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To root or not to root

Does anyone understand or have any more information about the DRM restrictions if you root your device.
Are the DRM restrictions built into some apps or into Android itself? It would be terrible to pay for content and then to loose access to it, because someone uses some intelligence' by rooting their device.
If I root my Nexus 7, will I be prevented from accessing the material which i've purchased.
Is there a workaround for this ?
I saw a comment from a 'rootKepper' type app which summons this up well :
"Vote with your dollars: Don't accept being a customer of companies restricting your freedom with defective and and inefficient technical measures."
Cheers

I've rooted (but still on stock) and not have come across any apps that have restricted my access of using them because I was rooted. If worse comes to worse you can just unroot your device to use the app.
What would be sweet though is if you can sorta "hide" root and then make it only visible for a specific app that you want to use that uses root access.

jonnyg1097 said:
I've rooted (but still on stock) and not have come across any apps that have restricted my access of using them because I was rooted. If worse comes to worse you can just unroot your device to use the app.
What would be sweet though is if you can sorta "hide" root and then make it only visible for a specific app that you want to use that uses root access.
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Cool thanks for sharing your experience. I feel motivated to give it a go.

I've never had the need to "hide" root, but I'm pretty sure that Voodoo OTA Rootkeper offers this exact functionality.

nyijedi said:
I've never had the need to "hide" root, but I'm pretty sure that Voodoo OTA Rootkeper offers this exact functionality.
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Oh neither have I but now that I am thinking about it, I remember CynogenMod having a feature once upon a time (I havent flashed a rom of theirs in a while so I dont know if they still have it) but they were able to turn root off and on in the settings I guess maybe for situations like this.

Never faced any DRM issue on any unrooted device. Both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 are rooted and never faced any problem. Reason? Because this problem does not exist. I remember Google Play movies used to complain about rooted device and it does not play movie on rooted device but it has changed since version 2.09c and we are on version 2.21 now. Google has officially stopped caring about root and now they rather support the root and hacking.
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root to get the washed out screen gone
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I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
I think the only thing that you won't be able to do is rent movies with a rooted phone. Doesn't it block you if your rooted?
Also sharp2G, what did you use to change the screen? Trinity app?

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I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
I think the only thing that you won't be able to do is rent movies with a rooted phone. Doesn't it block you if your rooted?
Also sharp2G, what did you use to change the screen? Trinity app?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818278

saadi703 said:
Never faced any DRM issue on any unrooted device. Both my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 7 are rooted and never faced any problem. Reason? Because this problem does not exist. I remember Google Play movies used to complain about rooted device and it does not play movie on rooted device but it has changed since version 2.09c and we are on version 2.21 now. Google has officially stopped caring about root and now they rather support the root and hacking.
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This. I've had 5 rooted devices over the course of three years and six Android versions (2.2 to 4.2) and I've only encountered one app that I can remember (Google play movies) that didn't work with root.

sharp2G said:
root to get the washed out screen gone
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Me too. It is awesome work done by the Dev. I can't thank him enough. It was one of major turn offs whenever I use the device. Now it works and looks awesome without much hit to the battery.
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brando56894 said:
This. I've had 5 rooted devices over the course of three years and six Android versions (2.2 to 4.2) and I've only encountered one app that I can remember (Google play movies) that didn't work with root.
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Now it works
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player911 said:
I rooted just because the process requires you to wipe your device completely (even SD card data). So better do it ASAP then later and fight moving data.
Root is just admin rights with regards to the file system. Having Root access allows you to backup system files (App data) using awesome backup programs like Titanium Backup and DataSync. Having root also allows custom recoveries to be installed with apps like ClockWorkMod and Goo.IM
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Actually. You don't need to be rooted to backup app data anymore.
The latest SDK from Google allows you to use a backup command to backup your app data and settings as well as restore them. No root required. It will even encrypt your backup as well if you want.
I for one am glad to see Google implementing this feature. It's about time.

dellenrules said:
Actually. You don't need to be rooted to backup app data anymore.
The latest SDK from Google allows you to use a backup command to backup your app data and settings as well as restore them. No root required. It will even encrypt your backup as well if you want.
I for one am glad to see Google implementing this feature. It's about time.
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Could you point me to instructions for this? Thanks!
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I rooted but refuse to change ROMs. Stock ROM is excellent.
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tribestros said:
I rooted but refuse to change ROMs. Stock ROM is excellent.
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Just curious as to why root then? I too love stock JB but it feels so weird to me to not be rooted. I feel like stock has everything I need though. Just wondering what things you needed to be root for if your running the stock ROM. I'd be interested!
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TheIowaKid said:
Just curious as to why root then? I too love stock JB but it feels so weird to me to not be rooted. I feel like stock has everything I need though. Just wondering what things you needed to be root for if your running the stock ROM. I'd be interested!
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Titanium Backup, USB OTG, changing to tablet UI, etc.

