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Hello guys,
I'm about to jump on the g1 train, currently trying to decide between white or black Dream. I have only seen the black in person (still looking for the white ;P) and there arent that many reviews or opinions posted on the net (that I could found at least) as to what the difference between the two (other than the color of course) and their build quality is.
So, please post your opinions on the matter. I'm pretty sure there are quite a few users in here with the white version. Black seems more popular, for some reason its also more expensive in most shops. But is it also more robustly built?
The one solid difference I've been able to read about is that the white phone doesnt have the rubberized back the black one has. Is this true? What about the quality of the plastic used? Are both solid, or is one "weaker" than the other? How do both feel after a few months of use? Is the white one a magnet for dirt?
Thank you guys
Cheers
Niko
Neuuubeh said:
Hello guys,
I'm about to jump on the g1 train, currently trying to decide between white or black Dream. I have only seen the black in person (still looking for the white ;P) and there arent that many reviews or opinions posted on the net (that I could found at least) as to what the difference between the two (other than the color of course) and their build quality is.
So, please post your opinions on the matter. I'm pretty sure there are quite a few users in here with the white version. Black seems more popular, for some reason its also more expensive in most shops. But is it also more robustly built?
The one solid difference I've been able to read about is that the white phone doesnt have the rubberized back the black one has. Is this true? What about the quality of the plastic used? Are both solid, or is one "weaker" than the other? How do both feel after a few months of use? Is the white one a magnet for dirt?
Thank you guys
Cheers
Niko
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i dunno. I have seen an all white battery cover offered in a few other countries. If you do go white, you might want to look into the white battery cover. it looks slick
definanetly get a black one with the nice matte finish(it look the best) i have a white one and the paint is chipping around the memory stick slot, the chin and it is not very scratch resistant
even if you dont take the outer color into consideration, the keyboard on the black one is the best...the white and brown G1 have a keyboard that is harder to read in daylight.
black one! you can actually SEE the keyboard
Amen... White looks nice, but goodluck trying to see what youre typing if the sun is shining on it.
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Amen... White looks nice, but goodluck trying to see what youre typing if the sun is shining on it.
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There is a way around the problem if you use "Backlight Off" from the market. You do however need root for it to work.....
funny you guys say that about the keyboard. i find it very hard to use in the sun, hardly see the keys at all. as far as build quality gos.
i love my white G1, however. it has a slight imperfection in regard to the underside of the chin where the backplate clicks onto on one side. it has a very small gap making that side not sit flush with the body of the phone. its not enough to notice unless you look for it but it drives me insane. the problem is worse when i use the extended battery making the whole thing feel flimsy and creaky. i have found myself wondering if i made the right choice getting a white one over a black.
I have the Bronze and the key board sucks outside wish I would have got the black.. But I still love my G1
Wow thanks a lot for the replies. White does look a lot better in pics (in my opinion at least ). Seems I'll take the black one tho
Thanks again, really helpful replies!
Cheers,
Niko
White one IS better looking.
I've got a black one, and hope I had chosen a white one... and most of my friends with the white one would say the same for the black one. Don't care much about the 'finish' or 'keyboard', it's all the same, just go for the one you personally prefer.
I would def stick with the black
Black unless you want to replace the keyboard. Even with backlight off on my bronze the keys were unreadable at times. With my black one it's looking for a program that turns back light on without a keypress.
I've got a black G1 and a friend of mine has got a white one.
Build quality is comparable i think, but there several other factors which make me favor the black G1:
- The 'rubbery' finish of the battery cover provides superiod grip when holding the G1 in your hand.
- The keyboard (even when lit) is better readable on a black g1 than on a white one. probably because the contrast between black keys/white characters on the keys is bigger.
Neuuubeh said:
Hello guys,
I'm about to jump on the g1 train, currently trying to decide between white or black Dream. I have only seen the black in person (still looking for the white ;P) and there arent that many reviews or opinions posted on the net (that I could found at least) as to what the difference between the two (other than the color of course) and their build quality is.
