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OK, so my mom insisted that she needs a Nexus One, and that I need to root it for her and put a custom ROM on. She lives in a country where Android phones are not very available. Anyway.
I know what you're thinking - I'd be stuck doing tech support for my mom. Well there was a week of that, and then she ran around bragging about her phone to all her friends, and now THEY ALL WANT ONE.
So I agreed (read: got guilted) into setting another one up for a Close Friend of the Family. Now when I did my mom's she pretty much gave me her google account info and I just set it up for her. What I'd prefer to do is install a bunch of apps and then wipe all the userinfo so they have to put in their own google account info. But when I go into recovery and do a wipe, of course, all the apps go, too.
Is there any simple way of doing this?
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OK, so my mom insisted that she needs a Nexus One, and that I need to root it for her and put a custom ROM on. She lives in a country where Android phones are not very available. Anyway.
I know what you're thinking - I'd be stuck doing tech support for my mom. Well there was a week of that, and then she ran around bragging about her phone to all her friends, and now THEY ALL WANT ONE.
So I agreed (read: got guilted) into setting another one up for a Close Friend of the Family. Now when I did my mom's she pretty much gave me her google account info and I just set it up for her. What I'd prefer to do is install a bunch of apps and then wipe all the userinfo so they have to put in their own google account info. But when I go into recovery and do a wipe, of course, all the apps go, too.
Is there any simple way of doing this?
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If the apps you're installing are free and non-protected, you can back them up with AppMonster, copy those .apks over onto the new phone, and install there. No need to set up an account for most of those.
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If the apps you're installing are free and non-protected, you can back them up with AppMonster, copy those .apks over onto the new phone, and install there. No need to set up an account for most of those.
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They're all free apps, so that's not a problem. I figured I could adb install, or something like what you're describing, but my concern is whether or not they'll be auto-upgraded through Market (or rather whether they'll get notifications saying updates are available).
Yes, they will be. If you use Titanium for backup, for example, you'll be able to restore the apps before logging in to Market. That's what I do when I change ROMs.
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Yes, they will be. If you use Titanium for backup, for example, you'll be able to restore the apps before logging in to Market. That's what I do when I change ROMs.
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That's pretty cool... except I realise I still need to do the initial login to the phone to run titanium backup. I want to send this to people so when they turn it on they get the "Welcome to Android!" screen, so they get the little tutorial and get to set up their account directly over there without me having to tell them "Ok click menu, then settings..." etc.
Also, I'd like to setup some applications for them - set up browser homepage/bookmarks, some ADWLauncher settings, and preferably which icons/widgets are on the desktops. I know Titanium can do that (though I'm not sure which setting is the desktop) but again, I'd have to login.
Is there maybe something I can wipe to make it rerun the intro screen?
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Is there maybe something I can wipe to make it rerun the intro screen?
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not sure if this will work but...
could you install everything you wanted then go into settings, accounts & sync click on your old account and select "remove account"
let me know if this helps
jonesy420 said:
not sure if this will work but...
could you install everything you wanted then go into settings, accounts & sync click on your old account and select "remove account"
let me know if this helps
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I think if you do that it just starts with no account, like if you start it and skip entering n account.
Just build your own gapps-style package with everything you want included, then flash it without even logging in.
Alternatively, using your own phone, backup the apps and settings, and use App Monster out similar to backup Titanium as an apk. Then you can install everything without ever having to sign in...
You can skip the initial sign in by touching the four corners of the screen when the android appears, starting top left and working clockwise...
So if you have already signed in, just follow these steps:
Wipe all data
Boot up and skip sign in
Install apps (Titanium if rooted, App Monster if not)
Make whatever settings you want
Power off
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Am new to Android two weeks ago. I had to have my new SGS replaced and thought that all the phone settings and apps were being synced with my google account (I've always had Background Data and Auto-sync checked on as well as my google accounts set to sync on for Gmail, Contacts and Calendar). Having powered on the new replacement and entered my google account settings I was expecting it to recognise that the new device was not in sync with google and offer to push everything back down to the phone.
All that has happened is my Contacts, Gmail and Calendar are in sync but the phone settings & previously installed apps through the market place are not.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and look at one of the previous apps I had installed such as BBC iPlayer it shows my rating and comment so it knows its me but only offers the option to reinstall the app again from the market, i.e. finding each app manually and reinstalling. Is it not supposed to restore the apps you have previously installed? I reinstalled this app from the market but it hasn't restored the user data associated with the app.
Having dug a little further whilst writing this, I notice that if I log into the Android Market through a web browser on the PC I can see in the "Orders" screen the apps that I previously downloaded. However, on the next tab "Settings" shows My Devices with the old and new phone listed. There doesn't seem to be a way to remove the old phone from my account or tell it that the new phone actually replaces the old so just give me the old data to the new device.
