Hey Gang
So I've been here since the release of the O2X, watched devs come, devs go, following the ICS thread with the 5000000000+ pages and posts, the LG hate, the drama, all that jazz.
I just purchased the Nexus 4 and will be moving along, I'll still check in now and then to check up on the ubuntu dev. (Thanks Ruggles).
Just wanted to say thank you all, a great community, very helpful, very kind (at times *snicker*), I've learned a lot about android and developing through you guys and through my o2x, I'll keep it as long as it's still functional!
Have a continued great weekend, and never forget the XDA spirit
Kind Regards
Neefy
Ses.
Good luck with your nexus 4
your right this is a awesome community with lots of helpfull people
but one question though, was the nexus 4 expensive, as it is Scandinavia ?
FettleifIsMyUserName said:
Good luck with your nexus 4
your right this is a awesome community with lots of helpfull people
but one question though, was the nexus 4 expensive, as it is Scandinavia ?
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It was VERY expensive (approx. double price compared to the UK), but I just HAD to own it, also since I knew a lot of my familiars from the o2x family moved over there (owain, harsh, etc.)
Might follow you soon, don't like O2x anymore... Just waiting for the new batch of N4 here
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Might follow you soon, don't like O2x anymore... Just waiting for the new batch of N4 here
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You guy are so lucky, in my contry a Nexus 4 is over 750 $
And goodbye Neef, from now on you don't need to wait for update from LG :good:
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You guy are so lucky, in my contry a Nexus 4 is over 400 $
And goodbye Neef, from now on you don't need to wait for update from LG :good:
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It costs around 700 usd here in Denmark and only one courier has it haha
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its really expensive here in norway as well, its about 3700 kr here in Norway, thats about 650 us dollars, so u can say its quite expensive here in Scandinavia i kinda want one myself now, but went for a windows phone
FettleifIsMyUserName said:
its really expensive here in norway as well, its about 3700 kr here in Norway, thats about 650 us dollars, so u can say its quite expensive here in Scandinavia i kinda want one myself now, but went for a windows phone
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That's pretty much what I gave for it
Good luck with your new nexus
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It costs around 700 usd here in Denmark and only one courier has it haha
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Oh I'm sorry, I't cost 650 $ in my country :laugh: Some mistake with Currency Convert :cyclops:
I think i would buy one in USA ( my friend live in USA ) and bring it to my country :laugh:
Bye.
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someone on craigslist selling it.
is it worth it a buy??
what reservations do you have? i would almost pay another 500 for another one.
eric b
Thanks .so I guess ill take it.
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Yeah I'd pay that price easily. Nexus one is still my phone of choice if that can be believed. Just check that its in decent condition.
I paid $325 for mine. Totally worth every penny.
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to clear the air, i wasn't trying to be a jerk op. i think that's a hell of deal! what service provider?
eric b
e-dub said:
to clear the air, i wasn't trying to be a jerk op. i think that's a hell of deal! what service provider?
eric b
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tmobile and im on tmobile so yea..i just got the phone and its like so brand new!
no scratch at all.
enjoy it, man, i ordered my at+t nexus one the day it was made available at 8.30am and i've been honeymooning since the day i got it. welcome to the wonderful world of the nex luthor!
eric b
e-dub said:
enjoy it, man, i ordered my at+t nexus one the day it was made available at 8.30am and i've been honeymooning since the day i got it. welcome to the wonderful world of the nex luthor!
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yeh bro... thanks..
Good deal!
Great buy! Enjoy your new toy!
If you live in Switzerland and you´re interested in buying the new N4, you may have heard that it won´t be available here. So "Android Schweiz" made a petition to say Google, that also Swiss people want to buy a N4.
So if you want to buy the N4 (and I know you want ) go ahead and join the petition:
http://www.android-schweiz.ch/2012-10-31/online-petition-wir-wollen-das-nexus-4-in-der-schweiz/
Thank you very much.
Petition Participants
There are already 1008 petiton participants.
But we need more...
