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Hi all, I've a very simple question: I finally decided to upgrade my Froyo 2.2 Galaxy S to Gingerbread and I'm trying to understand if I'll lose all my apps or not.
A friend of mine, who has an unbranded Galaxy S, says that he didn't loose his apps... It's not that I don't trust him, but I can't find anything on the web that confirms this thing!
Thank you for your help
EDIT: I'm going to use Kies for the upgrade, so I'm going to install an official firmware
You will keep all of your apps, but if you want to feel more comfortable you can always use Titanium Backup to make a backup of your apps.
The official upgrade process will keep your apps and data...
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Those apps that you install later on? It's gonna be wipe out during the upgrade process. Usually people don't recommend backing up apps and data from different OS build (like from froyo to gingerbread)
I had posted a similar thread earlier, but it had a different reason and a different solution, yea, KL7 was the solution..but its been a week since I upgraded and now unfortunately my note is becoming slower!!!
what could be the reason. Im on stock kl7 meant for DBT. i had s2 earlier (nw its with my wife) and i really miss the superspeed s2. i have a iphone 4 with me (secondary phone) and now due to timesaving efforts im using more of iphone 4 eventhough i hate the small size. (pls dont call me a iphone fan!!!). i need note's display and size and s2's speed!!
any latest stock rom's??? (non wipe versions???)
khan.dharvesh said:
I had posted a similar thread earlier, but it had a different reason and a different solution, yea, KL7 was the solution..but its been a week since I upgraded and now unfortunately my note is becoming slower!!!
what could be the reason. Im on stock kl7 meant for DBT. i had s2 earlier (nw its with my wife) and i really miss the superspeed s2. i have a iphone 4 with me (secondary phone) and now due to timesaving efforts im using more of iphone 4 eventhough i hate the small size. (pls dont call me a iphone fan!!!). i need note's display and size and s2's speed!!
any latest stock rom's??? (non wipe versions???)
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Why don't you use Custom ROM??
ranjan.alva said:
Why don't you use Custom ROM??
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ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
khan.dharvesh said:
ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
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1. Possibly. Possibly not. Depends on the ROM. Usually the ROM developer will provide detailed information about what's working, what's working better, what's working worse, and what's not working at all. It's up to you to find the best overall fit.
2. You'll have to do a CWM backup and flash back to stock in order to use Kies. Then again, that's kind of a moot point if you're using a custom ROM anyway. Usually dev's will bake in the latest/best working firmware into their ROM's anyway, so Kies really isn't that big of an issue. I've personally never had a need for Kies; I've always just used Odin. It's way better anyway.
3. Depends on the ROM again. However, coming from stock to a custom ROM, it's highly recommended that A) you do a backup of your stuff and B) you perform a full wipe (keep your backup data in tact obviously).
4. That's up to you really. What may be the best ROM for me might not be well suited for you. Have a look in the dev section and see what's out there!
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
1. Possibly. Possibly not. Depends on the ROM. Usually the ROM developer will provide detailed information about what's working, what's working better, what's working worse, and what's not working at all. It's up to you to find the best overall fit.
2. You'll have to do a CWM backup and flash back to stock in order to use Kies. Then again, that's kind of a moot point if you're using a custom ROM anyway. Usually dev's will bake in the latest/best working firmware into their ROM's anyway, so Kies really isn't that big of an issue. I've personally never had a need for Kies; I've always just used Odin. It's way better anyway.
3. Depends on the ROM again. However, coming from stock to a custom ROM, it's highly recommended that A) you do a backup of your stuff and B) you perform a full wipe (keep your backup data in tact obviously).
4. That's up to you really. What may be the best ROM for me might not be well suited for you. Have a look in the dev section and see what's out there!
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thanks, so custom rom is one solution which i would definitely look into. and it was seriously helpful reply.
khan.dharvesh said:
ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
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yeah you got some points ter, even me too still in Stock rom coz am waiting for CM9.
With so many horror stories being posted, I don't know what to believe. When will it be relatively safe for us to update to ics?
I came from an HD2, and that was a treasure for flashing different roms. But it seems like the note is so easy to brick.
Edit: All I've done so far is root my note using Dr. Ketan's method.
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
I've flashed dozends of ROMs on my old HTC desire including ICS. At the end it worked always fine.
1. Backup
2. Wait after flashing - some roms need their time. After 10 min I've sometimes put out the battery to restart...
3. Enjoy
So don't fear!
