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[Q] How to do a Nandroid backup on a stock (but rooted) kernel?

Hi there
I am currently on a newly installed JVU that was pre-rooted by [Ramad], so I am actually on a stock kernel. I intend to keep it this way without any custom kernel or rom.
Now I would like to make a Nandroid backup of my phone but I can't do it with my default recovery menu that is without CWM.
Question is, is there any way for me to install CWM on top of the stock kernel so that I can do a backup from recovery? I do not wish to install a custom kernel just for access to CWM. Or is there an app that I can use to simply do a Nandroid backup without needing CWM at all?
PS: I tried using ROM Manager to do a Nandroid, but it would simply reboot my phone to recovery.

Anyone please?

It's my understanding that you need to flash a kernel that has CWM built into it.
CF-Root and Semaphore are the most common ones for this.

did you try the CWM Recovery App, couldn't remember where it is on xda but a search would help

Fairly new to all of this myself but I'm not really sure you need to do a Nandroid back up if you don't plan to run anything other than the stock ROM & kernel.
This type of backup is really for those installing custom roms & kernels etc.
It is my understanding that to run CWM you needed to be rooted (could be wrong). CF-Root is basically a rooted stock kernel so if you wish to do a Nandroid back flash CF-Root that way you can have CWM.
If you are rooted you can use Rom Manager to install CWM. Then boot into recovery (power button, volume up & home button) and do everything within CWM.
Hope that helps.

Black Rose said:
It's my understanding that you need to flash a kernel that has CWM built into it.
CF-Root and Semaphore are the most common ones for this.
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Hi
I do know the popular ones but I wish to remain at stock as I will be passing the phone to my mum soon.

wooptarik said:
did you try the CWM Recovery App, couldn't remember where it is on xda but a search would help
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I did a quick search but none of the hits is actually what I'm looking for?

scubadude said:
Fairly new to all of this myself but I'm not really sure you need to do a Nandroid back up if you don't plan to run anything other than the stock ROM & kernel.
This type of backup is really for those installing custom roms & kernels etc.
It is my understanding that to run CWM you needed to be rooted (could be wrong). CF-Root is basically a rooted stock kernel so if you wish to do a Nandroid back flash CF-Root that way you can have CWM.
If you are rooted you can use Rom Manager to install CWM. Then boot into recovery (power button, volume up & home button) and do everything within CWM.
Hope that helps.
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Actually I am already rooted but I am on a stock kernel without CWM. As for Rom Manager, I have mentioned that it doesn't work. Seems like it requires a CWM enabled kernel for it to work.
I want to do a Nandroid backup now as I will be handing over my phone to my mum in afew months time. And I am pretty sure I'll make changes to the phone in the meantime. So I would like to have a Nandroid that I can restore to before I pass it over.
As for CF-root, I'll check it out. Thanks for the suggestion.

Same problem here- rooted with stock, and won't go on installing a new ROM before being able to save nand backup...
I think the problem of ROM manager not installing recovery is related to stock recovery version that needs downgrading from 3e to 2e- I reckon to have seen some thread about it here.
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Flash CF-Root.

[Q] KERNEL Backup/Restore.

Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.

before you do anything get a nandroid backup and save that original nandroid backup.
Nandroid Backups are a full ROM backup, that means:
Radios
ROMs
Kernels
User Data
Trying to claim a warranty after you violate the terms and services isn't the most honest thing to but if you intent to cheat the warranty system that just hold on to your backup. A nandroid backs up everything

Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.

