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Nandroid/titanium clarification please.

I'm new to rooting. Just got my moto droid (1) rooted yesterday using superoneclick. Worked Flawlessly. I've installed barnacle wifi teather utilizing my newely establish root 'superuser'.
I've been reading up on custom roms, removing bloatware, ect and am anxious to give it all a go HOWEVER first things first, I need to make a copy/backup of my stock phone's rom right?
I need to be rooted to make a backup right?
Now I've heard about nandroid and titanium back. From what I've gathered titanium backs up all ur apps and there settings to reintall after flashing a new rom,...right? (Since flashin wipes internal memory)
I think, Nandroid is needed for installing new/custom roms and/or reverting back to my stock rom.....nandroid is a program correct?
Am I following this correctly?
Id really appreciate your time to answer my elemenatry questions.
Thanks!
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Basically, nandroid is a disc image.
You can restore your entire OS quite quickly.
Titanium is simply a very good program for backing up your apps along with data so all your settings are saved.
Restoring with titanium can take a long time though since each app gets installed one by one - and that's when it is working properly. For me, it just keeps closing itself after restoring a singe app.
I haven't seen it recommended but I HIGHLY recommend SuperManager for for backing up and restoring. It doesn't ask any questions. It just puts all your stuff back and it doesn't crash.
So I use SM for restoring the whole shot, and Titanium when I'm being more selective.

if you use nandroid to backup then after you have flashed your new ROM then you can put the nandroid files in the sd/openrecovery/nandroid/ folder, boot into open recovery and pick the nandroid files to install.

I got super manager and backed up my apps to sd card.
Next I got rom manager...now my problem is I cannot get rom manager to back up my stock rom. Flashed the clockworkmod via rom manager and tried booting into recovery,..I only get stock recovery.
Went back into rom manager and flashed the alternative recovery SPRecovery, still no luck booting into an aftermarket recovery.
What the heck am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't gotten ROM Manager to work consistently, but I find that after a few attempts at booting into Clockwork Recovery, it'll eventually go through. Maybe someone can point out a way to make the process take less time.

Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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kmcgill88 said:
Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!

vladstercr said:
If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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I've heard the CM name around a lot. When I go into rom manager I see the CM 6 but I'm still lil nervous to give it a shot. This is my only phone. Soo,....maybe a few more tutorials to review the process once more..just cuz
Now when I flash, say, CM6 I don't need to worry about root or superuser permission anymore do I?
Also what apps, if any, will be pre installed with CM6? (I have backed up my apps with super manager)
I really appreciate everyones help! THANK YOU!
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Since you did a nandroid, you have very little to worry about.
But, just to be super safe, you can copy the nandroid to your computer.
If anything goes wrong, you have an instant restore handy.
About Super Manager - I forgot to mention that to save all your user data along with your apps and to also have a quick restore process, back up using the smbk option.
When you flash CM6, you will stay rooted and be overclocked to 900 mhz.
There is no bloat installed with CM6 but all the essentials are there.
I don't know anything about ROM Manager stuff because I can't use it on my Milestone.

vladstercr said:
If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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is this the shadwmod you're referring to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939555
will this work for the droid 1 (as long as i flash the proper baseband)? i've tried a fair # of gb builds but not this one and wanna give it a shot. thanks

I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good

vuarnet said:
nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good
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thanks very much for such useful advice!

skribzy said:
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
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I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.

mfratto said:
I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.
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titanium CAN restore system settings / apps, but it's a little bit of a different process to make sure that you don't restore a previous ROM's data, which can cause some pretty serious instabilities if done improperly.
here are some How-Tos for using Titanium Backup: http://www.moddedlogic.com/pe/howto.php
these methods are a little more advanced, and if done improperly can cause instability. these methods can be used in conjunction with restoring "missing apps + app data" like i mentioned above.

skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
As for restoring your data after installing a new rom you need to backup your apps, I used super manager via smbk file, once you install the new rom go to market (or its pry saved in sd still) reinstall super manager and use the restore button to reinstall all your apps in one fell swoop.
Contacts, calendar, and email r on the google cloud so that will auto resync once u sign into your phone. I still lost my txt, call log, ect but I didn't care about that.
Now that u have your apps back and get a few settings confgured i decided to make a nandroid of my newly installed Rom just in case I F something up and can't figure out how to g back. With the new nandroid created I can revert back to my stock rom or modded rom annd all apps & data will be exactly how I left it.
Hope that helps.
Anyone plz feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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kmcgill88 said:
Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
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It's *possible* but not easy. Nandroid is a **disk image** (.img file) backup, not a file-by-file backup/file dump. While it's *possible* to dissect it and flash bits and pieces, it would be quite advanced since it would have to be flashed using adb or a terminal emulator ...and even then i'm not sure it would actually work without running the full binary scripts from the recovery restore processes. And even if you did get the binaries to run and flash the .img files to the right places, you would run the possibility that the old data would be incompatible with your current ROM / system.
You can unpack the img file in linux if you know how and push pieces of it using adb shell, but that's still sort of going out of your way for something relatively simple. To unpack an .img file in linux:
# Make a directory where you want the file mounted:
sudo mkdir /image
# Then mount the image on the directory:
sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.img /image
# Then you could open the directory with nautilus:
nautilus /image
# When you're done, unmount the img:
sudo unmount /image
Nandroid is a backup of a STATE of your phone, not pieces. To backup apps and data, just use a program, there are a bunch out there. You can also do as I do and pull /system and /data from your phone and backup to your computer. You will need the android sdk though. Just connect via USB and make sure USB Debugging is enabled (settings>applications>development) and run in terminal:
cd [android sdk directory/platform-tools/]
adb devices
(make sure your device shows up)
adb pull /system [local directory]
adb pull /data [local directory]
voila. you now have copies of your /data and /system folders on your computer. you can even do your whole internal storage if you want and can create the proper permissions. however, as a caveat, these will not restore a broken system to stable state like a nandroid will, it's pretty much just for restoring individual apps if you lose them or delete something.
bottom line: nandroid is great for what it's intended for. outside of that, there are reasons why there are backup tools / apps for backing up pieces of your ROM. use them each for what they're intended and you'll be good. nandroid backup/restore is like 3 clicks. same for app restore programs. use the appropriate tools for the appropriate jobs and you'll be juuuuust fine.
EDIT: it's also possible to do an advanced nandroid restore of a certain partition, but it's *highly* advisable not to in almost all circumstances. it will most likely screw up more stuff than it fixes. it's really only helpful if the backup and your current ROM are the exact same.
for instance, if I have a nandroid backup of CM6, and i screw something up in my /data folder, and i'm still running the same version of CM6, then i could advanced nandroid my /data partition back in recovery. outside of that, it's pretty much useless and would do more harm than good.

Hi
I'm sorry to jump in in the discussion like this but reading this discussion confused me a little regarding a possible usage of a nandroid backup.
Given the fact that this type of backup is a full image of the system, can I transfer this backup on another motorola droid and restore it also on there? Or each nandroid is associated to a specific phone (even if the model is the same)?
Thank you so much!

No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.

zeppelinrox said:
No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.
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it's not necessarily "phone" specific, but it is *device* specific. you wouldn't be able to use a Droid nandroid on a Droid X, for instance. The md5 sum check would fail.
so yes, you would be able to restore a nandroid restore on a backup that you manually moved onto another phone, as long as the device was the same (moto droid to moto droid).