I'm waiting for ICS OTA also. There have been lots of mixed reports with the previously leaked ICS ROMS - some bricked and some not. I've had a great run with flashing GB ROMs and Kernels but will wait for more official versions.
BTW - A colleague has a Note about four weeks old bought via the web. It turned out to be a German handset and he was successfully able to flash via KIES. I'm jealous - my Note 6 months old and I am still waiting for official ICS !
If you dont have any crazy combination of rom with custom kernel and cwm then is fine
Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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The fact that we have had ANY bricks at all suggests to me that this is not safe to flash, and even though I have been able to successfully flash LPY and run it, (not without problems), the bit that concerns me is the bricking due to large file copying which has been mentioned by various people.
Since I regularly copy large files to and from the device, I do not plan to subject my device to testing the theory.
I flashed ics yesterday and everything went fine, Iam always paranoid when comes to flashing but research before actual flash is vital! SEARCH button overheats and Iam ALWAYS following instructions!
Dont know what would I do without xda and those so capaple devs!
Galaxy Note!!!
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
nandihno said:
Just dont wipe before flashing
And wipe after flashing
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Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
neos_83 said:
Why is it safe to wipe after flashing and not before? I thought it was the other way around?
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It is the other way around.
Anyway, I fear this might be another superbrick in the making...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653290
And another one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649982
vetchems said:
I have flashed LPY a total of 3 times so far without any problems. I have wiped/deleted cache etc etc. The Bricks are all related to modified kernels and CWM. If you you use the stock LPY kernel then all will be fine.
I have also flashed CM9 several times and had no issues what so ever.
If you need root on LPY best method is to flash a GB rom and get root, then use mobile odin with the everoot option to flash LPY.
DO NOT flash the CF Root kernel, This is where problems may start. Keep it Stock and all should be fine.
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This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
to answer the original question... no... because i thoroughly read as much as i can find before i flash anything...even google it to see if there are problems ... hence i have ics rumming and running without any strange issues...
tbong777 said:
This is exactly what I did...
Mobile Odin Pro inject SuperSU and everroot......NO CF ROOT had a good GB ROM and Kernel. Only wipe done was done by Mobile Odin Pro
No I am 100% stock IPY with root...The fun will start when I begin flashing custom ROMS. Will need to flash CWR for that.
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I decided I did not want to "tip toe" around my normal processes with this device and went ahead and flashed CF Root with CWM. Going to need CWM to flash Roms and the LPY kernel has nt proven to be all that safe either. There is at least one case of a Superbrick wiping from Stock Recovery.
I bought these devices to mess with. I have a back up S2 and the s3 is out....Worst that can happen is I sell for parts.
well i am lucky so far as i dint have any issue with my note even after flashing lpy somany times from cwm may b me lucky till now
I'm terrified of flashing any roms on now after all the horror stories. I honestly don't even really care if I have ICS. I just hate how slow the stock ROM is. I would be very very happy with CM7 with SPen functionality.
This kind of sucks coming from an LG G2X which had so many stable roms and kernals to choose from
I thought a Samsung phone would have had even more but I guess not.
Probably like everyone else, I read Entropy's thread and became SUPER paranoid. He said there's no way to tell if you're slowly degrading the emmc or not unless you're on a 100% safe kernel / rom. I'm confused about the rest of the details. Apparently cm9 is 100% safe, but even the official ics can brick our note if we still have reminants of a leaked ics rom / kernel?
People alot more knowledgable than me have been bricking their note, so I will wait for an idiot proof method.
I would luv to see a step by step guide on video.
Also still dont grasp the fact that even if we put an official ics from Germany will won't get upgrades.
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I've been using lpy since release, and although I've had no problems so far, don't have cwm just root, but the more posts IM reading about people experiencing bricks from many different methods is definitively scaring me.
Chasmodo is a very reputable developer as is Entropy. I heed their words and will flash back to GB today, it's just not worth the risk.
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Thijsvr said:
It's mainly horror stories. Dozens, if not more already flashed to ICS without any problems. Of course there is occasionaly someone with bad luck, but that is also on the OTA updates. Every now and again something goes wrong, but it's a small chance and usually you are still able to fix it afterwards.
So just stick closely to the manual, don't cut corners and you'll probably be okay.
Otherwise, just wait for the OTAs. That's what I'm doing, but that is mainly because I'm a little lazy. However when I got the ICS kernel I'll put vanilla ICS over it.
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I also initially thought it was all speculation and anecdotal evidence. However, it appears that at least one user who has upgraded a brand new Note via Kies to LPY and wiped immediately thereafter has bricked his device.