Root!
Root! It has great expansion options for your tablet. When you root, try using ModaCo's ROM and see how little things change. When you are done using and learn a little more about rooting and the abilities that it enforces you to use, switch over to moles Parandroid ROM. Its great and requires a little bit more expertise in the rooting world, but before you know it you will be an expert!
Cheers,
Vanka

Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but Skype did give me some sort of a message about not running on modified versions of android, but it worked anyway. Running stock ROM, trinity kernel in tablet ui.
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What does tablet ui mean ? Is it about changing the screen density to a certain setting or is there more to it ?

saadi703 said:
Me too. It is awesome work done by the Dev. I can't thank him enough. It was one of major turn offs whenever I use the device. Now it works and looks awesome without much hit to the battery.
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Now it works
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Could you please point me to the thread for this rom or rooted app?
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New owner chiming in!

Hey! Just got mine over the weekend, and spent four freaking hours trying to root it using the toolkit before giving up and using ADB *shudders*
Why is it so hard to root this thing compared to the SGS3?

Not sure if trolling or really dumb
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I think I spent more time Googling how to root mine than actually rooting it.

Take me just 10 min to do my nexus 7 and 5 min for my galaxy s 2 t989
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davisac said:
I think I spent more time Googling how to root mine than actually rooting it.
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Lol exactly. Spent an hour or two doing my homework before I received it but only took me 10 minutes to root
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I spent quite a bit of time researching the best way to root my N7 before I actually did it. I bricked my HP Touchpad when I hacked it to put Android on it and it took me a while to fix it. I didn't want to go through that again with my primary tablet, the Touchpad was just an impulse buy when the dropped the price.
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I am waiting to root no reason to root just yet.
DEVICES:
NEXUS 7 32GB STOCK
(NO ROOT)
T-MOBIL LG G2X (LG-P999)
STOCK (ROOTED)
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sammy.sung.me.a.song said:
Hey! Just got mine over the weekend, and spent four freaking hours trying to root it using the toolkit before giving up and using ADB *shudders*
Why is it so hard to root this thing compared to the SGS3?
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fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash the su binaries or a custom rom in your new recovery, then reboot and profit.
i still havent figured out what part of that is hard

simms22 said:
fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash a custom recovery, flash the su binaries or a custom rom in your new recovery, then reboot and profit.
i still havent figured out what part of that is hard
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I've said this before and I'll say it again... drivers.
Once you get past that, yea the rest is easy. Not sure if the OP is my bud but I just walked my friend through a long driver horror fest known as rooting the N7.
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player911 said:
I've said this before and I'll say it again... drivers.
Once you get past that, yea the rest is easy. Not sure if the OP is my bud but I just walked my friend through a long driver horror fest known as rooting the N7.
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Agreed, drivers are the hardest part, be it the 7 or galaxy nexus. Windows finds the drivers that don't work with adb, then I ended up spending at least a half hour per device finding the correct ones and installing them. The actual act of unlocking it was a two minute process.
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player911 said:
I've said this before and I'll say it again... drivers.
Once you get past that, yea the rest is easy. Not sure if the OP is my bud but I just walked my friend through a long driver horror fest known as rooting the N7.
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VonEsch said:
Agreed, drivers are the hardest part, be it the 7 or galaxy nexus. Windows finds the drivers that don't work with adb, then I ended up spending at least a half hour per device finding the correct ones and installing them. The actual act of unlocking it was a two minute process.
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several years ago i used the download from the pdanet site to install the drivers for my nexus s onto my work computer. since then they worked for an og droid, my galaxy nexus, and two nexus 7. pdanet is a tethering program for android. if you do the free download on its site( http://junefabrics.com/android/ ), install it on your desktop, then follow the onscreen instructions, itll install the right drivers for you. it takes about 10 minutes.

I used pda net to get drivers into my computer to root my Nexus S.
Will these drivers work for the Nexus 7?
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sammy.sung.me.a.song said:
Hey! Just got mine over the weekend, and spent four freaking hours trying to root it using the toolkit before giving up and using ADB *shudders*
Why is it so hard to root this thing compared to the SGS3?
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It's not.
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
(enter recovery)
adb sideload superuser.zip
adb reboot

I thought Wug's toolkit made it easy, even installing the drivers. I've used adb since to root my girlfriend's Nexus 7. Both processes are easy on the N7 compared to some devices, from what I've heard.
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Hi guys!

