[Q] Speaker mystery - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone. A few days ago I started having a problem with my cappy, and I can't put my finger on the cause.
My speaker stopped working. Partially. When I'm on the phone with someone, I can't hear anything from them. If I turn the loudspeaker on, I can hear them just fine. Phone rings and notifies me of smses but I can't hear anything else. I don't hear music or video playing on the phone or the alarm clock.
In short, Working: In-call loud speaker, sms and calls.
Not working: everything else - music, alarm clock, in-call sound.
In summery, I can't decide if it's a software or a hardware problem.
I'm running CM 10.1 M2 with devil 4.2.
I should also note that I disassembled my phone to try and apply the
"loosen the screw" fix on the speaker assembly with no luck, nothing changed.

I think both. Earpiece and speakers are different devices.
Hardware - earpiece, software - speakerphone alarms, music etc.
One simple idea: take a piece of something thin, like needle and clean 3.5mm port.
I had almost-same issue 1 year ago. just dust formed wool and began shorting contacts inside port.

Yuna said:
I think both. Earpiece and speakers are different devices.
Hardware - earpiece, software - speakerphone alarms, music etc.
One simple idea: take a piece of something thin, like needle and clean 3.5mm port.
I had almost-same issue 1 year ago. just dust formed wool and began shorting contacts inside port.
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Thank you for the reply. Let me get this straight, you suggest I clean the 3.5mm port even though earphones work fine? (I haven't mentioned this but with earphones, everything works properly).

earphones = headphones = ear plugs? no, not this.
> My speaker stopped working. Partially. When I'm on the phone with someone, I can't hear anything from them. If I turn the loudspeaker on, I can hear them just fine. Phone rings and notifies me of smses but I can't hear anything else. I don't hear music or video playing on the phone or the alarm clock.
Your phone has 2 speakers - front, and back.
As i understand, your front speaker (for usual calls) is malfunctioning.
And if you turn SpeakerPhone in call, then you can hear oponent?
Try to clear port, this wont hurt. But might fix issue. You don't need to disassemble phone, wooden match will do too for cleaning.
Just nothing wet, and don't do rough movements inside port.
It's a bit fragile.

gosha100 said:
Hello everyone. A few days ago I started having a problem with my cappy, and I can't put my finger on the cause.
My speaker stopped working. Partially. When I'm on the phone with someone, I can't hear anything from them. If I turn the loudspeaker on, I can hear them just fine. Phone rings and notifies me of smses but I can't hear anything else. I don't hear music or video playing on the phone or the alarm clock.
In short, Working: In-call loud speaker, sms and calls.
Not working: everything else - music, alarm clock, in-call sound.
In summery, I can't decide if it's a software or a hardware problem.
I'm running CM 10.1 M2 with devil 4.2.
I should also note that I disassembled my phone to try and apply the
"loosen the screw" fix on the speaker assembly with no luck, nothing changed.
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When it happened to me I had to re-seat the ribbon going from the speaker to the sim board. it is very sensitive and I had to do it twice before I got connection back....i just banged the phone around too much and the ribbon lost contact....After the ribbon is seated correctly then just don't tighten that screw too much as it will unseat the ribbon again.

So, gosha.
Anything fixed?

I did as you suggested Yuna, I tried cleaning the 3.5mm port but I'm afraid it had no effect.
Then I disassembled the phone again and as Rmntruexjr suggested, I tried re-seating the ribbon connecting the speaker module to the circuit board several times while the phone is turned on and I'm trying to play music throughout the ordeal. That didn't help either. As previously, ringers work and the loud speaker works but alarm clock, music and the front speaker for calls do not.
Does anyone know if the music and alarm clock are being played by the front or back speaker?
If they are played by the front speaker then the problem is obviously a malfunction in the front speaker and I should just get a new one. Otherwise, there is something weird going on and the back speaker only plays some of the sound and then I can't explain it.

music is played from back speaker.
stupid q: did you checked volume levels?

Yuna said:
music is played from back speaker.
stupid q: did you checked volume levels?
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Yup. Just to make sure, we are talking about System Settings -> Sound -> Volumes?
However, your question has just made me recheck all the settings and apparently the alarm clock does work!
The current situation is music and front speaker in-call sound doesn't work, but back speaker in call sound works and so do all of the ringers, notifications and alarms.

So, if you play music - no go? Try volume buttons in-playing.
There are 4 different volumes, and 1 hidden.
Front speaker might be broken. Try stock rom, if not helping - service.
And also in call try to adjust volume.
Try kernel with/without voodoo sound. Install/uninstall voodoo sound.

