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Okay so, since I'm sort of new, I wanted to ask a few questions:
1. Is it possible to root xperia x8 with manufacturing date 11w48? At least at 95% chance. I'm a bit scared of the bricking part...
2. If it is possible, what kind of "ROM" (if I understood correctly) should I get?
3. If I get hard bricked/soft bricked what's the chance my phone will be still usable.
That's about it. Please don't rage at me for "OMG USE SEARCH BUTTON" type of thing.
I have tried doing it but no results found. Just threads and posts of people updating their.. ROMs I gues? Correct me if I typed anything wrong there.
But yeah, help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Jetboard said:
Okay so, since I'm sort of new, I wanted to ask a few questions:
1. Is it possible to root xperia x8 with manufacturing date 11w48? At least at 95% chance. I'm a bit scared of the bricking part...
2. If it is possible, what kind of "ROM" (if I understood correctly) should I get?
3. If I get hard bricked/soft bricked what's the chance my phone will be still usable.
That's about it. Please don't rage at me for "OMG USE SEARCH BUTTON" type of thing.
I have tried doing it but no results found. Just threads and posts of people updating their.. ROMs I gues? Correct me if I typed anything wrong there.
But yeah, help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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1. You can safely root your x8 regardless of when it is manufactured, you will not brick it
2. You have 11w48 so it is very risky to unlock your bootloader, i suggest you flash ROMS that is for stock
3. If you get soft bricked you can flash the stock firmware back using flashtool or SEUS, if it is a hard brick, you need to go to the nearest Service center or use a JTAG
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Thanks a whole bunch. I thought I cannot root because of my manufacturer date. But what is a flash ROM tho?
Jetboard said:
Thanks a whole bunch. I thought I cannot root because of my manufacturer date. But what is a flash ROM tho?
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you can root your phone. but you can't unlock bl.
when you root your phone, you cam install cwm recovery. simply dl a rom for stock kernel and go to recovery and install(flash) the rom. remember to check the instructions first.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
All what I found until today was that if I cannot unlock BL I cannot install CWM recovery.
Maybe it is related to model - mine is Sony Xperia J. Y2012.
There is no fastboot available.
Am I wrong, can I have CWM, nandroid backup etc on stock ROM as only such one I may flash ?
F308 said:
All what I found until today was that if I cannot unlock BL I cannot install CWM recovery.
Maybe it is related to model - mine is Sony Xperia J. Y2012.
There is no fastboot available.
Am I wrong, can I have CWM, nandroid backup etc on stock ROM as only such one I may flash ?
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this is for x8. not sure how it works on J. but yeah we don't havt fastboot either. but we can install cwm even with a locked bl. again that's for se x8.
edit: my advice is go to your phone's subforum. you'll get your answers there.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Thank you. I understand that lot of things is device dependent but thought there are non-breakable rules, like gravity,
and what is possible to do under certain circumstances was one of them.
Need walk through XDA forum once more, maybe there is a hope.
F308 said:
Thank you. I understand that lot of things is device dependent but thought there are non-breakable rules, like gravity,
and what is possible to do under certain circumstances was one of them.
Need walk through XDA forum once more, maybe there is a hope.
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there probably are a few unbreakable rules, but not being familiar with your device i can't guarantee that it's safe or it would work.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Despite lot of reading I still am missing knowledge.
Question is:
What is fastboot ?
I found more than one definition of it and compiled into my own.
1.
Of course fastboot.exe is Windows binary (part of flashtool pack) which does certain type of work.
This is not what we are interested in.
2.
I concluded that:
- fastboot is one of modes into what android device can wake up. Just like linux can boot in different ways or Windows into single mode.
- this feature is encoded into boot.img, it is not separate android application.
- boot.img will work only with related kernel.img. They are like love and marriage (which is like horse and carriage - Bundy's).
- Sony sometimes disables stock boot.img to boot into this mode then without replacing boot .img it is impossible.
More comments ?
Fastboot is protocol used to update the flash filesystem in Android devices from a host over USB. It allows flashing of unsigned partition images.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Okay, I got one more last question. Is this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906195&nocache=1 okay to use for rooting? I'm still trying to find the LATEST safe ones =/ I wonder if this one is okay.
Um, I tried that one it didn't work. It said some stuff are missing, then it exited randomly etc.. Can someone give me a link or a short/long guide which I can use that's latest? I do have some X8 drivers in a .zip file but no idea how to install them. Thanks in advance.
Jetboard said:
Okay, I got one more last question. Is this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906195&nocache=1 okay to use for rooting? I'm still trying to find the LATEST safe ones =/ I wonder if this one is good.
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I rooted mine with this
Means its safe
Sent from my X8
Having few issues with the SuperOneClick thing... It sometimes randomly exits, tells me that some stuff are missing etc. Any help? =/
Hello all,
I'm sorry to interrupt you all, but this is rather important!
I tried to root my girlfriends Velocity 4G which she got with her contract with A1 (austrian carrier).
I already flashed a One S and knew of the complications a root for HTC could bring.
So I tried to get everything together before flashing and then I did it...
Got the bootloader unlocked, installed TWRP and flashed sun_dreams rom.
Don't worry, I wiped all clean and think I did it the right way (already flashed 4 other phones, but samsungs').
But I seem to have missed something as I got in a neverending bootanimation (white background with green htc logo).
I know, that you sometimes have to wait a few minutes, but after about 5 minutes or so, I thought I was stuck on boot loop.
So I rebooted, flashed it again and rebooted and nothing changed.