So, please post your opinions on the matter. I'm pretty sure there are quite a few users in here with the white version. Black seems more popular, for some reason its also more expensive in most shops. But is it also more robustly built?
The one solid difference I've been able to read about is that the white phone doesnt have the rubberized back the black one has. Is this true? What about the quality of the plastic used? Are both solid, or is one "weaker" than the other? How do both feel after a few months of use? Is the white one a magnet for dirt?
Thank you guys
Cheers
Niko
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in tmobile UK they offer the white g1 with white battery cover and white keys on the keyboard. but silver middle.
tmobile us is half white and from the keyboard down its silver. the back cover does however have the rubbery feel.
the white g1 however chips soooo easily =\ i have the white one. and i was reading somewhere that the first white g1s that were released in te US had the same whtie battery cover as the UK one,but were quickly recalled becuz of paint chipping issues.
i bought the black g1 first,but returned it for the white g1 since white is mroe visually appealing to me. however the white g1 keybaord sucks ass in daylight. white backlight on a silver keyboard just makes it hard to see.
some black g1s had the silver middle and keyboard, but nowadays tmobile stores sell a full black g1. the keyboard is actually a lot easier to see.but i hate the black g1 matte finish.
you can buy ZAGG invisible shield to make the black g1 have a shiny look and also protect it from scratches and chips.. or buy it for the white g1 to protect it from scratches and chips as well.
i plan to however to buy a white battery cover and install the zagg invisible shield(btw zagg offers lifetime warranty so you can easily get a replacement for free)
Hey guys,
I already mentioned this in the German thread, however it may concern a couple of more people.
I just received my replacement. The reason I ordered one was I got 2-3 tiny little bright spots close to the top right corner on the display. Exactly they are located on the opposite side of the back camera. These pixels are brighter than all others. Though the spots are very tiny you can notice them e.g. if I look closely at the Google search bar on your home screen. It's not that they are disturbing me but I feel on a new device there should not be such issues. You never know how far this is going to get.
So, the today's device is made in Jan 2013 and it has the same spots. I want to ask if anyone of you has the same issue. Just download a pixel test app ( e.g. Dead Pixel Test by Ossibus Software) and look at that area at different angles and colors. I attached a picture to get a better feeling of what I mean.
Max
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me_max said:
Hey guys,
I already mentioned this in the German thread, however it may concern a couple of more people.
I just received my replacement. The reason I ordered one was I got 2-3 tiny little bright spots close to the top right corner on the display. Exactly they are located on the opposite side of the back camera. These pixels are brighter than all others. Though the spots are very tiny you can notice them e.g. if I look closely at the Google search bar on your home screen. It's not that they are disturbing me but I feel on a new device there should not be such issues. You never know how far this is going to get.
So, the today's device is made in Jan 2013 and it has the same spots. I want to ask if anyone of you has the same issue. Just download a pixel test app ( e.g. Dead Pixel Test by Ossibus Software) and look at that area at different angles and colors. I attached a picture to get a better feeling of what I mean.
Max
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Sometimes it is better not to go looking for these tiny flaws as often we find them.
LCD panels do have flaws, and a certain number will leave the factory with some broken pixels, some good information here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_pixel
Some applications claim to fix these pixels by flashing the screen with lots of colours, and they seem to work for some people, typically however the pixels are intermittently broken and would have probably just started working anyway!
Manufacturers of LCD panels let a certain amount of screens through with broken pixels simply because otherwise they would be throwing too many away and so their cost would be considerably higher.
I'm not sure if yours are broken pixels however. How are you seeing these? If you are cranking the brightness up to full and viewing a dark colour you can often see tiny pin holes of light, and this is just tiny flaws in the filters which are so thinly applied tiny breaks happen, which you wouldn't see in typical use. You'll never find a screen 100% perfect if it is this you are seeing.
