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so i never wanted to root until i tasted what the stock froyo can do.
and it's been over a month or so and i am wondering if i should root or not.
mainly came to xda-developers for firmware updates and just some general information about phones never really read into about rooting and whatnots.
i really want a smooth experience with android and while 2.2 is indeed faster than 2.1, i'm still not quite satisfied.
so i'm wondering if rooting will boost speed performances. like smoother scroll, opening apps faster and hopefully a better music player. the custom themes are nice but performance and functionality is my thing and priority.
or should i be waiting for 3.0?
In all honesty root your nexus. I had mine since February and only rooted my nexus two weeks ago.
I had the same doubts of what would rooting give me over eclair and then froyo but after rooting and putting on a custom rom i am kicking myself for not doing it sooner.
My phone is rooted with a locked bootloader so i don't have to worry about that unlock padlock when powering up my phone. I get too use rooted apps and best of all the different roms. I was going to wait for google with each update new features being added, but it takes too long. With the custom roms they have features that should have been in the stock release like waking up the phone with the trackball and other trackball colors beside white, different customizations to your liking and speed increases.
Today it is even easier to root your nexus one then when it first came out. Since putting a new rom on my phone it feels like i have a new phone all over again without the cost and contract obligations.
Give it a try and see if you like it if not you can always unroot and go back to the stock rom. But keep in mind before you root and start tinkering with your phone read up as much as you can beforehand so you are sure you know what you are doing.
Best of luck.
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Well Im no noob to rooting.. rooted the Samsung moment , og evo, and evo lte.. some reasons for rooting were battery life, theming , faster.. well the HTC one seems fast, the theme is great, and battery life decent..
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I do it for for stuff like % battery, changing cpu/scheduler settings for better battery, debloating, ect. So you are the only one who can decide.
If you had to ask, you don't need to.
I don't say that as a pejorative. You're asking because you don't have a thing you need to do that requires root. So you don't need to.
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I usually run stock for at least a few months but the HTC One I rooted maybe after a week. The dot dot dot drives me nuts since HTC decided a menu key is not needed. The menu key is needed and it's still nice to have even on ICS compliant apps. There is room for it, I love this phone except for no menu key.
It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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Yeah I just went right the rooting process after having the phone for two days, simply for WiFi access. Also the custom ROM doesn't hurt (running Viper right more and will wait for CM10.1 to catch up). Will try the custom kernel to get the swipe to turn on/off, real soon.
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So since we don't have s-off, do I need to root the phone just like I did before using joeys gui flash?
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thlinx said:
So since we don't have s-off, do I need to root the phone just like I did before using joeys gui flash?
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Never used that application as it seems like it really doesn't offer anything outside of what GooManager and/or ROM Manager already offer. You may not have to root the phone, but you'll likely need to unlock the device with no S-OFF. The rooting process on this device isn't that difficult, and the videos on the forum from QBKing and wwJosh are solid and walk you through the process. All you really have to do is follow some simple instructions and use copy and paste.
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Main 2 reasons I root my phone's:
1)tethering, hardly ever use it so it's not worth paying the sprint fee, but when u need it u are glad u have it
2)ad blocking apps
As far as flashing kernals and hboots I usually don't fool with it. I find a nice stable customized Rom built off stock and stick with it usually.
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Super Tommy said:
It's always worth it to gain root access. Wifi Tetethering alone will justify it. And to be honest, rooting is usually not good enough. It's in your interest to flash a custom ROM; there is a lot to be gained. There is a reason we're on Android and not iOS or Windows Phone and the benefits we gain from rooting is one of them. (This is not a jab at other platforms, I hate everything equally)
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I would have to disagree with that; I actually prefer to stick with stock if at all possible. Sometimes there is a ROM out there that has such better performance all around to justify a switch (mostly Carbon-style ROMs that are minimalist), but I take satisfaction in running stock.
Rooting is also useful if you want to enable various features like GPS toggling/Airplane mode toggles for tools such as Tasker or Power Toggles, or to freeze/remove bloat.
I just got my HTC one three days ago. Came from sensation which was good for me thanks to all the devs, roms and kernels available.