I then read about the boot.img... So I extracted the boot.img and did a full wipe, then installed it, after that the rom and then (just to be safe) three times again the boot.img.
Rebooted and now I got the reboot loop (white background with green logo, then black, then white background again and so on)
I tried everything and as I was about to give up, read about the final solution: the RUU or PH39IMG.zip.
Now the problem is: I cant get either of them to work. At all. When trying to flash the RUU (with bootloader relocked), the programm says: "ERROR 170: No device connected".
I read about some other people having the same problem, so I tried the solution given to them: go to the first screen, then to your temp data, extract the rom.zip, rename it and flash that one, via putting it on the external sd and booting into bootloader.
Didn't work either: Wrong CID. Same for all RUUs I could find even closely related to my phone.
As I couldn't find the real correct RUU, I tried to cheat and use the goldcard to overgo the cid-problem.
Because I couldn't boot up the Velocity 4G I tried to make one with my own Galaxy S2, which worked.
Seems to be the wrong way, since it's the wrong CID anyways, when trying to install the PH39IMG (still all RUUs say ERROR 170).
I might need to mention I didn't do the S-OFF thing, as I didn#t want to mess with the hardware... Is that necessary for my problem to getting fixed?
Maybe I just need the one correct RUU for my model, but I can't find it anywhere!
please help me somebody, as I feel very guilty because of wrecking my girlfriends phone! :crying:
any help is appreciated!!!
greetings
deweini said:
Hello all,
I'm sorry to interrupt you all, but this is rather important!
I tried to root my girlfriends Velocity 4G which she got with her contract with A1 (austrian carrier).
I already flashed a One S and knew of the complications a root for HTC could bring.
So I tried to get everything together before flashing and then I did it...
Got the bootloader unlocked, installed TWRP and flashed sun_dreams rom.
Don't worry, I wiped all clean and think I did it the right way (already flashed 4 other phones, but samsungs').
But I seem to have missed something as I got in a neverending bootanimation (white background with green htc logo).
I know, that you sometimes have to wait a few minutes, but after about 5 minutes or so, I thought I was stuck on boot loop.
So I rebooted, flashed it again and rebooted and nothing changed.
I then read about the boot.img... So I extracted the boot.img and did a full wipe, then installed it, after that the rom and then (just to be safe) three times again the boot.img.
Rebooted and now I got the reboot loop (white background with green logo, then black, then white background again and so on)
I tried everything and as I was about to give up, read about the final solution: the RUU or PH39IMG.zip.
Now the problem is: I cant get either of them to work. At all. When trying to flash the RUU (with bootloader relocked), the programm says: "ERROR 170: No device connected".
I read about some other people having the same problem, so I tried the solution given to them: go to the first screen, then to your temp data, extract the rom.zip, rename it and flash that one, via putting it on the external sd and booting into bootloader.
Didn't work either: Wrong CID. Same for all RUUs I could find even closely related to my phone.
As I couldn't find the real correct RUU, I tried to cheat and use the goldcard to overgo the cid-problem.
Because I couldn't boot up the Velocity 4G I tried to make one with my own Galaxy S2, which worked.
Seems to be the wrong way, since it's the wrong CID anyways, when trying to install the PH39IMG (still all RUUs say ERROR 170).
I might need to mention I didn't do the S-OFF thing, as I didn#t want to mess with the hardware... Is that necessary for my problem to getting fixed?
Maybe I just need the one correct RUU for my model, but I can't find it anywhere!
please help me somebody, as I feel very guilty because of wrecking my girlfriends phone! :crying:
any help is appreciated!!!
greetings
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OK... Vodafone is still on gingerbread...
Soooo... You need a gingerbread ROM... And a gingerbread boot.img... Then get it to boot...
After that I would s-off, super cid, get to ICS hboot... Then flash the ROM of your choice
rignfool said:
OK... Vodafone is still on gingerbread...
Soooo... You need a gingerbread ROM... And a gingerbread boot.img... Then get it to boot...
After that I would s-off, super cid, get to ICS hboot... Then flash the ROM of your choice
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So far so good... but where do I get it from?
I have this one:
RUU_HOLIDAY_SENSE3_5_Vodafone_DE_2.38.162.1_Radio_3.02.4740.09_34.20.701040.19_release_241518_signed
But this one won't work either...
What complicates the search, is that this phone goes by so many different names (vivid, velocity, holiday, raider, etc...)
Should I post a getvar all?
Concerning your further steps: I would be very happy to get it to run at all, maybe then think of reflashing something.
I don't know if I manage that s-off thing and I don't want to hard brick it and give it the final punch...
anyways, thanks for the fast response!
Can you get the ph39img from it?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
rignfool said:
Can you get the ph39img from it?
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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I already did that with all the RUUs I found, but none worked...
EDIT: so I tried a solution offered by another poster in another forum which said to install CM10 on a clean wipe.
did that and it booted in the cm boot screen and loads the "first install wizard"... well, at least to the language selection screen, then it freezes and reboots again.
but at least we bought us some time at the start.
deweini said:
I already did that with all the RUUs I found, but none worked...
EDIT: so I tried a solution offered by another poster in another forum which said to install CM10 on a clean wipe.
did that and it booted in the cm boot screen and loads the "first install wizard"... well, at least to the language selection screen, then it freezes and reboots again.
but at least we bought us some time at the start.
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Its because of a wrong hboot...
It will happen with all of the ICS+ ROMs...
I wish you hadn't relocked your bootloader...
Can you reunlock...
Iirc there is a thread with hboot updated... Maybe try that... Or download the Wcxroot thingy and flash the juopenut hboot...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
rignfool said:
Its because of a wrong hboot...
