Hardware hacking? - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has there been any attempt at hardware hacking the Nook HD+ ?
I just bought mine on Monday, roooted stock and Im loving it but I hate the 30pin proprietary connector.
What I would like is a small dongle, the size of the hdmi adapter, that has a female mini or micro usb coming out the side for OTA. Or maybe one on either side for OTA and charge or OTA and microSD.
Are the pinouts of the stock connector available? I could get a stock cable and experament with it.
Cen5
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CenturionFive said:
Has there been any attempt at hardware hacking the Nook HD+ ?
I just bought mine on Monday, roooted stock and Im loving it but I hate the 30pin proprietary connector.
What I would like is a small dongle, the size of the hdmi adapter, that has a female mini or micro usb coming out the side for OTA. Or maybe one on either side for OTA and charge or OTA and microSD.
Are the pinouts of the stock connector available? I could get a stock cable and experament with it.
Cen5
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Actually not much done on hardware side if we leaving out FCC official HD+ teardown flying over the net and my teardown. But i can say that my this testing item still half opened and i can make "animal testing"

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Standard usb port adapter

Where is this at for the tab. Has anyone found it yet. I dont know if maybe froyo does not support the usb host mode needed or what. I saw that it was comming and yet cannot seem to find it. It was supposed to plug into the data port on the tab and give you the ability to attatch regular usb peripherals.
Any info is greatly appreciated
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FWIW I saw a USB dock at Home Plus (Tesco for you guys in the UK) the other day for 29,000 KRW. Although I can't be sure, it appeared to be just a USB only dock but it looked like the HDMI dock recently reviewed on here.
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I havnt seen it yet!
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you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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That's not entirely true. Most android builds don't have the necessary usb host support as part of the kernel, but there's nothing to prevent someone from compiling it or adding it in as a module. The Tab is/was supposed to do this OOTB, and based on the pinout information posted elsewhere, there is at least kernel support for determining if host mode should be enabled. With a modified iPod connector from Sparkfun I was able to get the Tab's AccessoryManager process (I think that's what it was called) to see a non-supported device plugged in (externally-powered USB hard drive enclosure), even if it couldn't enumerate it. It could be because I didn't connect the requisite +5V for downstream devices, or because there is no usb_storage module available. More testing needs to be done on this before we write it off completely. Hopefully Samsung will just release their solution(s) sooner than later.
That is what I wish they would do. But im afraid with the tab10.1 it may be put on the back burner
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How did you modify the ipod connector? I have a few ipod/iphone cables lying around but they seem backwards compared to the sgt connector and difficult to modify.
I'm thinking about buying some sgt connectors or cables from china to play with.
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Unfortunately I could not find a supplier of the "mirrored" iPod connectors that the SGT uses. I contacted many China-based component mfgs and none could point me in the right direction for that stupid dock connector. So I got the iPod one from SparkFun, used an xacto knife and small file to grind off the material on either side of the connector that keys it into the mating iPod connector. This allows you to invert it and plug it into the SGT, which then gives you access to all 30 pins. The cheap charging/sync cables that you can get from ebay and the likes only come with 5-7 pins connected, and the rest missing.
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you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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you know what sucks? I had a $100 haipad that had a microusb jack and came with a 6" adapter cable. guess what? you could plug in usb sticks, a usb mouse, or a usb keyboard. worked perfectly. mouse had a pointer, keyboard worked without a popup, it was all quite magical.
that was on a 2.1 resistive touchscreen chinese tablet.
why the hell can't the tab to this?

Best OTG?

