Hi all,
I've been plagued with this issue over the last month or so. I have location based services set to off and get a frequent popup box stating the following:
"Location Based Service Disabled. You need to enable location based services if you want to use the location-based features of this application. Once enabled, Kindle Fire will use Wi-Fi to help determine your location."
This comes up when I have Dolphin Browser open and go to Google, and sporadically at other websites. Anyone know a way to STOP this from coming up?? If I wanted this service enabled (which I don't, and won't), I would enable the thing. Why the constant nag to turn it on? It seems it must be related to a particular app I have installed, but I haven't been able to pinpoint which one.
Braves1995 said:
Hi all,
I've been plagued with this issue over the last month or so. I have location based services set to off and get a frequent popup box stating the following:
"Location Based Service Disabled. You need to enable location based services if you want to use the location-based features of this application. Once enabled, Kindle Fire will use Wi-Fi to help determine your location."
This comes up when I have Dolphin Browser open and go to Google, and sporadically at other websites. Anyone know a way to STOP this from coming up?? If I wanted this service enabled (which I don't, and won't), I would enable the thing. Why the constant nag to turn it on? It seems it must be related to a particular app I have installed, but I haven't been able to pinpoint which one.
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Sounds like Google wants to know where you are. Something with the website not with the Kindle itself if that makes sense. See if you can look through the Google settings through dolphin and find something related to location based services. Also, do you have Facebook or Facebook messenger installed? Those 2 may be requesting it as well...
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Couldn't solve this through Dolphin, which is a shame because it's an awesome browser otherwise. So, uninstalled and went with Opera Mini..haven't had the popup message since.
Braves1995 said:
Couldn't solve this through Dolphin, which is a shame because it's an awesome browser otherwise. So, uninstalled and went with Opera Mini..haven't had the popup message since.
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There's a setting in dolphin itself to turn off location based services. Once you set it to off, it shouldn't ask you again.
fachadick said:
There's a setting in dolphin itself to turn off location based services. Once you set it to off, it shouldn't ask you again.
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It WAS set to off. That is WHY the popup was appearing. The popup was requesting that I turn it on.
Braves1995 said:
It WAS set to off. That is WHY the popup was appearing. The popup was requesting that I turn it on.
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I thought you meant the setting in the Kindle was set to off, not this one in dolphin. If you don't set it to off in dolphin also, dolphin thinks it on, tries to get your location from the Kindle when it hits certain websites, but sees that it's off, and tells you to turn in on in the Kindle. Which is exactly what your describing. Sorry if I misunderstood.
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I thought you meant the setting in the Kindle was set to off, not this one in dolphin. If you don't set it to off in dolphin also, dolphin thinks it on, tries to get your location from the Kindle when it hits certain websites, but sees that it's off, and tells you to turn in on in the Kindle. Which is exactly what your describing. Sorry if I misunderstood.
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This is making me feel completely ignorant, lol. I have it set to off in the Kindle settings as well as within Dolphin Browser. I'm still getting the popup. Could it have something to do with the "Private" mode setting? I have that set to off too, but I tried it with on and it still did it. Basically, I've tried every combination I could think of. I notice in the Kindle setting there is also an on/off switch relating to Location Services and Google. This popup I'm getting usually happens when I go to Google.com, but not always. Sometimes it randomly comes up when I visit other sites. I'm wondering if I have something else installed that could be conflicting and prompting this popup. Here's screenshots of how I currently have it set and still getting the popup:
Braves1995 said:
This is making me feel completely ignorant, lol. I have it set to off in the Kindle settings as well as within Dolphin Browser. I'm still getting the popup. Could it have something to do with the "Private" mode setting? I have that set to off too, but I tried it with on and it still did it. Basically, I've tried every combination I could think of. I notice in the Kindle setting there is also an on/off switch relating to Location Services and Google. This popup I'm getting usually happens when I go to Google.com, but not always. Sometimes it randomly comes up when I visit other sites. I'm wondering if I have something else installed that could be conflicting and prompting this popup. Here's screenshots of how I currently have it set and still getting the popup:
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That might be it. I was getting that message on my wife's kindle before I turned that option off in dolphin, and haven't seen it since. But she doesn't have that Google services option in the kindle settings, just the basic kindle location settings one. She's running a pretty stock unrooted setup. Sorry I couldn't be more help. But if I had to guess, I would think that Google location setting is the culprit.
fachadick said:
That might be it. I was getting that message on my wife's kindle before I turned that option off in dolphin, and haven't seen it since. But she doesn't have that Google services option in the kindle settings, just the basic kindle location settings one. She's running a pretty stock unrooted setup. Sorry I couldn't be more help. But if I had to guess, I would think that Google location setting is the culprit.
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Thank you for helping me out. I'll play around with it a bit more and report back any new results.