Being new to Android I did think that this was meant to work slicker than this, I hope someone can help out a newbie please?
If you go into the Market and look at My Apps, you should be able to redownload them all (I think an option exists to download them all with a single click "update all" or something like that). Most people backup their applications etc using Tatanium Backup so that they easily restore user apps after ROM upgrades etc. You can also backup SMS messages using an app from the Market.
When you first enter a new Google account into your phone, there is a check box to restore your apps from the Market. This actually is usually best NOT to use since it can cause a sudden massive download.
It is in all ways safer and smarter to just go into MyApps and reinstall the apps one by one. It may take a little longer, but it is a better method.
Titanium Backup is a good option for restoring apps after you flash a new rom, but it won't do you any good if you change phones.
Unfortunately that isn't the case.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and "My Apps" I don't see the apps that were installed on the old phone and thus no option from My Apps to reinstall them.
The only apps that are present in My Apps are those that were I guess added by Three's flavour of this 2.2 OS, which are the Three app plus Google Maps and YouTube.
Their seems to be something wrong with market place if it is meant to work how your suggesting. If I log into market place through my PC that google account sees both the old and new phone but doesn't on the phone offer the old apps to the new phone.
I'm pretty sure that when I entered my google account details earlier that there was no option box to restore as I would have taken that option as I have an unlimited data plan.
I wonder if I should do a factory reset and re enter the account details again but I fear that it will just see this new phone in the market place and not the old one as they obviously have some sort of device id.
Unfortunately it looks like Titanium is just for rooted devices and am not ready to go down that route (no pun intended) just yet.
If the apps and app data are suppose to sync with google then it seems like an unnecessary duplication of work to redo something outside of what should be part of Android natively.
If I have to install a backup app then I would want to find one that backs up all the phone settings, apps and app data to the SD card which I can then move over to the PC where there is obviously more storage. It would be nice to find such an app that provides a selective restore so that it would also be compatible with a new different model phone so that only the apps and app data could be restored.
I know this isn't specific about the P970, but that's the Android I have, and that's where I'm experiencing this very annoying thing with Android and SIM.
All other phones I've had, all of them, always gave me the option to store both my SMS's and my contacts to the SIM card instead to the phone, and to transfer both SMS/contacts from/to the phone to the SIM and vice-versa. And it's a feature I found extremely useful, not only for keeping my privacy, but mostly for keeping my contacts and my messages always with me, no matter of which phone I'm using: mine, my brother's, my girlfriend's, or my mother's. (Even very useful when flashing different ROMs, trying CM7, going back to nova, or to stock, etc.)
All other phones I've ever had could do this, except Android.
With Froyo it was already not possible (or at least I never found how) to use the SIM for messages. Only I could use the phone. But still contacts could be saved to the SIM.
But now, with Gingerbread, it's even worse: the SIM is totally ignored (except, of course, exclusively for importing its contacts).
What's the f...g problem Google has with SIMs? Why this "discrimination". Why Google doesn't like SIMs?
I have a theory
Don't really know what you're talking about man, I have LG OB [that's why I'm here of course] and when I save new contact theres this option that clearlly say "save contact to: phone, SDcard, SIM"... even if is an existing contact you can move it or copy it to the SIM... before posting I checked so I'm pretty sure theres something you didn't notice or something
I guess google wants you to maximize the cloud feature on android so SIM is not used anymore as contact storage.
But i agree with you, user has the right to choose, not significant for most of us but by providing this option maybe useful for some users like you.
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In LG's froyo you could save and import contacts/sms to the phone from your simcard.
But now as I'm using CM7 I don't see an option to create a contact for my simcard.
Not a big deal for me since I like this whole cloud thing. Perhaps there's an app in the market that will let you backup your stuff to your sim card?
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Don't really know what you're talking about man, I have LG OB [that's why I'm here of course] and when I save new contact theres this option that clearlly say "save contact to: phone, SDcard, SIM"... even if is an existing contact you can move it or copy it to the SIM... before posting I checked so I'm pretty sure theres something you didn't notice or something
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Hi. Don't know if you read well my post.
I say: in Froyo, you can manage contacts in your SIM, though you don't have setting for "store messages in SIM" card. You have to do it one by one.
But in Gingerbread, you can't any longer use your SIM, either for storing contacts or messages.
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I guess google wants you to maximize the cloud feature on android so SIM is not used anymore as contact storage.
But i agree with you, user has the right to choose, not significant for most of us but by providing this option maybe useful for some users like you.
