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Hi fellas, I was wondering if it was worth going for the XT or wait for the XV to pop out? (in Belgium, they're still not out)
They're both kinda same except for screen sizes..
So, I wanna know, what are the pros & cons of those 2 devices.
Guess the XV is cheaper, right?
dugzino said:
Hi fellas, I was wondering if it was worth going for the XT or wait for the XV to pop out? (in Belgium, they're still not out)
They're both kinda same except for screen sizes..
So, I wanna know, what are the pros & cons of those 2 devices.
Guess the XV is cheaper, right?
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Get the Sony Xperia V. It's better than the Sony Xperia T. The Sony Xperia V has (but is not limited to) 4G and HSPA+, is IP57 certified - dust and water resistant, has a 342 ppi pixel density, has Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2, Bluetooth v4.0 and up to 18 h music play. All of those specs are better than the Sony Xperia T's specs.
V is more expensive, but it won't be released in Belgium. You could get it from the Netherlands through smartphoneshop.be or gsmwijzer.be in a few weeks though.
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Ambroos said:
V is more expensive, but it won't be released in Belgium. You could get it from the Netherlands through smartphoneshop.be or gsmwijzer.be in a few weeks though.
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What's your source for each of those statements?? P.S. What about for the UK?
If you want a large screen and more storage: The Xperia T is for you!
If you want waterproof and 4G: The Xperia V is for you!
There are some features on the XV that the XT doesn't have, (Bravia Engine 2, for example) however, these features are only on one and not the other because the XT was made earlier, they will be available through the Jelly Bean update.
If it makes your decision any easier: I chose the Xperia T!
I chose the Xperia V. I previously had the Xperia S.
I havent once looked back, and I'm EXTREMELY satisfied with the Xperia V.
The only minus with it is the storage. Its only slightly above 3GB of usable space on the V. But ofcourse, this can easily be fixed with a decent SD-Card and App2SD.
Even the spotify cache can be moved these days.
As stated above: Xperia V has 4G, water resist, Bravia Engine 2, 342 ppi, etc etc.
But it also have cons: Can not root (Bin4ary) with locked bootloader-, ports need to be opened/closed everytime for charging or using headphones, gets very hot when using 4G, not much development or interest yet by devs, Facebook bug (portrait rotate photo upload) and no leather case in the box.
Another con: the frontcam is utter ****.
Atleast compared to the one on the back. The main camera is amazing. Never seen a camera quite like it. But the one on the front.. not so much
the one on Xperia S is slightly better.
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As stated above: Xperia V has 4G, water resist, Bravia Engine 2, 342 ppi, etc etc.
But it also have cons: Can not root (Bin4ary) with locked bootloader-, ports need to be opened/closed everytime for charging or using headphones, gets very hot when using 4G, not much development or interest yet by devs, Facebook bug (portrait photo upload) and no leather case in the box.
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As for the cons: maybe at some point the devs will find a way of doing this - the point of XDA is that even if it takes ageeees, the devs eventually end up finding a way of doing something even if it's really difficult - in this case root would be the example. EDIT: Bootloader can be unlocked at: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ . How to Root and CWM with the latest 9.0.1.D.0.10 firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060815 . Flashable unsecure kernel:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024299 (I hope the development picks up as soon as the Xperia V is available globally - so far only Asia, Sweden and Russia have the Xperia V) ; can live with the port opening/closing if it means it's waterproof ; I know I will get some flak for this, but, I can also live with the fact that it gets hot with 4G ; the facebook bug is already being looked into (and will be addressed) by Sony ; and I am also not bothered about the lack of a leather case in the box - most phones don't include cases in the box anyway.
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As for the cons: maybe at some point the devs will find a way of doing this - the point of XDA is that even if it takes ageeees, the devs eventually end up finding a way of doing something even if it's really difficult - in this case root would be the example. EDIT: Bootloader can be unlocked at: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ . How to Root and CWM with the latest 9.0.1.D.0.10 firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2060815 . Flashable unsecure kernel:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024299 (I hope the development picks up as soon as the Xperia V is available globally - so far only Asia, Sweden and Russia have the Xperia V) ; can live with the port opening/closing if it means it's waterproof ; I know I will get some flak for this, but, I can also live with the fact that it gets hot with 4G ; the facebook bug is already being looked into (and will be addressed) by Sony ; and I am also not bothered about the lack of a leather case in the box - most phones don't include cases in the box anyway.