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I don't know about you, but I was sick of that.
I flash new ROMs a few times a day on my phone, losing my /data/app apps some times a day.
So I made a flashable zip that solves this problem.
This ZIP is ONLY for pushing apps into /data/app!
Right, there are a few things you need:
- The flashable zip, download it below
- Root Explorer
- WinZip
Do the following:
- Using Root Explorer, copy the apps installed in /data/app to /sdcard
- They will have names like com.***.***-1, leave them like that. DO NOT RENAME!
- Connect your phone through USB to your PC
- Copy the apps from /sdcard to your pc
- Unzip 'data_app_install.zip' and put the apps into /data/app
- Select '/META-INF' and '/data', rightclick, 'Add to archive'
- Choose .ZIP as type
- Let it zip
- Copy the new .ZIP file to your external SD
- Flash a new ROM
- Flash the new .ZIP file containing your /data/app apps
- Reboot and enjoy!
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Nice one, i use MyBackup Pro

ionhide said:
Nice one, i use MyBackup Pro
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Titanium backup free edition

peewster said:
Titanium backup free edition
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same same Works for me..

Does it keep also all the settings in the apps?

When the app settings are saved in the app itself, then yes.
When the app settings are saved somewhere else (meaning NOT in /data/app), then no.

Does that mean it should also be possible to exchange the data folder in a ROM zip and flash it directly with it?

When you know how to edit the updater-script so that it adds the /data folder to your phone aswell, then, yeah, it's possible.
I haven't found the mounting command for /data tho so I can't help you there.

my backup root

My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.

<3 this but is there any way how i could backup app data which are not saved in data/app?

Good zip for flash app direct in data,thanks

martan1981 said:
My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.
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I can explain that one for you.. You came from a stock MRXX rom, flashed a CM7 nightlies and lost your backed up data.. Because MyBackup uses 1st sd partition on stock rom, and sd-ext/mnt on CM7.. Your backup is still there after flash, you just need to move it from sd to sd-ext..
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martan1981 said:
My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.
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Get titanium backup pro. It has a batch restore feature. I use all the time and am very happy with it. Now I'm flash-frenzy

[APP] Tired of having to backup all your apps AND make a Nandroid?

Ever since I got AppExtractor, Titanium backup has been old news.
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS5oYW5keWFuZHkuYXBwZXh0cmFjdG9yIl0.
AppExtractor allows you to extract apps straight from a CWM Backup (Nandroid). It even lets you restore SMS/MMS, Contacts, and Settings from a CWM Backup.
So instead of making a CWM backup AND backing up with TTB, you just make one CWM backup and you're set.
"I use Titanium Backup to freeze my bloat/system apps :trollface:"
Yep, Appextractor does that too!
If you're getting Force Closes after restoring apps, press the Fix Permissions button within AppExtractor and there's a good chance of that fixing the problem.
There's just one catch.
The backup you pull from HAS to be done through ROM Manager.
If you use ROM manager anyway, you have nothing to worry about.
If you make the backup through ROM Manager but it still doesn't show up, you need to update CWR. Scroll to the top of ROM Manager, its the first option, just press it.

Already hit the thanks button. I will try it out. I am a big user of titanium back up. It works really good if you know how yo use it but I am always up for trying something new.

This sounds great. Just downloaded and will check it out

Forgive this semi-off topic hijack. I am currently running Liberty ROM and want to check out the new shift3r 2.1 rom (but any rom is applicable) without losing all my settings and apps. Will this app do the trick? Is there another avenue?
Thanks

indigomontoya said:
Forgive this semi-off topic hijack. I am currently running Liberty ROM and want to check out the new shift3r 2.1 rom (but any rom is applicable) without losing all my settings and apps. Will this app do the trick? Is there another avenue?
Thanks
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Make a backup through ROM manager before leaving liberty, reboot and go back to ROM manager and make sure the backup you just made is in the list under Manage Backups.
Follow the instructions to install shift3r (this should include a full wipe).
Once you're on shift3r, install ROM Manager and AppExtractor. Open up AppExtractor and Restore all USER APPS+DATA DO NOT RESTORE SYSTEM APPS/DATA (this will ruin the newly installed ROM)
Settings within apps will be saved, but system settings will not. System settings aren't much of a burden to set up though, you'll be fine.

Titanium just updated to do this too.

