Hi Guys,
First of all I want to thank all people doing a great work, be it ROM development, testing or answering queries. I love to read a lot and I had leared many things from here.
I searched a lot on this great forum but could not find specific answer for my question. My level of expertise in mobile technology can be labelled as above average.
My query, Currently I have CDMA rooted phone running on DamageControl 2.05, Radio version : 2.42.00.03.10, Hboot : 1.41.0000.
I want to downgrade to stock ROM (1.29.651.1) and stock Radio(version I dont know). So,
1. is it safe to run the RUU(1.29.651.1.) with current Hboot?
2.If not, what should be the Hboot version and how to downgrade to that specific version.
3. I know its not possible, but can a Nandroid backup be used in case something goes wrong?
Thanks for all for your valuable time and really appreciate if someone could help me out.
Depending on what OS version was on your phone before you rooted will determine if you can RUU back. You can only RUU back to the version that was on there when you rooted. So if you had 1.29 and rooted then you can run the 1.29 RUU, otherwise you will need to run either 1.56 or 2.27. I know that with the 1.56 RUU it is hit and miss on having problems. If you do you get an error and freeze your phone from loading Android.
Here is the 1.29 RUU > Sprint 1.29 RUU
Here is the 1.56 RUU > Sprint RUU 1.56
And here is the thread for the 110 error that has happened when running the 1.56 RUU > 110 Error fix
I do not accept responsibility for bricking your phone. Proceed at your own risk.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Depending on what OS version was on your phone before you rooted will determine if you can RUU back. You can only RUU back to the version that was on there when you rooted. So if you had 1.29 and rooted then you can run the 1.29 RUU, otherwise you will need to run either 1.56 or 2.27. I know that with the 1.56 RUU it is hit and miss on having problems. If you do you get an error and freeze your phone from loading Android.
Here is the 1.29 RUU > Sprint 1.29 RUU
Here is the 1.56 RUU > Sprint RUU 1.56
And here is the thread for the 110 error that has happened when running the 1.56 RUU > 110 Error fix
I do not accept responsibility for bricking your phone. Proceed at your own risk.
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Thanks a lot !!
The phone came with 1.56 version. Can you tell me if I use RUU, my radio image also goes back to stock one? ( I had never used RUU before, usually I updated to various ROM's with recovery).
Sorry for all the questions but I want to do think before doing rather than doing and repenting.
Hello,
I just received my Incredible S yesterday, and after some searching around, I've finally found the guide to root it on this forum.
I'm going to use the guide, but as a new rooter (only rooted an HTC Desire), I have a few questions regarding this specific phone.
My phone is currently s-on, and I'm going to follow the guide to get to s-off mode. However, does it matter that I'm only running 2.2.1? Am I still able to root?
Also, when does s-on get activated again? Only wen I go back to a retail ROM?
And, this is a total noob question...Am I able to use the Recovery ROM on one memory card (an 8GB), go through the root process and then switch to a 16GB card to install a custom ROM?
Thanks.
1. alpharevx works for both Gingerbread (2.3) and Froyo (2.2)
2. If you flash an official ROM (you can find them in a collection thread somewhere here on xda) you'll go back to S-ON.
3. After you've "installed" the custom recovery, it doesn't matter how many times you change SD-card; the custom recovery will still be there since you flash it over the original recovery.
Short answer; Yes, you can use a different SD-card to install a custom ROM from!
OK, just found this information in the ROM that I want to use...
HTC Incredible S S-OFF
Radio S-OFF in order to flash new radio
ClockworkMod Recovery with EXT4 support from here
Does using AlphaRevX put the radio into s-off mode?
tazz131 said:
OK, just found this information in the ROM that I want to use...
HTC Incredible S S-OFF
Radio S-OFF in order to flash new radio
ClockworkMod Recovery with EXT4 support from here
Does using AlphaRevX put the radio into s-off mode?
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I've been searching the forums, but I can't find anything about that...
I'd like to know how to find out if your radio is S-OFF or S-ON. Or is radio S-OFF the same as HBoot S-OFF (which you get by using alpharevx)?
Sometimes I have to say it's a bit hard to find info about some things for he IncS
alpharevx s-off is sufficient...you don't have to do a special radio s-off..I'm already running Android Revolution HD 1.1.0
edit: even I didn't find anything specific about radio s-off
jaysonline said:
alpharevx s-off is sufficient...you don't have to do a special radio s-off..I'm already running Android Revolution HD 1.1.0
edit: even I didn't find anything specific about radio s-off
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Me neither, that's why I'm starting to get confused about the "what you need" part of ARHD forum topic...
And since it works for you, I guess what he means with "Radio S-OFF" is that you should flash that radio he recommends to use with his ROM, or does he know something that no one else on this forum knows?
