*] This script will:
(1) roots 5.5.893 Bionic by oldschool zergRush (17 Oct)
(2) installs Busybox (1.19.0)
(3) installs SU files (binary: 3.0.3.2 and apk: 3.0.7)
(4) installs Minimal 43V3R Root by BBB
(5) Allows root carry through to 5.9.901
[*] Before u begin:
(1) make sure u have installed adb drivers for ur device
(2) enable "USB DEBUGGING"
from (Menu\Settings\Applications\Development)
(3) enable "UNKNOWN SOURCES"
from (Menu\Settings\Applications)
(4) [OPTIONAL] increase screen timeout to 10 minutes
(5) connect USB cable to PHONE and then connect to PC
(6) skip "PC Companion Software" prompt on device
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Happy New Years!
BBB
Running with Clogs.
the download link is broke i cant click on it plz edit or post a mirror
h t t p://dl.dropbox.com/u/54323236/ROTA893.ZIP
BBB
E=MC^2 is A=(PI)R^2 aka Energy is Two Dimensional.
So do i need to go back, get the root, and then go to 901 again?
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using xda premium
Yes...that is the only way until a new exploit is developed for .901 and later versions.
I attempted running this root exploit before upgrading to .901 but I still lost root after the upgrade. What's a guy to do?
rjp0615 said:
I attempted running this root exploit before upgrading to .901 but I still lost root after the upgrade. What's a guy to do?
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use the bionic path saver it will roll you back 886 root you and push 893 and 901 to your phone. you do not have to install 901. after you flash 893 root and forever root the make sure forever root keeps after a reboot. using root explorer go to system/bin/mount.ext.sh or something like that and make sure you have 3 lines at the bottom that start with chmod 4755. if they are there then install 901
I've also tried the path saver, and after installing 901 I still lose root. I also tried installing 893, rebooting, noticing that I kept root, and then after running the 901 update I lost root again.
Edit: GOT IT! I used the pathsaver to restore to 893 and then I used ROTA893 to root and the r3l3as3d tool to forever root. now I'm on rooted 901! Thanks guys
rjp0615 said:
I've also tried the path saver, and after installing 901 I still lose root. I also tried installing 893, rebooting, noticing that I kept root, and then after running the 901 update I lost root again.
Edit: GOT IT! I used the pathsaver to restore to 893 and then I used ROTA893 to root and the r3l3as3d tool to forever root. now I'm on rooted 901! Thanks guys
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r3leased not needed if you used rota893. It has a streamlined 43v3r already included.
pathsave then rota893.. good to go to 901 with root.
BBB
Still Thinking of All of It.
I am on 5.9.901 and still have root.
Pretty stable. It was hell trying to get on to 5.9.901 as I hosed the boot, hosed all sort of stuff. Took 30 hours worth of muck and many helps from XDA and other site to get it going. But managed to get back on to 5.9.901 and rooted.
Worth every hours spent!
I forever rooted while on 5.893 just flashed .901 update now I no longer have root access
do I have to go through this whole process again?
ROB281 said:
I forever rooted while on 5.893 just flashed .901 update now I no longer have root access
do I have to go through this whole process again?
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did you make sure that foreverroot stayed after a reboot?
neckbonest said:
did you make sure that foreverroot stayed after a reboot?
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Yes, actually ran 5.893 rooted for over a week with several reboots
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using xda premium
thats odd. i went from 893 to 901 back to 886 to 893 and now back on 901 and never lost root.
smilepak said:
I am on 5.9.901 and still have root.
Pretty stable. It was hell trying to get on to 5.9.901 as I hosed the boot, hosed all sort of stuff. Took 30 hours worth of muck and many helps from XDA and other site to get it going. But managed to get back on to 5.9.901 and rooted.
Worth every hours spent!
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I also had a hell of a fiasco when I tried to upgrade liberty rom to .901. Took me half a day at work to get my phone back up and working again. I'm at .901 stock unrooted and I think I'll stay here for a while. Gun shy at this point.
deitiphobia said:
I also had a hell of a fiasco when I tried to upgrade liberty rom to .901. Took me half a day at work to get my phone back up and working again. I'm at .901 stock unrooted and I think I'll stay here for a while. Gun shy at this point.