1056
the lack of italian (or even english!) translations is sadly not surprising..
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1056
the lack of italian (or even english!) translations is sadly not surprising..
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Yeah, I know. They should have made this better so there would be more participants...
I signed.
I want the Nexus, but I'm Swiss -____-
Singed it, too! But I don't think it's going to help ... probably buying it via digitec ...
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Singed it, too! But I don't think it's going Tod help ... probably buying it via digitec ...
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Well, Digitec is the usual choice..
I fear they will not sell it at Play Store price but at LG price (I suppose double?)
If that will be the case, I'll simply buy one from another country.
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Well, Digitec is the usual choice..
I fear they will not sell it at Play Store price but at LG price (I suppose double?)
If that will be the case, I'll simply buy one from another country.
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im gonna buy it in UK on O2 since i cant buy it in my country :/
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i also signed it but i fear that this means nothing...
Probably Digitec will sell it at the LG price ... ~600 CHF
I live in Geneva, France in 5 min driving from me. Many Swiss from Geneva area actually live in France, it's cheaper. So I will ask a friend who lives over the border to get one for me in the French Play store. As simple as that.
OK so to add to the Saga of f**k ups by Google, Managed to order 2 phones (one for me and one for my brother) ordered 2x16gb and received 2x8gb. Rang Google to play hell with them and they basically told me that I either return them and wait up to 4 weeks for stock to come in or take the hit and pay £279 for 8gb. This is totally unacceptable but what else can I do?? I sold my S3 when i got my order accepted. :crying:
Ricey
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thats sucks! well if i were you, i would just send it back and get the 16! and from then till now just use a chippie phone until it arrives... but what an inconvinience
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Aw poor thing you. So they were obviously out of 16gb and possibly gave you 2x 8 GB with which many people would have been happy with and would not have to wait weeks. Spoiled brat. Go sell each for 500$ on ebay
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You're calling him spoiled?
If he bought something and it isn't what he received, he has every right to claim it.
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Aw poor thing you. So they were obviously out of 16gb and possibly gave you 2x 8 GB with which many people would have been happy with and would not have to wait weeks. Spoiled brat. Go sell each for 500$ on ebay
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I would be happy taking the 8gb version if they would credit the difference but they wont.
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Aw poor thing you. So they were obviously out of 16gb and possibly gave you 2x 8 GB with which many people would have been happy with and would not have to wait weeks. Spoiled brat. Go sell each for 500$ on ebay
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^^^^ Flip them on ebay and wait for google to replenish their stock. You'll come out WINNING.:good:
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You're calling him spoiled?
If he bought something and it isn't what he received, he has every right to claim it.
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I'm just annoyed by all these whiny people. What he has there is profit. Just sell it on ebay and wait a month. Sure he has every right to return it. But with such a high demand for this device and the chances being high that he maybe wouldn't have gotten the 16 GB he could make the best out of it done returning it will have him waiting.
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More stock is coming in 4 weeks? That's depressing.
I have ZERO sympathy for people who ordered after selling their only phones.... You had plenty of time to save up and pay outright...
I have my trusty one x which I don't even know if I'm gonna sell now due to the mixed reviews...
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I would be happy taking the 8gb version if they would credit the difference but they wont.
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If this truly is the case then yes, I would be extremely angry. You paid extra for one with more storage but they gave you one of lesser value instead and won't refund the difference.
Not only is it enough to make someone very angry but it is completely illegal.
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I'm just annoyed by all these whiny people. What he had there is profit. Just sell it on what and wait a month.
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Oh mate you getting at me for whining?? What the hell is your post doing? I don't want profit i want the phone that i have paid for
No stock for 4 weeks! Wow, I'll grab a Nexus 7 now and then save what I spent on the Nexus 7 for 4 weeks time then I guess.
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I have ZERO sympathy for people who ordered after selling their only phones.... You had plenty of time to save up and pay outright...
I have my trusty one x which I don't even know if I'm gonna sell now due to the mixed reviews...
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I sold once i got order confirmation, how was i to know they would screw it up?