That being said, I updated via PC Odin, rooted with temp CWM and full wiped from stock recovery thereafter without any issues (so far, been 3-4 days now). The performance improvements that ICS brings are significant, IMHO.
Basically, update if you really want to and refrain from wiping if possible (i.e. if you are not facing any FCs etc).
Hello,
I have a Galaxy Note (GT N-7000) with this ROM (I'm not sure if I have the lite or the full version, a friend installed this on my phone a long time ago).
I attached a screenshot of the about screen if that helps in any way.
I want to update my device to ICS or to JB (if JB is possible in my case, read below).
I'd like to keep all the TouchWiz stuff (S Note, S Memo, S Planner and all that crap), so I need a Stock-based ROM I guess.
Also, I've read that most of the ICS/JB custom ROMS are infected with something (I didn't quite understand with what exactly, but in any case, I did understand that it's likely to hard-brick the phone). Therefore, I'd like a noob-safe way to upgrading if possible, and if not, I'll be more than appreciative if someone could maybe guide my through with it, as I've never flashed a ROM before.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Please let me know if you need any further identification of the phone and I'll try my best to provide it.
P.S
I'd like to keep the data (or back it up then restore, if that's of any help, same result I guess..) from my current installation (Apps, Contacts, Calendar, Memos, etc) if that's possible.
just connect it to samsung kies on he computer and it will upgrade he phone to the latest available firmware. ics only
updating via kies will keep ur data intact as well
offical jb for note is still on the wait
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nokiamodeln91 said:
just connect it to samsung kies on he computer and it will upgrade he phone to the latest available firmware. ics only
updating via kies will keep ur data intact as well
offical jb for note is still on the wait
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I tried that, but Kies told me: "Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies", that's why I went here (sorry, forgot to mention that in my original post).
I guess it's because I'm using a custom ROM (although it's based on a stock one, it's still a custom).
Ok then go to www.sammobile.com and download a gingerbread rom of ur region and flash it via pc odin. then it should revert back to original firmware and then u can update using kies
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benthe said:
Hello,
I have a Galaxy Note (GT N-7000) with this ROM (I'm not sure if I have the lite or the full version, a friend installed this on my phone a long time ago).
I attached a screenshot of the about screen if that helps in any way.
I want to update my device to ICS or to JB (if JB is possible in my case, read below).
I'd like to keep all the TouchWiz stuff (S Note, S Memo, S Planner and all that crap), so I need a Stock-based ROM I guess.
Also, I've read that most of the ICS/JB custom ROMS are infected with something (I didn't quite understand with what exactly, but in any case, I did understand that it's likely to hard-brick the phone). Therefore, I'd like a noob-safe way to upgrading if possible, and if not, I'll be more than appreciative if someone could maybe guide my through with it, as I've never flashed a ROM before.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Please let me know if you need any further identification of the phone and I'll try my best to provide it.
P.S
I'd like to keep the data (or back it up then restore, if that's of any help, same result I guess..) from my current installation (Apps, Contacts, Calendar, Memos, etc) if that's possible.
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Since your current ROM was flashed by your friend, I assume that you have no idea how to start it. You may correct me if I'm wrong.
You should try to read this thread first before start to upgrade your device. All credits go to dr. Ketan for his helpful thread. I'm just helping you to find the thread.
It should be enough for you to upgrade your device to ICS latest official stock ROM.
You don't need to worry about the major problem in ICS, as long as you don't do any full wipe (data wipe) on the ICS stock kernel, then you are fine. Problem in ICS is only its original stock kernel when you do a full wipe, then the eMMC cap brick bugs will occur.
As for the "craps" which you have mentioned before, It will always be included on the original stock ROM from samsung, and the latest firmware even come with ChatON and Flipboard (additional 2 "craps" from Samsung).
Try to read the dr. Ketan thread first for you to understand the step by step in detail. If you need another noob-friendly thread, you may refer to this thread, all credits go to azzledazzle to summarize under his thread.
As for JB updates, you may forget it at the moment. It will not coming very very soon (like in 1-2 days). So you may want to feel a bit better environment in ICS before you start to use JB (when the update comes to us).
You still can post back here if you do not understand.
Good Luck!
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You may want to export your contacts to external SD card / merge with Google first (backup), and also backup your SMS/MMS. You can use a 3rd party app from google play to backup your SMS to external SD card as well.
Reason : It is always advisable to do a clean installation when you are migrating from GB to ICS. Normally you should do your full wipe under GB first, and then you may continue flashing the ICS (Reminder : do your full wipe in GB, don't do it under ICS stock kernel).