Yes, I think that's what he means unless ofcourse he has some secrets
hey, i am new to this all this root and stuff...
just few question.
so, the s-ff in hdboot mean the phone is rootable?
and the Radio S-OFF means i can use any carrier I chose?
thank you :]
eqao said:
hey, i am new to this all this root and stuff...
just few question.
so, the s-ff in hdboot mean the phone is rootable?
and the Radio S-OFF means i can use any carrier I chose?
thank you :]
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s-off yes you can root your phone
radio s-off to use any carrier? i think you need to unlock your phone if it is for you to be able to use any carrier
radio s-off mean you can flash new radio versions
Hey I just want to make sure of a few things before I try this... I saw the thread below but it doesn't saying anything about being able to downgrade later on. I have a Bell incS with the stock 2.3.3 version 2.28.666.3. My phone is not rooted or S-Off but I have made a gold card and was going to flash the WWE RUU 2.30.405.1 to get rid of the bloat. Is it as simple as that? Would it be possible to downgrade back to the original Bell 2.28.666.3 RUU later if I needed warranty with the gold card or not? Also any issues to worry about with debranding like radio/wifi problems or anything else? Thanks
patrick92260 said:
Hey I just want to make sure of a few things before I try this... I saw the thread below but it doesn't saying anything about being able to downgrade later on. I have a Bell incS with the stock 2.3.3 version 2.28.666.3. My phone is not rooted or S-Off but I have made a gold card and was going to flash the WWE RUU 2.30.405.1 to get rid of the bloat. Is it as simple as that? Would it be possible to downgrade back to the original Bell 2.28.666.3 RUU later if I needed warranty with the gold card or not? Also any issues to worry about with debranding like radio/wifi problems or anything else? Thanks
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If you don't have S-OFF on your BM IncS, then you won't be able to flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU because that ROM is for the S710E model (model id PG321300) and the BM Incs is a S710A model (model id PG321200) and it will fail with 'wrong model id' error.
If you go ahead and S-OFF, then you can take the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU and extract the ROM.zip and modify the android-info.txt file in the ROM.zip to change the model id. After that process, you would copy the modified ROM.zip file to the root of your SD card and rename it PG32IMG.zip. Then boot into HBOOT and it will find the PG32IMG.zip file and ask if you want to apply the update. You will then have an unbranded, unrooted IncS. The second advantage of S-OFF is that it will allow you to reflash the BM 2.28.666.3 RUU.
I'm looking at doing the same thing. Wondering if patrick92260 has had any success. I have the Virgin IS and want to debrand it as its loaded with useless BELL apps. Will be attempting this myself, let you know how it goes.
Q: First question is, now that I have the .exe of RUU. How do I go about getting the ROM.zip file.
Figured it out on my own, but for others who are curious.
A:Windows > Run > %TEMP%
Then list by 'last modified folder' and it should be the first one there.
I decided not to debrand the phone because of the different model ID for the Canadian IncS. If you debrand the phone to a WWE RUU it most likely won't ever be able to get an OTA update because when it's tries to update the phone's model ID will still be different. If there is no RUU for that new update then you'll probably be stuck with what you have.
Maybe if the IncS ever gets an actual radio S-Off I will try it.
If you still tried to debrand it though, how did it go?
patrick92260 said:
I decided not to debrand the phone because of the different model ID for the Canadian IncS. If you debrand the phone to a WWE RUU it most likely won't ever be able to get an OTA update because when it's tries to update the phone's model ID will still be different. If there is no RUU for that new update then you'll probably be stuck with what you have.
Maybe if the IncS ever gets an actual radio S-Off I will try it.
If you still tried to debrand it though, how did it go?
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Just a point of clarification. When I debranded my Bell IncS, I put the original WWE GB 2.12.405.7 ROM on it. I then received the OTA notification that 2.30.405.1 was available, so even though you won't get a Bell OTA, you do get the WWE unbranded OTAs.
tpbklake said:
Just a point of clarification. When I debranded my Bell IncS, I put the original WWE GB 2.12.405.7 ROM on it. I then received the OTA notification that 2.30.405.1 was available, so even though you won't get a Bell OTA, you do get the WWE unbranded OTAs.
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Hmm maybe I'll go ahead and give it a try then. You didn't have any issues upgrading to the WWE OTA or have problems once it was debranded? I ask just because I know if you debranded the original Desire it would kill the WiFi and I think it caused reception issues.
patrick92260 said:
Hmm maybe I'll go ahead and give it a try then. You didn't have any issues upgrading to the WWE OTA or have problems once it was debranded? I ask just because I know if you debranded the original Desire it would kill the WiFi and I think it caused reception issues.
