Hi all!
Just a quick question about mircast, I've seen the XZ supports miracast which I am happy about. When I heard about the Nexus 4 having it and what it did I was really looking forward to the 'mirroring' feature most of all, I didn't get a N4 but got a Note 2 at the time....this doesn't have miracast built in but has Samsung's Allcast feature, which is kinda the same but requires a Allcast dongle too.
Now my questions are with the XZ when I get it on Friday (woop!), I would like to use miracast 'mirroring' feature with my TV (hopefully) has anyone got any experience with miracast at all?
I know I will probably need to buy a mircast dongle for it to work as my TV Pananasonic TX-L42ET5B doesn't support it, so do Panasonic do a miracast dongle at all as I can't find one. I also have a Sony BDV-EF200 BD 2.1 Home Cinema System and this doesn't support miracast either, so any idea's of a dongle again??
Thanks in advance as I know I might be asking a lot here.
The Netgear PTV3000 works with all TV's (HDMI output). Make sure to update it to the latest firmware version and you can use it to Miracast just fine.
Ambroos said:
The Netgear PTV3000 works with all TV's (HDMI output). Make sure to update it to the latest firmware version and you can use it to Miracast just fine.
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Oh great, thanks for that I will look into it, I know there must be something out there I just didn't know what!
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So it appears the PTV3000 is not available to buy in the UK, hopefully will be soon!
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Are Miracast and Mirrorlink the same (ie just Sony giving Miracast its own name)?
I expect the 2013 Bravia TVs will support this natively.
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Are Miracast and Mirrorlink the same (ie just Sony giving Miracast its own name)?
I expect the 2013 Bravia TVs will support this natively.
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Not heard of mirrorlink, isn't it a different?
Well that's what I am wondering as the Xperia Z has MirrorLink and no mention of Miracast! The Nexus 4 has Miracast.
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Well that's what I am wondering as the Xperia Z has MirrorLink and no mention of Miracast! The Nexus 4 has Miracast.
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Hmm that is true...
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Do they sell an Hdmi cable that is compatible with this tab so I can connect it to my tv?
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Last I read, the Nexus 7 didn't have MHL capabilities.
I believe this function was going to be added through the use of Nexus Q & Google TV systems. However that's officially on the back burner.
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Have a look at the video in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874757
I am not sure if u can stream via hdmi fom nexus to TV, but if it is possible this is the cable u would need.
HDMI to Micro Type D
Not mhl compatible, but maybe a future dock will have that.
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the future dock would still require the tablet to be mhl capable, therefore no, there is no and will be no way to directly plug the tablet into a television, what there is hope for is streaming via a nexus q device.
Hey folks, I'm new here. Have been lurking a bit.
I've been bugging Nexus support staff about features/upcoming features.. as I'd expected, they're pretty hush-hush
One guy even fibbed to me, saying that a USB OTG cable and peripherals such as keyboard, mouse, usb drives.. will not work with the Nexus, even if I unlock it. Maybe he just didn't know any better.
Anyhow, I love this little device, but the lack of tv-out in the form of display mirroring is flat-out pissing me off.
I'm not experienced with coding for android devices by any means, but I did have an idea. (If Nvidia doesn't certify Nexus 7 for Miracast sometime in the near future.. it IS a tegra 3 device, so I'm hoping they do. It may be the solution to our problem.)
...This idea could be too fantastic to be a realistic possibility, but I thought it was worth a share..
What if an apk could "trick" the protocol for displaying video via wifi on droid devices?
What if the receiver could detect the incoming signal as a video file, and the app on the device could trick the nexus (or other non-MHL droid device) into treating the screen display as a video file?
Since the latency between displaying video on the Nexus and displaying it on a television via wifi isn't bad (from what I know), it COULD be practical enough for gaming, if it were done correctly.
TL;DR, the app would screen-capture the display, and send it to a receiver as if it were a compatible video file.
Am I just speaking fantasy-talk? Is this feasible? Thoughts?
The tegra3 has wifi streaming similar to apples airplay. The receivers just aren't out yet. Reading up that tmobiles SGIII will have a premium pack with some kind of aircard device that streams video over wifi for $99.