Edit: It appears that in Dolphin Browser if you view sites via the desktop version and not the mobile version ('classic' in Google) this popup does not appear, which is just fine with me as I dislike mobile versions of webpages anway. So, all is good: location based services are disabled and no more popups!
Nice, glad you got it working!
I have dolphin set as iPad. Afterall, this is a tablet.
Braves1995 said:
Hi all,
I've been plagued with this issue over the last month or so. I have location based services set to off and get a frequent popup box stating the following:
"Location Based Service Disabled. You need to enable location based services if you want to use the location-based features of this application. Once enabled, Kindle Fire will use Wi-Fi to help determine your location."
This comes up when I have Dolphin Browser open and go to Google, and sporadically at other websites. Anyone know a way to STOP this from coming up?? If I wanted this service enabled (which I don't, and won't), I would enable the thing. Why the constant nag to turn it on? It seems it must be related to a particular app I have installed, but I haven't been able to pinpoint which one.
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Old thread yes, but I just experienced this problem so just in case anyone else has it... Unfortunately I own a Fire 7, 5th generation running 5.3.2.1. Since it can't be rooted, I am trying to limit Amazon's access to the tablet as much as possible. While I was doing so, I was setting up WiFi and went to location based services and pretty much turned off all location services to all Amazon apps and services, including Silk. Opps. What I didn't realize was I had installed other apps which I had yet to fully set up. When I turned off the location for Silk, it blocked Google and other services from receiving my location. I managed to fix the issue, while still having all Amazon location services turned off, by installing google Maps and allowing Google to access my location through there. It worked and i still have all of Amazon blocked.
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Hey all,
For some reason my location in Latitude doesn't update in the background unless I go into the app. I've got it set to update automatically.
Any ideas?
- Brent
BrentNewbury said:
Hey all,
For some reason my location in Latitude doesn't update in the background unless I go into the app. I've got it set to update automatically.
Any ideas?
- Brent
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Mine was working for a few weeks then just stopped. Not sure if it's because I'm usually only running on 2G? (since Froyo 3G is unreliable in the house).
I nearly always have a 3G connection. It can't be that for me, surely.
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Does anyone have any idea why Latitude won't automatically update my location unless I launch the app?
Two things:
Have you checked your latitude security/privacy settings in the menu? You need to have that set to update in the background.
Also, enable the google latitude location history http://www.google.com/latitude/apps and check, i have found that my phone reports in the maps app as if it had not been updating but it in fact had. It just does not refresh the icon in maps when it does that.
If not those two items, then I do not know what.
Thanks snlu178,
I had enabled background updating. I've managed to see my location history now that's it's built up (you don't get to see it right after signing up) and I can see that it's updating in the background. Thanks a lot for the advice.
- Brent
I had the same problem and I just cleared all Maps data from the Applications menu in Settings, and made sure I tapped Join Latitude instead of just enabling the Latitude layer.
G0belet said:
I had the same problem and I just cleared all Maps data from the Applications menu in Settings, and made sure I tapped Join Latitude instead of just enabling the Latitude layer.
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Oh, just tried that, lets see how it goes
Remember it only uses cell tower location while in the background, not true gps satellites. So you won't see your location move in real time, it will only update once every 10 minutes or so.
I have a few android devices and they usually let me go to certain webpages and it asks if you want to share the location and or even the google website that shows the location settings, Neither will show location on my vivid or my wifes but yet on other android devices it shows the locations.
Is there something Im missing?
I do have share location on the browser setting checked and also on location in settings itself with also the settings on the google website but still only shows location unavalible.. but for a brief moment you can see my location there and then disappears in a half a second. Does anyone have a solution ?
Ive tried other browsers and they all do the same thing, But maps and the apps like google earth,google sky,laditude,and all else work perfectly..
Anyone have any input?
So I've rooted my wifes kindle hd, added the google apps (they seem to be working) but Latitude will not work. Every time I click on Latitude it just sits there with a "loading..." message. Any suggestions? This is the one google app she really wants so she can keep track of the kids.
Google Apps - Latitude
JoeHockey said:
So I've rooted my wifes kindle hd, added the google apps (they seem to be working) but Latitude will not work. Every time I click on Latitude it just sits there with a "loading..." message. Any suggestions? This is the one google app she really wants so she can keep track of the kids.
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JoeHockey,
Did you get the google_apps from our server?
The reason I ask is that these apps came directly from Google Development Team through our business.
All the Google Apps are ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Signed and have been tested. If you did not
get these apps through our server, just download the apps through the above link or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069859
These apps have been install on over 400 Kindles without a single problem. We do
offer free support to the XDA Community, so if you get stuck, post a response, we normally
respond within 1 hour.
I downloaded them from one of the "kindle root/google apps" threads on xda but I'm not sure which one at this point, I read a lot of them before performing the root process. Just downloaded the ones you specified, will give them a try as soon as I can. Thanks!