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Some phones cant be bootloader unlocked. Some can.
Thats the way it is. Mine could luckily be unlocked.
I bought mine here in Norway. And yes, Norway also got this phone for sale.
So your sources on only Asia, Sweden and Russia would be pretty good about now. Have had it in my store since early Dec.
Edit: And CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is currently available and is beeing worked on. Lets not forget that Sony gives away phones to developers (ie. CM) so it can be developed fast and proper. CM10.1 has quite a few flaws ofcourse, but in a few weeks I'd bet that most of it would be fixed.
I'm currently using CM10.1, and I'm quite content except the fact that the camera is not there, and there are some issues with the sound and the GSM. But all in all its in a pretty decent state coming to the fact that its 4.2
dmbardal said:
Some phones cant be bootloader unlocked. Some can.
Thats the way it is. Mine could luckily be unlocked.
I bought mine here in Norway. And yes, Norway also got this phone for sale.
So your sources on only Asia, Sweden and Russia would be pretty good about now. Have had it in my store since early Dec.
Edit: And CM10.1 (Android 4.2) is currently available and is beeing worked on. Lets not forget that Sony gives away phones to developers (ie. CM) so it can be developed fast and proper. CM10.1 has quite a few flaws ofcourse, but in a few weeks I'd bet that most of it would be fixed.
I'm currently using CM10.1, and I'm quite content except the fact that the camera is not there, and there are some issues with the sound and the GSM. But all in all its in a pretty decent state coming to the fact that its 4.2
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Edit: Sorry, instead of Sweden I meant to say Nordic countries
You're using CM10.1 (Android 4.2) on your Sony Xperia V? Which xda thread link please? I'm guessing you've unlocked the bootloader, flashed the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery (unsure which CWM version) before installing CM10.1??
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Edit: Sorry, instead of Sweden I meant to say Nordic countries
You're using CM10.1 (Android 4.2) on your Sony Xperia V? Which xda thread link please? I'm guessing you've unlocked the bootloader, flashed the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery (unsure which CWM version) before installing CM10.1??
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To be able to flash ROMs, that are not stock based you need unlocked bootloader.
You can flash ROMs with CWM that are stock based but you need root first.
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Edit: Sorry, instead of Sweden I meant to say Nordic countries
You're using CM10.1 (Android 4.2) on your Sony Xperia V? Which xda thread link please? I'm guessing you've unlocked the bootloader, flashed the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery (unsure which CWM version) before installing CM10.1??
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Hehe
Yes I am. Its in Xperia V development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2025.
And yes, I have unlocked my bootloader. I did flash the unsecure kernel, rooted and installed CWM recovery before installing CM10.1.
Thanks for the replies guys!
Lots of pros and cons, after checking the prices tho, XV is way too expensive for those few more features it has over the XT.
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V is more expensive, but it won't be released in Belgium. You could get it from the Netherlands through smartphoneshop.be or gsmwijzer.be in a few weeks though.
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Thanks for those links mate. I'll still wait a bit more before making a move but, I think I'll root for the XT.
The only worth feature the XV has over the XT is the water/dust resistance.
But, if for this feature I have to pay 100€ more then, no way!
Between 323 and 342ppi, you won't see any difference, will you?
PS: Thank AvRS for moving the thread.
dugzino said:
Thanks for the replies guys!
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You're welcome, but purely clicking on thanks is enough!
dugzino said:
Between 323 and 342ppi, you won't see any difference, will you?
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Think you might, it's one of a few reasons why I'm going for the V rather than the T as soon as the V releases in the UK at some point during this month.
I'd pick Xperia V. I mean I would sacrifice those open/close flaps for each port for a more durable phone. As for the root, I'm just happy that the developers here do a fast and good job to get a phone rooted unlike the developers that takes about a year to get their iPod jailbroken. I mean seriously. I got my iPod since November 2012 and the jailbreak (they jailbroken an iPhone already) can take up to a year.
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This is one of the phone display is very good.at home I only appear Xperia TX, but it is not developed at XDA, really sad.
