If you think the current on-screen buttons is already the best solution then perhaps you wont agree with me. But anyways I along with alot of other people dont like to accidentally press the home button AND the multi-tasking button due to its disruptive nature especially now that in 4.2 it throws you out of the app basically. Mapping the home button to a long press really isnt a solution its annoying to do it all the time and is simply not intuitive.
My solution is something thats not done so far but I really think its possible.
A center hardware home button. Double press acts as a multi-tasking button.
2 tiny OLED screens on the sides of the home button so we can have adaptive navigation buttons alongside a hardware home button.
One of the OLED screens shows the back button and the other one dynamically shows the menu button whenever needed. When not used the OLED screen wont consume any power at all unlike LCD.
And ofcourse this also keeps open the possibility to customize and map whatever buttons you want to like if someone wants to have a single click task switcher they can still have it.
Another huge advantage of having a hardware home button is the ease of waking up the device which is under appreciated a bit I feel. Anyways thats my 2 cents.
Having a home button would be a problem to create a uniform Google experience, since every manufacturer would have their own button design. Also, physical buttons has a life expectancy of approximately 2 years (just try pressing an iPhone 4 button).
Also, Galaxy S3 has a home button. Choice.
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Pie seems like a better solution or the many gesture navigation's out there
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elzafir said:
Having a home button would be a problem to create a uniform Google experience, since every manufacturer would have their own button design. Also, physical buttons has a life expectancy of approximately 2 years (just try pressing an iPhone 4 button).
Also, Galaxy S3 has a home button. Choice.
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And yet we dont have a unified solution. HTC and samsung the 2 biggest players continue to do their own thing. Another point to note is that on-screen buttons dont allow for their to be a "gap" between the screen and navigation buttons unless ofcourse you want to waste massive amounts of screen estate. Having more gap reduces accidental presses.
But S3 has static capacitive buttons so you lose out on the freedom that the solution I proposed offers. The menu button certainly needs to be dynamic so you know when its needed and when its not.
I was really excited to have phone with on screen buttons...until I had a phone with on screen buttons. I definitely noticed the loss of screen real estate coming from the HOX to the Nexus 4. Expanded desktop is nice, but not very convenient. I really like the style Samsung has adapted. My friend has a Galaxy S3 and I love being able to turn on the display with the home button. Of course, on screen buttons are mappable, which is nice.
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What i do...
Use on screen buttons when navigating and when I'm in an app for a long time i use the expanded desktop with PA.. after I'm done I go back to normal.
I would rather have an option to swipe to the left to hide the soft buttons.
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Pie seems like a better solution or the many gesture navigation's out there
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Agreed, pie ftw!!!!
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Hi guys, do you have the same feeling as mine? O4x's soft keys are too close to the bottom of the main screen. As a result, sometimes during text input, home button is unintentionally hit.
Is there any solution to this?
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flanker711 said:
Hi guys, do you have the same feeling as mine? O4x's soft keys are too close to the bottom of the main screen. As a result, sometimes during text input, home button is unintentionally hit.
Is there any solution to this?
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Happens to me all the time. I have no solution this far. Maybe one could make a mod to have the on-screen buttons as Google intended and disable the hardware soft keys, but I don't have any experience in modding.
Not sure about the mechanism of the hotkeys. If they're touch panel like (or even they're just part of the main capacitive touch screen), the best solution IMO is to reduce the effective touch area of each button. Just make them slightly larger than the led icons.
But this is not what CM can do I think. It should be some driver code change from LG...
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i use swiftkey and increase the key height and it is so much easy to key now without hitting home when i use the spacebar. Another alternative is to setup the direction arrows underneath the spacebar but i feel the previous approach is suitable for me not to hit home key 99.9% all the time :cyclops:
Happen quite a lot at first,
After a mth with this phone. Seldom happen anymore.
Will get used to it
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well, u could ask lg to make their new phones bigger, so theres more space for ur fingers :silly:
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i use swiftkey and increase the key height and it is so much easy to key now without hitting home when i use the spacebar. Another alternative is to setup the direction arrows underneath the spacebar but i feel the previous approach is suitable for me not to hit home key 99.9% all the time :cyclops:
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Nice solution, thanks!!!