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I have not had any issues of debranding my Bell IncS with the WWE roms.
The OTA downloaded fine, but like all OTAs, it checks to make sure you have a stock version of the previous ROM, in this case 2.12.405.7. If you have ClockworkMod installed, the OTA will fail because that isn't the stock recovery. I could have flashed the stock recovery and ran the OTA, but I choose to take the 2.30.405.1 RUU and make a rooted version of it using dsi's XDA Android kitchen and ended up flashing that.
Debranding went smoothly. Flashed the WWE just fine after editing the file.
Then went ahead and installed 4EXTRecovery and Virtuous Unity over that though.
Whether doing the debranding helped or not, I'm not sure. Either way I'm down to just essential apps in this rom, no bloatware.
As for OTA updates, who cares really. If you're on this forum, you've got enough knowledge to flash yourself and not have to wait for OTA updates to arrive.
Original Bell Incredible S rom
Any one have the OEM "stock" rom/radio/kernel from Bell in case of warranty?
I did not think about this when I flashed mine and it would be great in case the hardware fail..
everything is working perfectly fine right now so it's just a "in case" question.
neurobrake said:
Any one have the OEM "stock" rom/radio/kernel from Bell in case of warranty?
I did not think about this when I flashed mine and it would be great in case the hardware fail..
everything is working perfectly fine right now so it's just a "in case" question.
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Yes, the shipped Bell Mobile stock Gingerbread RUU can be found here:
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc9d...657_signed.exe
Thanks to football for posting the shipped ROMs in the Development section.
The file is gone.
tpbklake said:
Yes, the shipped Bell Mobile stock Gingerbread RUU can be found here:
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc9d...657_signed.exe
Thanks to football for posting the shipped ROMs in the Development section.
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justaway2 said:
The file is gone.
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Use the link that is in this thread (must have been a bad copy and paste):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922
I need this file
tpbklake said:
Use the link that is in this thread (must have been a bad copy and paste):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922
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I need this file. Can you please update the link? Point me to it.
digitzgal said:
I need this file. Can you please update the link? Point me to it.
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Go to the site HTCDEV.com and you can download the final ICS RUU.
Followup question
Thanks a tonne for responding.
I''ve an HTC Incredible S, it was at Bell's stock version, RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed. I followed this guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to root, install recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-vivo.img and soff my phone. I did not install any custom images on it.
In order to unroot and install the HTC OTA update/RUU:
Can I directly run this zip from HTC site and will it work? OR do I need to follow some other procedure to downgrade my phone to the default image(v2.3) and then upgrade to v4.0 ?
I found this v4.0 for Incrediable S for NAM (Canada) listed on HTCDEV site. Nothing else v2.3 or anything for Bell is listed there.
Incredible S
HTC
NAM (Canada)
RUU
N/A
v4.0 374.4 MB
4.14.405.2
digitzgal said:
Thanks a tonne for responding.
I''ve an HTC Incredible S, it was at Bell's stock version, RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_BM_2.28.666.3_Radio_20.2805 .30.085AU_3805.04.03.27_M_release_199657_signed. I followed this guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to root, install recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-vivo.img and soff my phone. I did not install any custom images on it.
In order to unroot and install the HTC OTA update/RUU:
Can I directly run this zip from HTC site and will it work? OR do I need to follow some other procedure to downgrade my phone to the default image(v2.3) and then upgrade to v4.0 ?
I found this v4.0 for Incrediable S for NAM (Canada) listed on HTCDEV site. Nothing else v2.3 or anything for Bell is listed there.
Incredible S
HTC
NAM (Canada)
RUU
N/A
v4.0 374.4 MB
4.14.405.2
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No, if you have BlackRose S-OFF, you will not be able to flash the 4.14.405.2 RUU. There is a link in my signature that is a stock, rooted ROM based on this RUU that you can safely install. I would recommend that along with poondog's kernel that is also linked in my signature.
Followup
Thanks tpbklake,
I didn't perform Step11, to install Blackrose.
I followed, Step 1, Skipped 2. Couldn't follow Step3, since I had bootrom HBOOT 1.13.0000, I could never get the OEM identifier token. Then I directly performed Step 9 to get revolutionary soff. Then I followed Step 4,5 to install clockwork recovery and root my phone. Then I performed Step 6. That's it. No other steps or flashing of custom rom.
Can I go ahead with the 4.0 RUU from HTCDev?
digitzgal said:
Thanks tpbklake,
I didn't perform Step11, to install Blackrose.