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tuananh1901 said:
This is one of the phone display is very good.at home I only appear Xperia TX, but it is not developed at XDA, really sad.
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please ask Xperia TX can use the room's cook Xperia T?
I agree, we need an exclusive Xperia TX subforum. MODS/ADMINS, I hope you are reading this!
Guys, if there's any, then you have already seen it here by now. Let's face it, most devs got T not the TX. Maybe in time, we will have more ROMs but not at the moment.
Anyways, we can still enjoy it by rooting this lovely phone.
Tapatalked from my TX
Well, there should still be a subsection. That will promote more rom development.
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Well, there should still be a subsection. That will promote more rom development.
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No it won't. The only thing that will promote more development is more developers owning the device. Putting the device in a separate subsection will hurt development since it's extremely similar to the T.
Entropy512 said:
No it won't. The only thing that will promote more development is more developers owning the device. Putting the device in a separate subsection will hurt development since it's extremely similar to the T.
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Yes, it will. Developers don't need to own a device to port for it. If there was a subsection, I'm sure even FXP would have had a port out by now. Like they have one for the Xperia V.
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Yes, it will. Developers don't need to own a device to port for it. If there was a subsection, I'm sure even FXP would have had a port out by now. Like they have one for the Xperia V.
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Concur.
Or at least put TX on the list of devices, as done with TL which is just an operator's version of TL with no difference in design and specs.
TX, at least, have other id code (lt29 vs lt30 for T), other backcover design, and as was figured out, other firmware stuff packed.
I'll give my vote for a separate TX subsection. I'm owning the TX device, and I want to see stuff for my device.
TX is produced for East European, CIS, and Asian markets, which are IMHO larger in size than USA with their T(L)
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+1 too
Some Firmware and Hardware are diffrence from T
but forum has only T TL and V
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If there was a subsection, I'm sure even FXP would have had a port out by now. Like they have one for the Xperia V.
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What am I missing here?.. I was sure FXP supported TX and went to https://sites.google.com/site/projectfreexperia/known-bugs/supported-device just now, it says
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LT25i - V - tsubasa - CM10 work in progress
LT29i - TX - hyabusa - CM10 work in progress
LT30p - T - mint - CM10 work in progress
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So LT29i (TX, "hayabusa") is not the Xperia TX?
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As far as I know, FXP doesn't own XPeria TX. There are similarities to T but it is different. I have previously asked the Moderators and they were suppose to let the person in charge know but I guess their assumption was that Xperia T and TX are the same but I think instead of TL, they should add TX as TL is exact same as T with LTE and locked bootloader.
I think I read somewhere that developers that don't own a device can not publish their work unless being tested?
Any how, even tho I have moved to Xperia T I still think TX is different and little more recognition could help users here.
As a fan of custom ROMs particularly Cyanogen, I would say I just bought the wrong phone, LoL. I can only fault myself, hehehe. Should have waited for Z , that one sure got many people ticked their interest.
Tapatalked from my TX
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First of all, take it down a notch or two. No need to get so violent.
Second of all, unless I am sorely mistaken, most development on this forum is for the T and not the TL. So, your US argument is not only invalid but also uncalled for. The latter simply happens to work with most of the stuff for the T since the devs mod it just enough so it does work.
We might or might not add the section. As of yet, we do not see a real need for it. Lastly, as entropy said... A forum will not attract developers, a device will. As for the comment about the device not being needed. You are correct, for stock ROMs passed through a kitchen, there is very little risk involved and one could get away with no testing. However, real development like aosp requires the device since you need to new able to look at broken stuff when it happens. And let's not even touch the subject of recoveries, boot loaders, etc.
Now, tone it down a few pegs. If we add it, we'll add it and you will see it. For now, there are no plans for it.
Oh, and fuzalert? Consider this a friendly warning.
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I agree, we need an exclusive Xperia TX subforum. MODS/ADMINS, I hope you are reading this!
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I'm wondering too. Why not a xperia TX forum? This wonderfull phone is a Sony's flagship and a very interesting device. Hope we'll have more developpement for this in a separate forum.
Xperia TX rooted owner.
Nimche said:
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As far as I know, FXP doesn't own XPeria TX. There are similarities to T but it is different. I have previously asked the Moderators and they were suppose to let the person in charge know but I guess their assumption was that Xperia T and TX are the same but I think instead of TL, they should add TX as TL is exact same as T with LTE and locked bootloader.