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I am running 901 unrooted temporarily as well until a new exploit is available. The path saver did root the previous build for me but the second I pushed the 901 update root was lost.
CAn this exploit be run on a MAC?
cb7tuner93 said:
CAn this exploit be run on a MAC?
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By exploit are you referring to the path saver? I am not very familiar with Macs and what files they are able to run but if I had to wager a guess I would say no. Perhaps via bootcamp though.
This may sound dumb and noobish but I have an idea I would like to put out there. Is it possible to look at the code from Motorola's update files and copy said signature into the superuser file? This, in theory, would fool the phones factory recovery into installing the file and thus rooting the device.
Just brainstorming here
I rooted my phone about 5 months ago and toyed with it a little, but now I noticed it's not rooted anymore. I've been trying to use Pete's tool to either root or unroot it and I keep getting this error:
ERROR: adb could not be granted root access via local.prop method
Any ideas? I'd be happy to either get it rooted or back to stock again.
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433783
Run this instead, you may have lost root when you got the last update. follow the instructions you will be fine
Have you tried the 4ever root method as described here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279825
Also, for future instances: It's a good idea to 1) search and if that doesn't answer your questions then 2) always be sure to list what system version you're on or what ROM/rev to help aid in troubleshooting.
dan46n2 said:
Have you tried the 4ever root method as described here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279825
Also, for future instances: It's a good idea to 1) search and if that doesn't answer your questions then 2) always be sure to list what system version you're on or what ROM/rev to help aid in troubleshooting.
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The link to 4ever root is broken, been looking but cant find a new one.
It's System Version 5.5.893.
Can I do a factory reset without it bricking?
mbentley3 said:
The link to 4ever root is broken, been looking but cant find a new one.
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if Droid Th3ory's site is still down, someone made this mirror for 4ever root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20830265&postcount=236
this should fix your problem
streetr8cer13 said:
if Droid Th3ory's site is still down, someone made this mirror for 4ever root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20830265&postcount=236
this should fix your problem
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Tried that with all the options and it didn't work. Even with the pre-release drivers it just said waiting for device when it's at the Fastboot. I tried the other ones and they all failed.
I have been looking for a "root on demand" solution. I have a few custom programs that run for work which require a "non-rooted" android device. I was hoping to find a solution to root my phone, use titanium backup, then un-root but have not been successful in finding something like that.
FYI, if psouza4's oneclick root fails,
AND
43V3R root failed too,
THEN
try the ROTA893 root (obviously only works on .893 firmware)
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13807-root-ota-55893-aka-rota893/
ok very new to rooting just rooted 2 days ago on 893 now installed update to 902 lost root...but here is my concern my phone grants super user but cant gain root access and i didnt unfreeze bloat and the update was still successfull now i cant even access titatium to unfreeze cause root cant be established so i dont understand how i can partially be rooted and just to mention as far as i can tell there are no known problems with the phone anywhere else but what should i do to get root back or is it just a simple configuration problem thanks
There's an exploit available that will root the .902 update -- Motofail. It says Droid 4 but it works with the Bionic, RAZR and Droid 3 as well.
what are the risks im pretty new and dont wanna do something i dont fully understand or that i might regret later..and how did the update complete without unfreezing bloat and where is it now.lol i guess im asking does it matter i just wanna get it right
It's pretty straightforward, basically a one-click root method.
As far as the update, it depends on which specific apps you had frozen. Apparently the ones you froze were not on the list of apps the update checks for.
i can pm you instructions on step by step instructions to root from stock to 902 root if you like someone helped me today about to do it myself here in about 5 minutes
ok thanks for the input i did motofail and it worked back in root now does anyone know of an app to overclock without changing rom
unbesorgt said:
There's an exploit available that will root the .902 update -- Motofail. It says Droid 4 but it works with the Bionic, RAZR and Droid 3 as well.