It will happen with all of the ICS+ ROMs...
I wish you hadn't relocked your bootloader...
Can you reunlock...
Iirc there is a thread with hboot updated... Maybe try that... Or download the Wcxroot thingy and flash the juopenut hboot...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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so, you're basically saying i might be able to get it to work without any RUUs or PH39IMGs?
Wow, that would be good news at last.
I already reunlocked before i flashed the CM10 rom and i didn't forget to flash the boot.img afterwards and even went back again to recovery to wipe cache and dalvik and fixed permissions.
Which one should i try?
thank you for your help!! :good:
is updating the hboot even possible without s-off?
so it seems i have to obtain s-off to flash anything else than stock rom...
as far as i read you have to be on stock ruu to obtain s-off, is that correct?
because that would be bad, as i don't have the stock ruu for my phone.
is it possible to acquire s-off without being on stock rom and would it be possible with the state my phone is in?
deweini said:
is updating the hboot even possible without s-off?
so it seems i have to obtain s-off to flash anything else than stock rom...
as far as i read you have to be on stock ruu to obtain s-off, is that correct?
because that would be bad, as i don't have the stock ruu for my phone.
is it possible to acquire s-off without being on stock rom and would it be possible with the state my phone is in?
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I think homeslice s-offed his phone on a non stock ROM...
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rignfool said:
I think homeslice s-offed his phone on a non stock ROM...
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk
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i already wrote a pm. do you have any ideas left? maybe try and install a gb rom and then try that ruu again?
ps: i did manage to start the ruu.exe (by reinstalling the htc sync) and it stopped with the error 131. installing the rom.zip (or PH39IMG.zip) still won't work as it says customer id check failed...
deweini said:
i already wrote a pm. do you have any ideas left? maybe try and install a gb rom and then try that ruu again?
ps: i did manage to start the ruu.exe (by reinstalling the htc sync) and it stopped with the error 131. installing the rom.zip (or PH39IMG.zip) still won't work as it says customer id check failed...
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Okay, so I did manage to fix it, as it seems... :laugh:
This is what I did:
1. reunlocked bootloader
2. installed TWRP and booted into recovery
3. mounted the internal SD as mass storage
4. copied over VJRaiders GB rom
5. did a full wipe
6. installed VJRaiders rom
7. rebooted into bootloader
8. fastboot flashed the kernel found in the rom thread (twice)
9. rebooted and it worked...
I don't know how and why, but the problem seemed to be that I always tried to flash non-GB roms. As simple as that.
I have no idea why the RUU and PH39IMG didn't work tho...
Well. I won't touch that thing for a looong time, as it works and I had enough problems getting there!
The reason that you had problems with ics and upward roms is because your phone still has the gb hboot. This is because boss never released the ics update. To install ics roms you need the ics hboot.
Sent from my HTC One
WildfireDEV said:
The reason that you had problems with ics and upward roms is because your phone still has the gb hboot. This is because boss never released the ics update. To install ics roms you need the ics hboot.
Sent from my HTC One
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Which I'm only able to attain with s-off, am I right?
Correct, I believe. If you didn't get an official update to ICS, you'll have to S-Off. It's honestly not as bad as it sounds, I did mine with some speaker wire...probably the worst part of it is getting the cover off of the section where you have to ground out the point. Just take your time, and make sure you're in a well lit area, with a little bit of working space, and you'll be fine.
well, the problem is, that we are not longer on a stock rom and can't seem to flash the original ruu, as we don't find it anywhere...
and as far as i know it is not recommended or possible to go s-off without being on stock rom!?
AFAIK it is UNTESTED... Not impossible
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If this is anything like other HTC devices, i'd say your best shot if you're willing to try an untested idea, would be to give it a shot with a sense rom, as they tend to be (under the hood anyways) a lot closer to stock than non sense roms.
hey guys, Just trying to get my bearings on where to start. A friend game me a HTC Desire 510 that was not loading for him. Just sticking on the HTC loading screen.
He managed to "unlock" it. Not sure if it has root access.
In anycase it will not loal anymore, stuck on HTC load screen. I followed a few threads and tried to reset/restore things but now it looks like i need to just reinstall the OS.
Where I am lost is where/can i get the stock OS for this phone?
If not , do i need to get root access, load in a bootloader and then load in a custom ROM?
last time I did all this before was 2 years ago on a Samsung so I am a little rusty on the steps.
details
HTC Desire 510 - europe (Irish)
HBOOT - 3.19.0.0000
Radio 01.02.012
When I load up the bootloader I have "Sofrware status: Officaial *** at the tope and UNLOCKED under that.
Cheers
check the htc website for the latest rom(update) also this thread is sprint/virgin/boost
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/development/virgin-sprint-htc-desire-510-stock-t2961521
cricket stock rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/help/stock-rom-cricket-htc-desire-510-t3161697
id see if the htc site works first but thats just me.
hope i was of help to you with your issues if not wait for more experanced members to assist.
roymcd said:
hey guys, Just trying to get my bearings on where to start. A friend game me a HTC Desire 510 that was not loading for him. Just sticking on the HTC loading screen.
He managed to "unlock" it. Not sure if it has root access.
In anycase it will not loal anymore, stuck on HTC load screen. I followed a few threads and tried to reset/restore things but now it looks like i need to just reinstall the OS.
Where I am lost is where/can i get the stock OS for this phone?