I think I read somewhere that developers that don't own a device can not publish their work unless being tested?
Any how, even tho I have moved to Xperia T I still think TX is different and little more recognition could help users here.
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Uhmm.... they are the same exact phone with the following exceptions:
TX: 4.6" screen
T: 4.3" screen
TX: 15258 MiB ROM storage
T: 30518 MiB ROM storage
TX: has built in FM radio
TX: 1750 mAh battery
T: 1850 mAh battery
TX: Bluetooth 3.0
T: Bluetooth 4.0
TX: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
T: GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+
TX: 68.6 x 131 x 11.6 millimetres; 127 gramms
T: 67.3 x 129.4 x 10.45 millimetres; 139 gramms
Every other aspect of the device is exactly the same (processor, RAM, screen type, resolution, camera, etc). To say that one of them is better than the other would be silly. In fact, considering the larger capacity battery and HSPA+ connectivity... I would say that the T is a better device... but that is just my opinion (which I am keeping for myself). Devs go to the top devices normally because they know other devs will do the same. Availability plays a big role here as well. Getting devices from Asia is not a simple (or cheap) feat by any means. I hope this answers the question regarding the "TX is better than T" that was raised earlier in the thread.
Are there development threads for the TX that I may have missed anywhere in this site? Unless the answer is yes, I am not sure if this device will be given its own subforum.
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Uhmm.... they are the same exact phone with the following exceptions:
TX: 4.6" screen
T: 4.3" screen
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I am sure you mis-typed and Xperia T has 4.55" display and not 4.3"
TX design is different and to my eyes looks better.
and side note: I think TX was marketed in Easter Asian Countries and usually its much more expensive for Dev. to buy phone online instead of being available in their market.
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I am sure you mis-typed and Xperia T has 4.55" display and not 4.3"
TX design is different and to my eyes looks better.
and side note: I think TX was marketed in Easter Asian Countries and usually its much more expensive for Dev. to buy phone online instead of being available in their market.
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I grabbed those specs straight out of pdadb.net. There are a couple of versions of the T though so I guess it depends which one.... Still pretty much the same device
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Excuse my curiousness, but how many of those signing that petition/requesting the subforum are developers interested in the device?
Am just wondering.
I don't know if any of you realised this, but this "B" version of Jelly Bean firmware, which is currently present on TX (9.1.B.0.411), S (leaked 6.2.B.0.197), and SP (not sure about its build number), has a new multitasking interface that is extremely smooth and outperforms the sluggish ones on T, V and Z (which has been bugging the hell out of me). Now I don't know what this "B" means, but apparently it was developed in a later stage somewhere in Sony, and has a better performance, and I would like to have it on my T.
For S and TX users who had to wait a bit longer, I think your wait was worth it.
In case you're still in doubt, search any Youtube videos with these firmwares, notice how the interface slides in diagonally from bottom right, with the background being darkened afterwards.
Since no one has mentioned this, I feel like bringing this up. Are T, V and Z getting this "B" firmware update later on? Is this possible that we port this to our phones?
Just use the taskmanger.apk
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This is from Xperia SP system dump.
I think it's the darker one!
Thanks, tried a bunch of versions of this file (from S, from TX, and from SP's here in this thread thanks to Dj MiZo), but somehow all of them turn the multitask menu to AOSP style (CM, Arc, etc).
My guess is that this has something to do with some kind of deeper codes. Probably SystemUI.apk.
I see. I guess it's framework related.
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I see. I guess it's framework related.
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That one crossed my mind, too. Any idea what to do? Are the two framework similar or portable or something?
Also, I found that this UI has a failsafe AOSP multitasker that would replace the one with small apps should this one doesn't work somehow (renamed, not compatible).
As far as i know a framework from a different phone needs porting to work on yours and the same goes for system ui. Maybe you can use Xperia T and V files without porting on TX. But I'm not a developer!
Oh and Xperia SP has 12.0.A.1.211 firmware and the dark task switcher is also present on Xperia L, P and go without Small Apps.
This is a brilliant device. Unfortunately so few development going on...
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This is a brilliant device. Unfortunately so few development going on...