subtil123 said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for your reply. For the warranty I am okay with you regarding the honesty.
About the Nandroid ROM backup, i read somewhere that full backup must be done but it backup all except the Kernel !
I am little bit lost :
1/ The KERNEL Backup can be done with Nandroid backup ?
2/ Can we make Nandroid backup with stock ROM & stock Kernel (fresh TAB) ?
3/ The CWM is it a Kernel ?
Thanks a lot.
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CWM stands for clockwordmod, its a custom recovery. You need a custom recovery before you can start changing things about your tablet. It is Not a kernel. Think of a car. A kernel is like eh engine, the recovery is like a toolbox. Its more complicated but thats the idea. The stock recovery is too limited, which is why we have custom ones
When you do a nandroid back up it backs up everything. When you do a nandroid back it backs up the kernel as well as the ROM all of your settings and app data. All in one.
If you want a stock nandroid Do it first thing after you have a custom recovery. A nandroid is saved in the clockwordmod folder. Then save that file somewhere safe. Flash drive computer t whatever.
Hope this helps

subtil123 said:
Hello,
I need to know before install Overcome & CWM if it's possible to backup my stock KERNEL. Currently i have 2.6.36.3 kernel.
I think that is better to restore with the original kernel if need to use tha warranty one day ?
So is it possible to backup or download the stock KERNEL.
Thanks a lot for your help.
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Here is the Flashable zip for backup your Old recovery and kernel
First, You need root
From your stock recovery, Flash backupkernelrecovery.zip.
Approximately 30 seconds, backup process will make a folder "mybackups" in your SD card,
Reboot as normal, and Open "My Files" and see folder "mybackups"..
You'll find 2 file recovery.img(your stock recovery) and boot.img (stock kernel)
For Restore your recovery.img
download overcome cwm from alterbridge86 thread, unzip the file and replace recovery.img from that files with yours..zip again and flash from recovery, reboot and you got your old stock recovery..
Warning: Only restore Stock recovery after nandroid Restore done..with same firmware
Tested on my P7300 and works..

Hello All
Thanks a lot for your help.
I'm now on overcome 2.2.0 with Motley Kernel.
I just done a Nandroid Backup before. I also found on Net a file to restore all, Stock rom & Kernel.
Thanks again.

{HOWTO-beta} Backup and Restore in ICS - Revert to Gingerbread from ICS

So there has been a lot of discussion in other threads about backing up,
and restoring ICS ROMS. I had to find out what is possible and what not.
I wrote down the steps for reference,please if you find that there are corrections or additions, post!
Here's the deal:
It can be done, you just have to flash the Abysnote 4.0+ kernel everytime you want to do a backup or restore. This is also the way to safely revert to a Gingerbread Nandroid backup, after you're done playing with ICS.
There's a few caveats, if you do a backup of ICS and you forget to reflash
the ICS kernel, you will be trying to boot ICS with an Abyss kernel...
Something I never did, but it might end you up in the, well... abyss.
Also, I found myself first scared, then confused with the occurence of
an LP5 repack from Chainfire, that is admitted to be a high risk release.
Then you see LP5 ROM's popping up, so you think, might they be using
that LP5 repack and am I inherently in danger? Seems not the case.
One can flash the ROM's by the Chef's containing LP5 kernels, but from what I learned, the base is OK anyway. *please correct me here if I'm wrong.
Here's the scenario's, tested once by me on accounts 1 and 3. 2 is beta but hearsay says it works. Anyway, it most probably won't hardbrick your device if it doesn't You'd still have recovery mode from holding down home-volume up-power until white samsung logo appears.
1- Howto create Nandroid backup from a working ICS rom that you have.
So, if on ICS, and want to make an ICS nandroid (i.e.progressive installation/configuration backups), you can :
- reboot to recovery mode
- flash abyss 4.0+ kernel
- reboot to recovery after the kernel flash is done, dont boot the Android phone
- you are now in a different looking recovery mode, don't panic, its almost the same
- do your nandroid thing
- after the nandroid has finished, reflash the kernel you had in your ICS ROM
- after that, you can reboot to recovery again, or select reboot system.
(I always reboot system after I reboot once more to recovery)
2- Howto restore ICS Nandroid backup from a working ICS rom that you have.
So, if on ICS, and want to restore an ICS nandroid (i.e.progressive installation/configuration backups), you can :
- reboot to recovery mode
- flash abyss 4.0+ kernel
- reboot to recovery after the kernel flash is done, dont boot the Android phone
- you are now in a different looking recovery mode, don't panic, its almost the same
- go to restore menu, select the ICS nandroid that you want to restore
- **not tested by me, but there should be no need to reflash the ICS kernel as it has been overwritten by the restore**
- after the nandroid restore has finished, you can reboot to recovery to reboot system
(I always reboot system after I reboot once more to recovery)
3- Howto revert to Gingerbread Nandroid backup from a working ICS rom that you have. (Safely going back to GingerBread without much trouble)
reboot to recovery mode
- flash abyss 4.0+ kernel
- reboot to recovery after the kernel flash is done, dont boot the Android phone
- you are now in a different looking recovery mode, don't panic, its almost the same
- do a fullwipe/factory reset
- restore your GB nandroid using backup/restore menus in CWM
- after the nandroid restore has finished, do a factory reset/full wipe again
- after that, you can reboot to recovery again, or select reboot system.
(I always reboot system after I reboot once more to recovery)