If not , do i need to get root access, load in a bootloader and then load in a custom ROM?
last time I did all this before was 2 years ago on a Samsung so I am a little rusty on the steps.
details
HTC Desire 510 - europe (Irish)
HBOOT - 3.19.0.0000
Radio 01.02.012
When I load up the bootloader I have "Sofrware status: Officaial *** at the tope and UNLOCKED under that.
Cheers
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Are you in Europe? If you are that's most likely a 64 bit phone and you'll need Philz Touch Recovery unless you have one installed. You'll also need to find a 64 bit stock HTC desire 510 rom.. It should work after installing them.
Edit: The HTC websites rom updater will not work since the phones boot is unlocked.. Just try what I said above.
Yes I am in Europe.
Will give what suggested a go and let you know..
cheers
here is your man for the job
ok mthis has happen to me before alright take the sdcard out reboot to fastboot relocok bootloader by typing 'fastboot oem relock' get the ruu for your phone then it will help you if you find this helpful hit the thank you button
bcbradley12 said:
ok mthis has happen to me before alright take the sdcard out reboot to fastboot relocok bootloader by typing 'fastboot oem relock' get the ruu for your phone then it will help you if you find this helpful hit the thank you button
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It's actually fastboot oem lock
bcbradley12 said:
ok mthis has happen to me before alright take the sdcard out reboot to fastboot relocok bootloader by typing 'fastboot oem relock' get the ruu for your phone then it will help you if you find this helpful hit the thank you button
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MrMike2182 said:
Are you in Europe? If you are that's most likely a 64 bit phone and you'll need Philz Touch Recovery unless you have one installed. You'll also need to find a 64 bit stock HTC desire 510 rom.. It should work after installing them.
Edit: The HTC websites rom updater will not work since the phones boot is unlocked.. Just try what I said above.
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Ok guys , getting around to trying this now but running into some small problems.
Question 1
I have installed adb.exe and it does work with my main phone (HTC m8) but when i plug in the broken phone it does not pick up that phone (when i do a ">adb.exe devices") I saw some comments saying that I need to enable debug mode but how can I do that when i cannot even load the phone up ?
Question 2
I would like to install this Philz Touch Recovery , so i can installed the new RUU but I see on some sites that I need to install ClockworkMod first. Now I am not sure if this is needed or not but i still have the problem of being unable to install it from the bootloader screen. There is no option to install from zip? So this might sound like a real n00b question but how can install anything to my phone when all i have it the bootloader screen. My options when i boot up are . . .
Fastboot
-->HBOOT
-->RAMDUMP
-->REBOOT
-->REBOOT fastboot
-->power down
recovery
factory reset
simlock
check smartSD
image CRC show barcode.
Review. . .
I would think my issue is with the broken phones connecting to my laptop and the use of adb.exe. If I could get that working i can use adb.exe to installl clockworkmod and from that I can boot up the phone and install Philz Touch Recovery, and then using phils installer I can install the original 64bit Rom and be in business?
does that seem right?
Cheers
roymcd said:
Ok guys , getting around to trying this now but running into some small problems.
Question 1
I have installed adb.exe and it does work with my main phone (HTC m8) but when i plug in the broken phone it does not pick up that phone (when i do a ">adb.exe devices") I saw some comments saying that I need to enable debug mode but how can I do that when i cannot even load the phone up ?
Question 2
I would like to install this Philz Touch Recovery , so i can installed the new RUU but I see on some sites that I need to install ClockworkMod first. Now I am not sure if this is needed or not but i still have the problem of being unable to install it from the bootloader screen. There is no option to install from zip? So this might sound like a real n00b question but how can install anything to my phone when all i have it the bootloader screen. My options when i boot up are . . .
Fastboot
-->HBOOT
-->RAMDUMP
-->REBOOT
-->REBOOT fastboot
-->power down
recovery
factory reset
simlock
check smartSD
image CRC show barcode.
Review. . .
I would think my issue is with the broken phones connecting to my laptop and the use of adb.exe. If I could get that working i can use adb.exe to installl clockworkmod and from that I can boot up the phone and install Philz Touch Recovery, and then using phils installer I can install the original 64bit Rom and be in business?
does that seem right?
Cheers
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Never mind if figured it out. .
roymcd said:
Never mind if figured it out. .
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Nice to see you figured it out!
MrMike2182 said:
Nice to see you figured it out!
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Well now that you say that. I am having a strange issue. The phone will boot but only when I select "recovery" mode from the bootloader?
I presume what I have done is flashed the wrong image to the wrong section. I think i need to to flash something to boot and not to recovery when I was running the "fastboot flash recovery image.img!"
ideas?
roymcd said:
Well now that you say that. I am having a strange issue. The phone will boot but only when I select "recovery" mode from the bootloader?
I presume what I have done is flashed the wrong image to the wrong section. I think i need to to flash something to boot and not to recovery when I was running the "fastboot flash recovery image.img!"
ideas?
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I don't get what you're trying to do. If you wanna get back up and running, all you have to do is relock the bootloader and run the RUU... That's it. Your recovery doesn't matter. You don't need a custom recovery for that. Any custom recovery you have will be replaced by the stock one when you run the RUU.
I haven't been on this forum much lately, (so please correct me if I'm wrong, somebody) but from what I remember, the only custom recovery available for the 64-bit variant 510 is Philz. If that's the case then you shouldn't be flashing CWM
Surj138 said:
I don't get what you're trying to do. If you wanna get back up and running, all you have to do is relock the bootloader and run the RUU... That's it. Your recovery doesn't matter. You don't need a custom recovery for that. Any custom recovery you have will be replaced by the stock one when you run the RUU.