Yuna said:
So, if you play music - no go? Try volume buttons in-playing.
There are 4 different volumes, and 1 hidden.
Front speaker might be broken. Try stock rom, if not helping - service.
And also in call try to adjust volume.
Try kernel with/without voodoo sound. Install/uninstall voodoo sound.
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No go on the music, same with the volume buttons in call.
As for the kernel, I don't think there is a voodoo and cmc version for the 4.2 Devil kernel (for whatever reason), I only found one version of it - set me straight if i'm wrong.
I'll try rolling back and flashing CM 10.0, i'll see if it helps and report back.
Servicing the phone here is probably out of the question since i897's don't exist in my country, only i9000's so if it comes down to hardware, i'll just order a new speaker module from ebay and install it myself.

But to order, you must be sure its speaker itself.
Sounds like software issue now...
Crazyness...
Рус?

I'm actually surprised the ribbon trick didn't work. I know your issue sounds messed up, but what you describe is detail for detail what I was seeing. It made no sense what so ever to me how for instance no front speaker in call but still speaker phone worked, but then no music, yet alarm works....(i think the ribbon can lose contact on just the right side so you only get some things working).
Sorry it didn't work for you, but it might be worth it to try again if you exhaust all other possibilities. If you do, keep the phone off while trying to seat the ribbon(and make sure the little black fastener is all the way open(up) when inserting the ribbon). Then to test without putting it all back together I used an elastic to hold the battery and tested that way........
If it really does turn out to be the front speaker/jack/sensor unit, I found one last month on ebay for around $2 for a cappy with a bad Jack and it was fairly easy to replace.

For what it's worth, mine stopped working the other day for no reason. Hit it, and now it works. Just something to try (not too hard of course, just a light tap on the hand )

x0ne215 said:
For what it's worth, mine stopped working the other day for no reason. Hit it, and now it works. Just something to try (not too hard of course, just a light tap on the hand )
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Same issue....That is how mine started...I dropped it one day then I went to play music and the sound would just cut out for no reason it seemed...I could shake or tap on the phone and it would come back on for a while, then nothing again....for me, it was the speaker ribbon.

Ahh that's kinda crappy (no pun intended). As soon as I hit mine, it worked the whole time the phone wasn't bricked .
PS I keep getting outbid on these alltechwholesale auctions by the same guy -_-"

x0ne215 said:
Ahh that's kinda crappy (no pun intended). As soon as I hit mine, it worked the whole time the phone wasn't bricked .
PS I keep getting outbid on these alltechwholesale auctions by the same guy -_-"
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lol, it's not me I swear....:angel:

You suck lol, thought I'd have an easy fix one with just a bad speaker which I happen to have a working spare for! Damn lol.
Anyway, OP, if you continue to have a speaker problem, did you try swapping it out for a spare one?

Yuna said:
But to order, you must be sure its speaker itself.
Sounds like software issue now...
Crazyness...
Рус?
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So, I rolled back to CM 10.0 and no change, which means that it's probably a hardware issue, albeit, a very weird one.
And no, Israel.
rmntruexjr said:
I'm actually surprised the ribbon trick didn't work. I know your issue sounds messed up, but what you describe is detail for detail what I was seeing. It made no sense what so ever to me how for instance no front speaker in call but still speaker phone worked, but then no music, yet alarm works....(i think the ribbon can lose contact on just the right side so you only get some things working).
Sorry it didn't work for you, but it might be worth it to try again if you exhaust all other possibilities. If you do, keep the phone off while trying to seat the ribbon(and make sure the little black fastener is all the way open(up) when inserting the ribbon). Then to test without putting it all back together I used an elastic to hold the battery and tested that way........
If it really does turn out to be the front speaker/jack/sensor unit, I found one last month on ebay for around $2 for a cappy with a bad Jack and it was fairly easy to replace.
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I didn't realize earlier that you had the EXACT same problem so I'll give it another go. It's a good idea with the rubber band, I had to hold the battery throughout the ordeal last time. Even if I order one of these units on ebay now, it'll take about a month to arrive.
x0ne215 said:
You suck lol, thought I'd have an easy fix one with just a bad speaker which I happen to have a working spare for! Damn lol.
Anyway, OP, if you continue to have a speaker problem, did you try swapping it out for a spare one?
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I'm afraid I tried everything I could which relates to the common Cappy speaker malfunction, that's not it i'm afraid.
I spent 10 days in the desert prior to this malfunction so it's very possible sand caused something (there is sand inside the phone ) or I may have dropped it or something. I didn't want to mention this earlier so I don't throw you guys off straight into a hardware issue.