I think we are also waiting on Dlink. You can already do this with a rasberryPi for a good DYI solution.
I'm waiting for someone to make a box and a roku channel that captures streams on the network.
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nemrel said:
I believe this function was going to be added through the use of Nexus Q & Google TV systems. However that's officially on the back burner.
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Right...with the N7 as a controller/interface to drive the Q.
nexus 7 =199
nexus q 299
Guys, have a look at this : http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
Seems great but the only problem I see is that it requires to install a custom rom to use it.
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Guys, have a look at this : http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
Seems great but the only problem I see is that it requires to install a custom rom to use it.
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You can be onto something here....any Dev wanna check this out?
Quick question, where do you even buy a Rasberry Pi?
Cl8rs said:
Quick question, where do you even buy a Rasberry Pi?
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RS Components or Farnell/Element14
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costipl said:
RS Components or Farnell/Element14
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If stay away from RS as they have had huge problems shipping product, any of the Farnell companies have been ok.
I've got two of them, one originally for the Android Transporter..
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krelvinaz said:
If stay away from RS as they have had huge problems shipping product, any of the Farnell companies have been ok.
I've got two of them, one originally for the Android Transporter..
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yep and Raspberry Pi are now shipped with RAM upgraded to 512MB (from 256MB), same price ($35).
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/15/ra...d-to-512mb-from-256mb-same-tiny-35-price-tag/
what about this ? it's a fake ??
http://docteur-gsm.com/es/asus-goog...l-microusb-hdmi-para-asus-google-nexus-7.html
Januka said:
what about this ? it's a fake ??
http://docteur-gsm.com/es/asus-goog...l-microusb-hdmi-para-asus-google-nexus-7.html
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Very interesting,
would be nice if anyone could report whether it's working or not.
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what about this ? it's a fake ??
http://docteur-gsm.com/es/asus-goog...l-microusb-hdmi-para-asus-google-nexus-7.html
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Someone really needs to test this !
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Someone really needs to test this !
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The german translation is honest: you need an MHL-Device to use this adapter. As we know the nexus 7 isn't configured with one. It won't work.
On the new 4.2 'what's new' website from android it says
" Share what’s on your phone on the big screen.
Android 4.2 allows devices to enable wireless display. You can share movies, YouTube videos, and anything that’s on your screen on an HDTV. Just connect a wireless display adapter to any HDMI-enabled TV to mirror what’s on your screen quickly and easily."
Source: www.android.com/whatsnew
This makes me curious. Searched already for that, but it looks like only devices for notebooks including an Intel wireless chip are supported right now.
But I'm looking forward to project my nexus 10 screen wireless to my TV.
Does anybody know which devices are when available? And more important which devices are compatible with the nexus 10?
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On the new 4.2 'what's new' website from android it says
" Share what’s on your phone on the big screen.
Android 4.2 allows devices to enable wireless display. You can share movies, YouTube videos, and anything that’s on your screen on an HDTV. Just connect a wireless display adapter to any HDMI-enabled TV to mirror what’s on your screen quickly and easily."
Source: www.android.com/whatsnew
This makes me curious. Searched already for that, but it looks like only devices for notebooks including an Intel wireless chip are supported right now.
But I'm looking forward to project my nexus 10 screen wireless to my TV.
Does anybody know which devices are when available? And more important which devices are compatible with the nexus 10?
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This is called Miracast. Essentially, international standard of the Mac's Airplay, or Intel's WiDi. Though I have heard its not quite ready yet on Nexus 10.
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This is called Miracast. Essentially, international standard of the Mac's Airplay, or Intel's WiDi. Though I have heard its not quite ready yet on Nexus 10.
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I'm pretty sure Miracast is going to be integrated into WiDi. Also, the guy I talked to from Google said the Nexus 10 will ship with Miracast enabled.
But what I'm really wondering is, can I use a WiFi enabled device, or something plugged into a router (My PC) as a receiver, without buying a $70 box? If it's just a WiFi protocol, why shouldn't this work?
I have yet to see this confirmed for the Nexus 10. You say a guy from Google says it has it, but other people are reporting that they can't find it on their devices. Is it a software thing, or is the wireless dongle required? I'd love to learn more about it. Would be great for presentations and stuff.