I haven't been on this forum much lately, (so please correct me if I'm wrong, somebody) but from what I remember, the only custom recovery available for the 64-bit variant 510 is Philz. If that's the case then you shouldn't be flashing CWM
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Yes you seem to be correct . I locked the bootloader and then used the command "fastboot flash boot <htc_orginal_ruu>" and it started working again.
I had lots of issues trying to get the CWM installed . It was someone else on this thread that suggested that but I think that info was wrong.
And just to conform for others that may read this someday you do not need Phils recover if you want to get the original system running. if you want to install custom ROMs then you need it then.
Thanks for the input. Half the time its just good to write out your problem so you can understand.
roymcd said:
Yes you seem to be correct . I locked the bootloader and then used the command "fastboot flash boot <htc_orginal_ruu>" and it started working again.
I had lots of issues trying to get the CWM installed . It was someone else on this thread that suggested that but I think that info was wrong.
And just to conform for others that may read this someday you do not need Phils recover if you want to get the original system running. if you want to install custom ROMs then you need it then.
Thanks for the input. Half the time its just good to write out your problem so you can understand.
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I did say you needed philz touch recovery if you have a 64 bit phone and you never really answered the 64 bit question and I asked because you said you are in Europe (Irish) and if you do have a 64 bit phone then you do need philz if you want to use other roms like the rest (most) of us on here do.
MrMike2182 said:
I did say you needed philz touch recovery if you have a 64 bit phone and you never really answered the 64 bit question and I asked because you said you are in Europe (Irish) and if you do have a 64 bit phone then you do need philz if you want to use other roms like the rest (most) of us on here do.
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Yeah it was a 64bit phone.
I wanted the original OS back on the phone so that is why i did not need phils tool.
roymcd said:
Yeah it was a 64bit phone.
I wanted the original OS back on the phone so that is why i did not need phils tool.
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I kinda figured all that out on my own already but why do you just want stock? Why don't you want a rooted phone so you can do a lot more with it?
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roymcd said:
Yes you seem to be correct . I locked the bootloader and then used the command "fastboot flash boot <htc_orginal_ruu>" and it started working again.
I had lots of issues trying to get the CWM installed . It was someone else on this thread that suggested that but I think that info was wrong.
And just to conform for others that may read this someday you do not need Phils recover if you want to get the original system running. if you want to install custom ROMs then you need it then.
Thanks for the input. Half the time its just good to write out your problem so you can understand.
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I've read through this entire thread more than 3 times and I never once seen anyone in this thread tell you to run CWM(ClockWorkMod).. or to even use that so where did get that idea from... The only thing I suggested was Philz Touch Recovery as did @Surj138 for a good reason cause it's the only one that's 64 bit for your phone!
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I kinda figured all that out on my own already but why do you just want stock? Why don't you want a rooted phone so you can do a lot more with it?
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I've read through this entire thread more than 3 times and I never once seen anyone in this thread tell you to run CWM(ClockWorkMod).. or to even use that so where did get that idea from... The only thing I suggested was Philz Touch Recovery as did @Surj138 for a good reason cause it's the only one that's 64 bit for your phone!
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It was from other threads that I read to install Phils recovery I would need install CWM but I think now that is for other phones. I said it was in this thread by mistake.
As for going for the original ROM as opposed to a custom ROM my reasoning is three fold. . . .
1. This phone will not be staying with me. Will be giving it back to my friend who is giving it to his daughter. She is would have no use for a root phone.
2. The last time I was using custom ROM was with my Samsung S2 about 3 years ago. I did like all the extra features, free apps and full customization that you can do with it but I did find that no matter what custom ROM I found there would be little problems with each one. Performance would slowly drop the more i switched around the custom ROMS.
3. Custom ROMs are great and all but we cannot be 100% sure there is not hidden male-ware in some of them that is robbing my data. It was going to be a spare phone for playing games then i would not mind but to give to someone as there main phone is not the best option.
roymcd said:
It was from other threads that I read to install Phils recovery I would need install CWM but I think now that is for other phones. I said it was in this thread by mistake.
As for going for the original ROM as opposed to a custom ROM my reasoning is three fold. . . .
1. This phone will not be staying with me. Will be giving it back to my friend who is giving it to his daughter. She is would have no use for a root phone.
2. The last time I was using custom ROM was with my Samsung S2 about 3 years ago. I did like all the extra features, free apps and full customization that you can do with it but I did find that no matter what custom ROM I found there would be little problems with each one. Performance would slowly drop the more i switched around the custom ROMS.
3. Custom ROMs are great and all but we cannot be 100% sure there is not hidden male-ware in some of them that is robbing my data. It was going to be a spare phone for playing games then i would not mind but to give to someone as there main phone is not the best option.
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Understood sir!!
Hello. I have unlocked bootloader successfully (it says "unlocked" at screen and also "tampered"). I have all the fastboot/adb software on my windows pc and can communicate with the phone. I flash recovery via fastboot and it is successful...includes a "recovery" option under bootloader options but it just flashes a disclaimer screen and quickly goes back to bootloader screen. Without custom recovery I cannot root this phone which is my goal. I have tried to reflash other recovery images, including cmw and twrp - I believe cmw is on it now but it won't open.
Hoping someone can assist me with this.
Thank you
belowHeights00 said:
Hello. I have unlocked bootloader successfully (it says "unlocked" at screen and also "tampered"). I have all the fastboot/adb software on my windows pc and can communicate with the phone. I flash recovery via fastboot and it is successful...includes a "recovery" option under bootloader options but it just flashes a disclaimer screen and quickly goes back to bootloader screen. Without custom recovery I cannot root this phone which is my goal. I have tried to reflash other recovery images, including cmw and twrp - I believe cmw is on it now but it won't open.