Now, this phone is a monster as it is. Is it really worth rooting and flashing roms? Stock seems to be pretty stable, and again this beast flies nonetheless.
Any input is appreciated.
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Stock is really good now, unless you want to play really demanding games like NFSMW or Modern Combat 4 etc etc. HTC has set the CPU AND GPU to throttle at 40c which is ridiculously low. So if you hit these temps regularly, games would suddenly start stuttering and lagging till it goes below 40c. With a custom kernel you can tweak this, so personally that's the biggest advantage I have of going that route
Haha this is XDA man... Of course everyone is gonna say its worth it.
Personally I thought the same, stock sense is stable, smooth, and fast.
However I'm a bit of a flashaholic so I got bored within a couple weeks. And development is starting to get very very interesting. There's a ton of fantastic devs and nearly every major aosp ROM has popped up. Most of them are very stable and are getting better and better.
Its really up to you but my vote is to hold out a while, maybe until official 4.2.2 and if you get bored like I did, flash away!
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Stock is very fast. I like being rooted however so I just flash ARHD when I want to have the stock look n feel
AOSP development is great, not quite DD for me yet but it's really close
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I'd stay stock. I have to admit I rooted mine and have regretted it ever since. Just doesn't feel the same even when I return to stock. The only thing good on custom roms is the settings toggles at the top of the notification bar, and it doesn't look like 4.2.2 Roms are going to have it anymore barring trickdroid.
Custom kernels introduce new issues like touch buttons not working properly and bugs and instability.
My phone was the most stable, fast and bug free when it was stock and I enjoyed it more when it was stock too. Can't go more than a day now without flashing something else to try and iron out each bug that comes up.
My vote is stay stock and enjoy your phone before it's too late.
As for cm and aosp, I can't see how they will survive much longer as stock Google loses a LOT of functionality and has awful stock apps including an awful camera app. Phones have moved past them now in my opinion and I can't see how they'll survive much longer unless they start getting access to the proper camera apps that come built into the phones.
not worth
In my opinion its not worth to root this phone. This is actually my first Android phone without root.
The stock ROM is smooth and great except enoying gallery app with Facebook photos but I can easly switch to another app without rooting.
I managed to run unrooted for three days, then I unlocked the bootloader, flashed a few roms (currently on InsertCoin and loving it) and just yesterday I S-OFF'd. Worth it.
If you don't use apps which need SU (AdFree, TitaniumBackup, RootExplorer,...) and you are happy with the stock ROM, it wouldn't be worth it.
PS: Still waiting for my black HTC One and I'm quite sure that rooting it is the first thing I do. (after charging and shortly exploring the phone)
I wasn't happy with stock at all, too stuttery and even basic games were very lagy (came from i9300 sgs3), rooted/flashed cm10.1 within a day of owning my one and haven't had ANY issues at all s-off'd using root explorer and terminal emulator just then in under a minute. Love being free and smooth lol
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Dont root it
wildcontigo said:
I just got my HTC one three days ago. Came from sensation which was good for me thanks to all the devs, roms and kernels available.
Now, this phone is a monster as it is. Is it really worth rooting and flashing roms? Stock seems to be pretty stable, and again this beast flies nonetheless.
Any input is appreciated.
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I think right now it's not worth it the phone is very fast and you will not need root especially if you have another rooted device.
I had the same question before.
DEVICES THAT I OWN : NEXUS 7 [ROOTED][STOCK ROM 4.2.2][MOTLEY KERNELC TO 1.6 GHZ]
XPERIA Z C6602 [NOT ROOTED]
fish droid said:
I think right now it's not worth it the phone is very fast and you will not need root especially if you have another rooted device.
I had the same question before.
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You can never have too many rooted devices, period.