I followed, Step 1, Skipped 2. Couldn't follow Step3, since I had bootrom HBOOT 1.13.0000, I could never get the OEM identifier token. Then I directly performed Step 9 to get revolutionary soff. Then I followed Step 4,5 to install clockwork recovery and root my phone. Then I performed Step 6. That's it. No other steps or flashing of custom rom.
Can I go ahead with the 4.0 RUU from HTCDev?
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No. Run the blackrose tool. (Make sure you have CM7 or another rooted ROM for this). Fully run it so that now, in the bootloader, instead of Revolutionary, You should see Blackrose. Then run the tool again but this time select Uninstall Blackrose and at the end of that, you should have HBOOT 1.13.0000. Relock bootloader and then run the RUU.
Or you can just use tbpklake's stock rooted ROM. That was built off the lateset WWE RUU I believe.
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No. Run the blackrose tool. (Make sure you have CM7 or another rooted ROM for this). Fully run it so that now, in the bootloader, instead of Revolutionary, You should see Blackrose. Then run the tool again but this time select Uninstall Blackrose and at the end of that, you should have HBOOT 1.13.0000. Relock bootloader and then run the RUU.
Or you can just use tbpklake's stock rooted ROM. That was built off the lateset WWE RUU I believe.
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Thanks I can't use rooted ROM for a test I am doing.
So keep following the previous guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to perform Steps 10,11 for flashing CM7 and Blackrose. Then re-run Blackrose utility to uninstall it. Then lock the bootloader and run RUU from htcdev. Correct?
How do I lock the bootloader again?
digitzgal said:
Thanks I can't use rooted ROM for a test I am doing.
So keep following the previous guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118187) to perform Steps 10,11 for flashing CM7 and Blackrose. Then re-run Blackrose utility to uninstall it. Then lock the bootloader and run RUU from htcdev. Correct?
How do I lock the bootloader again?
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Ok now I'm just freaking confused. What are you trying to do?? Are you trying to root?? Or what??
I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me in my quest to install the OTA update for the Incredible S to 2.3.5, sense 3.0.
I have previously rooted, back in the Summer of this year so think it would have been Alpha or Revoked. Have tried a couple of things to restore S-On in order to run the stock update.
I have tried several methods to flash a new HBOOT, including flashing the OTA from Sense and the bootloader, and have tried to flash a new PG32IMG as well.
Most recently I have extracted a Rom.zip from a working Incredible S/Vivo RUU, and tried to put on the Hboot from this after running the Vivo Downgrade.img - for both of these I keep getting "Can not roll back hboot version" on the bootloader screen after pushing to the device with FASTBOOT.
Since installing the PG32IMG.zip I tried, I have changed to Vivo PVT SHP S-OFF RL on the bootloader. The other details are:
HBOOT - 700.1000
RADIO - 3805.04.03.22_M
eMMC - boot
Other than having S-Off and being rooted, I am running Stock 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I'm going wrong, or what Hboot I can flash to overcome this please!
Is your Inc s locked to a network or did you get it sim free, that could be a problem you might be having. If you went from a custom rom to stock rom did you use the correct ruu to go to rom which is right for your country.
The phone itself is sim free. I used an RUU that was as similar to the OTA update naming as possible:
RUU_Vivo_Gingerbread_S_HTC_WWE_2.30.405.1_Radio_20.2808.30.085AU_3805.06.03.03_M_release_199308_signed
elthrawno , i have the same problem?
have a solution??
plzz help...
thank you...
elthrawno said:
I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me in my quest to install the OTA update for the Incredible S to 2.3.5, sense 3.0.
I have previously rooted, back in the Summer of this year so think it would have been Alpha or Revoked. Have tried a couple of things to restore S-On in order to run the stock update.
I have tried several methods to flash a new HBOOT, including flashing the OTA from Sense and the bootloader, and have tried to flash a new PG32IMG as well.
Most recently I have extracted a Rom.zip from a working Incredible S/Vivo RUU, and tried to put on the Hboot from this after running the Vivo Downgrade.img - for both of these I keep getting "Can not roll back hboot version" on the bootloader screen after pushing to the device with FASTBOOT.
Since installing the PG32IMG.zip I tried, I have changed to Vivo PVT SHP S-OFF RL on the bootloader. The other details are:
HBOOT - 700.1000
RADIO - 3805.04.03.22_M
eMMC - boot
Other than having S-Off and being rooted, I am running Stock 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I'm going wrong, or what Hboot I can flash to overcome this please!
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Since you are S-Off using Revolutionary, the Revolutionary HBOOT is preventing you from overwriting it so you won't lose S-Off. If you truly want to return to a stock ROM then you need to follow this procedure:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15732727&postcount=14
I've followed the method on there, but not convinced I have the full SDK suite installed, so might be worth me retrying once I have.