So far this supports Miracast but Ive read the reviews on Amazon and it seems the device isnt quite ready.
Soon as I get my N10 Im heading out to get this and post back to see if it does indeed work and if N10 does have Miracast enabled.
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/hometheater/media-players/PTV3000.aspx
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I'm pretty sure Miracast is going to be integrated into WiDi. Also, the guy I talked to from Google said the Nexus 10 will ship with Miracast enabled.
But what I'm really wondering is, can I use a WiFi enabled device, or something plugged into a router (My PC) as a receiver, without buying a $70 box? If it's just a WiFi protocol, why shouldn't this work?
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My understanding is that miracast is a point to point wifi, no router involved. My thoughts is that they do this for bandwidth issues.
Has anyone actually managed to make the Nexus 4 Wireless Display option work? Not much info around the web on it. Mainly people failing miserably.
I have an LG TV (47LM6610) which (apparently) supports "Screen Share" and it detects the Nexus 4, sends it an invite, I accept on the Nexus, the TV shows the Nexus as a connected device but the Nexus still shows nothing in its Wireless Display devices list.
Tried everything! Have emailed LG support and they were pretty dismissive and simply confirmed that it "should work". Sent an enquiry to Google support but not holding my breath.
Anyone had any luck with this or is it yet another half baked feature?
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Depends whether it's half baked on the TV or the phone
What happens often with these new standards is nobody talks to each other so they all implement it slightly differently.
Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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Neither sad nor hilarious, just a classical case of the technological forerunner. Happened to pretty much every nontrivial technology. Some (like bluetooth profiles) did not overcome their problems till this day.
Regarding LG, their TV branch does not necessary even talk to the smartphone branch, much less to google.
Hopefully we'll see some proper miracast sinks sooner rather than later - at least there's demonstration videos showing up lately, that should be a good sign?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL14GaqzIUw
Latency seems quite good from what I can tell. I also like form factor!
Now the dropped frames on the other hand.. I guess the source is to blame? Let's see if the Nexus 4 does a better job at that
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Hilarious (or sad?) that one of the Nexus 4's major features gets released without a single compatible device?! Even when using two devices from the same manufacturer.
I'd love to hear a success story but I highly doubt there is one out there.
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Obviously one product needs to be released before the other, especially one sided puts pressure to get implemented on the other side. Also its a software technology so that it's made by lg has no relevance whatsoever.
As far as I remember, Bluetooth existed on handsets long before anything used it. also TV software is a new thing, can't expect it to launch with that much implementation with phones when synergy between phones and TVs really has only been around for around two years or so.
Besides, when miracast was announced it was clear it was not backward compatible.
I've ordered the Netgear PTV3000 even that still have some bugs but I think they will update the firmware to connect with Nexus 4. There is a YouTube demonstrate it can work with Sony Phone that is Miracast support.
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Netgear PTV3000 does not yet support Nexus 4 yet.
And that's my point, not a single device supports the Nexus 4 it seems.
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Netgear PTV3000 does not yet support Nexus 4 yet.
And that's my point, not a single device supports the Nexus 4 it seems.
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It is actually the other way round: Netgear PTV3000 is not known to properly support Miracast yet.
Here is a list of certified Miracast receivers:
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/search_products.php?search=1&advanced=1&lang=en&filter_company_id=&filter_category_id=&filter_subcategory=&filter_cid=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=69&x=56&y=12
and Netgear PTV3000 is nowhere to be seen. The same for LG TV sets.
Netgear themselves says:
*PTV3000 supports pre-standard compliant Miracast™ wireless enabled display devices.
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I also have an lg TV and yea it doesn't work . sees it but no . lol I guess its not miracast ? I haven't seen that word in the instructions anywhere
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But LG TVs do mention WiFi Screen Share and WiDi. Its unlikely that they would mention Miracast as its not a very marketing friendly.
I suppose its for LG to clarify...
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WiDi is Intel's standard, it supports Miracast as of version 3.5.
If it doesn't say Miracast, then assume it's not compatible.