Tivo7 said:
Make a backup through ROM manager before leaving liberty, reboot and go back to ROM manager and make sure the backup you just made is in the list under Manage Backups.
Follow the instructions to install shift3r (this should include a full wipe).
Once you're on shift3r, install ROM Manager and AppExtractor. Open up AppExtractor and Restore all USER APPS+DATA DO NOT RESTORE SYSTEM APPS/DATA (this will ruin the newly installed ROM)
Settings within apps will be saved, but system settings will not. System settings aren't much of a burden to set up though, you'll be fine.
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Thanks for the tip. It seems I am having some problems with ROM Manager making the backup (the sdcard-ext isnt detected during the backup process and i see no status bar moving, which I have read are indications of problems. Plus, the backup doesn't show up after a reboot). I don't have time to trouble shoot it tonight, so this may have to wait.

indigomontoya said:
Thanks for the tip. It seems I am having some problems with ROM Manager making the backup (the sdcard-ext isnt detected during the backup process and i see no status bar moving, which I have read are indications of problems. Plus, the backup doesn't show up after a reboot). I don't have time to trouble shoot it tonight, so this may have to wait.
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Backup not showing up means you need to press the first option in ROM Manager (update CWM).

Tivo7 said:
Backup not showing up means you need to press the first option in ROM Manager (update CWM).
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That did the trick. I had actually already tried that, but it never rebooted and so I figured it wasn't working. Oh well. One more silly question: Do I need to move the backup to my computer or external sdcard before wiping the system - if so where can I find it?

indigomontoya said:
That did the trick. I had actually already tried that, but it never rebooted and so I figured it wasn't working. Oh well. One more silly question: Do I need to move the backup to my computer or external sdcard before wiping the system - if so where can I find it?
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It should put it on sdcard-ext automatically. No need to move anything.

[Q] when I make a backup cwm recovery says "cant mount backup path"

when I make a backup cwm recovery says "cant mount backup path"
I tried to go down and mount all the drives but still not working
is that nandroid backup so important ? or I can flash my rom from cm9 build 15 to the nightly without backup ??

You dont have to do a backup. It is recommended because it saves your whole system at a time where it was working or where it could boot up to your home screen.
If something goes wrong when you try flash then this backup would obviously restore everything back to how it was, provided you can go back to recovery. If you cant then flash any rom with and go to recovery and restore after...

Thanks that helped but is there a way to fix that issue I discused or I have to use another backup tool like titanium I think or any other ??

Wanas said:
when I make a backup cwm recovery says "cant mount backup path"
I tried to go down and mount all the drives but still not working
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This is probably a problem with the recovery, it was probably a bug on the rom itself. If I'm right you won't be able to fix this yourself without flashing the next update or another rom.
Wanas said:
I can flash my rom from cm9 build 15 to the nightly without backup ??
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Without backup yes, without wipe i don't know, you will need to read the thread on the nightly and possibly ask in the thread.
Wanas said:
Thanks that helped but is there a way to fix that issue I discused or I have to use another backup tool like titanium I think or any other ??
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If you are talking about apps and app data. It's best not to do this especially with system apps as this can cause conflicts. However if you want to and wish to try it then i use the following apps.
Sms backup and restore - From saving all my sms messages (Obviously )
App list backup - To get a list of all the apps installed. It will save the market links to the apps that you downloaded from the market. (This is not necessary if you trust the rom/google to download all your apps automatically)
Titanium backup - For saving back ups of both app and data. Allows you to restore the app + data or each individually. You will be able to use this to restore game data which doesn't usually cause any problems.

Wow that.was a perfect answer
Thanks man that really helped and it was all good news
I flashed the nightly cm9 over the build 15 and every thing worked fine no wipe accured
I haven't tried the backup on this rom yet but when I try I.will post the result
Thanks again

[Q] what is update.zip in titanium backup app..?

Hi guys..
Can someone explain to me in detail ref: Titanium Backup, what is update.zip function..what is it & what does it do..??
I read somewhere it can be used to create a zip file of your backup apps.. in your next flash you can flash the update.zip in order to restore your apps from "cwm recovery"..!!
Thanks for any help or better tips/solutions..!!