Sent from the corner of this rounded earth.
antique_sonic said:
Since your current ROM was flashed by your friend, I assume that you have no idea how to start it. You may correct me if I'm wrong.
You should try to read this thread first before start to upgrade your device. All credits go to dr. Ketan for his helpful thread. I'm just helping you to find the thread.
It should be enough for you to upgrade your device to ICS latest official stock ROM.
You don't need to worry about the major problem in ICS, as long as you don't do any full wipe (data wipe) on the ICS stock kernel, then you are fine. Problem in ICS is only its original stock kernel when you do a full wipe, then the eMMC cap brick bugs will occur.
As for the "craps" which you have mentioned before, It will always be included on the original stock ROM from samsung, and the latest firmware even come with ChatON and Flipboard (additional 2 "craps" from Samsung).
Try to read the dr. Ketan thread first for you to understand the step by step in detail. If you need another noob-friendly thread, you may refer to this thread, all credits go to azzledazzle to summarize under his thread.
As for JB updates, you may forget it at the moment. It will not coming very very soon (like in 1-2 days). So you may want to feel a bit better environment in ICS before you start to use JB (when the update comes to us).
You still can post back here if you do not understand.
Good Luck!
edit :
You may want to export your contacts to external SD card / merge with Google first (backup), and also backup your SMS/MMS. You can use a 3rd party app from google play to backup your SMS to external SD card as well.
Reason : It is always advisable to do a clean installation when you are migrating from GB to ICS. Normally you should do your full wipe under GB first, and then you may continue flashing the ICS (Reminder : do your full wipe in GB, don't do it under ICS stock kernel).
Sent from the corner of this rounded earth.
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Thanks for the helpful comment, and after seeing the thread, I saw that there are a few regions for the firmware for some reason, and would appreciate if someone could explain to me why, and also, how do I choose the one that's right for me? My device was bought from the UK (from Clove.co.uk if anybody knows it), and I'm not sure what regions it belongs to, nor did I see my region in the list (Israel).
Any help on the matter will be most appreciated.
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Would highly appreciate if someone could help out with this one. So far I'm stuck on the upgrade due to not understanding the region thing, and not finding anything about it anywhere on xda:
benthe said:
Thanks for the helpful comment, and after seeing the thread, I saw that there are a few regions for the firmware for some reason, and would appreciate if someone could explain to me why, and also, how do I choose the one that's right for me? My device was bought from the UK (from Clove.co.uk if anybody knows it), and I'm not sure what regions it belongs to, nor did I see my region in the list (Israel).
Any help on the matter will be most appreciated.
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I have had my Bionic for a while now and have been thinking about rooting it. I finally got the ICS update but have been using GO Launcher too much to even notice it. Anyway, like I said, I want to root my phone. I am current on all updates. For some reason it's running at a tenth of it's memory tho not much is running that I can see. This leads me to believe there's things running in the background that I can not see. I am reluctant to get rid of all my apps, but I also don't want anything that's eating all my resources either. I kinda want to start new but kinda don't. I guess I just don't like letting go of anything.
I know this is selfish of me, but I am hoping that this thread will stay clean of others chiming in asking about their issues. I just don't want the thread to lose focus since this is about what I hope to get from my phone.
Ok, so here are my questions or favors to ask:
Since my phone is fully updated, do I need to do some other updated steps for rooting my phone or is rooting always the same no matter the build or version?
When I go to root my phone, I back up everything first and then I get it back, right?
I read somewhere that it's possible to brick the phone. What precautions should I take to avoid that?
Can I get all the benefits of a rooted phone without a ROM?
Are ROMs really that awesome that I should get one, or three?
I am interested in a ROM after some posts and pages I read. I was attracted to CM at first but so is everyone else probably at first. Does CM even work on the Bionic? And if it does, does everything work like the camera and Bluetooth?
As I said earlier, I use GO Launcher. One of the things I really like about it is the folders I can make in the App Drawer. Now CM is based off of ADW Launcher, but no options to make folders in the app drawer? Is it possible in any way if I choose CM as my main ROM?
Is CM overrated? Liberty and Eclipse look nice too. I also read a little, very little, about AOKP. Any suggestions? I want to get rid of a lot of extra processes and bloatware but I don't want to lose some of the apps pre-installed like Google Maps and Navigation, etc. Unless there are other, much better replacements that anyone knows of.