Any one know of away to take screen shots with out power button. I'm running asylum cm10 v6 and have no power button all apps I have found do not work with the gnote. So I'm looking for ether a app or a way to remap buttons to do it with one button like holding the back button or something like that.
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I'm sure you know it already or maybe the custom ROM won't support it but did you try putting the side of your palm and sweeping it to the left? or maybe holding the button on the s pen and touch the screen with it?
If you already knew that and that the pen would not work on a custom rom, peace!
The palm trick only works on TW roms so , I guess you will have to use power button
I guess there are many apps in playstore to take screenshots
well i could not get any apps to work so i just figured out how to remap the power button to the home button so i lost the home button but have my power button back is a good trade for me anyways
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.geeksoft.screenshot&hl=en I had a similar problem before and this was what worked for me.
Remap worked fine for me no need for an app
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Apparently so....
http://www.androidcentral.com/use-logo-htc-one-extra-button-custom-kernel#comment-586561
Yeah, this was discovered a while back in some coding. Not really sure I'll have a use for it, but it's good to know it's there.
The answer is: Not Really.
In the other thread they showed a pic of the digitizer used on the HTC One. There is no "touch-sensitive" area under the HTC logo. The kernel hack discussed where the HTC logo *is* turned into a button mentions that it is only responsive at the very top of the logo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194315&page=13
Although this is nice work, I think the HTC logo as a button is a lost cause.
Am I the only one that likes the two buttons? I like minimal designs and I have no problem long pressing or double taping a button to get what I need. I think the two buttons looks nicer than having a dedicated menu/multitasking button.
I have been on HTC for sometime and all of them had the long press for multitasking so I might just be used to this kind of setup already.
I'd be fine with the two button layout if it weren't for how they handle the menu "button" for apps (like this one!) that haven't adopted Androids latest design guides for how the menu function should be handled... I really hate that big black bar on the bottom of an otherwise beautiful screen!
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i like the two button layout....took a little getting used to but....
I'm used to the buttons now, but that would have been cool to have the HTC Logo as an actual full functioning button.
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I'd be fine with the two button layout if it weren't for how they handle the menu "button" for apps (like this one!) that haven't adopted Androids latest design guides for how the menu function should be handled... I really hate that big black bar on the bottom of an otherwise beautiful screen!
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if you root/unlock and install either ViperROM or the Xposed Mod pack, you can get rid of the black bar and instead long press back button.
that's what I did, I too hated that black menu bar at the bottom!
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Is there any kind mod or apk to change home button to show recent apps by long pressing?
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Hello!
Is there any kind mod or apk to change home button to show recent apps by long pressing?
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If you are rooted the back button long hold menu
Is long-pressing home very much preferable to the default way of doing this (double-tapping home)?
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Is long-pressing home very much preferable to the default way of doing this (double-tapping home)?
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I my self would definitely prefer a long press rather than having to double tap. Sometimes I miss the second two and just go home but would have no problems with a long press.
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Any solution to this? I'd like to make long-press home as the multi-tasking view and disable double-press home entirely (don't care about google now).
On the new 4.2.2 long press is now the menu button, double tap home is the recent apps like before and press, hold, and swipe up is the Google now
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On the new 4.2.2 long press is now the menu button, double tap home is the recent apps like before and press, hold, and swipe up is the Google now
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Yea I just saw this when I flashed to a 4.2.2 ROM. The thing I want to disable is the double-tap home button as it makes the single-press home a bit laggy since it has to wait to see if the second button press of home is registered or not. I would rather the phone just instantly goes home when I press home which requires the double-tap home function to be disabled which is why I'd like to rebind the task-switcher to something else like long-press home.
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Yea I just saw this when I flashed to a 4.2.2 ROM. The thing I want to disable is the double-tap home button as it makes the single-press home a bit laggy since it has to wait to see if the second button press of home is registered or not. I would rather the phone just instantly goes home when I press home which requires the double-tap home function to be disabled which is why I'd like to rebind the task-switcher to something else like long-press home.