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If this truly is the case then yes, I would be extremely angry. You paid extra for one with more storage but they gave you one of lesser value instead and won't refund the difference.
Not only is it enough to make someone very angry but it is completely illegal.
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Apparently it ain't their policy as they cannot prove they are 8gb. Surely they could check via IMEI?
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Oh mate you getting at me for whining?? What the hell is your post doing? I don't want profit i want the phone that i have paid for
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I must have missed the part that said you payed 2x 16 GB and got 2x 8gb and they are not willing to give you the difference. In that case I'll say I'm sorry and an idiot to be quick to judge.
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Edit: though just auction the two devices. Crap load of money
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If this truly is the case then yes, I would be extremely angry. You paid extra for one with more storage but they gave you one of lesser value instead and won't refund the difference.
Not only is it enough to make someone very angry but it is completely illegal.
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Ya that's bait and switch which is illegal. Don't know what kind of consumer protection op country has but I can't imagine that being ok.
Haha... good joke there from Google; send a £249 phone for £279 because they don't have them in stock.
Seems legit.
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If this truly is the case then yes, I would be extremely angry. You paid extra for one with more storage but they gave you one of lesser value instead and won't refund the difference.
Not only is it enough to make someone very angry but it is completely illegal.
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You need to call back and get a supervisor on the phone. If they won't help get their supervisor on the phone.
Mistakes happen but you, the paying customer, shouldn't have to pay for it.
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I must have missed the part that said you payed 2x 16 GB and got 2x 8gb and they are not willing to give you the difference. In that case I'll say I'm sorry and an idiot to be quick to judge.
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No worries, So you all think the best thing is just to sell on ebay? Tempted just to suck it up but my pride is hurting lol
If you do call back, you should probably wait until you cool down a bit. Eventhough it is absolutely Google's mistake, no one responds well to people yelling at them.
Mabuhay! Any Filipinos buying this awesome beast? What are your thoughts about it? This will serve as a forum for us who are interested in buying the phone
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Mabuhay! Any Filipinos buying this awesome beast? What are your thoughts about it? This will serve as a forum for us who are interested in buying the phone
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pretty sure a lot of us nexus 4 users will also be getting this. props to you for creating the thread!
Lets also create a thread for each countries
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pretty sure a lot of us nexus 4 users will also be getting this. props to you for creating the thread!
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Yeah, it's better for us to consolidate information into this thread as well as topics about this phone. I came from S3 then I sold it because the problems we're emerging ever so slightly so I'm using a symbian phone atm :lol:
Been eyeing this since day one!
As soon as it hits the UK market, I'll have my mom grab one and get it send over here in the PH! :victory:
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As soon as it hits the UK market, I'll have my mom grab one and get it send over here in the PH! :victory:
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Nice! Might wait for it to come to the Philippines though, Post pics when you get it :laugh:
bump!
I'm planning to buy this beast and ditch my S3. I'm just waiting for the launch and reviews. Hope it'll be soon!
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I'm planning to buy this beast and ditch my S3. I'm just waiting for the launch and reviews. Hope it'll be soon!
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Ditched my S3 3 months ago and I'm using a symbian phone till this phone gets released. I sure hope they used the rumored Nikon tech on this Nexus on the camera!
Yes, but i'm gonna wait for a few months and see if it will not be a disappointment like what happened to the N4.
Dbgadgets thru their fb page announced availability by Nov 5 for 24k. It may sound high but that's the reality for countries without gadget purchasing ability thru play store. Same as when n4 was initially released here
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I might be able to bring a spare unopened Nexus 5 with me, if I get any interest from pinoys based in Pampanga or Makati. PM for details.
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well, nexus 5 is out. so anyone here know when will this beast be available here in our country?
thanks in advance
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well, nexus 5 is out. so anyone here know when will this beast be available here in our country?
thanks in advance
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sent a tweet to lg. no reply yet. if they will officially bring it out, maybe it'll be like the n4 which came out december. gray market stores of course will be faster since dbgadgets already announced it. for sure the others will follow.