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It is brilliant, so brilliant that I moved to this from my Nexus 4. Sony UI is something I can live with for a very long time due to everything being minimalistic and close to stock but better than stock in every way. If I wanted better development I would move back to Nexus 4 in a heart beat but I don't think I will ever go back to Nexus.
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I agree
Its so bad that this device hasnt got the attention it deserves. I have pm krabbapel and he said he was going to make his carbon rom in the future, and doomlord said he didnt have the device so he wont be developing for it
FXP are already developing an CM rom for the ZR so this is a good start
I do agree even though SONY has its flagship Z1 Z and Z ultra, this is the sleeping giant workhorse that they need to highlight.
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It is brilliant, so brilliant that I moved to this from my Nexus 4. Sony UI is something I can live with for a very long time due to everything being minimalistic and close to stock but better than stock in every way. If I wanted better development I would move back to Nexus 4 in a heart beat but I don't think I will ever go back to Nexus.
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Same here, I came from a Galaxy Nexus (Nexus S, Nexus One, and HTC G1 before that) and although I prefer stock Android, it lacks so many features. I found Sony's UI clean and refreshing without trying too hard. I haven't found a need to root this baby yet. My ZR on 4.1 does way more than my GNexus on 4.3 (minus the root features of course) out of the box. The small apps and killer camera are the icing on the cake. With that said, I like Sony's design and UI that I'm willing to upgrade my nexus 7 to an Xperia Tablet Z in the near future.
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Its so bad that this device hasnt got the attention it deserves. I have pm krabbapel and he said he was going to make his carbon rom in the future, and doomlord said he didnt have the device so he wont be developing for it
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It might be a long shot, but it was successfully done with the Oppo find 5 and the Faux Kernal...(I think!)
What they did was organise a donation fund to get Faux the phone...after that he was happy to develop his kernal for the phone.
Perhaps you could give Doomlord a poke to see if he would be willing to accept such a thing and then ask the ZR community to take part? (Or maybe ask the ZR people first to see if they would do it...then see if Doomlord would accept...)
Random idea, could work...
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It might be a long shot, but it was successfully done with the Oppo find 5 and the Faux Kernal...(I think!)
What they did was organise a donation fund to get Faux the phone...after that he was happy to develop his kernal for the phone.
Perhaps you could give Doomlord a poke to see if he would be willing to accept such a thing and then ask the ZR community to take part? (Or maybe ask the ZR people first to see if they would do it...then see if Doomlord would accept...)
Random idea, could work...
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xperia sp forum members donated funds to doomlord, and he developed for xSP maybe you could ask him first if he's on to the idea
+1.
Nice idea for our future.
I remember DoomLord replied that he probably won't be developing for XZR since he doesn't own the device.
Not sure if donation can help that though...
with such good specs at a low price i dont get why this is a low activity device...:crying:
yeah.. i think we can blame sony itself for this problem... I really like the ZR and I have it now.. been so satisfied with it... but, yeah, too few development.. and it will get only worst because sony will be launching the z1 mini.. which is really comparable to the zr... sony is trying to follow samsung - flooding the market with too many models that are closely similar to one another..
if someone heads up a donation box for Doomlord for him to buy the zr, I would gladly donate 50 dollars...
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I remember DoomLord replied that he probably won't be developing for XZR since he doesn't own the device.
Not sure if donation can help that though...
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well try pm-ing doomlord about "donating" him a phone maybe its okay with him
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with such good specs at a low price i dont get why this is a low activity device...:crying:
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its not available everywhere, if this continues (very few users and low development) the device will end up like the acro S look at the Acro S forums+ the fact that almost no RC or RD or RT are present in XZR forum makes it more likely that development will die after fxp supports ends
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well try pm-ing doomlord about "donating" him a phone maybe its okay with him
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its not available everywhere, if this continues (very few users and low development) the device will end up like the acro S look at the Acro S forums+ the fact that almost no RC or RD or RT are present in XZR forum makes it more likely that development will die after fxp supports ends
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there's 4 page development on Acro S! It's not much but still for a phone that expensive yet doesn't seem to have any great hardware it's quite much developments!
but for this phone that runs smoothly and better comparing to Xperia Z, ZL and has less size and less resolution (about 1/4 times which makes battery run double times) and less mass I think this device get fairly low attention comparing to others!! even for a developer this one must be much more exciting than Xperia Z!