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It doesn't make it laggy, as it doesn't wait for the second tap. You can still do the second tap once it gets to the homescreen. If you think it's slow, you should see the Samsung Galaxy phones with their REAL homebutton lag
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It doesn't make it laggy, as it doesn't wait for the second tap. You can still do the second tap once it gets to the homescreen. If you think it's slow, you should see the Samsung Galaxy phones with their REAL homebutton lag
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It does... this is exactly what I'm relating it to. On my S3 it had double-press home to go to the S-Voice app. Once I disabled that feature, the home button would be instant on the S3. Otherwise, it would be "waiting" for the 2nd press. It's the same thing with the HTC One... at least it feels like it.
And no, I can't still do the 2nd tap when I get to the home screen...
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It does... this is exactly what I'm relating it to. On my S3 it had double-press home to go to the S-Voice app. Once I disabled that feature, the home button would be instant on the S3. Otherwise, it would be "waiting" for the 2nd press. It's the same thing with the HTC One... at least it feels like it.
And no, I can't still do the 2nd tap when I get to the home screen...
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I can some people store more electrical charge in their fingers, guess you are lacking that 'zap'
In all seriousness, I don't have any lag and you can disable the double tap by editing the framework.jar
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I can some people store more electrical charge in their fingers, guess you are lacking that 'zap'
In all seriousness, I don't have any lag and you can disable the double tap by editing the framework.jar
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Lol... well I feel the vibration feedback of the 2nd tap but it just acts as me pressing the home screen again, not part of the 2nd press from the 1st. I've tried timing it very closely but I still can't get it to go home and then bring up the task switcher. I can just get it to go home, then go home again, or get the task switcher.
Disabling it is only half the battle... I still want to bind the task-switcher to long press but I lack the know-how to do it lol. Thought there would be something built into modaco's framework to do it but I don't see that level of button customization there yet.
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Is there any kind mod or apk to change home button to show recent apps by long pressing?
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Go to the playstore, search "swipe home button" 99 cents, you can swipe up on the HTC button for home, swine up and back down for multitask. More included
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chc31 said:
Go to the playstore, search "swipe home button" 99 cents, you can swipe up on the HTC button for home, swine up and back down for multitask. More included
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how? it does not work for me ..
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how? it does not work for me ..
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Well you have to do it by placing your finger in the HTC logo on the bottom, and slide it up on the screen. Did you do that correctly perhaps?
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Well you have to do it by placing your finger in the HTC logo on the bottom, and slide it up on the screen. Did you do that correctly perhaps?
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Yes it does not work!
Hello all,
Ok, so I've gone to the end of my wits here. So long story short, I've been using a Galaxy Nexus for a long time and have grown accustomed to stock android and the navbar buttons.
As a result, I've tried to get my One to run with a nav-bar, problem is so far, only Paranoid android seems to let me do that.
* Any stock GPE ROM by default doesn't have it
* I've tried editing build.prop in GPE: "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" but that doesn't do anything. Reading up, I think that only changes how the menu buttons works, rather than the Navbar?
* Root programs like virtual Navbars cover up the bottom of the screen.
* I've tried Xposed scripts, which also don't work.
Have I missed anything? While the PA roms more ore less work, the speakers are noticeably softer and poorer in sound quality... i don't have a working IR blaster and GPE roms work much smoother... I'd even settle with a HTC sense rom as long as I can get the Navbar working.
Thanks
Just curious as to the point of having physical keys and on-screen keys at the same time. Seems like a waste of screen real estate, and redundant as well
Use "ultimate dynamic navbar". A quick search will lead you to the devs thread which offers a free version with a decent amount of customization and a paid version with many more features. You're welcome
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Just curious as to the point of having physical keys and on-screen keys at the same time. Seems like a waste of screen real estate, and redundant as well
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From memory, on the gpe, we don't have an option to hide the three dot menu, and it takes up the bottom section of the screen. If that's the case I'd rather it be the nav bar which serves more purpose.
Regarding dynamic navbar, that's the one that I mention that cuts into the bottom of the screen (sometimes it covers buttons if I leave it on permanently), but seeing that I'm running out of options, I'm going to force myself to get used to the hiding navbar. Might be a nice middle ground.
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What about Pie Controls? Try LMT Launcher, it doesn't waste space, is highly customizable and is perfect for HTC One, because there is no capacitive button below the screen in the middle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150