What do you see if you have a dark black background and the phone on normal brightness? Pixels stuck in the "on" position would be very clearly visible. On a white background stuck "off" pixels would be clearly visible, either by showing a tiny black dot, or typically a dot of a different colour.
If you can't notice them in typical use, just don't go looking for them :good:
If they are stuck pixels you have been unlucky, and the only option is another RMA.
Regards
Phil
Had a "hot pixel" almost in the same place as yours when I got the phone is December. RMAed it and the replacement is looking good now.
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Sometimes it is better not to go looking for these tiny flaws as often we find them.
Regards
Phil
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This is good advice. My last 4 phones (captivate, atrix, gnex and N4) all had some kind of defect with the screen. Captivate had slight burn in, atrix and gnex had black spots that can be seen with brightness on lowest in dark room and my N4 has minor screen bleed under the camera.
Its not hard to find problems with LCDs if you look close enough but none of the defects i had could be seen with normal usage so i didnt bother to return them. There is a chance that you will get a replacement with worst defects not to mention all the hassle of having to do a rma. But then again this is xda where people freak out when they see a scratch on the screen.
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I'm not sure if yours are broken pixels however. How are you seeing these? If you are cranking the brightness up to full and viewing a dark colour you can often see tiny pin holes of light, and this is just tiny flaws in the filters which are so thinly applied tiny breaks happen, which you wouldn't see in typical use. You'll never find a screen 100% perfect if it is this you are seeing.
What do you see if you have a dark black background and the phone on normal brightness? Pixels stuck in the "on" position would be very clearly visible. On a white background stuck "off" pixels would be clearly visible, either by showing a tiny black dot, or typically a dot of a different colour.
If you can't notice them in typical use, just don't go looking for them :good:
If they are stuck pixels you have been unlucky, and the only option is another RMA.
Regards
Phil
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Thanks, mate.
When it's black I only see light bleeding from the top. Therefore, they are not dead. I believe, during the manufacturing process a layer behind the the pixel gets damaged. I filed for another replacement. However, I don't think it'll get better.
Hey guys.
I upgraded from the s3 to the HTC one a month ago and there is something i just cant get my head around understanding and since you probably have the HTC one yourself you should be able to help me.
The screen is very and crisp and the colors are much more accurate when compared to the s3 but in colors like white, light blue and light green for example i can very easily see a array of semi transparent lines across the entire screen and in google now (in the white background) for example it almost looks like the screen is wet without it being wet of corse, the samething can be seen here in the xda forums in every white portion of the sait. Does this make any sense to you? Or is my HTC one defective? In the s3 I never saw such things and in the ONE when displaying darker colors none of the issues I described are visible but on lighter colors they are very visible. Anyway if you could reply to this message I would really appreciate it since I'm trying to understand if asking for a replacement will fix this. Thanks anyway
Anyone has noticed the same as me? In my case the higher the brightness the easier it is to spot the lines across the display in light colors
Anyone?
Hey guys.
I upgraded from the s3 to the HTC one a month ago and there is something i just cant get my head around understanding and since you probably have the HTC one yourself you should be able to help me.
The screen is very and crisp and the colors are much more accurate when compared to the s3 but in colors like white, light blue and light green for example i can very easily see a array of semi transparent lines across the entire screen and in google now (in the white background) for example it almost looks like the screen is wet without it being wet of corse, the samething can be seen here in the xda forums in every white portion of the sait. Does this make any sense to you? Or is my HTC one defective? In the s3 I never saw such things and in the ONE when displaying darker colors none of the issues I described are visible but on lighter colors they are very visible. Anyway if you could reply to this message I would really appreciate it since I'm trying to understand if asking for a replacement will fix this. Thanks anyway
Here's an image of my first Nexus 6 (top) and the RMA replacement (bottom): http://i.imgur.com/wNbgFo1.jpg
As you can see, my first N6 had a pink tint across the whole screen which is why I initiated the RMA. While the replacement is better, there's still a red tint to the right half (bottom half in portrait). Actually looking at both, the reddest tints are in the right half.