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I just received 902 today and lost my root. I ran this and it's all good again. I have the Bionic. Thanks for the post!
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
First item, this is a question so it should belong in the question and answer threads! Secondly look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
Sent on my Moto X
Sorry, and thanks! I'll probably give this a shot, make that camera work a little better...
You can always install the SafeStrap ROM here. That's what I did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484908
[Rom] [VZW] SafeStrap 139.12.57
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The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
Sent from my Moto X
mercado79 said:
This method makes it so SafeStrap is no longer available though, right? If that's not the case then... Don't know what I've been waiting for!
Sent from my Moto X
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I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
dymmeh said:
I searched around and can't really find an answer to that. I don't use SafeStrap so I have no idea. I'd assume you can try the method I posted and try using SafeStrap after. If that doesn't work then just RSD back to pre-update and hang on to SafeStrap until it's figured out. No guarantees if it'd work / break stuff, though. You'd be the guinea pig for that one.
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@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
Sent from my Moto X
mercado79 said:
@jcase Any chance you can answer this for us? Just cause someone was able to keep root (the one shot kind you mentioned), does that mean that using RSD is still on the table?
Sent from my Moto X
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If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
juancaperez2000 said:
If you take the OTA you dont have wY to revert to old stock Motorola block the reverts already and @jcase already said that he will be back for root in this device till 4.3 is out
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That's what I thought too. Thanks.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
will2live said:
For sure have I just updated my Moto X the other day on VZW and kept root. Here is a link to the process on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466191
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I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
MikeyNick said:
All,
Has anyone on Verizon done the OTA update and kept root? From what I've been reading, sounds like if you rooted with MotoRoot then you're okay, but not if you used PwnMyMoto.
As far as people getting a bootloop, that does make some sense because the recovery partition is really just the boot image... So I can flash the stock recovery to the recovery partition before running the update, and that should theoretically prevent a bootloop. However, if this is going to erase my root, then I don't want to do the update.
So, has anyone on verizon done the OTA and kept their root? How did you do it?
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mercado79 said:
I think that's not up for debate. The issue is that even though you kept root, you're now blocked from using safestrap or ever gaining root again in the future (once another ota comes through). The update has now patched root going forward and it sounds like you won't be able to keep it after this update.
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Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
boardrx182 said:
So I installed PwnMyMoto, SuperSU and OTA Root Keeper, then decided not to root. I installed the Verizon update and boom, I'm rooted. Is that what you're saying is needed? I was surprised that root apps all work fine for me, I really didn't do anything but install those apks before I installed the camera update!
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As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
dymmeh said:
The way that everyone (including myself) have been updating and keeping root on Verizon is as followed:
1. RSD back to stock (instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515)
2. Install PwnMyMoto and DO NOT RUN IT
3. Download and install OTA
4. When the install completes, your phone will reboot a few times. This is just PwnMyMoto doing its magic.
5. Profit.
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dymmeh said:
As long as you had PwnMyMoto and never ran it / not rooted you were good to go. SuperSU could be installed before or after. I dont think OTA Root Keeper was needed at all. PwnMyMoto runs after a reboot so once you installed the OTA and rebooted it did its rooting magic automatically for you. Glad it all worked out for you
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That's awesome, didn't realize that would happen automatically. I completely expected that I'd have to complete the entire root process steps that were outlined in an earlier post if I wanted root. Thanks for the reply.
will2live said:
Safestrap i know about and dont care about as i dont use it. As for moving forward with root I'll be surprised if that is the case but I wont disagree either. It is very possible they patch something to actually block root down the road. From my understanding tho currently the patch is blocking ppl to root the update not keeping root if the process is followed correctly. My guess is odds are it will be the same on the next OTA just like we had to do on the original Razr line to keep root until the bootloader was unlocked. However if the next OTA is 4.3 tha tcould all change for sure as anything is possible. Even so when that time comes I'll just unlock mine. I do have a Dev edition i just haven't unlocked with it being brand new and not wanting to void warranty yet to make sure hardware is cool but i do want root so i went the long route for now is all.