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sent a tweet to lg. no reply yet. if they will officially bring it out, maybe it'll be like the n4 which came out december. gray market stores of course will be faster since dbgadgets already announced it. for sure the others will follow.
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overpriced nexus 5 on dbgadget and i dont know if they will be giving parts and service warranty
might consider it if they will be giving 1 year parts and service warranty
dannaoj said:
overpriced nexus 5 on dbgadget and i dont know if they will be giving parts and service warranty
might consider it if they will be giving 1 year parts and service warranty
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Gray market so only service warranty
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I already ordered mine here in the US, and just got the shipping email, 32gb White...cannot wait =)
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Gray market so only service warranty
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guess i will have to wait for a month
Provide pics please! I went to LG yesterday just to ask when N5 will be released, no formal announcement was issued as of late. Maybe we will expect it by mid November or December. I'll wait for it to come out at GH though, N4 at GH at its prime was around 16-18k.
A mate of mine at LG says it will be out for release in late December early January. No promises though, they are concentrating on the LG flex release.
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Hey guys, here is the thread to talk about Nexus 5 in Indonesia, I guess it won't be available until January or late December, but you can share any info about N5 in Indonesia here.
tell us what do you guys expect about N5 in Indonesia, whether its price tag, release date, or you have any info to get it from Play Store, please share it here!
Off-topic is welcomed here. :beer:
If you want to talk in Bahasa it's okay as long as you include the translation.
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Ahkirnya semalam sudah pesan dari playstore. Harus pake VPN segala, tapi beres. Moga2 bisa pesan lewat amazon.com juga soalnya istri juga mau yang warna putih. Pakai amazon lebih gampang, apalagi sama forwarder ke jakarta sudah sering.
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im more concerned about how much will it cost to buy one here..
unlocked nexus devices here doesn't come with google play price tag.. it could go up to ~50% more expensive especially when it's new..
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Ahkirnya semalam sudah pesan dari playstore. Harus pake VPN segala, tapi beres. Moga2 bisa pesan lewat amazon.com juga soalnya istri juga mau yang warna putih. Pakai amazon lebih gampang, apalagi sama forwarder ke jakarta sudah sering.
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from which country? we have to use credit card right? please elaborate how it works. thanks pal
btw, don't use Indonesian (Bahasa) or include the translation in English, google translate is better than nothing
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atsfrnd said:
im more concerned about how much will it cost to buy one here..
unlocked nexus devices here doesn't come with google play price tag.. it could go up to ~50% more expensive especially when it's new..
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yes, I am sure it won't go as high as G2, since the G2 price is on 6.5M I am sure the N5 will be in 5-6M range if not the same price as N4 when first released here back in january.
Not sure which version will be released here tho, but let's hope it will be the 32GB version.
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yes, I am sure it won't go as high as G2, since the G2 price is on 6.5M I am sure the N5 will be in 5-6M range if not the same price as N4 when first released here back in january.
Not sure which version will be released here tho, but let's hope it will be the 32GB version.
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well let's hope it stays that way to get buyers attention.. a phone with Snapdragon 800 for under $600 is considered a steal even in indonesian standard..
heck, even my LG G2 (which is basically a N5 with a bigger battery, an IR Port, and 13 megapixel camera) is about $100 cheaper than the Z1.. and a whole $200 cheaper than the Note 3..
The "luxury item tax" sucks in this country. (pajak barang mewah in Indonesian)
If LG decides to bring it here, I think it'll be priced at IDR 5,499,000 and IDR 5,999,000 for the 16GB / 32GB variant respectively. Not sure when, but since there's this Indocomtech event going on right now and they are advertising the G2 a lot, I think we'll have to wait until the craze about G2 dies down before they bring it to Indonesia. I mean why would they bring a cheaper phone when they have G2 right?
I have a credit card but I'm not sure how I feel about ordering online via Play Store / Amazon / eBay. If there's a holdup at the airport that would suck. I may even have to end up paying more money just to get that phone "released" from the custody of stupidly retarded corrupted people.