Hoping someone can assist me with this.
Thank you
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Reflash whichever recovery you plan to use then remove the battery and put it back in then hold the volume down button and then press and hold the power button at the same time and the phone should then boot to recovery. Make a backup after so you have something to fall back on just in case.
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Reflash whichever recovery you plan to use then remove the battery and put it back in then hold the volume down button and then press and hold the power button at the same time and the phone should then boot to recovery. Make a backup after so you have something to fall back on just in case.
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Thanks for the reply! I just now gave that a shot but it had no effect.
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Thanks for the reply! I just now gave that a shot but it had no effect.
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Are you actually holding both buttons down at the same time until the screen turns on? Don't let them go hold them both down until your screen lights up. Then select recovery but if it doesn't work then try below.
Try flashing this version of twrp https://twrp.me/devices/htcdesire510usa32bit.html ... If you're not in the USA I need to know.
Flashing twrp didn't change anything unfortunately. I recently tried re-locking my bootloader and attempted to flash stock images back to the phone but when I press "yes" to the question about voiding the warranty before unlocking the bootloader again...the disclaimer just flashes and the phone won't let it.
Also, I cannot seem to restore it to stock through the menu...nor the bootloader screen.
So now I have "tampered" and "Relocked" banners on top of bootloader screen.
One the upside, the phone itself works fine (I currently only use it for wifi).
Only thing I can think of is I originally flashed a corrupt recovery img (or incompatible version).
Hoping you or someone else has any ideas as to how to get this thing working again. I'd be happy with reverting completly back to stock and starting the process over..
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Flashing twrp didn't change anything unfortunately. I recently tried re-locking my bootloader and attempted to flash stock images back to the phone but when I press "yes" to the question about voiding the warranty before unlocking the bootloader again...the disclaimer just flashes and the phone won't let it.
Also, I cannot seem to restore it to stock through the menu...nor the bootloader screen.
So now I have "tampered" and "Relocked" banners on top of bootloader screen.
One the upside, the phone itself works fine (I currently only use it for wifi).
Only thing I can think of is I originally flashed a corrupt recovery img (or incompatible version).
Hoping you or someone else has any ideas as to how to get this thing working again. I'd be happy with reverting completly back to stock and starting the process over..
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What service provider are you using?
Don't toss the unlock code you got from HTC you're gonna need the very first one you got keep it forever.
I'm using Boost but I think I figured it out. It ended up being a corrupt download of cmw. I actually used an ruu to get back stock and now the whole process went smoothly. Just looking for a rom that fits...got any recommendations in that area?
belowHeights00 said:
I'm using Boost but I think I figured it out. It ended up being a corrupt download of cmw. I actually used an ruu to get back stock and now the whole process went smoothly. Just looking for a rom that fits...got any recommendations in that area?
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Not really since everyone has their own tastes but I'd advise you to create a backup in your recovery so you can use it in case something goes wrong. Currently me and a friend are working on CM13/12..
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Not really since everyone has their own tastes but I'd advise you to create a backup in your recovery so you can use it in case something goes wrong. Currently me and a friend are working on CM13/12..
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Funny enough I never made a backup before and constantly have to re-locate stock images due to soft bricking. I now am making backups so as not to go through that again.
I have a question perhaps you could answer -- if I install a rom that doesn't include any additional tweaks such as extended personaliation options in settings (transitions, etc, etc.)..is there a mod I can flash to achieve that?
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Funny enough I never made a backup before and constantly have to re-locate stock images due to soft bricking. I now am making backups so as not to go through that again.
I have a question perhaps you could answer -- if I install a rom that doesn't include any additional tweaks such as extended personaliation options in settings (transitions, etc, etc.)..is there a mod I can flash to achieve that?
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For extended personalizing other than developer options, I'd use Xposed.
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Not really since everyone has their own tastes but I'd advise you to create a backup in your recovery so you can use it in case something goes wrong. Currently me and a friend are working on CM13/12..
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How have you started working on that, i gthink i should join too. Are you working on the USA model or UK? (X86 or X64)
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How have you started working on that, i gthink i should join too. Are you working on the USA model or UK? (X86 or X64)
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The USA model because myself and rb don't have the EU phone to even test anything on it.. We still have a lot of booting problems right now. I'd say if you wanted to help I'd have to ask what you know about building roms from source? Have you done it before?
P.S: There's already a CM-12.1 available for the EU model although it does have some issues.. You should read about it if you want to try it..
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The USA model because myself and rb don't have the EU phone to even test anything on it.. We still have a lot of booting problems right now. I'd say if you wanted to help I'd have to ask what you know about building roms from source? Have you done it before?
P.S: There's already a CM-12.1 available for the EU model although it does have some issues.. You should read about it if you want to try it..
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Not really, But perhaps it time to learn
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Not really, But perhaps it time to learn
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It's pretty cool and fun once you get the hang of making things and seeing them function right, and the other thing is... You'll need a pretty decent computer to compile/build with and it'll need to have at least 4GB ram (more is better) and about 50 to 100 GB hard drive space for building your rom plus the CM source code needs to be on your system too...
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It's pretty cool and fun once you get the hang of making things and seeing them function right, and the other thing is... You'll need a pretty decent computer to compile/build with and it'll need to have at least 4GB ram (more is better) and about 50 to 100 GB hard drive space for building your rom plus the CM source code needs to be on your system too...