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That's what I mean. There are still users who prefer (or who even need) to store contacts and messages in SIM. For this, Google didn't need to implement a new feature: it would have been enough with leaving the feature which was already there. There are some "hidden corners" in the Gingerbread settings where -I bet- not more than 0,01 % of the users ever get to, but still they're there! How come they've totally disregarded the "store to SIM" idea?
yeomond said:
In LG's froyo you could save and import contacts/sms to the phone from your simcard.
But now as I'm using CM7 I don't see an option to create a contact for my simcard.
Not a big deal for me since I like this whole cloud thing. Perhaps there's an app in the market that will let you backup your stuff to your sim card?
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Yes, there are a couple of apps that let you do it. But they're not very efficient, they're useful only for contacts (not for messages), and it's quite annoying and time consuming to use them. I liked much better the Froyo approach.
zogoibi said:
Hi. Don't know if you read well my post.
I say: in Froyo, you can manage contacts in your SIM, though you don't have setting for "store messages in SIM" card. You have to do it one by one.
But in Gingerbread, you can't any longer use your SIM, either for storing contacts or messages.
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hehe... my mistake, you right I didn't take a good read at your post, and you're right can't seem to move/copy sms to SIM... I don't use that feature, but I do with contacts as backup, now you say you can't in GB, what about import/export to SDcard?? at least for contacts you can do that to SDcard
Yes, you can do that, save to SD. But it's not the same, there's not the same flexibility as with Froyo. And, after all, if you save to SD, you're still "bound" to the "Android universe", you can't escape: what's the use of having your contacts in your SD, Android format, unless you put that same SD to another Android phone? But imagine you want to migrate to Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Blackberry... whatever.
Maybe I'm too "nasty-minded", but I'm convinced that Google is not playing fair game here...
zogoibi said:
Hi. Don't know if you read well my post.
I say: in Froyo, you can manage contacts in your SIM, though you don't have setting for "store messages in SIM" card. You have to do it one by one.
But in Gingerbread, you can't any longer use your SIM, either for storing contacts or messages.
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WTF!? i just upgraded my moms phone and accidentally uninstalled the PC suite back up program that had ll the programs cause the uninstall button is RIGHT next to the pc suite button. now your saying i can't use the sim contacts? i am stating for the record i can't get Froyo back.
EDIT: you can import sim contacts from the sim.
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EDIT: you can import sim contacts from the sim.
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Yep, and that's about what you can do with your SIM thanks to Google-the-Good-Guys. But think of this: in an ideal Android-Google world, a few months or couple years from now, nobody will have a single contact in their SIM because everyone had been using Android long enough; therefore, the "import for SIM" feature will be perfectly useless, and I can predict: it will be removed from future Android versions.
Hey All,
It is almost 10 months I am using this LG-P970 phone, but until now I've seen nothing but a headache, does anyone else agree?
My main problem (besides the bad performance) is the incident of losing my contacts.
It has happened to me 4 times until now under Froyo, Gingerbread and even Zeus 7 (the most recent incident 2 days ago).
Simply it happens when I open the contacts list, I see that all my contacts are erased in addition to the call log, and I am very aware it is not a matter of contacts display setting as some people might suggest.
The first time this happened to me my contacts were not even synced with Google because I didn't know the contact type should be "Google Contact" in order for it to be synced, and every time I want to create a new contact I have to change its contact type before saving it (I know how to convert existing contacts but please tell me if there is another method to automate the process for new contacts).
I don't know what you think of this phone, but I am pretty sure that my new mobile phone won't be related to the LG family.
Cheers all!
i've never experienced data loss with any of the ROMs
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i've never experienced data loss with any of the ROMs
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Me too...
Inviato dal mio LG-P970 con Zeus V6.39
All of the described below seems more than an user problem than your phone, btw, I never lose contacts or data
ErnuB said:
All of the described below seems more than an user problem than your phone, btw, I never lose contacts or data
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You seem to have a good control of your P970, can you expert explain to us how data loss can be a user problem?
Well the best solution is to NOT sync your contacts with Google.
It can either delete new contacts when you restore, or it restores deleted contacts, personally it's crap lol.
Just save them all on your SIM!!! If ever you lose Sim contacts like that. then it's your SIM which is damaged.
I NEVER experienced such problem.
And just to say, Optimus Black is not a crappy phone at all! Mind the way you define it.... Not because you are having contacts problems that it's a crappy phone... It may be an app causing this problem, your SIM card which is damaged, or whatever else.
Yes it's a user problem, we don't know what are your settings after a full wipe and whatever you do wrong or what applications you install that wipes the contact list.
From the first android phone that i had years ago, g1, copied the sim numbers to phone and after adding the google account, google synced it automaticaly and saved all my contacts to google account.
Since then i've added/deleted several contacts, changed several phones (at least 10 with android), and every time i added in the google account to it the contacts where synced.