I have a few friends in the US that travels back and forth though, so I'm actually thinking of asking them to get one for me.
Anyone knows if the it can be used in Indonesia though? I'm kind of afraid there's a difference in network bands.
Anyway, with all that said, maybe we can all try to rush LG by perhaps, mentioning the existance of Nexus 5 via Twitter (@lgmobileid) or their Facebook fan page
Perhaps if they see there are dozens of people wanting this phone badly they'll speed up the release.
Oh well, here I am hoping and crossing my fingers as each day goes by :fingers-crossed:
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The "luxury item tax" sucks in this country. (pajak barang mewah in Indonesian)
If LG decides to bring it here, I think it'll be priced at IDR 5,499,000 and IDR 5,999,000 for the 16GB / 32GB variant respectively. Not sure when, but since there's this Indocomtech event going on right now and they are advertising the G2 a lot, I think we'll have to wait until the craze about G2 dies down before they bring it to Indonesia. I mean why would they bring a cheaper phone when they have G2 right?
I have a credit card but I'm not sure how I feel about ordering online via Play Store / Amazon / eBay. If there's a holdup at the airport that would suck. I may even have to end up paying more money just to get that phone "released" from the custody of stupidly retarded corrupted people.
I have a few friends in the US that travels back and forth though, so I'm actually thinking of asking them to get one for me.
Anyone knows if the it can be used in Indonesia though? I'm kind of afraid there's a difference in network bands.
Anyway, with all that said, maybe we can all try to rush LG by perhaps, mentioning the existance of Nexus 5 via Twitter (@lgmobileid) or their Facebook fan page
Perhaps if they see there are dozens of people wanting this phone badly they'll speed up the release.
Oh well, here I am hoping and crossing my fingers as each day goes by :fingers-crossed:
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I am good as long as the price is not cross 6M mark.
No it's not luxury item tax, it still under consideration by government, not yet become a policy. and the pricing in non-play store country is almost the same because it sells by LG and warranty is goes to LG not Google.
I am not sure but G2 has better camera and more mainstream device here, who cares about Nexus here lol
I am not yet seeing any person using N4 here btw in Jogja.
I am pretty sure it is usable here, it's all the same except the cdma variant and LTE bands which is still not available yet here.
It's like nexus 4 case, a lot of people including me force them to release it quickly or at least give us the date but they still quiet until it's released back in January, I guess it will be the same in this case.
so we still has 2 months left to wonder about the price and release date, and there is still hope for dollar to get weak, and back to 10k.
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how was the price of nexus 4 back then when it was released on indonesia?
I hope the price can be below 5m, it is retarded if it goes up to 6m what is that stupid tax someone said about? I mean I saw a lenovo k900 advertisement on kompas today priced at 4m, NOT FAR from ebay or another online price I saw from googling, thus if lenovo phone price can be reasonably on par with international 'standard', why can't nexus 5???
if the ridiculous inflated price do happen, what is the cause? don't tell me that phones taxes are somehow tied with the phones' specs, that is utterly retarded beyond idiocy
now anoyher matter is availability, will normal phone shops here have nexus 5? how about the services and warranty, who is going to cover for them?
also can indonesian buy nexus 5 directly from google?
I heard from singapore forum, we can order N5 from australia's google playstore and then get it ship to Indonesia.
I got friend that can buy me the phone and when she comes back, I can have my N5. But can it really work with our carriers?
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how was the price of nexus 4 back then when it was released on indonesia?
I hope the price can be below 5m, it is retarded if it goes up to 6m what is that stupid tax someone said about? I mean I saw a lenovo k900 advertisement on kompas today priced at 4m, NOT FAR from ebay or another online price I saw from googling, thus if lenovo phone price can be reasonably on par with international 'standard', why can't nexus 5???
if the ridiculous inflated price do happen, what is the cause? don't tell me that phones taxes are somehow tied with the phones' specs, that is utterly retarded beyond idiocy
now anoyher matter is availability, will normal phone shops here have nexus 5? how about the services and warranty, who is going to cover for them?
also can indonesian buy nexus 5 directly from google?