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I guess then am good to go, are those the only requirements....... i dont have any source code though
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I guess then am good to go, are those the only requirements....... i dont have any source code though
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Well how fast is your internet? By the way.. I'm using a Linux operating system... What are you using? It cannot be done on Windows unless you use a VM.
Hey, I also faced this problem but I find the solution and successfully flash twrp
Hey, I also faced this problem but I find the solution and successfully flash tarp recovery.
belowHeights00 said:
Hello. I have unlocked bootloader successfully (it says "unlocked" at screen and also "tampered"). I have all the fastboot/adb software on my windows pc and can communicate with the phone. I flash recovery via fastboot and it is successful...includes a "recovery" option under bootloader options but it just flashes a disclaimer screen and quickly goes back to bootloader screen. Without custom recovery I cannot root this phone which is my goal. I have tried to reflash other recovery images, including cmw and twrp - I believe cmw is on it now but it won't open.
Hoping someone can assist me with this.
Thank you
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Well how fast is your internet? By the way.. I'm using a Linux operating system... What are you using? It cannot be done on Windows unless you use a VM.
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Sorry for the delay, yes.... i am using vm ware... my net is not that fast... but it can get things done.
Hey guys! So this is a very strange issue. When I power off my nexus, a lot of times I have to wait a good 30 seconds or so before I can power it back on or go into the bootloader. If I power it off, and try to turn it back on fast, it stays black screen almost as of it's frozen or just not responding. I noticed this issue begun when I flashed the radio from N preview 2, and didn't happen before that. My question here, is what could this be? Can the radio really cause odd things like this to happen? Or is there another cause? I am running the newest Android version MOB30I, and have multirom installed with about 4 or so secondaries.
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Hey guys! So this is a very strange issue. When I power off my nexus, a lot of times I have to wait a good 30 seconds or so before I can power it back on or go into the bootloader. If I power it off, and try to turn it back on fast, it stays black screen almost as of it's frozen or just not responding. I noticed this issue begun when I flashed the radio from N preview 2, and didn't happen before that. My question here, is what could this be? Can the radio really cause odd things like this to happen? Or is there another cause? I am running the newest Android version MOB30I, and have multirom installed with about 4 or so secondaries.
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You flashed Npreview radio on a marshmallow build?
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You flashed Npreview radio on a marshmallow build?
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Yes! Yes I did. Could this be an issue?
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Yes! Yes I did. Could this be an issue?
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no. as im using the n preview radio on marshmallow, which is the same radio that came out with the last security update.
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Hey guys! So this is a very strange issue. When I power off my nexus, a lot of times I have to wait a good 30 seconds or so before I can power it back on or go into the bootloader. If I power it off, and try to turn it back on fast, it stays black screen almost as of it's frozen or just not responding. I noticed this issue begun when I flashed the radio from N preview 2, and didn't happen before that. My question here, is what could this be? Can the radio really cause odd things like this to happen? Or is there another cause? I am running the newest Android version MOB30I, and have multirom installed with about 4 or so secondaries.
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im going to guess, try a different kernel. as its the kernel that will boot up the device?
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Yes! Yes I did. Could this be an issue?
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Yes it can. Why did you do that?
Make a backup (android or titatium backup)
Then reflash stock n6 firmware (erase data so put your backup and important files into pc)
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Yes it can. Why did you do that?
Make a backup (android or titatium backup)
Then reflash stock n6 firmware (erase data so put your backup and important files into pc)
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the N radio, is the same exact radio that google released for the may security patch. so the N radio, is the latest official radio for the nexus 6. so no, that wont be the problem.
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no. as im using the n preview radio on marshmallow, which is the same radio that came out with the last security update.
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im going to guess, try a different kernel. as its the kernel that will boot up the device?
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I wonder if it is. I'm using the newest Elite kernel for Marshmallow, it's always been my go to kernel. It's strange because after turning the device off, I can't turn it back on instantly, screen stays black as if it's not 100% shut down yet. I have to wait a bit before turning it back on, or entering the bootloader.
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im going to guess, try a different kernel. as its the kernel that will boot up the device?
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No, it's the bootloader that boots the device.
If he's hitting the power button and unable to get to the "Google" splash screen or the bootloader, the kernel is very irrelevant.
I'd be more curious if he's trying to use the bootloader from the N-Preview 2 with MM. Even though I think it's supposed to be backwards compatible, the bootloader is the only thing that would cause that sort of issue.
*technically* I'm pretty sure that you could format /boot (where the kernel is stored) and still get to your bootloader for fastboot and such. So, the kernel is really irrelevant until after the bootloader does it's thing.
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also, there's a reason that these are known as "Developer Previews" not "End-User Previews"... If you don't know how to fix weird issues that pop up like that, you should probably avoid them.
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No, it's the bootloader that boots the device.
If he's hitting the power button and unable to get to the "Google" splash screen or the bootloader, the kernel is very irrelevant.
I'd be more curious if he's trying to use the bootloader from the N-Preview 2 with MM. Even though I think it's supposed to be backwards compatible, the bootloader is the only thing that would cause that sort of issue.
*technically* I'm pretty sure that you could format /boot (where the kernel is stored) and still get to your bootloader for fastboot and such. So, the kernel is really irrelevant until after the bootloader does it's thing.
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also, there's a reason that these are known as "Developer Previews" not "End-User Previews"... If you don't know how to fix weird issues that pop up like that, you should probably avoid them.
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Mmm yes after what said simms22 I've check the n preview and the bootloader is xxx.18 instead of last mm which is xxx.17 but a bootloader downgrade is risky right?