I know most of this is personal preference but I am hoping to find a comprehensive way at figuring out what's best for me.
I had more questions but I will wait and ask more as the thread continues.
Oh, I don't really need answers in step by step unless I ask. A simple link would suffice unless it's not covered anywhere.
Thanks for reading this, I hope I am not frustrating anyone as I am sure similar posts have been made.
You're basically asking to have this entire forum summarized into one post...
Spend some time reading, then ask smaller, more concise questions.
Not trying to sound like a ****, but i could spend an hour answering all of that. Half of those questions could be answered with some reading of the ROM specific threads.
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Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
CycoPuppet said:
Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
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1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/4026-samurihls-house-of-bionic/
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
Obsidian_soul said:
1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter Can not post links
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
CycoPuppet said:
That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
Ratamacue said:
Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: Can not post links
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
Oh one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
CycoPuppet said:
Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
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No, a factory data reset doesn't wipe the ROM, but it does require running the initial setup (as if you were setting up a brand new phone).
CycoPuppet said:
...one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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You definitely want to back up everything you're not willing to lose. I ran a backup the very first thing after installing SafeStrap, and it was a good thing because with all my messing around I managed to bork my stock ROM to the point that it wouldn't boot. Fortunately, all I had to do was restore it from a backup.
My phone on CM 10.1 had enough issues with freezing and crashing that I decided this morning to try a different ROM. So far, I've had really good results with Icarus HD (a custom ICS ROM). I really don't know if my experience with CM 10.1 was typical.
OK, so I want to root. Now does rooting wipe any data? Regarding Safestrap, I install that first before rooting?
Rooting doesn't wipe any data. Root first, then install SafeStrap.
Okay, I will be rooting and installing safestrap when I get home for work today. I will still have more questions I am sure. I do have a few before I actually start rooting or right after.
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
CycoPuppet said:
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
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1. SafeStrap is full recovery only. Use Titanium Backup for backing up apps and data.
2. Flashing a ROM won't do anything to your external SD card.
3. When you set up ROM slots, you'll be asked how much room you'd like to allocate for data. The choices are 1, 2, or 3 GB. I started off allocating 3 GB to the stock ROM slot and was never able to load more than 3 separate ROMs before I ran out of room. I'd start with just using 1 GB for data.
4. Each ROM is an island. You have to download the apps separately (unless when you go through the initial setup you tell the system to restore apps and settings from the Google servers.)
Cool. I rooted and got safestrap but it's version 3.05 and not 3.11. Some ROM I was interested in said must have 3.11, which I am assuming that's the newest one so far. I did watch a tutorial about getting the current version, so no question there.
So the ROMs are separate islands and during flashing they can be in slots allocated up to 3GB. Does that mean that's the only amount of storage I can have when running that ROM? Say I like taking lots of photos and didn't save them to my external card, could I essentially run out of space or is the storage allocation just for the ROM itself and any updates it may have?
Sorry about these series of questions, just want to make sure I am doing it correctly in case I might make a mistake for future's sake.
The storage allocation is for the ROM, apps, and data that haven't been assigned to the external SD card. You can definitely run out of space if you load several ROMs and don't save any of your data to the external SD card.
Also, keep in mind that when VZW sends the OTA update to 4.1 next week, the only way to keep root is to root in ICS and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to protect root before you take the OTA. If you flash the system image, you will lose root, and there is no known working root exploit for the Bionic JB release.
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Not root exploit yet for bionic JB. And if you try to FXZ back to an earlier version, you will brick your phone.
OK, so I rooted, got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo. I had to race the clock today cuz it was updating android, or at least downloading the update. The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok? I didn't update to JB yet. Has there been luck with the Bionic using voodoo and keeping root after the JB update?
All this back and forth means I'm making a full image backup, then trying various ROMs. I've tried CM10.1, too many issues (no car dock, trouble installing lots of apps, no speakerphone). Next is... Whizzed Bean?
EDIT: Seems Speakerphone issue was fixed in the 0420 nightly. Will have to try it again.
AND I copied all the backups to my PC, so I can restore them at will (provided the phone still boots, that is... )
If I can't find a JB ROM I like I guess I can do HouseofBionic reflash (which did NOT cause me to lose data, as I upgraded to ICS that way) then allow the JB OTA to go through.
*sigh*... So much bull**** in these updates.
Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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WB is a fork of CNA (codename Android) 4.1 JB (which is itself based on AOSP)
while Synergy is a fork of the standard Moto ICS (.246).
Yes, they look identical because they both used the Samsung UI elements.