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people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
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people who have moto employee friends say they are moving to 4.3 next. Also, there may be a work around for you to keep root with the next release, but because people who aren't on dev phones that must be sure they can retain root would not have used this method (as it is a one chance type of method). so it is more likely that any new workarounds that people come up with will be for those that still have the ability to downgrade to original stock firmware. Also, SS is nice because it gives you the ability to run the phone just like you normally would but you can create complete backups of the device so you don't have to set everything up all over again if you screw something up with your phone. Even if you don't use SS for flashing roms it is still useful for back ups.
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I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
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I have my Moto contacts and yes they are moving to 4.3 next last i was told when I asked. As for downgrading stock software that isn't going to happen once updated as you can't go backwards. Moto devices have been that way going back to the original Droid Razr. Its few and far between where you could actually go backwards after an OTA. So unless you mean stock of the current build installed then ppl will have issues for sure. That said if ppl OTA and have root now but for whatever reason need to use the new fastboot file that was just posted they will in fact be SOL for gaining root. This is exactly why I refuse to buy consumer units from the carrier besides a few other reason I wont go into. My theory is simple we want to mess with device buy an unlockable one or be ready to suffer/wait for an exploit after an OTA hits.
As far as root moving forward what process you talking about tho? There is 2 ways to do it. The one posted right above your post in this thread, or the link I posted above. If the info in this thread was used yes there may be an issue because of the patch. However I will be very surprised to see ppl not be able to keep root if they updated using the process in the link I posted above. Besides having to fastboot the boot.img to recovery in that process its the same way original Droid Razr owners had to update to be able to keep root if there was no root process for the OTA being pushed. Moving forward my guess is there will be an issue once 4.3 hits tho. I'm not sure you will be able to use the old kernel from 4.2.2 to overwrite recovery and boot the 4.3 /system so you can restore root and pull the actual 4.3 boot.img so that can be used for the recovery highjack. Bottom line is only time will tell at this point as you never know what Moto/Google will do with the next update.
Agreed on SS for backups even if not flashing ROMs, but personally i just dont mess with my device enough to worry about a full back i guess. For apps/settings I just use MyBackup PRO. I've also have an app a buddy made that creates a full XML if i wanted to use it. In the old days I use to make alot of backups for ROM flashing when I used SS. Guess in my old age I've just got lazy and dont worry about it that much anymore. I really hose the device I'll just swap to one of my others til i get back to fixing the messed up one.
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3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
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3 ways to maintain root are the one in the thread, SS, and the one you posted. The one you posted actually allows you to flash the original stock firmware on the phone because the BL was never touched thus the security (keeping you from downgrading) was never installed. That was what I was referring to when I said those that must make sure they will retain root in the future would not have done the install pwnmymmoto without running then take ota then run pwnmymoto. As you said those people will be screwed if the next root requires you to flash back to original stock or use part of the pwnmymoto exploit that will only be accessible to those that got the OTA with SS or the link you posted. I don't toy with my phone as much as I used to especially this one, but bypasing exchange security is pretty essential for me. I don't want an encrypted device with mandatory pin. I never lose my phone and I would know within minutes of losing it if i ever did so I could shut it down remotely.
And I'm not sure about the new kernel situation either. This is why I wanted to make sure I could go back to original firmware as I see that being our best bet to retain root through 4.3, assuming jcase doesn't release another exploit for it to get some cash.
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Gotchya, makes total sense now what you are saying. I think there is just confusion at times when talking about root & OTA because of different ways to do it in a case like this device. Being a Moto guy for so long tho i'm use to all the BS they throw at us.....lol. That said that is why i posted the link I did. Imho it's a bad plan to update using the other method of installing pwnmymoto and not running it first before taking the OTA. Doing the process to protect root before updating is a much safer bet atm imo. Sure its a little more work but at the end of the day you dont have to be worried as much moving forward. Only concern I have still for doing it the longer way is if that process will work when they push out 4.3. It had alot of changes in it so lord only knows what will be up for keeping root. And really in my case its no concern but for all the folks with consumer version it is still a concern i think for the time being