[Q] What Should I Study? - Off-topic

I know i want to study something in the computer field, but I am not sure what specifically. I am thinking about Computer Information Systems, or maybe Cisco Networking. What do you guys think?

I'm starting a Graduate Diploma in computer science next fall, but my plan B is computer applications. It's up to what you like better, really.

ttige said:
I'm starting a Graduate Diploma in computer science next fall, but my plan B is computer applications. It's up to what you like better, really.
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Yeah I'm also thinking about computer science, I think it pays more too.

Well I don't know how it is around your place, but here, computer science is the general degree, then you choose a specific path. Here we have Computer Systems, Computer Applications, Games, Computers and maths, and if I'm not mistaken Computer Science and Administration. They're all part of the same Computer Science bachelor however, and you end up with the same degree at the end, but you'll have a more focussed training in an area. Doesn't keep you from getting a job in any other field though.
I was talking about a graduate diploma because in a month, I'll have a bachelor, so instead of going back for 3 more years of university, I could take some kind of shortcut and take a graduate diploma, which is a year of studies and will allow me to go for a master in computer science next year.

Do you think CIS has a good outlook?
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I'm good in computers field too and i'm considering computer Systems Engineer, you can get job easily on any company and they pays good

My advice: Information Security, Network Engineer (e.g. Cisco, Juniper, etc.), or DBA. Those are the top paying roles on the IT side that don't require going through the trenches of end-user support.
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chidori602 said:
I know i want to study something in the computer field, but I am not sure what specifically. I am thinking about Computer Information Systems, or maybe Cisco Networking. What do you guys think?
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Finding and getting into the college of your choice is tough enough, but the process can get even more demanding if you also figure in the next question: What do I study?
If you do your research, you might at least be able to narrow the selections.
One place to start is the Princeton Review’s “Top 10 Most Popular Majors” list, which asked colleges across the country to list the majors they offer, and report which three had the highest undergrad enrollment. Based on that cumulative response, here are the 10 most popular majors:
1. Business Administration and Management
2. Psychology
3. Elementary Education
4. Biology
5. Nursing
6. Education
7. English
8. Communications
9. Computer Science
10. Political Science
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It’s no surprise that business appears to be America’s No. 1 college major. Alice Reinarz, assistant provost for enrollment at Texas A&M University, believes students have a fascination with “corporate America.”
Majors such as accounting and finance, she said, “provide a more technical curriculum that is directly transferable to the workplace.”
Students taking the business route often have an easier time transitioning into the job market, yielding a double graduation bonus: a paycheck, plus no graduate school bills.
The amount of your paycheck can also get a boost by majoring in business. The National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE) Summer 2006 Salary Survey reports that the current average starting salary for graduates with an accounting degree is $45,518 — quite a feast for a starving college student. The NACE survey also produced a Top 10 Jobs and average starting salaries for the class of 2006:
1. Field Engineering -- $51,162
2. Consulting -- $50,657
3. Project Engineering -- $49,888
4. Design/Construction Engineer -- $48,025
5. Financial/Treasury Analysis -- $46,448
6. Accounting (Public) -- $45,518
7. Accounting (Private) -- $44,240
8. Management Trainee (Entry) -- $39,501
9. Sales -- $38,343
10. Teaching -- $31,408
Business degrees should continue to increase in value, at least for the next four years, according to a forecast survey conducted by FastCompany.com, which compiled its findings in a Top 25 Jobs for 2005-09. The survey found that engineering and health/medical degrees also are good choices for today’s undergraduates.
The path to the corner office, however, isn’t on everyone’s postgraduate agenda.
“I chose my major because I enjoy working with children,” said Andrea Stern, a Brooklyn College junior majoring in elementary education. “I feel that it is very important to help children start off their education on the right foot because education is the key to success.”
While entering the teaching world often requires specific coursework or certification, some non-education graduates enter the classroom immediately after college through the “Teach for America” program, a highly selective program that places graduates willing to commit to a certain number of years teaching in an urban or rural public school. College graduates from all academic majors with minimum cumulative undergraduate GPAs of 2.50 (out of 4.0) and higher are eligible to apply.
Many undergraduates also choose to major in the sciences, often with ambitions of becoming a doctor, which requires many years of post-graduate education. There are, however, many growing opportunities in the health care industry for medical assistants, physician assistants, nurses, chiropractors and other various occupations, none of which requiring a graduate or doctorate degree.
On the high-tech side of the health industry, biology majors are looking into jobs in genetics and biochemistry, which Michael Cahill, director of the Center for Career Services at Syracuse University, identifies as among the most rapidly expanding industries. Cahill also believes graduates will find growing opportunities in social services, software engineering and network systems.
Whatever major a student chooses, Mike Mazzone, a 2005 graduate of Ithaca College, put the choice into perspective: “The most popular goal among students in college is to be able to walk out with a job.”