It creates an unsigned update.zip file for installing TB in recovery mode.

soumya_digi said:
It creates an unsigned update.zip file for installing TB in recovery mode.
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So is it only for installing TB..!!
"Is it possible to create a zip file with all my apps which I can restore from recovery mode"..??

It's only tb. App u flash with cwm,but do a nandroid backup and tb. can extract and restore from your nandroid.quite easy
When u make a tb.zip then use titaniumbackup.zip name,so it's easy to locate and flash.
U use this when u wipe and instal new rom.
Btw.if u extract your rom using root explorer u can modify,delete/add apps and kernel,everything to your liking,then zip it with rootexplorer and flash in cwm.then it's only a few apps u have to restore depends on how many apps u have installed.
Remember if this file doesn't exist then create it and put your 3' apps in there
DATA/app

zodiaxe66 said:
It's only tb. App u flash with cwm,but do a nandroid backup and tb. can extract and restore from your nandroid.quite easy
When u make a tb.zip then use titaniumbackup.zip name,so it's easy to locate and flash.
U use this when u wipe and instal new rom.
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Can you explain more clearly..I'm confused on what you said about make tb.zip..(how)..?
So do I make zip > use update.zip function..??

Open settings in tb. There is an option to make a "update.zip" of tb. This one u can flash from cwm,but its only needed to flash when u wipe your phone and it's only tb. App that is restored,the rest of your missing apps u restore from tb.
In tb. settings there is also an option to extract your nandroid backup(of cause u got 1) and restore apps from that.
About "root explorer". read a bit more on how to add and remove things from roms u downloaded.even though it's quite easy to do

@Zodiaxe.. Many thanks cleared up my confusion..
The update.zip is only used for tb..!!
I was hoping there would be a method whereby all my apps could be compressed in one zip file, which I can then flash in cwm to "restore" all my apps..
I hate the tiring method of restoring them manually..!!

Yeah I know what u mean.its a drag,LOL
but buy the premium its worth the money.
When u restore in premium u select the apps(as in free) but it's then 1-click restore and tb. do the rest.and a whole lot nice features comes with the premium
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Btw. I think what u are looking for is APP2ZIP try search play store.don't know if sgs‘s is supported.

Thanks mate.. Have been very helpful..!!
I will have a look at that app, many thanks again.

What exactly is an update.zip file used for? I know I had to run it when I flashed AOKP to my Droid Inc. It was in the instructions to do so, but I was not completely sure what I was doing at that exact step of the process.
Also, I have TB (Premium). I use it to back up all system data and user apps. I have never needed it to restore any data, but I am sure I will in the future. This is mainly because I flashed AOKP M5 to my Galaxy Nexus a little over 2 weeks ago and have not looked back.
My last question at the moment is this. If I wipe/clear cache, clear dalvik cache and wipe user data (factory reset) how does my TB data stay in tact exactly?
-Kris

KRJ_87 said:
What exactly is an update.zip file used for? I know I had to run it when I flashed AOKP to my Droid Inc. It was in the instructions to do so, but I was not completely sure what I was doing at that exact step of the process.
Also, I have TB (Premium). I use it to back up all system data and user apps. I have never needed it to restore any data, but I am sure I will in the future. This is mainly because I flashed AOKP M5 to my Galaxy Nexus a little over 2 weeks ago and have not looked back.
My last question at the moment is this. If I wipe/clear cache, clear dalvik cache and wipe user data (factory reset) how does my TB data stay in tact exactly?
-Kris
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This is a general explanation of update zip
There are several ways to install applications or library
files to an Android Phone . You can use Market application
to find and install or adb command line tool to install or
push the files to Android file system. These are all easy to
implement for single file but if you have several
applications or library files to install at once, it might be
better to use update zip file. The update zip file is Android
advanced system to install applications or lib files to
Android file system using recovery tool. This method is
commonly used by rom or theme developers to distribute
their package.
Hope that makes sense
Answer to your last question all data saved in TB will stay in tact..so when you flash you can restore apps & data nothing will be lost (as long as you don't format sd card)