I also have some bands that are dimmer than the rest of the screen which is very noticabke when scrolling but not so much if looking at a static picture.
It seems these really are using Note 3 Samsung AMOLED panels because the same complaints were posted on another thread last year.
Both devices were manufactured 11/12 if that makes any difference.
I'm just wondering how common of an issue this is. I don't think I'll RMA again for awhile as I'm just taking up devices that should be going towards fulfilling orders and my replacement is serviceable. But considering the price, I really expected better and I don't think I can stomach the flaw.
You answered your question (the very end statement). I can't really see what you're trying to show in the picture as everyone see's colors differently and not all phone displays/pc monitors are color calibrated in the same ways. GL finding the right display for your tastes. They all have compromises albeit some less than others
You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.
I have the same problem, the upper part of the screen has a pink Tint and it's bugging the hell out of me, but since i've had my friend bring it with him while coming back from USA, i'm obligated to swallow up whatever defects i find in it
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You don't have to have a calibrated screen to tell that the top screen is darker than the bottom screen. It's also not hard to tell that the left is lit brighter than the right on both. Whether you see pink or not may be arbitrary but that's why I put it in the description.
My original question of if anyone else is having that issue is not answered just because I found a thread on a year old phone that may or may not be using the same panel Would prefer if other owners chimed in so I don't waste my time RMAing if it's unavoidable.
But thanks for the reply.
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My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.
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My mistake. In your picture it looks like the right side of both screens is a little darker than the left.
That said, and you don't have to answer these I'm just thinking out loud here, what were your camera settings when you took the picture? What camera did you use? What screen brightness was each display set to? Could the ambient lighting in the room have affected the photo results? Could there have been inconsistencies in the results caused by the angle of the photograph taken? Those are a few of the variables that I can think of that could skew what we're all looking at.
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I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.
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I used a Sony NEX-5R Mirrorless DSLR. I probably didn't use the best settings (automatic with manual focus) but I was kind of in a rush to get the old one out to UPS to get the CC hold for the new one to drop off. I didn't use any special lighting, just natural day time lighting. I think the pics are pretty representative of how tinted they were though because the old one was very red heavy everywhere. I should have taken additional pictures of the home screen to compare. On the default background, the new one looks turquoisish but the old one was dark blue.
Brightness was at 50% for both and I believe I had adaptive brightness turned off. Either way it was light up much brighter than I keep it at day to day (I usually have it at 25% at most with adaptive brightness on). If I had to compare the pictures to the actual devices I'd say the camera didn't pick up enough of the red tint. So in person, it's much more red and much more obvious.
But honestly, I don't care that much about the tint as much as I do the uniformity. I can live with an all yellow tint or an all red tint if it was consistent across the whole screen. I'm sure a custom kernel will come out at some point with gamma calibration so I can adjust as I please. But the way it is, the top half of the display looks brighter than the bottom half. The easiest way to see this is by setting the keyboard to Material Dark and putting the phone in landscape. The left side of the kb will look greenish grey and the right looks darker purpleish grey.
I've not heard anything about this issue. Maybe one or 2 posts on here and reddit regarding banding. Everyone else says their screens are perfect. I was hoping people would share their pictures so I can tell if I got 2 bad screens or if they're all like that and most people just don't care.
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I hear ya. The uniformity, or non, would bother me too
Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.
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Welcome to the world of amoled. .lol The note 4 has same issue.Replaced 3 times still have pink/purple hue..If u test this image out with brightness turned down a bit you'll see darker area's on display that's causing the issue.
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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.
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I can see the light / dark difference in the screen with that image, but it doesn't bother me across such a dark background because it still looks grey all over (just to different degrees). I actually find that it's much worse with light backgrounds because it doesn't look all white or light grey. The darker parts are always pinkish. It also doesn't help that Lollipop is all about white screens everywhere either
Also found out that I don't qualify for the extended holiday return, so I have until Friday to return it for a refund. I guess I'll be calling for device #3 earlier than expected and crossing my fingers.