chidori602 said:
I know i want to study something in the computer field, but I am not sure what specifically. I am thinking about Computer Information Systems, or maybe Cisco Networking. What do you guys think?
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Pick something more useful/general. Computer Science or Computer Engineering. Those two you've suggested are just "button clicker" training.

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Computer Engineer vs Computer Science

As far as i know, i just got accepted to one of the US University, at West Coast, The Cougar if you wonder. I am not American, so this is a huge succeed, lol. but whatever.
I had basic skills over software programming and really interested to be pro in that.
Otherwise, i really don't know which degree to take this Fall . it either will be Computer Science (BA i think, since BS will require much more Mathematics and i don't think i can handle everything in English) , or Computer Engineering.
I have been Google around and Both Computer Engineering and Computer Science has a class for Software Development.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Computer_Science
Bachelor of Arts (BA) in Computer Science
Bachelor of Applied Science (BASc) in Computer Science
Bachelor of Computer Applications (BCA)
Bachelor of Mathematics in Computer Science
Bachelor of Science in Information Technology (BScIT)
Bachelor of Engineering (BEng) in Computer Science
Bachelor of Science in Engineering (Computer Science) - BSE (CS)
Bachelor of Computer Security in Computer Science
Bachelor of Computing in Computer Science
Bachelor of Science (BSc or BS) in Computer Science (BSc CS or BSCS or BSc (Comp))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_engineering
Computer engineering, also called computer systems engineering, is a discipline that integrates several fields of electrical engineering and computer science required to develop computer systems.[1] Computer engineers usually have training in electronic engineering (or electrical engineering), software design, and hardware-software integration instead of only software engineering or electronic engineering. Computer engineers are involved in many hardware and software aspects of computing, from the design of individual microprocessors, personal computers, and supercomputers, to circuit design. This field of engineering not only focuses on how computer systems themselves work, but also how they integrate into the larger picture.
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So... If any one here did roll in this kind of degree, please tell me which one is the way to go?
My skill of programming right now is at the beginning level of C++.
Are you good with math?
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Are you good with math?
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Yes. I have been study like a math-hardcore. I mean like i love to learn Math and i am pretty good at it. At least now i am doing fine with AP calculus and going to have AP Exam Pretty Soon.
I'd go with Bachelor of Science in Computer Science if I were you. More things to do with it and you have started programming.
iynfynity said:
I'd go with Bachelor of Science in Computer Science if I were you. More things to do with it and you have started programming.
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But what will i study in it? I want to be roll in class that spend on the computers and doing stuffs, not like class with pen and paper.
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But what will i study in it? I want to be roll in class that spend on the computers and doing stuffs, not like class with pen and paper.
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If you don't like the pen and paper, then a bachelor's degree wouldn't work for you, I think. It will also depend on your professor, some prefer hands-on while others do the pen and paper method.
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If you don't like the pen and paper, then a bachelor's degree wouldn't work for you, I think. It will also depend on your professor, some prefer hands-on while others do the pen and paper method.
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Okay then, so what is the possibility of future job if i success in Computer Science BS?
you should do both, they have a close curriculum, the only thing is that can take you probably two or three more terms but when you are done you end with two degrees.
ask if you can do that at the university you are going.
Pd: i am doing this and is call "dual enrollment"
I have been researching and look like the Bachelor of Science do offer a lot of stuffs, even Software Engineering, so look like it is better deal than Computer Engineering Alone...
Sample courses
Below is a sample of courses that students who are pursuing a BS in computer science are likely to take:
Program Design and Development
Data Structures
Advanced Data Structures
Programming Tools
Computer Architecture
Software Engineering Principles I and II
Automata and Formal Languages
Principles of Software Design
Software Design Project I and II
Design and Analysis of Algorithms
Operating Systems and Computer Architecture
Fifteen credits of computer science option courses may be taken in such areas as communications, computer engineering, computer graphics, mathematics, networks and distributed systems, scientific computation, or software engineering.
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I'm in the same boat this year. I think comp engineering is better because you get to learn hardware programming. So it replaces some CS theories with more technical, engineering stuffs. And it also teaches hardware.
In terms of programming, CS will teach you to create any application you want as long as it doesnt control the hardware, while CE will teach you courses that XDA kernel devs do like multi core scheduling, CPU optimization. So it's more into drivers and OS
I am doing computer engineering from india
So as far as ik
B. C. A. And other computer science are not good enough if you are computer geek or freak (that's me)
In india (i dont know about other countries)
We have engineering in two degrees. (4years)
First is called bachelor of engineering in computers
Second is called bachelor of technology in computers
First has lot of pen and paper work
Second has better technical knowledge or practical stuff.
So its your choice what you want to do
I am doing first
I will be doing M. Tech after my b.e.
And to get admission in M. Tech you need to pass GATE exam which is quite easy because only 16℅ pass every year
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Dirk said:
I wish you had posted that thirty years ago.
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I wish he had posted that five years ago
I wish she had posted that 4 days ago