That worked! Now my only question is why the location that is being set by wifi is a mile away from actual location... LOL
Google Apps - Latitude - Location Based Services
JoeHockey said:
That worked! Now my only question is why the location that is being set by wifi is a mile away from actual location... LOL
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JoeHockey,
Good job! To get an accurate location, pull down the Upper Task Bar, pull it down.
Next choose More, then choose "Location-based Services", turn on BOTH
"Enable Location Based Services" and "Location & Google Search". When
these two services are turned on, then open up a web browser like Opera
Mobile or Dolphin, go to http://www.google.com you will be presented
with a popup to "Allow" Google to detect your location, choose "Agree".
Next you will notice your location below the Google Search Window,
this means everything is working properly. Now open up Latitude,
your location should now be within 50 meters.
Best Regards, Chris Bryant (prokennexusa Team Member)
I have been in trouble for a past month. Google maps was holding partial wakelocks on sleep with all settings sync check boxes cleared in Google maps app. But it didn`t help. Settings->Battery always had google maps in here for lower or higher percentage. A day ago I started using better battery stats and noticed networklocationpassivecollector holding wakelock. So i dig into Settings->Locaion access-> Access to my location switch is on. If i switch it to off and then again back to ok dialog "Locations consent" appears when I pressed disagree the problems went away. Dialog message: Allow Google`s location service to collect anonymous location data. Some data may be stored on your device. Collection may occur even when no apps are runing.
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
Open maps and then location settings in that and disable the report from this device option.
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If you disagree in that dialog, then your location discovery will be less accurate, because one of the 2 checkboxes on that screen will not be set.
This appears to be a location settings bug. This also happened to me but with the Facebook app.
vukis said:
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
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I had Google Maps related wakelocks as well. They went away when I turned off everything that had to do with
Location reporting form Google Maps, Account Settings and GPS Settings. I'm not sure which "feature" was
causing it but there is indeed a problem.
Can anybody with this wakelock problem install Greenify app from play store. I had this problem but as soon as I hibernated maps they no longer cause wakelock and GPS and all the location settings are on. Maybe it will help same as me without a need to switch anything off.
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vukis said:
I have been in trouble for a past month. Google maps was holding partial wakelocks on sleep with all settings sync check boxes cleared in Google maps app. But it didn`t help. Settings->Battery always had google maps in here for lower or higher percentage. A day ago I started using better battery stats and noticed networklocationpassivecollector holding wakelock. So i dig into Settings->Locaion access-> Access to my location switch is on. If i switch it to off and then again back to ok dialog "Locations consent" appears when I pressed disagree the problems went away. Dialog message: Allow Google`s location service to collect anonymous location data. Some data may be stored on your device. Collection may occur even when no apps are runing.
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
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Google uses Android phones to keep its Wi-Fi database up to date, saves driving around in a car and getting into trouble for collecting data This is why they state it may use some data even if you aren't using Maps or location services.
Disabling reporting of locations from Maps doesn't change the wake locks, as it isn't the reporting causing most of them.
So Google will use your device to scan for Wi-Fi points, plus enable your GPS if it can to get a location fix to update it's location database of Wi-Fi points. To further confuse things Google seems to have some adaptive way of using devices, perhaps after a time they give individual phones a rest from reporting, or they use more of your phone the more you use more of the service, sort of our cost for getting free location services. This means different people see different battery usage from Google Maps, and the same person will see loads one day then it suddenly stops another.
The best way of stopping it is if you have root access download an application that lets you disable apps, and then disable Google Maps, only turning it on when you need it.
Regards
Phil
PhilipL said:
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Google uses Android phones to keep its Wi-Fi database up to date, saves driving around in a car and getting into trouble for collecting data This is why they state it may use some data even if you aren't using Maps or location services.
Disabling reporting of locations from Maps doesn't change the wake locks, as it isn't the reporting causing most of them.
So Google will use your device to scan for Wi-Fi points, plus enable your GPS if it can to get a location fix to update it's location database of Wi-Fi points. To further confuse things Google seems to have some adaptive way of using devices, perhaps after a time they give individual phones a rest from reporting, or they use more of your phone the more you use more of the service, sort of our cost for getting free location services. This means different people see different battery usage from Google Maps, and the same person will see loads one day then it suddenly stops another.
The best way of stopping it is if you have root access download an application that lets you disable apps, and then disable Google Maps, only turning it on when you need it.
Regards
Phil
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Interesting. Is this an assumption or the fact? If former, could you link up the source please?