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WiDi is Intel's standard, it supports Miracast as of version 3.5.
If it doesn't say Miracast, then assume it's not compatible.
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Yes, WiDi v3.5 was announced just recently in last september.
Which means current LG TVs are likely to sport older WiDi versions which are not miracast compatible and won't connect to Nexus4 (or any other Miracast device for that matter).
Dying to find out
This is probably my most desired feature on this handset having tried for years to create software and services that would do it on all my other phones.
My flatmate has an HTC MediaLink HD, and from what I understand from the protocols and how that works, using wifi direct etc and seeing the screen mirroring work on his One X, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work with the N4, but I guess only time will tell - yep, still waiting for my "order confirmation" to be turned into a "tracking email"
As soon as I get it and tried it out I'll post back.
Use iMediaShare!
I have the Samsung Allshare Wireless Hub. It does not work with the Nexus 4. It pairs, but will not display audio/video at all.
Isn't it funny how the 3 new "standards" the N4 is pushing aren't really that universal?
Devices claiming Miracast devices don't work with the N4, yet
The Nokia Qi Chargers don't work with the Nexus 4
Slimport isn't as ubiquitous as MHL
That does DLNA not Miracast.
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Use iMediaShare!
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DLNA is merely a "file fetcher". A network drive interface.
Don't get me wrong that is extremely useful. I download torrents on my phone and play them on my TV all day. But you know what? I'd actually buy most movies and shows I watch if I could mirror Google TV to my TV. No, I am not gonna buy a box for that, it defeats the purpose to me. I'd buy blu-rays if I wanted to use extra hookups.
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I have the Samsung Allshare Wireless Hub. It does not work with the Nexus 4. It pairs, but will not display audio/video at all.
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damn, I was hoping it would work. I have the allshare hub for my Note 10.1.
Well I've been searching about MHL support on the Moto X and I discovered that actually he doesnt support this king of cable, to stream the content to a TV via HDMI. But I also heard that its a SOFTWARE limitation, not a hardware one... So in theory we could activate this function.
Anyone knows a way or a custom ROM that supports it?
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Well I've been searching about MHL support on the Moto X and I discovered that actually he doesnt support this king of cable, to stream the content to a TV via HDMI. But I also heard that its a SOFTWARE limitation, not a hardware one... So in theory we could activate this function.
Anyone knows a way or a custom ROM that supports it?
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Seems it is a HW limitation, the needed chip is not there, to me anyway. But there is no workaround, there are post confirming this.
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Seems it is a HW limitation, the needed chip is not there, to me anyway. But there is no workaround, there are post confirming this.
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It is a workaround indeed - Miracast. It even has advantages comparing to the HDMI - no physical connections. It is a bit more expensive but it worth the price.
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It is a workaround indeed - Miracast. It even has advantages comparing to the HDMI - no physical connections. It is a bit more expensive but it worth the price.
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are there miracast dongles that exist that are complete garbage? for my needs, Chromecast does everything I need it to. I haven't had a need for HDMI since its release.
I have problem that my lg TV finds the moto x and I accept the connection on the phone but connection fails. I'm disappointed in the moto x, although its a great phone I won't buy another.
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are there miracast dongles that exist that are complete garbage? for my needs, Chromecast does everything I need it to. I haven't had a need for HDMI since its release.
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It depends of your needs. I must admit that I don't possess the Chromecast, I just borrowed it once from my friend. But as far as I could learnt, it doesn't do screen mirroring, it can only transfer certain video. And you can't transmit audio separately, the screen aimed for video must have its own audio production too (loudspeakers). You can't use plain monitor with the Chromecast if you want to have audio. Or I missed something?
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It is a workaround indeed - Miracast. It even has advantages comparing to the HDMI - no physical connections. It is a bit more expensive but it worth the price.
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Well I know its an option, but It doesnt fit me since I wanna play games like Modern Combat 5 using it. Wireless connections has too lag so its not suitable for it...
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Well I know its an option, but It doesnt fit me since I wanna play games like Modern Combat 5 using it. Wireless connections has too lag so its not suitable for it...
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So how about an android TV stick with a decent/comparable GPU. Play your games from that...?