Thanks for all the opinions. For the first time with android phones (and it's been few) I think I'm going to refrain from rooting for a while at least
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wildcontigo said:
Thanks for all the opinions. For the first time with android phones (and it's been few) I think I'm going to refrain from rooting for a while at least
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I would recommend getting s-off, unlocked and then flash Mikes stock odexed rooted ROM. You will have all the abilities of root (like backups and ad blockers) and then the speed and stability of stock
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Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
noahdev said:
Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
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It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
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It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
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In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
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In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
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Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
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Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
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Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
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Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
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Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
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Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
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Too each his own bro
I fully agree to each his own but if you do not see the advantages and personalization rooti g gives you then most likelyyou are the type tthat is satisfied with what you get. For me T9 calling alone is worth it, adjusting scree colors, raising the sound level,showing actual dBm signal strength, removal of all apps I don't want that were preloaded, darker ui experience. Now if you never try this then you wont miss it but its not lime you can't root it then unroot if you are not happy.
Bottom line updates will come the same day here whether rooted or not and these updates can also come with goodies...
Edit: Also lets be honest in a forum of 100.000's of members and rooter you will find maybe a few hundred or so that may have an issue and most of them I guarantee you was because of them not following directions properly. Thats what makes for rooting nightmares. Remember even non rooters from time to time have to restore their phones for one crazy reason or another. Now you have to restore back to 1 year ago when you first got the phone...SMH
I am having some trouble rooting and puting a custom recovery on my new Nexus 4, I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed the custom recovery through fastboot, but its not sticking, I don't know whats wrong.
UNless youir getting deadlocks letting your phone charge overnight, I would stay on stock.
CM is great, but there are just always broken things and bugs that will eventaully piss you off when you want to do something.
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Hi all,
What's gone wrong?
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Absolutely nothing, except for the very slight inconvenience of having to re-root or re-install TWRP after doing an Android operating system OTA update. Not only that, but I now have several "root only" apps that I needed, I have full access to the Linux command line programs which I use, and I am learning a lot about the Android OS lower level stuff. For me anyway, I really have no desire to install custom ROMS, as stock rooted Android does everything I want it to do.
There are stock based custom roms with CM type customization's... Again unless you have tried a stock customized rom with advancements you should not be judging. Also you don't have to use each cutsomization you can actually leave it stock and only use 1 or 2 custom items. Check out PSX 4.1 bone stock with a handful of customizations
There is really only one thing that annoys me about stock and that is the oversized Nav bottons. I just wished they made them smaller or gave us the otion to change the size. This is available on custom Roms and gives you more screen real-estate which definitley makes a difference.
That is one thing that keeps pulling me to custom Roms. I was running AOKP which seemed to run pretty good. I restored my phone back to stock because I thought I was having an issue with the notification light but then saw it just needed an app to make it work the way I was expecting it to.
So I have my phone rooted on stock 4.3 right now and I just wish I can make those Nav bars smaller! There are definitley cool features on some of the custom Roms though and it most certaintly can enhance your experience.
If ur not using the toolkit, then you should be.. If ur using and still manage to screw things, you should leave ur phone stock... The toolkits are already noob proof..
Connect phone to PC
Unlock boot loader
Root
Install recovery
Install ROM....
Its all 1 click each or some toolkits does it all in 1 click...
Rooted and running Paranoid Android + franco.kernel
my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
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my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
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Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
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Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
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no offense taken thats what i get for trying to root it while at work dealing with an Exchange upgrade
You can't really screw up a nexus device. It's not like Samsung where you hard flash the wrong version for the wrong phone and end up with a paperweight. If you mess up with nexus you can always return back
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My last nightmare with rooting was from htc desire hd, lots of bullcrap to be done, lots of s**t pre requisite..goldcard, emmc etc., ugh gives me headaches for days :/
Just use wugfresh toolkit and its a breeze
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I've had nexus' since the nexus one, and a whole lot of other android phones. I've rooted every single one of them, tried out various custom roms and mods etc. However the Nexus 5 is probably the first android phone I will own that I won't root. Its just so damn good from the factory that I don't think i'm going to bother. I'm curious to know if anyone else is in the same boat?
Im feeling the same way after a week of use. It seems so complete. But... let's be honest seeing all the cool stuff that devs are gonna come out with for kit Kat will probably draw us back in. I want to see what the paranoid team comes up with
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Mischaseb said:
I've had nexus' since the nexus one, and a whole lot of other android phones. I've rooted every single one of them, tried out various custom roms and mods etc. However the Nexus 5 is probably the first android phone I will own that I won't root. Its just so damn good from the factory that I don't think i'm going to bother. I'm curious to know if anyone else is in the same boat?