why importance of technology in education?

In the field of education, technology has an important role because with the help of technologywe can cam make easy to education. Also, technology provides a lot of study materials through which you can learn anywhere in the world.
People have lost sight of the fact that, from an educational perspective, the most important technology ever created was the printing press.
With technology, students have a wider range of resources to learn from and a wider range of resources to conduct fact checks. I'm not sure of all the other benefits but that's all that comes to mind.
sd86 said:
With technology, students have a wider range of resources to learn from and a wider range of resources to conduct fact checks. I'm not sure of all the other benefits but that's all that comes to mind.
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Sure. From another perspective, technology is an enabler in education. It is high time the brick and mortar universities decided on how to cut cost and embrace online learning platforms.
umesh_prajapati said:
In the field of education, technology has an important role because with the help of technologywe can cam make easy to education. Also, technology provides a lot of study materials through which you can learn anywhere in the world.
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I cant put it any better.
But here are some factors that make me favor the integration of technology in education.
Firstly, most teenagers right now started using phones right from childhood therefore integrating mobile education just make it simple for them to grasp some of the concepts. Besides, with the introduction of Virtual Reality and Artificial Intelligence, it can only get better .
One who masters's the next evolving technology rules the world.
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One who masters's the next evolving technology rules the world.
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Technology is very useful in these for education. Even the school students have smart class, they can understand the concepts easily.
Education should be literate and tecnology...
Teachers themselves not only need to be literate, but they must also ensure that their students are able to access the information they need, are capable of determining the relative merits of the information obtained, and are able to represent the information they have gathered in new ways using the different forms of media available to them (print, video, audio, digital).
At present, technology has been imposed in our daily lives, therefore it is a vital need to learn and master them, since everything that surrounds us implies technology in one way or another,
With all lockdowns, technology is used more than ever for teaching and learning...
It will be useful if technology is implemented properly. But so far there's been a lot of bad attempts
It's pretty important for any essay writer to compose unique texts for the customers. If it would be not unique, client can refuse from the payment.
AI/CAD Robotics teacher's!
It's almost impossible to imagine education process without using tech in it. Agree?
For example https://idscan.net/. Employing student ID scanners and school visitor management software dramatically improves school safety and security by denying access to unauthorized individuals and granting access to those approved, all in real-time. Did you even know about that?
"The media is the message."
Hmmm...
Technology is the message.
app/build.gradle
I am interested in 3D printing and I think it’s a great idea to use 3D printing in educations. It is not easy to have young students figure things out without the benefit of visualization. A visual learning environment improves their understanding of the world, being able to touch and see their projects. It’s a great opportunity for graphic, geography, chemistry students. But 3D printers are expensive, and many educational institutions don’t have enough funding to buy them. I hope, this will change over time.