Roots said:
This is a general explanation of update zip
There are several ways to install applications or library
files to an Android Phone . You can use Market application
to find and install or adb command line tool to install or
push the files to Android file system. These are all easy to
implement for single file but if you have several
applications or library files to install at once, it might be
better to use update zip file. The update zip file is Android
advanced system to install applications or lib files to
Android file system using recovery tool. This method is
commonly used by rom or theme developers to distribute
their package.
Hope that makes sense
Answer to your last question all data saved in TB will stay in tact..so when you flash you can restore apps & data nothing will be lost (as long as you don't format sd card)
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It definitely makes more sense now, but I am not quite there yet. Are you saying that update.zip file is just one option and that using TB would be an alternate to using update.zip file?
As far as your explanation on the TB file staying in tact, that makes sense. Thank you.
-Kris

If you go back read first few posts..
In tb the update.zip function used to restore tb only from cwm.. Or you can create an update.zip in order to restore/update something in your rom (as in your case when you installed aokp you also flashed update zip)

An update.zip is flashable file, this can be a rom, theme or apps.
there is a update.zip on your SD-card, this is your costum recovery(cwm) do not remove or rename this file
No, clearing cache or dalvik cache nor factory reset will affect TB. or it's data.
And wipe cache + dalvik is a good thing to do once in a while.
Factory reset is is done i u flash a new rom or have trouble with your phone, lag,slow or other problems
Usually this is caused by some app or settings. Then do a factory reset,if u can't find the problem

zodiaxe66 said:
An update.zip is flashable file, this can be a rom, theme or apps.
there is a update.zip on your SD-card, this is your costum recovery(cwm) do not remove or rename this file
No, clearing cache or dalvik cache nor factory reset will affect TB. or it's data.
And wipe cache + dalvik is a good thing to do once in a while.
Factory reset is is done i u flash a new rom or have trouble with your phone, lag,slow or other problems
Usually this is caused by some app or settings. Then do a factory reset,if u can't find the problem
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But can update.zip file be created where all my apps are inside or compressed inside..??
So when I flash new rom can I flash that update.zip file (after renaming it) in order to restore my apps..?? "Yes I'm aware of tb batch one click restore..

No, not with TB but u can extract and restore apps from your cwm(nandroid) backups.
check out the APP2ZIP,that can do do exactly what u are looking for,make a flashable zip with your apps and settings.u can find it here on xda and in play store.

regarding on the topic
Im just newbie on android and i have intentionally delete the folder App on my system files thinking that it was just a back up file
and my android phone just stock on boot up!
I have to same android phone
rooted
is it possible to make an TB update zip containing the system app on my other android phone and
flash it on the broken one using the CWM?

No. It isn't that simple. While you could install titanium backup with the update . zip the phone still won't boot. And you need a running system to even start tb.
So you would need the Rom you were using. Flash that first and flash the tb update.zip afterwards. Then you will get a rom with tb already installed.
From there you can start to restore apps you hopefully have backed up before...

KRJ_87 said:
What exactly is an update.zip file used for? I know I had to run it when I flashed AOKP to my Droid Inc. It was in the instructions to do so, but I was not completely sure what I was doing at that exact step of the process.
Also, I have TB (Premium). I use it to back up all system data and user apps. I have never needed it to restore any data, but I am sure I will in the future. This is mainly because I flashed AOKP M5 to my Galaxy Nexus a little over 2 weeks ago and have not looked back.
My last question at the moment is this. If I wipe/clear cache, clear dalvik cache and wipe user data (factory reset) how does my TB data stay in tact exactly?
-Kris
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Yes.. It's all there as long as you don't wipe or format sd card. (tb data folder)
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Reviving this to add that last month tb added support for update.zip which holds all backups.
Theres 2 now:
1. settings > update.zip is a flashable zip with only tb
2. batch > recovery update.zip is a flashable zip with all backups
Everyone should be using one of these two methods to ensure u have the latest tb to restore from (since roms are always out of date), or to restore everything straight in recovery.