Hi ... I got a hint from stunner thread that backups work on lp5 kernel ... I've done one without any apparent issues but don't know whether it would properly restore if required? ... If yes, it would avoid the need for this multiple flashing of kernels .... You can also try and confirm ...cheers.envy
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envyofindia said:
Hi ... I got a hint from stunner thread that backups work on lp5 kernel ... I've done one without any apparent issues but don't know whether it would properly restore if required? ... If yes, it would avoid the need for this multiple flashing of kernels .... You can also try and confirm ...cheers.envy
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+1 I'd like to know this as well. I made a direct nandroid in stunner recovery without flashing abyss.. Hope it won't be a problem.
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Well.. if you guys already made the backup with the LP5 kernel,
could you take the ""risk" and try a restore ? You would the first the really
confirm it, and the thread would grow in information worth.
I guess the worst that can happen is that you have to use ODIN to restore a stock
ROM and then restore your ICS backup using Abyss.
More likely is that you can just flash abyss if it doesn't work, then flashback ICS backup. Hope you will try. Im back on GB.

lucid said:
Well.. if you guys already made the backup with the LP5 kernel,
could you take the ""risk" and try a restore ? You would the first the really
confirm it, and the thread would grow in information worth.
I guess the worst that can happen is that you have to use ODIN to restore a stock
ROM and then restore your ICS backup using Abyss.
More likely is that you can just flash abyss if it doesn't work, then flashback ICS backup. Hope you will try. Im back on GB.
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Sorry for hacking in
I too wrote the instructions how to shift to GB rom from ICS rom !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24535533&postcount=2
Thanks for you detailed instructions on various scenarios!! Good one!
Cheers! Enjoy your Note!!

Sorry but I'm a bit confused. I'm on Stunner, and would like to do a nandroid backup, and continue using stunner as is.
Steps:
1. Get into recovery and flash latest abyss, then reboot to redpill recovery, then perform nandroid.
2. How do I revert stunner as I had it before, since kernel has changed? The only file I have is the stunner rom package itself. No separate kernel to flash. Should I just restore the newly made nandroid to get back to the way I had it pre-abyss? Wouldn't the nandroid backup have stunner rom+abyss kernel, which I don't want?
Thanks!

Tested by me - the ICS kernel has not been overwritten by the restore
octavian90 said:
Sorry but I'm a bit confused. I'm on Stunner, and would like to do a nandroid backup, and continue using stunner as is.
Steps:
1. Get into recovery and flash latest abyss, then reboot to redpill recovery, then perform nandroid.
2. How do I revert stunner as I had it before, since kernel has changed? The only file I have is the stunner rom package itself. No separate kernel to flash. Should I just restore the newly made nandroid to get back to the way I had it pre-abyss? Wouldn't the nandroid backup have stunner rom+abyss kernel, which I don't want?
Thanks!
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First of all thanks to "lucid" for the thread!
I am on ICS Stunner 1.4.19. I followed the instructions above and did backup and restore as described.
I have tested to restore the nandroid backup and reboot without reflashing the kernel. Well, that didn't work. My Note stuck on Samsung logo. Fortunately I was prepared for it beforehand. I had previously extracted the kernel from my Stunner. So I rebooted into recovery again and flashed the ICS kernel (3.0.15-I9220ZCLP5-CL295568).
Peace!