Well imo hardware is usually an easy fix, so long as it's not the main board (at that point it'd make more sense to just buy a new phone). Open the phone up (don't be scared, there's a tear-down guide on this section w/ pictures), take a can of compressed air, and lightly go over all of the parts inside the phone. Take care not to knock anything out of place. You may also want to re-connect all of the ribbon cables, just in case one came loose (very VERY high possibility). If you need any extra help you can pm me here or shoot me an email (I work in IT and do hardware repairs all the time ).

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TMO G1, No sound from rear speaker.

Yesterday, my phone stopped making audio notifications and playing the ringtones when I get calls, it just vibrates. Overnight I did a clean install of CM4.2.13 and still nothing. No audio will play out of it EXCEPT when I answer a phone call, just as I hit talk it will play just the tiniest snippet of my ringtone so I'm fairly certain that there's no hardware damage. Calls go through fine on the earpiece speaker and the microphone is working too.
I've scoured the nets for a solution and found none except one person mentioned something about the radio. Is it possibly that with flashing tons of roms that the radio might become damaged and that I should reinstall it?
I also tried installing the G1 audio hack in hopes that it might right the ship but still nothing. That's all I can think of!
I've looked at every setting and open process for a clue and nothing. There's only one or two diff places I've read about a G1 phone having this issue and from what I read it sounds exactly the same so I'm not totally alone.
Any help would be GREAT. THANKS!
just out of curiosity, when you say you did a clean install do you mean you simply wiped and installed it? Or did you wipe, install the Base, then the new rom?
I wiped everything I could using the RA-1.4 and formatted my SD card.
What would you recommend doing?
if theres no sound, Even when in speaker phone, U might have blown the speaker. Not sure where its sold at...
I have a same problem. Any ideas?
Bump bump ba-dump.
DMAthlon said:
No audio will play out of it EXCEPT when I answer a phone call, just as I hit talk it will play just the tiniest snippet of my ringtone so I'm fairly certain that there's no hardware damage. Calls go through fine on the earpiece speaker and the microphone is working too.
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That sounds a lot like hardware damage to me. Your speaker might be fine but the connections to the speaker could very easily be damaged causing only part of the signal to get through.
If you did a full wipe of your phone too (including the radio/SPL) then i would certainly say it isn't a software problem.
Yes, I've wiped EVERYTHING. I actually reverted back to stock everything and then did a CM install.
Got the same problem here.
No sound from rear speaker. It would come on occasionally, when i knock it around a bit but but not for long. At times i can hear it making a really, really tiny sound when i play an mp3. I have to put it right up to my ear to actually hear anything. But most of the time there is nothing coming out the back speaker at all.
Doing a google search on this im surprised at how common this problem actually is and still no one knows whats causing it or how to fix it.
Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Found a fix for my problem!
I played an mp3. Than while playing around with phone i noticed that if i give it a little twist sound would come back on. I then took off the back cover and realized that if push the battery in very slightly i would get sound! So all i did was stick a piece of double sided tape to the back of my battery and that seems to have taken care of this issue!
Man, im i glad to see that one sorted out!
Hope this is of help to anyone!
So it's a dodgy connection? I must say, the G1 isn't the most well-made phone ever ><
Meltus said:
So it's a dodgy connection? I must say, the G1 isn't the most well-made phone ever ><
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Yep! Looks that way. Im about to open it up and see what the situation is.
Found the problem!
Opened up the phone last night. Took out the problem speaker. It has 2 springs comin out of it, which are supposed to make contact with the board. All i did was strech them a little and all is good now. Even took out the piece of tape that i had stuck on the battery for a quick fix.
Hope this helps.

[Q] No sound from earpiece or from music, but notification/alarm/other sounds work