@H4X0R46 do you use the .sh file and update your bootloader and radio with n preview?
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Mmm yes after what said simms22 I've check the n preview and the bootloader is xxx.18 instead of last mm which is xxx.17 but a bootloader downgrade is risky right?
@H4X0R46 do you use the .sh file and update your bootloader and radio with n preview?
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It can be. Normally, once you upgrade, you just stick with the new one as they're backwards compatible normally. But, the ones for the Previews aren't always 100%. The whole reason these previews come out is so that developers can start making their apps compatible prior to the official release. Ideally, this is supposed to be done in emulators not necessarily real devices.
If the 30 second delay in powering back on is *that* big of a deal (to him) to risk bricking the phone by downgrading the bootloader and having something go wrong... I say go for it.
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It can be. Normally, once you upgrade, you just stick with the new one as they're backwards compatible normally. But, the ones for the Previews aren't always 100%. The whole reason these previews come out is so that developers can start making their apps compatible prior to the official release. Ideally, this is supposed to be done in emulators not necessarily real devices.
If the 30 second delay in powering back on is *that* big of a deal (to him) to risk bricking the phone by downgrading the bootloader and having something go wrong... I say go for it.
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Is downgrading the bootloader really risky? I've done it before without issue and never knew this was risky! Are you supposed to just stay with the newest bootloader if you already flashed it? I always flash the bootloader for the image I'm flashing, even if I'm downgrading.
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Mmm yes after what said simms22 I've check the n preview and the bootloader is xxx.18 instead of last mm which is xxx.17 but a bootloader downgrade is risky right?
@H4X0R46 do you use the .sh file and update your bootloader and radio with n preview?
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I flash each partition manually.
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Is downgrading the bootloader really risky? I've done it before without issue and never knew this was risky! Are you supposed to just stay with the newest bootloader if you already flashed it? I always flash the bootloader for the image I'm flashing, even if I'm downgrading.
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It's always risky when you're messing with essentially the lowest level software on the device. For instance, lets say that something happens while you're flashing the bootloader and it corrupts. What do you use to reflash it? You can't get to fastboot anymore...
As long as you know what you're doing, don't have corrupt images, and don't lose power or have lightning strike your computer while you're doing it, you would be fine.
The issue is that many/most people on XDA these days have no idea how to recover from problems or even what problems the things that they're doing might cause. So I tend to approach every situation under the assumption that the other poster may not have a full understanding.
No offense intended of course.
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It's always risky when you're messing with essentially the lowest level software on the device. For instance, lets say that something happens while you're flashing the bootloader and it corrupts. What do you use to reflash it? You can't get to fastboot anymore...
As long as you know what you're doing, don't have corrupt images, and don't lose power or have lightning strike your computer while you're doing it, you would be fine.
The issue is that many/most people on XDA these days have no idea how to recover from problems or even what problems the things that they're doing might cause. So I tend to approach every situation under the assumption that the other poster may not have a full understanding.
No offense intended of course.
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Alright so that's just to be safe then? My laptop sometimes freezes solid out of the blue, uncommon but does happen, and I always thought "what if I'm flashing stuff?" Scary thought. ESPECIALLY the bootloader! So the danger you're referring to is flashing a bootloader in general, not so much downgrading? Like I said, I always match the bootloader to the version I'm running. This is okay?
EDIT: I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check the MD5 checksum for EVERYTHING before flashing. Can never be too safe
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Alright so that's just to be safe then? My laptop sometimes freezes solid out of the blue, uncommon but does happen, and I always thought "what if I'm flashing stuff?" Scary thought. ESPECIALLY the bootloader! So the danger you're referring to is flashing a bootloader in general, not so much downgrading? Like I said, I always match the bootloader to the version I'm running. This is okay?
EDIT: I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS check the MD5 checksum for EVERYTHING before flashing. Can never be too safe
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In general, the bootloader needs to match the highest version of android you intend to run. They're typically always backward compatible. On some phones, you can't downgrade the bootloader (at least not easily). This phone you should be fine doing so. However, there's not usually any reason to (backwards compatible afterall).
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In general, the bootloader needs to match the highest version of android you intend to run. They're typically always backward compatible. On some phones, you can't downgrade the bootloader (at least not easily). This phone you should be fine doing so. However, there's not usually any reason to (backwards compatible afterall).
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Cool! Thanks for your input on that! Much appreciated! Yea I'm always wary of the bootloader because like you said, it IS the lowest software on the device. Quick question, if that were to get corrupted, does the device just not boot resulting in permanent brick? Or does it boot just no fastboot access? Might be a noob question, but why not ask lol
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Cool! Thanks for your input on that! Much appreciated! Yea I'm always wary of the bootloader because like you said, it IS the lowest software on the device. Quick question, if that were to get corrupted, does the device just not boot resulting in permanent brick? Or does it boot just no fastboot access? Might be a noob question, but why not ask lol
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Depends, I've never really looked into unbricking this phone. Never had to yet.
Depending on the phone you can use tools like QHUSB and similar which let you reflash partitions just through the USB connection.
I know it's late but it could also be just the rom setup. I know a while ago there were commits that shut the device screen and buttons off before it was done shutting down (to make it appear faster) this made devices seem bricked for a short period. I don't know what ever happen to those commits, so I can't say for sure that it is them. But your issue fits perfectly.
So have I been flashing the bootloader wrong all along? I flashed in twrp a couple times but I try to flash them individually and wipe after flashing.
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Anybody able to find out why? I'm surprised to see I'm not the only one having this issue, it's annoying really.