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So how about an android TV stick with a decent/comparable GPU. Play your games from that...?
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How about $$$$$ ? hahaha
Hi,
I have buy a chromecast ultra at the airport yesterday. I have try to connect it to my TV without success.
At the first boot, I have a black screen on my TV and my android phone with google home apps saying that their is an update for my Chromecast ultra.
Now, if I make a factory reset or press the reset button I get this :
- On the TV, I can see a blue screen with Chromecast Ultra and a yellow circle. After a few seconds, the chromecast seems reboot, the screen become black and the LED on the chromecast is blinking in white.
- I can configure the chromecast using google home apps or the chrome extension. After the configuration, the screen on the TV is always black and the LED on the chromecast ultra is white and fix.
You can see all of this on the video below :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9YcqL1nFiDaXzBBOWRGR3A2clk
I have only one HDMI port on the TV and I don't know the manufacturer. Devices like SOny PS3 work on my TV using HDMI. I have disconnect and reconnect all but it doesn't change anything.
Google say that some old TV are not compatible with their device. Can you help me to solve the problem ?
Thanks for your help.
Is your TV a 4K TV, the ultra is for 4K TVs?
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My TV isn't 4k. It's an old TV.
I have buy the Ultra version because the store only have this version.
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Is your TV a 4K TV, the ultra is for 4K TVs?
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Yes it may be meant for 4K TVs but it should still display on lower resolutions as well.
My suggestion is to bring the unit back to where you bought it and let them test it on one of their monitors and see if they get screen.
It is very possible you just got a lemon unit.
I can't bring back the unit. I have buy it in an airport during holiday.
I test it on the new TV of a friend, I get a picture. I hope that the device can work on old TV or on TV that is not smart.
Is there a solution to make the ChromeCast Ultra compatible with my old TV ? Is there a configuration file that I can edit or an adaptator that I can put between the ChromeCast and my TV ?
Thanks,
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I can't bring back the unit. I have buy it in an airport during holiday.
I test it on the new TV of a friend, I get a picture. I hope that the device can work on old TV or on TV that is not smart.
Is there a solution to make the ChromeCast Ultra compatible with my old TV ? Is there a configuration file that I can edit or an adaptator that I can put between the ChromeCast and my TV ?
Thanks,
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The age of the TV doesn't matter...If it has an HDMI input then it should display in whatever resolution the TV supports.
Since it works on other TVs the only thing left is that the Input to the TV is bad.
Is there another input you can try it on?
Bad news, your TV is too old since it works on your friends TV.
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Asphyx said:
Is there another input you can try it on?
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No. I have only 1 HDMI port on the TV. The other input is SCART.
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No. I have only 1 HDMI port on the TV. The other input is SCART.
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So this is a French TV? (which could explain your problem.)
What Airport did you buy this Chromecast?
I'm going to bet that you have a SECAM TV but the CCast may only supports NTSC or PAL.
If you bought this in the US it is possible it won't support a SECAM TV but the UK version might since PAL and SECAM are very similar.
It's a combination of things working against you here...Yes the TV is a bit old and not very forgiving in what signals it will accept. coupled with the fact that France, and the Former Soviet countries were the only ones who used the SECAM standard where most of Europe uses PAL and the rest of the world uses NTSC.
The cheapest solution is probably to buy a new TV as there is no guarantee that any CCast will work with that one.
You could probably buy a PAL adapter and convert the signal but that is likely to cost as much as a new TV will.
Thanks for your answer.
I don't know if my TV is Secam or Pal. I only use it with my Sony PS3.
I have buy the ChromeCast in Australia.
villegente said:
Thanks for your answer.
I don't know if my TV is Secam or Pal. I only use it with my Sony PS3.
I have buy the ChromeCast in Australia.
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If it has SCART it is probably only SECAM....
The Aussie CCast is definitely PAL compatible.
I'm guessing your TV was one of the tweener models many people got stuck with in the time where SD was being phased out and Digital standards were not yet set.
Hello,
I have the same issue here and it seems that the chromecast is outputting at 1080p when ur TVs are only going up to 480p
Not nice to mention this risk on google side