What about this app ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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Hey guys. Thanks for great advises I will try auto starts (or greenify), because after disagreeing to Google passive collector Google Now stopped working. But maps wake locks are still away
And yes Google do collects Wi-Fi routers information. I noticed that when I bring my router to other place all connected laptops web based Google maps showed that our current location is my home
I've been trying all day to fake my location, my device is rooted and on fire nexus rom. for some reason it just won't allow me to mock my location, even when I try and enable it in developer options(in which case it just turns mock locations off right away).
anyone have any luck on this? maybe I have to go back to stock firmware?
thanks in advance
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I've been trying all day to fake my location, my device is rooted and on fire nexus rom. for some reason it just won't allow me to mock my location, even when I try and enable it in developer options(in which case it just turns mock locations off right away).
anyone have any luck on this? maybe I have to go back to stock firmware?
thanks in advance
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Mock location stays enabled on CM 12.1 but is largely ineffective as the device lacks a physical GPS chip which causes most apps to cough up a fir ball. I do have an external (OTG/USB) receiver; with that attached Mock locations works fine.
I don't have a device with Fire Nexus installed as present so can not confirm if the above findings are applicable with that rom. Suspect it will work fine with an external receiver.
lukethovito said:
I've been trying all day to fake my location, my device is rooted and on fire nexus rom. for some reason it just won't allow me to mock my location, even when I try and enable it in developer options(in which case it just turns mock locations off right away).
anyone have any luck on this? maybe I have to go back to stock firmware?
thanks in advance
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Ive been playing with this using stock OS 5.1.3 with the Google Play apps added. Ive found some puzzling things. I know the tablet does not have a GPS chip, despite this I used the app 'Fake GPS' to set a fake position. If I use the browser and browse to google maps page, I can see it does indeed pick up the fake location. The app Google Maps also shows the fake position but only if Google Play services is frozen with titanium backup. If Play services is running, Google Maps does not pick up the fake location. Here is my theory: The tablet is designed to work without Google Play services and has its own Wifi based location technique for some reason it can be fooled by adding a GPS signal (possibly because it has the capability of using this interface in the tablets with GPS and LTE).. Google Play services works standalone, possibly because it detects that there is no GPS chip. If you want to spoof Google Play services I guess you must generate a fake WiFi signal, not a fake GPS signal. I don't know whether there are Apps capable of doing this. Otherwise you have to get into the internals of Google Play services which does not sound easy. As you can see its all speculative. If anyone know of a way to spoof Google play services with a Wifi type technique I would love to know. There must be a way to do this for testing.
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Ive been playing with this using stock OS 5.1.3 with the Google Play apps added. Ive found some puzzling things. I know the tablet does not have a GPS chip, despite this I used the app 'Fake GPS' to set a fake position. If I use the browser and browse to google maps page, I can see it does indeed pick up the fake location. The app Google Maps also shows the fake position but only if Google Play services is frozen with titanium backup. If Play services is running, Google Maps does not pick up the fake location. Here is my theory: The tablet is designed to work without Google Play services and has its own Wifi based location technique for some reason it can be fooled by adding a GPS signal (possibly because it has the capability of using this interface in the tablets with GPS and LTE).. Google Play services works standalone, possibly because it detects that there is no GPS chip. If you want to spoof Google Play services I guess you must generate a fake WiFi signal, not a fake GPS signal. I don't know whether there are Apps capable of doing this. Otherwise you have to get into the internals of Google Play services which does not sound easy. As you can see its all speculative. If anyone know of a way to spoof Google play services with a Wifi type technique I would love to know. There must be a way to do this for testing.
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FireOS and Google Play Services both provide location based services via proprietary methods. They are not complementary. You'd be better off with a custom rom that eliminates the ambiguities. Most (if not all) Android location spoofers assume something close to AOSP which is definitely not FireOS.
Davey126 said:
FireOS and Google Play Services both provide location based services via proprietary methods. They are not complementary. You'd be better off with a custom rom that eliminates the ambiguities. Most (if not all) Android location spoofers assume something close to AOSP which is definitely not FireOS.
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I could try to replicate what the OP found with the Fire Nexus ROM but i want to be sure that I can get back to Fire OS 5.1.3. When I used an alternate ROM on my Fire HDX the Amazon Prime Video app no longer worked correctly, in that the video thumbnails disappeared so it was not the ideal solution to escaping from away Fire OS. Can I be sure that I can roll back to 5.1.3 if I try an alternate ROM.
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I could try to replicate what the OP found with the Fire Nexus ROM but i want to be sure that I can get back to Fire OS 5.1.3. When I used an alternate ROM on my Fire HDX the Amazon Prime Video app no longer worked correctly, in that the video thumbnails disappeared so it was not the ideal solution to escaping from away Fire OS. Can I be sure that I can roll back to 5.1.3 if I try an alternate ROM.
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Guess I never fully appreciated the importance of video thumbnails. There is a path back as 5th gen devices support FireOS reload via stock recovery menu (HDX lacks this essential capability).