Can anyone recommend a decent USB OTG that hangs down the side of the nexus 10 rather than sticks out?
Preferably one they've proven to work with an N10.
I appear to have lost my Samsung one I was hoping to use.
Thank you.
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I have this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GI2VMG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Works perfectly with my thumb drives and external hdd. Not only does it work, but the price was unbeatable.
Don't buy one of those $10+ cables as it does the same exact thing as this one.
I might add, you could possibly look into getting one that can charge the device at the same time it's using an external storage device. Unless you're okay with it.
Stickmount works with root on my devices
Nexus Media Importer works without root on my devices
GNex and N10.
Hope this helps!
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
sunoryjim said:
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
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Can you still get to the headphone jack with that cable?
Is there any long (length wise) USB OTG Cable?
So I can just keep the flash drive or external drive in my messenger bag and use my phone or tablet LOL.
Also will USB 3.0 work with the devices?
Lumsdoni said:
Can anyone recommend a decent USB OTG that hangs down the side of the nexus 10 rather than sticks out?
Preferably one they've proven to work with an N10.
I appear to have lost my Samsung one I was hoping to use.
Thank you.
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I bought both of these. Both connect with the larger portion of the USB connector towards the screen so they hang down the side of the tablet:
SANOXY Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable - The connector for this one was flipped from the picture and hangs down the side of my N10.
eForCity Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter - This one came just like it was pictured.
Both came from Hong Kong which took about 2 weeks in the mail however they cost just around $1.00 each and with free shipping not much to lose.
I use mine with a elago Mobile Nano II USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader and a 32GB card (my 64GB is in my S3). With the adapter in the OTG cable it barely hangs out the bottom and makes it very compact.
I have 2 kinds of OTG cables here, both working perfectly fine with my Galaxy Nexus. However on Nexus 10 when I connect a USB device to the OTG (or connect the OTG cable with a USB device already plugged in) the tablet turns off completly and I have to remove the OTG to be able to start it again.
OK -- Sorry to resurrect a glue'd horse, but does anyone have a link for one that ALWAYS ships the correctly sized (read not too long) OTG adapter? I've already ordered two of the OTG adapters through Amazon but they BOTH have too long of a connector and it basically sits loose in any device. Very lame.
bschrib said:
OK -- Sorry to resurrect a glue'd horse, but does anyone have a link for one that ALWAYS ships the correctly sized (read not too long) OTG adapter? I've already ordered two of the OTG adapters through Amazon but they BOTH have too long of a connector and it basically sits loose in any device. Very lame.
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I'm looking for one as well. The cheap ones from eBay are too long. They work but the connection is loose. Do NOT buy the ones linked below.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=300803544652
I bought THIS one from monoprice for $1.43 last week its on its way...ill report back when it arrives. Monoprice stuff is usually pretty good quality, hoping it is nice and secure
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
Has anyone tried this? Says it will work with the Nexus 7 so I'm assuming the 10 as well? Would be nice to have all in one.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
Has anyone tried this? Says it will work with the Nexus 7 so I'm assuming the 10 as well? Would be nice to have all in one.
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Just an FYI I e-mailed Juiced Systems to see if this would work with the Nexus 10. Their response is below:
The adapter should work with 4 out of the 5 functions for the Nexus 10(MHL maybe not). I have yet to test it out personally. This is something we will test soon and will post online. The nexus 10 does have an HDMI mini port built into it already. If MHL doesn't work that is because google did not think it was necessary to make it MHL capable when it has an HDMI mini port. The Nexus 7 is not MHL capable either, not sure why they chose to do that. I will keep you posted once the nexus 10 testing comes back.
Thank you
sunoryjim said:
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
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confirming this one works, and its a really great fit, nice and tight not like the loose too long one.thanks for the link.
productofusa said:
confirming this one works, and its a really great fit, nice and tight not like the loose too long one.thanks for the link.
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Can you still access the headphone jack with this OTG cable?
Can anyone tell me how an OTG cable can be better than another except of the price/length/design ??
Isn't that micro USB to USB cable just a normal cable connecting 5 pins which are either in a bigger or a smaller plug?
Why should such a cable not work (except of the situation that the cable is damaged)?
xeTaiz said:
Can anyone tell me how an OTG cable can be better than another except of the price/length/design ??
Isn't that micro USB to USB cable just a normal cable connecting 5 pins which are either in a bigger or a smaller plug?
Why should such a cable not work (except of the situation that the cable is damaged)?
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I watched a video on how to make your own, if it was correct, they stated that one pin was unused and when it is connected to chassis ground tells the device to go into OTG mode.
So this OTG cable is not just connecting each pin? It's not just an adapter?
Okay then, good to know, thank you
lexlucas said:
Can you still access the headphone jack with this OTG cable?
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If you took a razor knife to the strain relief part it would work, as it is you can stress it out of the way enough to fit a headphone jack but it puts a bit too much pressure on the USB port for my liking try it they're cheap!
i see most are using ones with a cable, is there an issue with ones like these?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronic...l?recSet=4e4a53cb-bea5-4a2e-aec6-88ea05c24288
http://www.ebay.com/itm/90d-right-A...160919848094?ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:SG:3160
I got 2 of this, works pretty well and sits close to the side of the tablet.
Only 2 issues, the connector itself is long so it's a little loose and it will block the earphone jack.