I think i flashed over 100 different roms, never bricked a phone, even though i used several methods to root and flash recovery, hardest method was on g1 and i think it was the most inteligent one, if any of you had one
Now i'm on zeus 7, so it must be your fault
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no need of google syncing or SIM backup.
contacts -> import/export ->export to sd card.
now u have a [email protected] card. just back it up on your computer or online storage and restore as many times u want. no tension.
in case of newer saves, just delete the old vcf and redo the process or just save normally. (the vcf's will be named progressively, 000,001,002...)
hope i helped.
regards,
achyut.
If your coming from somewhere else where you don't have contacts backuped on sd and only on sim.
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The contacts should be stored on your google acc.
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yaz87 said:
You seem to have a good control of your P970, can you expert explain to us how data loss can be a user problem?
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No need for sarcasm, I just don't find that annoying chosing google when creating a contact, a small fee for the great service i get in return
Thank you all for your participation .
Maybe "crappy" is not the right word to describe a P970 here as I have seen it has many fans (I did not mean to be offensive), and maybe you have a point if you never had any bad experiences with your devices, but what happened with me was annoying!
I would like to assume that I did something wrong with the phone the first three times I lost my contacts (it also happened when it was brand new - no flashes done or ROMs installed), but do you think the following is too wrong?
1. installed a clean Zeus 7 after multiple wipes/restore factory settings and cache wipes (using cwm in a patched V20B software version)
2. the ONLY apps that I installed were :whatsapp, viber, facebook, google translate, french language pack for the keyboard, and google maps
3. randomly I unlocked the phone once to see that my contacts were lost
As simple as that.
My OB sometimes clean my sms box... but i think it's related to OC and UV... when i set for example: [email protected] and [email protected], after some time my smss are gone, and it's almost as plain as the nose on your face (in my case).
I use titanium backup to save them and restore after loosing them, but after seting my cpu to stable config, sms are where they should be.
i've had a small problem with the p970 but that was a google problem.
i had my contacts stored on my google account, but wenever i made a new contact it wasn't stored in google.. so when i flashed a new rom the latest additions to my contacts were gone.
but as most of the people allready said, do not sync your contacts but export them to your sd card. works flawless..
but i never experienced the problems you have, performance is realy good with the great custom roms we have here at xda.
i have my p970 for 6 months or so and i'm very happy with it.
You need to sync your contacts to.
Not just save the on your phone.
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When we save a contact name with 2 mobile nos. (mobile contact and home contact).
When trying to save to SIM those contact.....saving is done only mobile contact.....the remaining is not saving...any solution..
I know about saving in vcf file...But I just want to know saving in SIM multiple nos with a single contact like vcf file..
sekhar13515 said:
When we save a contact name with 2 mobile nos. (mobile contact and home contact).
When trying to save to SIM those contact.....saving is done only mobile contact.....the remaining is not saving...any solution..
I know about saving in vcf file...But I just want to know saving in SIM multiple nos with a single contact like vcf file..
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SIM cards have relatively limited storage capabilities. They can store a contact and a number in each memory slot (I don't know if there is another piece of information that can be stored) but definitely it can't store two numbers for the same contact name that's why you see "X (home)" and "X(mobile)" for example as two separate entities.
I have the same problems with op - it has erased my contacts randomly 3-4 times in my 16 months of using it. Unrooted - official roms (2.2 and 2.3, various firmwares).
And a couple times sd card was 'destroyed' - losing everything stored there. Of course after reformatting sd card was fine....
I understand it is not a common issue - else more noise would be made around this issue, but something must be wrong with some batches.
A real disappointiment this phone.
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I know about saving in vcf file...But I just want to know saving in SIM multiple nos with a single contact like vcf file..
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It is simply not possible. The form of storing contacts data on SIM is rather ancient but it is industrial standard.
All I can say is the hardware is not at fault for the problems OP has listed in his post, it's a software thing.
Let's say it is possible to switch to a non-Google ROM. say Windows Phone 8 which doesn't sync with Google for its contact, the contacts will likely stay intact.
edit - Of course before anyone start jumping over Windows Phone 8 on our phones, no it's not happening and I'm using an easier example of switching OS to demonstrate that the hardware has nothing to do with software issues.
I'm taking an existing rom and removing some bloatware i don't want to run. Since this will not be a published thing, i want to personalize it some.
Is there a way i can have it set to have me logged in to google, and other apps as soon as it flashes? Maybe install few select apps and their settings, like live wallpaper.
I use dropsync paid app to sync entire memory card, say i have to replace device suddenly. That would be one of a few apps i want to have login and settings restored so when i flash rom on a blank phone, it just starts syncing and putting things back where they were on old phone. Also gCloud backup and set it to restore backups?
I could also do full wipes and never really loose anything.
Thoughts, rants?