Hey everyone, I'm new to the Nexus 7 forum. Coming from my LG Optimus L9 which is my daily phone. We have a very long winded rooting and bootloader unlock method for the L9 so it will be a relief to come to a straight forward Google device.
This may have been already asked but which method of rooting is best for my nexus 7 32gb WiFi. I took a look at the ROM toolbox kit, is that the best way of rooting? Also, which custom ROM / kernel combo should I go for after rooting + CWM? I'm looking for a stable ROM with a good battery life. I use this device mainly for web browsing and video streaming. Maybe some light gaming now and then. But my main need is longevity from the battery.
Thanks for taking the time to read and I look forward to joining this nexus community!
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donk165 said:
Hey everyone, I'm new to the Nexus 7 forum. Coming from my LG Optimus L9 which is my daily phone. We have a very long winded rooting and bootloader unlock method for the L9 so it will be a relief to come to a straight forward Google device.
This may have been already asked but which method of rooting is best for my nexus 7 32gb WiFi. I took a look at the ROM toolbox kit, is that the best way of rooting? Also, which custom ROM / kernel combo should I go for after rooting + CWM? I'm looking for a stable ROM with a good battery life. I use this device mainly for web browsing and video streaming. Maybe some light gaming now and then. But my main need is longevity from the battery.
Thanks for taking the time to read and I look forward to joining this nexus community!
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If you are not sure what to do exactly I would download one of the toolkits in the dev forums, they are the easiest way to do anything, simple 1 click actions for rooting as well as installing custom recovery, also as a personal preference id go with TWRP instead of CWM but thats just me. And in terms of a ROM/ kenrel thats all down to personal choice, try some out and see what you like but if you want a guarantee of some sorts just go with CM 10.1 in the Original Dev forum, go with the latest RC release.

I would agree with one of the Nexus toolkits. Though I've rooted other phones and tablets before I used Wugfresh's to unlock and root my Nexus 7. It was works like a charm.
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Wug's toolkit is all you will need. Donate to the man, too. He deserves it, and his toolkit has saved my N7 more times than I care to remember.

Wugfresh Toolkit all the way.
And since its Google Device you will be rooted in matter of few minutes. =)
And don't forget to backup your data.

For ROM and kernel combo I use vanir ROM (tru speed or prime) and I've been using m-kernel but recently moved to the latest experimental builds of Franco kernel.
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Don't use a toolkit. Learn by doing. Hence do it yourself.
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spitfire2425 said:
Don't use a toolkit. Learn by doing. Hence do it yourself.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with using a toolkit for your first go around. At least that way, you can make a backup in case something goes wrong, and then if you ever take an OTA or such by mistake you will be more familiar with adb (if you're doing anything in recovery) and fastboot. With Nexus devices though, "learn by doing" really isn't as bad as it is for others...
*mutter mutter Galaxy Player 4*

spitfire2425 said:
Don't use a toolkit. Learn by doing. Hence do it yourself.
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You want him to commit suicide...??? What's wrong with you man...!!!!!!!!!!

Samsung - SM-G730A

Hello everyone, I just wanted to know is there any development currently done for the Samsung Galaxy Slll mini SM-G730A.
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I really feel disappointed to see that there is only one root method for this device and there is no CWM recovery or TWRP, This device don't even have Dowload Mode, How I'm going to flash a custom rom??? i have several devices all of them rooted running custom roms, and this is the newest and the worst since i can't make any modifications :what::banghead:
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alexischino said:
I really feel disappointed to see that there is only one root method for this device and there is no CWM recovery or TWRP, This device don't even have Dowload Mode, How I'm going to flash a custom rom??? i have several devices all of them rooted running custom roms, and this is the newest and the worst since i can't make any modifications :what::banghead:
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If you want it so bad then why don't you try to make it happen?
Since there is root, it shouldn't be impossible to start by dumping partitions and share them to make it available for whoever want's to take a look at it.

tys0n said:
If you want it so bad then why don't you try to make it happen?
Since there is root, it shouldn't be impossible to start by dumping partitions and share them to make it available for whoever want's to take a look at it.
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I totally forgot about that,once I get my new laptop i will start right away to post the partitions dump files, thanks for the heads up.
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i posted the partitions in my root thread.. and there is download mode get quick boot pro and you can get to it..
also i was going to work on a recovery but the website that builds them has been down. and I dont really want to configure a whole fedora box and start from there.

this is really strange! i try the 3 button combo when I get this phone and didn't work but I try again today and yes it has the (download mode) and the (3e recovery) :what:
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I have a G730A and I want CyanogenMod 10.2. I am willing to help develop and test. I have very basic programming skills, and some Linux skills (currently do not have Linux installed though). If I am told what to do I can research how to do it and get it done. I just need instructions.
And if having linux is going to make it way easier, I can install it. I prefer Ubuntu but I can work with Fedora.

New Nexus 7 asking for system update permission

Hi. I just got my nexus 7 v.4.3 and it tells me to system update. Should I just proceed, will I get more difficulty rooting etc. ?
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Clawsman said:
Hi. I just got my nexus 7 v.4.3 and it tells me to system update. Should I just proceed, will I get more difficulty rooting etc. ?
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It will not alter rooting via the easiest method - bootloader unlock (using fastboot manually or a toolkit).
But, the more time you invest in customizing your tablet, the more "painful" rooting will be, as unlocking the bootloader completely wipes all of your data and customizations.
good luck. read before you leap.

Do the OTA right now, go ahead and unlock while it's new and you haven't installed a bunch of stuff, then you can root any time when you're comfortable with it.