HD/HD+ usb host cable

Due to proprietary port used in Nook HD/HD+, standart usb host cable does not fit.
Did anybody seen anywhere Nook HD/HD+ port <-> Usb Female cable?
I need such cable to attach keyboard/flash/... to my Nook.
I'm looking for the same thing, no luck so far. Anyone find anything?
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its not looking hopeful but i'd also like an otg usb cable for the hd+. i want to hook it up to a DSLR,
There is a chance to have mode switching via software and use female to female adapter with stock usb cable
fanoush said:
There is a chance to have mode switching via software and use female to female adapter with stock usb cable
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Is mode switching developed on a per hardware basis, or is there a general app that will work on the hd+? I think its per device . Guessing no one else has made any headway with OTG yet?
I'm sorry, I was wrong with previous post (deleted)
here's full info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307585
Unable to get usb Nook Hd + to recognize any usb input
I downloaded the zip mentioned in the first post. Previously I was on a hybrid version from Android for Nook of 4.1.2
I have tried mounting with chainfire and nexus media importer but not seeing any drives. I have tried two different flash drives a mouse and a ps3 controller with powered usb hub. None of the devices have been detected.
I have gotten usb otg to work for a nexus 7 so I'm not a total noob. But far from expert as I can't get usb otg for my htc evo 4g lte.
Under settings it showing the custom rom that you linked here.
However I may have installed incorrectly as I can no longer get into Nook mode. Only Android mode seems to work now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I downloaded the zip mentioned in the first post. Previously I was on a hybrid version from Android for Nook of 4.1.2
I have tried mounting with chainfire and nexus media importer but not seeing any drives. I have tried two different flash drives a mouse and a ps3 controller with powered usb hub. None of the devices have been detected.
I have gotten usb otg to work for a nexus 7 so I'm not a total noob. But far from expert as I can't get usb otg for my htc evo 4g lte.
Under settings it showing the custom rom that you linked here.
However I may have installed incorrectly as I can no longer get into Nook mode. Only Android mode seems to work now. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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If you installed the version linked in the referenced post above and it said ...emmc.zip in the name, you installed it to internal memory replacing the stock Nook HD+ OS.
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USB 2.0 A Female to A Female Coupler Adapter
I use the adapter from Monoprice dot com > USB 2.0 A Female to A Female Coupler Adapter Product ID 362
tested it with a microsoft laser mouse usb
Layout
I have a few extra Nook HD/(+) cables and am thinking about doing some wiring. Anyone have a pin layout of the Nook HD plug, so I don't have to tear it apart? Or are they using standard USB wiring once it leaves their proprietary connector?
mashjet said:
I have a few extra Nook HD/(+) cables and am thinking about doing some wiring. Anyone have a pin layout of the Nook HD plug, so I don't have to tear it apart? Or are they using standard USB wiring once it leaves their proprietary connector?
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i am not the most skilled in this area but i am also looking for documentation on the pinning. i am thinking if the whole connector is actually connecting (can use all pins) we can do a lot more than just otg this could allow powering of the tab and data at the same time, possibly with a custom rom and hardware permitting display out with power and data all at once. but thats being super hopeful haha
mromutt said:
i am not the most skilled in this area but i am also looking for documentation on the pinning. i am thinking if the whole connector is actually connecting (can use all pins) we can do a lot more than just otg this could allow powering of the tab and data at the same time, possibly with a custom rom and hardware permitting display out with power and data all at once. but thats being super hopeful haha
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If you search, someone previously listed the pin-out.
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leapinlar said:
If you search, someone previously listed the pin-out.
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ah thank you for the heads up, i also read that someone found the hdmi pinning (probably took apart that hdmi adapter) as well but no pinout was shown :/ but hey that means were getting closer!

USB hosting?

I realize since its 4.0+ it should, but I haven't heard anything concrete one way or the other.
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I think ICS has the support, but the connection will be an issue. Impedance due to the cable size will likely create minimum power threshold issues.
Is there a shorter cable, or other connector option? This ties into my review concern of the proprietary connector.
Yea, I was thinking about that connector as well. I could use bluetooth I suppose, but I've found that things just seem to work better for me when I can plug it in.
I do have a micro to standard usb cable. Now that I think about it, I should try that with my fire hd.
My wife is giving me crap about wanting the hd+ after I saw the mothers day sale on it, she says the old nook color is still working fine...
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[Q] Charging and Ports on the Nook

Hi all,
I purchased a used Nook HD+, and have already began reading threads here about how to root it, etc. I have rooted my last two HTC phones with help from XDA, so look forward to being part of this Nook community as well.
My Nook is still in transit right now, but I already know it is missing the charger and cable, so I'm trying to determine whether I need to purchase replacements, or whether I could use standard micro-USB cables and phone chargers. I see an HDMI port listed as being on the Nook, but does it have micro-USB as well? Like I said, mine is still in transit, so I can't look myself. Any idea if a standard Android phone charger would suffice? If I need a dedicated/proprietary charger and cable, I wanted to go ahead and order them even though my Nook hasn't arrived yet.
I appreciate any help. TIA
It does not have a standard microUSB port. It uses a proprietary connector and charger. Look in the accessories forum to see sources.
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It does not have a standard microUSB port. It uses a proprietary connector and charger. Look in the accessories forum to see sources.
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Thanks. I had forgotten there was a B&N store nearby, so I actually went in today at lunch and was able to check one out in person. The plug is reminiscent of an iPod/iPhone. I usually shop on eBay for cables and chargers, so will probably go that route.
jdjohn said:
Thanks. I had forgotten there was a B&N store nearby, so I actually went in today at lunch and was able to check one out in person. The plug is reminiscent of an iPod/iPhone. I usually shop on eBay for cables and chargers, so will probably go that route.
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The problem is the nook HD/+ is NOT compatible with iPhone accessories.
Goggles2114 said:
The problem is the nook HD/+ is NOT compatible with iPhone accessories.
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Understood...just making a comparison
B&N online has charger and cable on sale, fits hd and hd+
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