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there's 4 page development on Acro S! It's not much but still for a phone that expensive yet doesn't seem to have any great hardware it's quite much developments!
but for this phone that runs smoothly and better comparing to Xperia Z, ZL and has less size and less resolution (about 1/4 times which makes battery run double times) and less mass I think this device get fairly low attention comparing to others!! even for a developer this one must be much more exciting than Xperia Z!
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sort of, however, sony priced the zr as if a flagship. truth to be told, it's marketed as a flagship in japan (xperia a), and it's no slug. still, with the relatively small price difference between z and zr, it's easy to see why people will get the z instead. the z is also released 6 month earlier.
besides, zr isn't released in as many markets as z.
as i've said before, since zr shares much with z, as long as development for z is there, zr will likely be supported as well, but without a dedicated dev using zr him/herself, it's hard to picture a very good development environment.
unless sony discount the zr significantly very soon. this is likely to continue.
(before you ask, japanese seem to have their own commnity and aren't participating in xda, so their large nos. mean nothing to us)
Why worry.. as long as there is Z development, we can port almost EVERYTHING to ZR (including ROM's an Kernels)
One more reason is that people who do contribute are not thanked properly I think.
totally agree
well i had a few devices before and now i have htc one s S4, galaxy s4, xperia ZR, iphone 5
before xperia ZR between all of my phone i would stand and say htc one s and iphone 5 have best batteries between my devices, between xperia x8, xperia acro S, Xperia go, xperia V, galaxy S3, iphone 5, galaxy s4, but now i can say ZR beat my one S battery and not only on battery it beats the battery on my one s it beats the performance of S4 it beats the options of all of my previous xperia phones, and when it comes to heat it even beats the hell out of my iphone too it hardly produce any heat in my hands specially compared to xperia V and galaxy s4.
this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place? when we had good hardware and sh**** software with cra*** software support we would come here and look for help, but we still have updates and support and this device is almost (not fully) complete it doesnt need overclock it doesnt need more battery saving options it doesnt need so much bug fixes.
the only thing it need is a better front camera which is impossible with firmware and kernels so most of all a few ports and customizations remains which is not totally important right?
when i first had my xperia acro S it didnt have any custom firmware for a very long time the only thing was available = rooting my device! believe me for a very long time it was like this.
so my advice is to take your time guys relax if something came out use it if not dont be disappointed you wont miss so much you still have a great device with so many good things on it.
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this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place?
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I absolutely agree!! Even I found nothing in the kernel to tweak
dragunov_lq said:
well i had a few devices before and now i have htc one s S4, galaxy s4, xperia ZR, iphone 5
before xperia ZR between all of my phone i would stand and say htc one s and iphone 5 have best batteries between my devices, between xperia x8, xperia acro S, Xperia go, xperia V, galaxy S3, iphone 5, galaxy s4, but now i can say ZR beat my one S battery and not only on battery it beats the battery on my one s it beats the performance of S4 it beats the options of all of my previous xperia phones, and when it comes to heat it even beats the hell out of my iphone too it hardly produce any heat in my hands specially compared to xperia V and galaxy s4.
this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place? when we had good hardware and sh**** software with cra*** software support we would come here and look for help, but we still have updates and support and this device is almost (not fully) complete it doesnt need overclock it doesnt need more battery saving options it doesnt need so much bug fixes.
the only thing it need is a better front camera which is impossible with firmware and kernels so most of all a few ports and customizations remains which is not totally important right?
when i first had my xperia acro S it didnt have any custom firmware for a very long time the only thing was available = rooting my device! believe me for a very long time it was like this.
so my advice is to take your time guys relax if something came out use it if not dont be disappointed you wont miss so much you still have a great device with so many good things on it.