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its price is 5.5M, I am on of the first buyer in Jogja lol
Nexus on play store available country is subsidized by google, and in non-play store country get it from LG instead Google.
No, it's not the tax, it's nothing to do with tax.
Yes it will be available here, only the release date is matters here, I bought mine from Erafone while LG authorized centre doesn't even have it yet.
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VineGrief said:
I heard from singapore forum, we can order N5 from australia's google playstore and then get it ship to Indonesia.
I got friend that can buy me the phone and when she comes back, I can have my N5. But can it really work with our carriers?
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yes sure it can, as long as you buy the gsm one.
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aimcr7 said:
yes sure it can, as long as you buy the gsm one.
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Alright thanks bro :good:
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Alright thanks bro :good:
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where do you live btw?
I want to order one with you if it possible
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aimcr7 said:
its price is 5.5M, I am on of the first buyer in Jogja lol
Nexus on play store available country is subsidized by google, and in non-play store country get it from LG instead Google.
No, it's not the tax, it's nothing to do with tax.
Yes it will be available here, only the release date is matters here, I bought mine from Erafone while LG authorized centre doesn't even have it yet.
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lol wut, 5.5m for nexus 4? why oh why the ridiculous over inflated price, is it because of LG's ego so people will buy their phones instead?
4.5m is gonna be what I call a fair price, looks like it's just a wishful thinking
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where do you live btw?
I want to order one with you if it possible
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Medan
But i think i will received it next year during CNY :crying:
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lol wut, 5.5m for nexus 4? why oh why the ridiculous over inflated price, is it because of LG's ego so people will buy their phones instead?
4.5m is gonna be what I call a fair price, looks like it's just a wishful thinking
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I don't know maybe it's the actual price before subsidized.
but not too long after initial release, about 3-4months i guess they cut the price to 4.999.000.
just wait couple months if you want more affordable price
I can't wait btw, two months is long enough for me. lol
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still have to decide to upgrade from nexus 4 or skip it
since i have to save my money, but nexus 4 it's too hot when playing game, really uncomfortable
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I don't know maybe it's the actual price before subsidized.
but not too long after initial release, about 3-4months i guess they cut the price to 4.999.000.
just wait couple months if you want more affordable price
I can't wait btw, two months is long enough for me. lol
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sigh, unfortunately I can't wait, my current phone is dying, actually originally I've been waiting for these new high end phablets especially the htc one max but htc dropped their balls really really harf with such underwhelming specs, not to mention htc phones are as expensive as samsung here I think, one of the reason I was hoping for htc because of their sense, been a long time admirer of it since touchflo days with winmo but surprisingly never owned an htc device lol... just when I finally about to get one they came up with rubbish phone lol.
don't like the bloatware infested samsung phones as well as their annualy rising apple like insanely high prices
lg g2 is quite nice but I don't like their ui too, as well as their less than average software updates support
then there is sony phones, for some time I liked sony ericsson very much on the days of P800-900 as well as the very first xperia phone but their current fetish with water proof phones just put me off, report says they have terrible sounds as well as underwhelming display, I don't like the ui either lol
so in a way, nexus 5 is my last hope for a 2013 flagship phone, either this or I'll wait to see the next htc flagship which is probably still 6+ months away unfortunately
overall it's sucks to be in this position lol
wafflepancake said:
still have to decide to upgrade from nexus 4 or skip it
since i have to save my money, but nexus 4 it's too hot when playing game, really uncomfortable
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it is normal for modern smartphone, only the downside for me is development, development on N4 is almost reach its max, and everything will be steady, no more surprise whatsoever.
I tried my friend's S4, it's hot when playing game, not N4 hot but it is plastic while n4 is glass.
try to undervolt the cpu it will be much cooler, never had any heat issue unless the phone is constantly searching for signal cause i am in poor coverage area which is pretty normal on any phone.
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