Hi Forum,
I orginally posted this topic on the man Q and A board but it was buried quickly with no response. Perhaps this is a better venue to ask.
My phone is roughly a year old, and today I ran into a weird and potentially phone killing problem
I received a few phone calls from my girlfriend today, the ringer rang loud and clear, but I heard no sound from my ear piece. After a few "Hello?"s, I hung up thinking it was a bad connection. Upon seeing my girlfriend afterwards, she said she heard me on my end. So I got her to call me again and I tried to use speaker phone, and I could hear her fine.
Doing some research on google, I only ran across one other person who had this problem, and upon seeing this, I tested my music player, (as theirs didn't work), and mine doesn't work either
This other person said the problem resolved itself a day later.
In short, my ear piece has no sound during a phone call and my media sound doesn't work (though it works w/ headphones.) My notification sounds and speaker phone DO work, as well as my alarms
Do the notification and speaker phone speakers come from a different place than media and ear piece speakers?
Do I have a software issue? I tried the "push the speaker down" solution but to no avail
Should I wait like the other person?
Any suggestions?
Thanks forum!
Codazzle said:
Hi Forum,
I orginally posted this topic on the man Q and A board but it was buried quickly with no response. Perhaps this is a better venue to ask.
My phone is roughly a year old, and today I ran into a weird and potentially phone killing problem
I received a few phone calls from my girlfriend today, the ringer rang loud and clear, but I heard no sound from my ear piece. After a few "Hello?"s, I hung up thinking it was a bad connection. Upon seeing my girlfriend afterwards, she said she heard me on my end. So I got her to call me again and I tried to use speaker phone, and I could hear her fine.
Doing some research on google, I only ran across one other person who had this problem, and upon seeing this, I tested my music player, (as theirs didn't work), and mine doesn't work either
This other person said the problem resolved itself a day later.
In short, my ear piece has no sound during a phone call and my media sound doesn't work (though it works w/ headphones.) My notification sounds and speaker phone DO work, as well as my alarms
Do the notification and speaker phone speakers come from a different place than media and ear piece speakers?
Do I have a software issue? I tried the "push the speaker down" solution but to no avail
Should I wait like the other person?
Any suggestions?
Thanks forum!
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I had nearly the same issue, except mine got to the point where the speaker phone didn't work either. Music played fine, phone calls stopped working. I went through a lengthy process of accidently deleting everything I had on my phone, which lead me to buy a USB Jig, install the stock ROM and it worked perfectly. I would suggest trying this before you try and physical fixes on your phone.
Thanks for the suggestion SGT_Watkins
I am an absolute noob when it comes to this stuff. So it took me a while to even figure out what you were saying
BUT, after a whole night of reading and flashing it WAS FIXED!!!
I am quite tempted to phone Samsung and give them a piece of my mind after they told me some hardware was defective even though they clearly weren't listening to what the problem was
Thank you again!
How did you solve this?
I have the EXACT same problem on my Galaxy Nexus. I've wiped it, tried different ROMs, kernels... Nothing solves it! It's like there's a persistent software problem that survives flashing and even battery pulls.
My phone had this same issue not long ago. It was after I had used some headphones for about an hour. I work in a paper converting factory, so I assume some dust was packed in the headphone jack and made the phone think something was plugged into it. I turned my phone upside down and used a paper clip to scrape it all out (compressed air may have been safer). After a few tries, all sounds were working properly again.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA

[Q] Headset Mode... FOREVER!

Alright,my phone is stuck in headset mode after having headphones in it ONCE. I've combed the web and XDA. Everyone suggests the same things: Thorough cleaning with Q-Tip/Alcohol/Compressed Air (Done), re-inserting headphones and slowly removing them as audio plays (Done 1,000x), Factory Reset, Repair/Replacement.
I'm pretty sure I've done enough to this phone that the replacement is out of the question (We'll just call it "thoroughly used"). I'd rather not shell out for a repair and I know it isn't software related. If I use a paperclip and ever-so-gently press the center of the bottom of the jack, it turns on the earpiece speaker, but after a second or two of releasing it, it cuts back out.
So I'm looking for alternative advice. Perhaps a jury-rig you've performed and never posted? Maybe there's a file I can delete/alter to persuade my phone to ignore this imaginary headset? Maybe whipping it out of my car window at just the right speed and angle will straighten out whatever that switch is at the bottom of the jack? (I dream of this; My relationship with my Cappy is a Love/Hate thing)
Any help is appreciated and will be rewarded with a Thanks.
Edit: I don't mind of the headphone jack doesn't work as I don't use it for anything. I just want my phone's regular functionality back.
I don't know of a hardware solution (other than the car window suggestion that you had), but CM7 has a lot of options to configure what does and doesn't play over the headset, like forcing it to play alerts over the speaker when the headset is plugged in. I don't know if you would be able to get everything back to the way you want it, but I suspect you could get closer than where you are now.
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I don't know of a hardware solution (other than the car window suggestion that you had), but CM7 has a lot of options to configure what does and doesn't play over the headset, like forcing it to play alerts over the speaker when the headset is plugged in. I don't know if you would be able to get everything back to the way you want it, but I suspect you could get closer than where you are now.
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Yeah. I can get my notifications and such to play out of the rear speaker, but music doesn't play and, when on a phone call, the earpiece doesn't work, so I can't hear anything. I've heard about an old app that could toggle the headset mode on and off, but it seems to have vanished as it doesn't work as of Android 2.x. I'd rather have the phone not recognize a headset or headphones at all. I just wish I knew how.
Bummer. Good luck in the resuscitation!
Take apart the phone and cut the wires leading to the jack
Sent from my (CM9) ICS i897 Captivate
korockinout13 said:
Take apart the phone and cut the wires leading to the jack
Sent from my (CM9) ICS i897 Captivate
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Really? That simple?
korockinout13 said:
Take apart the phone and cut the wires leading to the jack
Sent from my (CM9) ICS i897 Captivate
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That may cause as many problems as your going to fix. Contact conexxion2005 and see if he can help you out.
Got it. I broke down the phone and checked out the little piece that houses the headphone Jack. Couldn't see much, but I disconnected the little square piece from the main board and just kinda poke and prodded at the main unit. After realizing that I didn't know what the hell I was doing, I put it all back together and whaddya know? It works.
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Speaker Crackle/Rattle