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My note 4 looks similar to ur replacement device, the first 2 were really bad,half of bottom was really pink,2nd one the top half was really pink..This one I'm learning to deal with,it just blew my mind last night while laying down in dark messing with wallpapers and noticed all the uneven darkness on dark grey image,dark area's and faint vertical lines everywere.It appears it's from uneven distribution of glue.
I dislike the warm color on mines. Nothing is perfect, there's always something to disliked
Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.
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Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I have had two Nexus 6 devices now, both with discoloration. Both are from ATT. The first device was darker to lighter, from left to right. Current device is darker on top, and lighter on the bottom. It is really frustrating because I love the size, and the screen is great in terms of resolution.
I am thinking about taking this one back as well and returning it. I have never had problems on my smaller devices. It bugs the crap out of me that I can tell the difference, mainly on lighter backgrounds. I don't think I can live with this phone for a year. Waiting on the M8 GPE to get lollipop might be a better solution for me.
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Do you recall what the build date for both phones were? Not sure if it matters but couldn't hurt to collect that info.
I just called for RMA #2. Hoping it's at least not worse than the one I have now. I think I'm in agreement with you regarding just returning it and waiting until next year, but I already gave the Nexus 5 to my wife so I'd be downgrading the Nexus 4 she had before that...ouch.
Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.
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Assuming the date under the sequence number on the box is manufacture date, this one looks like 11/17/14. I didn't think to check out the original device build date, but it shipped 11/18/14 from ATT online and I received it 11/20/14.
I have had my current one now for a day, Moto and ATT claim devices shipping currently shouldn't have screen issues, although my issue is different than the screen not turning on, or flickering.
I was so ready for a big phone, I am still within my 14 day return period, and I'm wondering if I should try this again to see if I can get a good one.
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Hi All,
I'm coming in late but I just got my Nexus 6 from AT&T last night. I've been using an N5 since may and haven't had any issues. I noticed this morning when opening Hangouts, Chrome or any other page that displays white as the background that on the top it has a more greenish hue and towards the bottom right it has a purplish hue. I thought it was my eyes at first because it's subtle but when I'm paying 700.00 for a device it better have a perfect screen. So I played around with the adaptive brightness, rotated it etc. It didn't look any less green to purplish. The bottom right side of the phone in portrait (to the right or the charging port in portrait at any given appropriate angle) had a more purplish hue than the top left (opposing the camera). I'll probably be going back to at&t tonight .. which sucks because I JUST got it set up how I liked it. I hate rooting anymore which is why I buy GPE devices. I could have gone with any other device and rooted and may have to get back into that game if this is how crappy this display is going to be. Also I might add that the encryption does slow the device down a little bit compared to the N5.
P.S. Ignore my sig, I need to update that..
For mine (bought from tmo) the bottom is slightly darker than the top. I only noticed when looking hard for the "link" issue. Out of all the issues I could have had, I find this the least annoying of them.
Over all I'm happy.
I just got my Nexus 6 direct from Google (one of the lucky ones) and for the first time ever, a phone screen is really bugging me. There is a tint, darker from left to right. The most expensive Nexus I've ever bought (and I've bought them all) and the worst display. Very sad.
Here's some images, one with contrast as it was hard to photograph. Much more noticeable to the naked eye.
Does anyone NOT have this issue? If so I'd rather take the chance on replacing it.
Update: Returning it for a replacement. Google kindly gave me $10 credit for the troubles.
I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.
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I received my replacement. The screen seems perfect. No gradient. There are definitely some defunct ones out there, beware. Mine is going back now. I hope you don't get it.
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Look for it... there are no perfect phones hahaha.
But congrats if you don't get annoyed with your new phone :good: