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I've been reading up on some nexus 7 stuff but I'm pretty new to it and was running 4.1.2 until recently, I see 4.2.2 was released but couldn't see any concrete feedback on how it compares to say custom roms like smoothrom based on 4.2.1. Do you guys find it better than say smooth rom in UI performance and battery? I'm not sure if I should change to 4.2.2 or stick with 4.2.1 custom roms with performance/smoothness tweaks for now.
Thanks
Smoother here.
I found my N7 sped up with 4.2.1 anyway when I cleared up some space. Havn't loaded it down since, so that may be the reason.
The main reason I want back to 4.1, was the broken Bluetooth Audio, but that also seems to be much improved in 4.2.
Will give rooted 4.2.2 stock a shot then, thanks
I've been on 4.2.2 for a few hours and I must say the wireless appears to be erratic! I'm sitting between 2 APs with same SSID so I don't know if the roaming settings are too aggresive...but seems worse than 4.2 was :thumbdown:
I'm hoping Bluetooth is better than it was as my creative headset would constantly go out of sync on 4.2!
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I'm running the latest Paranoid Android 4.2.2 nightly and it's running perfect. The Bluetooth works with the flashable zip fix just fine. I use my sixaxis controller with it and it's flawless. Benchmarks are about the same as before, but I don't really pay attention to them. I would recommend updating, I regret not doing it sooner.
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I've been on 4.2.2 for a few hours and I must say the wireless appears to be erratic! I'm sitting between 2 APs with same SSID so I don't know if the roaming settings are too aggresive...but seems worse than 4.2 was :thumbdown:
I'm hoping Bluetooth is better than it was as my creative headset would constantly go out of sync on 4.2!
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I am actually noticing better WiFi performance with 4.2.2. I don't have to use better WiFi anymore, it switches seamlessly between my 2 routers with the same ssid. 4.2.2 made my nexus 7 run a lot smoother and faster, all around it was a good decision to upgrade.
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Bluetooth was pretty much screwed on all devices by 4.2.x. I have a Nexus 7 and a HTC One XL, which I used to tether via bluetooth. This worked perfectly when both devices were on 4.1.2. Now the devices pair and the Nexus 7 claims to be using the One XL for internet connectivity, but it doesn't work and says network unreachable when I ping from terminal.
I never use bluetooth audio on my Nexus, but I do use it on my One XL. That's pretty much screwed since 4.2.x as well, with poor quality and crackling. There's a massive google bug report thread on it, which actually looks like I've not got it as bad as a lot of people!
Where do you find the flashable bluetooth fix? Is it just for Nexus 7?
cyanogenmod 10.1/ 4.2.2 my nexus 7 is now a lot smoother than on 4.2.1!
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I use stock 4.2.2 with apex launcher and its the most fluent and rapid thing. Scrolling feels so good. I am new to nexus 7 and JB, but from what i have seen so far im loving it.
In terms of web browsing and performance in general its quite good. I had galaxy tab 2 7" before nexus and it just not match the smotherness and performance of the N7. Its impressive.
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Aside from almost having a stroke every time I rotate the screen, specifically on the lockscreen, mine is doing just fine.
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Aside from almost having a stroke every time I rotate the screen, specifically on the lockscreen, mine is doing just fine.
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Funny, i never use landscape. Only for media play, or some games that come landed by default.
Apart of that, i always use it 'phone-wise'.
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Is this possible? Not stock based ROM with some themes and tweaks but a full out port of a tab2 7".
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Is this possible? Not stock based ROM with some themes and tweaks but a full out port of a tab2 7".
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sure, if youre willing to work at it. but chances are it wont run perfectly. why would you want to downgrade your nexus 7 anyways?
Is there something about the Tab's version of Android that makes you want it over Google's? If it is something specific to the Tab from Samsung and not just an app the likelihood is it won't run right on the Nexus.
I had the chance to get a tab and I wanna see what the tab was like.
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Might try a touchwiz rom, I think that the tabs are over rated.
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Touchwiz rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038920&highlight=touchwiz
I know of the ROM with the launcher but it doesn't have all the features the tab has to offer. (Not trying to say the tab is better than the nexus because the nexus 7 is amazing)
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Part of what makes the N7 so much better than the Tab is that it has much better hardware and specs. Running the Tab's version of Android on the N7 (assuming you could) wouldn't tell you much about the Tab in terms of performance. It would be a useless comparison in that regard.
The only thing I would want to see from the tab 2 7inch is the tab ui launcher from its ics Rom, I always see the other launcher from jb ported but never the one that has tab ui
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I see threads like this in the forums of every device I've owned (and that's a few).
People want HTC sense on their Samsung's, Touchwiz on their HTC, or some other combination.
The only device I've ever seen it pulled off successfully was HTC sense on the nexus one and only because the HTC desire had identical internal hardware.
It's just way too much work as overlays like Sense, Touchwiz, and Motoblur are closed source. It's possible to reverse engineer them and get them working on different hardware but it's a huge amount of labour and the results would be poorly optimized and not very much fun to use if someone even did manage it.
Some people with tabs go to great effort to run pure Google on them and you have that out of the box so be grateful for what you have. The grass is always greener on the other side.
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I got my son a tab2 for Christmas and your not missing much. Sure its a nice tablet but I like my n7 better.
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I lived my nexus 7 on 4.1 but man 4.2 build is so bad. It is almost unusable to me. It is laggy and buggy with freezing all the time. Any suggestions on something very stable, close to stock? How is cyanogenmod? Ideas would be appreciated. Looking to root tomorrow I can't take this any longer.
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I find Smoothrom and motley kernel to provide a very stable and fast combination with excellent battery.
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I find Smoothrom and motley kernel to provide a very stable and fast combination with excellent battery.
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Ι tried that for a day, it was smooth and all but the battery life while idle was horrible.
Reverted to 4.1.2 stock, is there a way to get rid of the notification to update to 4.2 (without updating ofcourse)...
jlibis said:
I lived my nexus 7 on 4.1 but man 4.2 build is so bad. It is almost unusable to me. It is laggy and buggy with freezing all the time. Any suggestions on something very stable, close to stock? How is cyanogenmod? Ideas would be appreciated. Looking to root tomorrow I can't take this any longer.
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Strange how peoples experiences differ
I use stock rom 4.2 and never ever have any kind of lag or freezing of any kind - everything works 100% and buttersmooth constantly
I never have to reboot or anything, it just runs for months and not even once have I had any lag or problems
Try a 4.1 rom, CM 10.1 is your best bet, but im not familliar of this device roms.
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People have problems with 4.2 if they have old applications that are not updated for 4.2, don't clean their cache, or don't trim their storage.
Any complaints about battery life are due to applications requesting data synch or location. Those wake the Nexus up, and can be turned off.
4.2 is fine for me.
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I had similar issues in stock 4.2, tried about 3 others before settling on cm10.1, which runs smooth as can be for me with good battery life.
Seems like the these things are pretty finicky and everyone's handles different ROMs differently.
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I have not had good luck with aosp roms on my Nexus 7. I always end up back at cyanogenmod. Try fitsnugly's build.
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People have problems with 4.2 if they have old applications that are not updated for 4.2, don't clean their cache, or don't trim their storage.
Any complaints about battery life are due to applications requesting data synch or location. Those wake the Nexus up, and can be turned off.
4.2 is fine for me.
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You do realize not every device is the same. I keep good tabs on my devices. I would know if an application was causing the problem. I've factory reset the device and nothing has changed. Also I've heard from numerous people who have had problems like mine.
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I am looking for the same. I tried ParanoidAndroid but I kept getting into a boot loop. :/ I will probably try CM 10.1 next.
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I am looking for the same. I tried ParanoidAndroid but I kept getting into a boot loop. :/ I will probably try CM 10.1 next.
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Happened me to, and just factory reset
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I use rasbean and Franco kernel atm.
I have no reboots and no lag.
Paranoid android 2.54 (4.1.2) with Franco kernal
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On slim 4.1.2...stock kernel...no issues at all! Love it!
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I love sparksco's saber mod ROM (4.2.1). It's very smooth and has excellent battery life (10%/hr screen-on time + 10%/day). The supplied kernel is great but I prefer metallice's m-kernel.
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That's exactly why I finally decided to root and rom. I did like the 4.2 features so I was shooting for one that incorporated those (dual-sided notification bar, etc.)
Paranoid Android nailed it for me. It feels just like stock 4.2 but is wayyyy smoother, wayyyy less problematic and has a ton of customization options.
I gave cyanogenmod and a couple others a chance first but Paranoid Android definitely has my vote.
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I decided to go with AOKP and I am loving it. So much better than stock it's crazy. Like night and day difference.
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it hard to decide which is the better rom.
btw i'm using paranoid android+franco kernel
I Use the super Charged Series N7, although PRIME D01-25 is also good. Both are very smooth with great battery life, especially when using M-Kernel or motley.
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This is too funny...
If you have the latest version of jb and it is so bad you can barely use it than you need an RMA.. While it out may have some minor bugs I used it for a long time and loved it... I only switched to paranoid because I love the pie..
It sounds like a hyperbolic exaggeration to me. If not your device is faulty.. or you have some really bad apps messing things up..
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Just picked up a replacement One and it's on the original version. The thing is it seems snappier than my last phone on 4.3. I'm really debating NOT updating at all and see if 4.3 gets a maintenance update. Anyone agree that 4.1.2 was faster, smoother? opinions?
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You talking about stock Sense 4.3 or a specific rom?
They both feel the same to me. (I was on 4.1.2 and then switched to AOSP 4.3 and jsut came back to Sense 4.3)
Having had three replacement Ones and many android phones, I guarantee it'll slow down in time. Android always feels faster for the first few days. Call it placebo or maybe the systems data bases aren't populated yet, but 4.3 is just as fast as 4.1, if not more so.
I'm experiencing the opposite. 4.3 features mostly performance updates and most importantly, trim. At least for me personally 4.3 is performing much better
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How can you even tell with a phone like this...
Lets not forget that 4.3 came with the constant memory deletion feature if I'm correct. Where it's always cleaning up your drive~~
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4.3 is so much smoother and snappier than 4.1.2 was for me.
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I'm experiencing the opposite. 4.3 features mostly performance updates and most importantly, trim. At least for me personally 4.3 is performing much better
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Yeah feels faster for me. No more using that lagfix app to manually trim.
It feels faster to me but with 4.3 I have a host of Bluetooth issues
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Stock 4.1.2 Geekbench overall 2796
Stock 4.3 Geekbench overall 2932
Seems faster on 4.3 to me.
Only issue I've had so far on 4.3 is the Bluetooth Audio on phone calls seems to get static when I get more than a few feet away from the phone where as it used to seem to let me get further before I heard static, might just be my headset though, I break those things fairly quickly...
I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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I have a question. I have been reading about kitkat apps. It seems that particularly the web browser is pretty crap. Can anyone verify these comments? I don't know that it will be an issue, but I was curious if anyone here has any personal experience. If it's bad, I'll stay with 4.2.2 . Thanks.
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The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
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The launcher is just OK, it's really Google Now's version of a launcher with it built in. I found it be a little slow and very little customization. Fine for the masses who don't know any different (which are the majority of users, sadly). Nova destroys it all day long.
Far as KitKat goes, it all depends on the ROM and the device. Some ROMs are way behind and some are way ahead. I hate to say it but if CM11and SlimKat were all I had to choose from, I'd probably go back to 4.2. Yes CM is the foundation of all ROMs so I'm grateful it's around, but for KitKat they still have a long way to go, at least for S2. Same for SlimKat. Just too many issues. The unofficial ROMs are kicking major butt though. For the Exhibit, I'd stick with 4.2 for now although to be fair I haven't tried the newest KitKat ROMs available here lately. @jfbs is working hard to get you guys a stable 4.4 though!
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I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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I can easily install Nova again. It's the launcher I use now and I love it. Thanks for the advice. I am looking forward to @jfbs' rom. I was just eager to try kitkat because it was supposedly designed to work on phones like ours, where ram is at a premium. Initial reviews did say it ran much lighter, but I am not sure if it really makes a difference.
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Ultimately there is one truism I have found, functionality and speed are mainly hardware dependent. You can have the best ROM ever made in history but if the device doesn't have the hardware to back it up, it's useless. I booted the Exhibit for the first time in almost two weeks the other day and it was so much painfully slower than what I have now it isn't even funny. It reminded me how thankful I need to be that I have something else to be honest. A good KitKat ROM may help this device, IDK.
Yeah, the browser on Slimkat is all slow and FC's, even when you try to use a different browser than stock. With the other 4.4 ROMs we have I think you can just use a different browser if the stock has FC issues.
I stay using 4.2, since I can OC higher than 1012MHz and can swap the sd's.
FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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FC stands for force close? Thanks for the advice. I will stay with 4.2 for now. I will see what @jfbs comes up with.
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yeah, well thats what I think it means xD.
On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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On CM 11 opera browser works exceptionally well, Chrome was very slow to me.
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Opera was always faster for me as well and also works well when getting Edge and not 3or4g.
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Since there wasn't a thread made in the development forums I figured I'd start one here. Any success installing AOKP any bugs? Lets discuss it here.
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I'm on it. No issues so far, as there aren't many custom features yet.
Any sources for the AOKP nexus 5 edition?
I'm using my phone for gps to get home so I'm a bit scared to flash it. As soon as Im home I'm gonna take this baby for a spin. Definitely an awesome Christmas present.
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Feel nice to finally be able to run AOKP on hammerhead. Too bad its soo skinny for now. Guess I'll head back to cataclysm for now and wait for devs to fill the ROM with the goodies.
Ran into an issue of not being able to get root access. Anyone else able to reproduce?
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Aaand it's official.
http://aokp.co/blog/celebrate-this-christmas-with-kitkat#swaggababy
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small feature list:
statusbar brightness slider
wake up on charge
customizeable hardware keys
volume smash rotation
usb debugging notify
show IME switcher
toggles - style, setup, order
app permissions
advanced powerbutton menu
build in superuser
themes
so far so good
Can anyone with a chromecast confirm that when you try to cast from Google play movies app its causes a soft reboot? All other apps work fine, not sure if its ROM related or not. So far its running great.
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Official thread up ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2585951
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Can anyone with a chromecast confirm that when you try to cast from Google play movies app its causes a soft reboot? All other apps work fine, not sure if its ROM related or not. So far its running great.
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Same here
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Same here
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Hopefully it gets addressed soon. Had to use my laptop to cast it and its kinda inconvenient lol. Otherwise I'm loving aokp as usual.
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Big fan of AOKP ... I ran this rom on my N5 for about 12 hours without any issues. I did not try chromecast though so I can't speak to that issue as others have brought up.
I jumped back to beanstalk for now, but will likely come back to AOKP when more bells are added.
you have to try dirty unicorns, its tottallyyyyy awesoommmmeeee!!
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aokp_hammerhead_kitkat_nightly_2013-12-30.zip is up
Haven't tried it myself but some of the comments in the development thread suggest that chromecast bugs are a thing of the past as well as some other bugs.
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