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Absolutely agree that with the help of technology we can cam make education much easier. I have realized it in my own experience when I started studying with a tutor on preply. Just imagine I can study the language practising with a native. I'm sure that people have had no such opportunity for a couple of decades ago. And that's the basic thing that I could mention. The internet is a huge library where you can find everything you want. Also, it is possible to talk about the newest technologies like VR. It is insane.
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Not near everything and it can be heavy censored/search biased.
Example, wiki keeps editing critical info out to fit their left and god knows what agenda.
Example, entry David Hedison ie Capt Crane from the TV show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea was in the Navy. He was also a pretty good Navy boxer. It helps explain his physical prowess in fight scenes... it was real.
This critical fact was completely omitted by wiki.
Even chemical entries have been altered over the last few years removing important properties.
Technology is very important in education. Continuing education is crucial. That's why platforms for online learning are very good. MOOCs offer the opportunity for lifelong learning at international universities. You also get certifications. Free and available to all. Many websites are also a good source of knowledge. XDA is one of those websites. Without internet access all this wouldn't be available. The most important thing is that education never stops and various new technologies will make continuing education possible for many people.
Technology makes education more engaging, interesting, and you can get more information rather than using old books.

Hey

I'm mimosa (or John in the default world). Been here before under various names off and on for years, but not in years. It's mimosa like the tree, not the drink. I live in Oakland, CA and am running for mayor (I'll keep the politics off here). I'm currently running a public benefit corporation with the aim of bridging the enormous devide between the public at large and the homeless.
Since getting covid and mennengitus last year, I became homeless after spending most the year in ICU in San Francisco. I was dumbfounded that most of this community can't change there ringtone if they even have a phone, let alone use the internet to look for work or housing.
Before the pandemic, I founded this company (Printing Properties Limited-corporate) along with the son of the founder of burning man to develop a "3d" concrete printer to drive the cost of housing down, so as to house the homeless. Rebuilding the printer is a goal of mine, but it has expanded to other areas as well.
I am interested in exploring/developing a mod that makes cell usage... less technical I guess is a way to put it... for the technological illiterate.
I just started a repurposing electronics division. I figure hands on application with electronics is easier to start with than trying to teach code strait out of the gate. I also repurpose batteries to use with solar/wind/geo-thermal energy systems.
Ill be here frequently now and, as you can see, love to talk. So feel free to send suggestions, advice, comments, and political banter my way.
Be good to each other,
John Marks
Welcome to xda.
Sad to hear about your recent problems.
Happy you survived 2020 and now part of the xda family.
I just rewatched a video about 3D concrete printing that YouTube found for me a few months ago.
It is an interesting project and it seems there has been quite a bit of advancement in the last few years.
If I knew before, I forgot that it started out in the early 2000's.
People getting confused with settings on devices is not a new thing.
I might be dating myself but, there were a lot of people who had 12:00PM flashing on their VCR.
Not sure about making cell phones less technical, maybe an app that can set the adjustments on a phone.
Nice easy to use UI with explanations of each option.?
Your repurposing division sounds interesting.
Are you recycling lithium/hybrid batteries?
From what I have read, their is advancement in that field also.
Best of luck on your personal/career endeavors.
Cheers.