Has anyone observed speaker crackling above mid-volume? My top speaker has a buzzier character that gets more noticeable as you play louder and bassier/fuller sounds. I'm not sure if it's crackling or something rattling inside the case. The lower speaker sounds clear and normal.
I have this as well.
janedoe5000 said:
I have this as well.
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Same
Mine doesn't
I made a short recording to show what I mean. The sample is from plugging in my magnetic cable a couple of times. The charging sound is particularly annoying to hear crackling.
I may have to send my unit back to Clove for warranty service. Bummer.
I have the same issue, and yes, it is the charging sound that is the most annoying, it sounds exactly the same as yours, is if something is loose inside and vibrates.
Until now I was willing to live with it since apart from that I love this device... until yesterday evening that is, when I realized that also the gyroscope calibration is way off (when trying to play Doodle Jump) and there doesn't seem to be a way to do a system-level calibration of that thing anymore. There used to be in older Xperia models in the service menu. Now I'm thinking of sending it back, which I really would rather not, having already configured everything to my liking...

Earpiece not working after Battery Replacement, any ideas?

I replaced the battery in my wife's phone and immediately afterwards I hear no audio from the earpiece. When I plugin headphones I can hear audio fine from the headphones, youtube pauses when I remove the headphones which indicates it does know that the headphones aren't plugged in and should be sending audio to the earpiece. Does anybody have any idea what connections might be the issue? I have taken the thing apart 4 times trying to find what connector might be misaligned with no luck thus far and really don't want to have to get another phone.
Same exact problem here...
Hi there archangelus2,
Have you ever found a fix to the problem? I also noticed that my loud speaker is now not as loud as it used to be... and by trial and error, I found out that squeezing the top right corner (looking at the screen) it gets a bit louder so I guess that some of the contacts aren't touching well or some other odd crap is going on. The phone is easy enough to open and take apart (if you know what you're doing and are very careful and gentle), but I did notice that given the complains that have been posted post-repair, it does not seem to be too reliable when putting it all back together. The earpiece going completely mute is complete nonsense for instance as there isn't all that much that could go "wrong" in those contacts and I wonder if something gets messed up at the software level after a replacement of hardware like the battery, is performed.
Any help and info will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers! and stay
archangelus2 said:
I replaced the battery in my wife's phone and immediately afterwards I hear no audio from the earpiece. When I plugin headphones I can hear audio fine from the headphones, youtube pauses when I remove the headphones which indicates it does know that the headphones aren't plugged in and should be sending audio to the earpiece. Does anybody have any idea what connections might be the issue? I have taken the thing apart 4 times trying to find what connector might be misaligned with no luck thus far and really don't want to have to get another phone.
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Is there anyway that you accidentally messed with the earpiece? There is a small rubber protector inside the phone on top of the earpiece, I suggest you check to make sure this is positioned properly on the speaker.
Best of luck,
Matt
Yes, I just got my earpiece fixed. I had a 16 GB AT&T model who's sound was terrific. Then i got greedy and went for a 32 GB latin american model (some telecom I forgot the name of) its earpiece sound was extremely low. I ordered 2 earpieces from ali express just in case they were to be changed. Yesterday I took it to a shop and the guy fixed the original earpiece by applying some tape around the earpiece to focus the sound out of one way and now its as good as new. $10 and am happy.
So yeah probably in your case I'd say he kinda misplaced the earpiece. You may get it checked.

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