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The decision whether to root my phone or not lies in if I can get additional functionality when rooting.
For example on a rooted phone, an app like Cerberus is capable of some pretty nifty stuff like uninstall prevention even on factory reset. So you can still track your phone even if your phone is reset. (not flashed over though)
That being said, I probably won't root my phone for awhile because I agree with you that the phone is awesome enough stock.
There are applications that require root, so yes, I will always root. There are literally zero drawbacks, and advantages, so I say why not. But no, I usually always install custom ROM's and mods, which I won't be doing anymore.
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I've had nexus' since the nexus one, and a whole lot of other android phones. I've rooted every single one of them, tried out various custom roms and mods etc. However the Nexus 5 is probably the first android phone I will own that I won't root. Its just so damn good from the factory that I don't think i'm going to bother. I'm curious to know if anyone else is in the same boat?
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Same here, flash addict! I haven't yet rooted and am trying not to so I don't waste countless hours anymore trying to gain milliseconds of speed, etc. This thing is so smooth out of the box I haven't caved in yet!
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Having root doesn't necessarily mean having a custom ROM... I just manually root the stock ROM.
I use a few apps that require root, but I need the stability of the stock ROM. Since I'm still stock I can flash any system updates that come along.
I was stock rooted on my Nexus 4 for months too, custom ROMs are nice and I applaud the developers who work hard on building them, but I don't need the extra bells and whistles, especially when they occasionally cause instability.
First thing I do with every Nexus is unlock the boot loader, flash a custom recovery and flash supersu... Manually, of course. Toolkits are no fun.
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I unlocked my boot loader before I booted up for the first time. It's done then, ready for any future mods. I'm on stock ROM and recovery, unrooted.
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I just unlocked the bootloader so far because I don't want to wipe my phone if I will decide to install a custom ROM and root. But so far I don't plan to do so. The N5 and KK just serve me well so far and it could be the first phone where I don't have to worry whether some features work or if the dev broke something. No offence, the devs here so some great work but you are never safe from instabilities - even on Nexus devices.
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I always unlock and root for the reasons already said where some apps require the elevated privileges. I've always gone custom ROM and custom kernel on all my last Android phones including my Nexus 4 last until I decided that I don't actually need the majority of things being done in a custom ROM and therefore went back to stock on the N4 and happily used it for the last 6 months or so.
I'm definitely staying stock this time round as apart from the quick settings toggles and quiet hours there's nothing I can call a benefit to me as this phone is a beast and so smooth. All personal opinions of course.
As I understand it, if you root and keep the stock ROM you can't accept OTA updates? Is this right?
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As I understand it, if you root and keep the stock ROM you can't accept OTA updates? Is this right?
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If you root your phone, running stock ROM, you still will get OTA updates...
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I rooted my samsung android device (had too samsung software is so bad). i rooted/customs my nexus 7 2012. i dont feel the need since the nexus 7 2013 and now the nexus 5.
Maybe one day to try ubuntu or something like that. but i'm perfectly happy without root for now.
Oh i will - the N5 still needs some improvements for camera and battery life. And i also don't wanna miss full control in ES file explorer.
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Rooted mine for stuff like titanium backup! its still stock. But i think i'll flash CM 11 sometime not too very soon =)
Rooted for adaway, as long as the boot image and recovery is stock OTA updates still work. i see no reason not to unlock bootloaders as soon as you receive your devices to avoid data loss later.
I root because its the only way to install adfree from the f-droid repo. It also allows me to use more features in apps like betterbatterystats and I can flash kernels easily using Franco's app.
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I've rooted mostly for helium, otherwise its stock
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Yeah, I feel the same thing. I'm waiting till all things become a bit more stable for kitkat, but as OP says, the N5 feels pretty complete out of the box. Yet, I miss some things that I used on my rooted N4, which was stock with some Xposed modules.
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I'm not root right now but there are 2 features I'm missing :
1- better DPI (everything is so huge!)
2- Block stupid pub by changing hosts file
I will probably root it later just for these 2...
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Rooting a Nexus is almost manadatory, it is a developer phone by nature