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This is EXACTLY why I'm still on locked BL! but anyway our device has lack of roms like Cyanogen Mod, AOSP, PAC MAN, AOSPA (Paranoid) and also bug free miui port! (which I like Pranoid and miui so much) I'm currently working on a port for miui (stock based one) but this is something hard to get! currently I'm getting bootloop at kernel and as I don't want to unlock my bootloader (I love BE2 ) it's really hard to get it booting, and I'm not sure if any developer wants to contribute or if I get any further than this but I'm trying to make it bookable at least
EDIT: good news is I just saw the miui boot screen, bad news is it's not more than 2 sec and still I don't have adb
EDIT: Do you guys have made or downloaded any rom based on stock 4.2.2? would you mind give me updater-script in your zip file /META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script
Thanks
EDIT: another good news is, got logcat ( have permission problems ) it would be great if anyone can give me an updater-script from downloaded or made stock rom (both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 are welcome) please pm me
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MuF123 said:
Hello,
I am happy user of SGS2 and I now I'm deciding between S4 and Z1. I know that Galaxy family has tons of ROMs updated regulary and how rooting/flashing works and I am kinda afraid to leave that nice ecosystem and so I have few questions.
1.: Does xperia family share developers? E.g. one ROM gets compiled to few devices by same cook? Are there plenty of neat roms to choose?
2.: Is it possible to hardbrick xperia device (by flashing wrong boot)?
3.: Are there any recurring problems with xperia family that only long time user knows?
4.: Is there someone else who switched from Galaxy S2/3/4 to Z1 - if so, why?
5.: By any chance - does Z1 support headphone remote control for iphones?
Thanks!
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First of all, welcome to the xperia family.
1. For now, there's not much in the development. Because the Z1 its just been released this september. We still need time, let the developers do their magic. Its just about time. If u want to see for example, go to xperia arc development. You will see many ROMs available.
2. Yup. Its possible. Every device has the possibility to be hardbricked. But dont worry, as long as u follow the instruction, u wont encounter any hard brick. Ive used xperia arc, xperia s, and xperia z1, and never encounter hardbrick.
3. The only problem that i know from the xperia family is that we are late on android updates.
4. I dont know
5. I think its gonna work, never tried it tho ..
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MuF123 said:
Hello,
I am happy user of SGS2 and I now I'm deciding between S4 and Z1. I know that Galaxy family has tons of ROMs updated regulary and how rooting/flashing works and I am kinda afraid to leave that nice ecosystem and so I have few questions.
1.: Does xperia family share developers? E.g. one ROM gets compiled to few devices by same cook? Are there plenty of neat roms to choose?
2.: Is it possible to hardbrick xperia device (by flashing wrong boot)?
3.: Are there any recurring problems with xperia family that only long time user knows?
4.: Is there someone else who switched from Galaxy S2/3/4 to Z1 - if so, why?
5.: By any chance - does Z1 support headphone remote control for iphones?
Thanks!
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I can answer your question about coming from an S3 to the Z1! I've found the Z1 much much better than the S3! No Touchwiz lag and bloat! Sure I miss some of the gesture stuff but I'll trade the lag free and minimalist changes to the android interface by Sony anytime. Also my battery lasts much longer than it ever did with the S3 and overall I'm quite happy! You might however find the display pannel to be inferior to Samsung's AMOLED screens. To be honest, viewing angles are not as good but still ok IMO... There are people complaining about yellow tint issue with Z1 and I became obssessed with that however after a few days of use, your eyes do get used to it and even in the tests, the whites look white... its a display calibration issue which Sony can easily fix in a firmware update..Also the Xperia Z had a tool to adjust white balance which is missing from the Z1 and should be brought in or will be ported.. Overall, I'll give a 8/10.. There are a few bugs but with the last update, quite a few were fixed.. Sony will keep this up so I expect it to be perfect in 1-3 months!
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MuF123 said:
I had totally lite rom in my S2 since day 1 so I don't mind touchwiz, you can get rid of it pretty easily...
I still struggle with the idea of:
-having larger phone than S4, and yet
-having smaller screen than S4 (because of those stupid software buttons)
Also I'm kinda afraid of the glass... I've had some rough landings with my S2 - 1.5m landing on display on pavement, then scratching another meter on it and - one minor dent on the plastic bezel. No cracked front glass, no cracked back glass (plastic cover sometimes wins )
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If you are struggling with these issues, I think Z1 is not a good option for you... I suggest you try the LG G2... bigger screen (5.2") than S4 with roughly the same size, not glass (also plastic as S4). UI is very close to S4... G2 has software buttons but that's because the bezels are so small, it can not fit a physical button... it has the same chip (S800) as Z1 and note 3... and is 100 dollars cheaper...