[Q] Just wanted to know what will happen if....

Hi All,
This might look like a silly question but i am really curious to know.
If i make a nandroid backup with a speedmod k3-13 kernel, then i flash hydracore 5.4. i go to cwm and choose to restore the nandroid backup i made with speedmod, what will happen?
does the nandroid restore ... put the speedmod back in?
sorry for the example but all i wanted to ask was
is it ok to do a nandroid restore made a particular kernel to be restore on a different one ?

nokiamodeln91 said:
Hi All,
This might look like a silly question but i am really curious to know.
If i make a nandroid backup with a speedmod k3-13 kernel, then i flash hydracore 5.4. i go to cwm and choose to restore the nandroid backup i made with speedmod, what will happen?
does the nandroid restore ... put the speedmod back in?
sorry for the example but all i wanted to ask was
is it ok to do a nandroid restore made a particular kernel to be restore on a different one ?
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I haven't tested it on Note but I have tried it on my ealier phones (X10i, Optimus 2X , Desire) and it always worked fine.
Restoring backup will change the kernel too (the one included in backup).

so ideally it should just change the kernel that's included in the backup and restore normally right ?

nokiamodeln91 said:
so ideally it should just change the kernel that's included in the backup and restore normally right ?
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Yes, ideally it will. basically it's like flashing a different rom, I have seen few developers distributing their roms as nandroid backup.

From my personal experience there could be issues if different version of CWM are used for bkup and restore.
I always do as follows and this way works for me with no issues:
1) bkup with any kernel
2) restore with speedmode or abyss 4.2

so if I backup with philz kernel and restore with speedmod won't that be diff version of cwm?

Can I restore ICS nandroid over JB rom?

Hi
I want to return my Note to stock. When I first bought it I rooted it and made a nandroid of the stock ICS rom that was on it.
Since then I have installed Alliance Rom on Jellybean. Can I just restore the stock ICS nandroid straight over the JB rom or will this brick my phone? I've read that there's something about ICS stock kernels that can cause bricks so I'm a bit nervous about how to go about it.
I have already downloaded the two files from the unroot thread to remove superuser and binaries, do I just flash these after restoring the ICS nandroid? Also, how do I get back the stock recovery?
Sorry for such basic questions but I'm new to the Note and it's a bit different to flashing things on the One X which I came from.
Thanks x

yes.. you can restore the stock rom nandroid.. but i am not sure as Alliance JB LSZ use TWRP recovery and the backup you made may be using CWM.. so its better to install a CWM kernel on the rom... Like philz and then restore the rom,, for stock recovery you will need to install stock kernel..
but why go into so much trouble ... just install a stock ICS rom using pc odin.. (no wipes after installing stock ICS rom).. make all the wipes while on a safe kernel

nokiamodeln91 said:
yes.. you can restore the stock rom nandroid.. but i am not sure as Alliance JB LSZ use TWRP recovery and the backup you made may be using CWM.. so its better to install a CWM kernel on the rom... Like philz and then restore the rom,, for stock recovery you will need to install stock kernel..
but why go into so much trouble ... just install a stock ICS rom using pc odin.. (no wipes after installing stock ICS rom).. make all the wipes while on a safe kernel
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Thank you very much for explaining, that's a big help
The Odin way does sound a bit easier, I'll look into it. Thanks for explaining about the ICS wiping problem.
Much appreciated