how technology is changing our world

in this thread we are gonna discuss how technology changed our human behaviour in past few years and what we can expect from it in the future
One thing I must think about reading this topic is the thumb. Its possibilities extended from just grabbing, holding or picking things. Now it's also used to handle (smart)phones, operate (industrial) machines or just move a character on the screen with the help of a control pad. A little evolution of the human body.
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One thing I must think about reading this topic is the thumb. Its possibilities extended from just grabbing, holding or picking things. Now it's also used to handle (smart)phones, operate (industrial) machines or just move a character on the screen with the help of a control pad. A little evolution of the human body.
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If this thread's meant to mean anything, let's try to be precise.
It's not an evolution of the body (which would translate to altered structure), but an addition to its functioning (and so, if anything, an evolution of the mind).
Driving. I'm a lot better driver than my car is, and your 17 year old daughter in your escalade. You may be, too. Auto this and lane change that and other safety or convenience related tech stuff has made driving a lot more dangerous, especially coupled with social dreck and culturally based attitude shifts. Technology is a supplement to driving skill, not a replacement. Lot of people don't see it that way. That side curtain air-bag doesn't negate the need to use your 'directionals'. (Laaaaaand sakes!). This is not to say that technology hasn't periodically made driving safer, because it has, there is other tech doing that - an airbag doesn't make little brad over there think he no longer needs to use the breaks manually. Crappy anecdotes, tech ignorance and a host of other stuff makes people think they can take a friggen nap.
It's cool if I want to shout across the room to my refrigerator to order some lettuce and apple cider vinegar, yeah, that's some handy ****, if that's how I roll. But, turn your head around when you back up, use your damned mirrors and be present in the driving.
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I'd like to introduce people to the principle of the "Techno-politics".
And by no means I want to talk about the "Hey ! This other country is using (anti-)social medias to influence blah blah blah". Because to me, a Québécois, it's nothing more than one-sided hypocrisy I've seen too much on american online medias, accusing Russia, China, or any other country of doing the same thing USA did decades after decades, country after country.
Tu quoques mi fili !
No.
The meaning of that principle is way more politico-philosophical.
Like, do we (want to) know that children from poor third world countries are used to go into mining fields not accessibles to adults to get rare metals needed to produce our cellphones and computers ?
That the extraction of rare earth materials used to produced electric cars are so polluting that's hypocrite to say that electric vehicules are "green" ?
That with blobbed proprietary drivers, the techno-pollution will only get bigger day after day because they will not be supported anymore on the software side ?
The buzz around Taiwan is only because Taiwan produces approx. 50% of worldwide processors and chips. Same for Syria, which is the country who has the 2 biggest pipelines going from Africa to Europe on its territory. Same for Ukraine, which is a big food producer. Don't get fooled. It's all about buisness.
The romance and love stories have been replaced with applications like Tinder, Bumble, Badoo and al. You choose a sexual partner like an accessory you buy on Amazon. For the sake of eroticism, read Franscesco Alberoni !
Most children have learned how to live through screens instead of living outside their heads. This is also where they get educated about sex, which is terribly bad for their emotional AND sexual development.
A 2011 Franco-Belgian study reported that, the younger you use screens, the more you're loosing short-time memory. (Use it or loose it !)
With all those gadgets, we have no more free mental time. Our minds are being occupied, in the military sense of the term, by corporations. Winston has nowhere else to be free.
Did you remember that, back in the days, having a cellphone was NOT an obligation ?
If cellphones had existed back in WWII, Hitler would have give one to every jew.
As a matter of history, Hitler used the IBM tabulators for his final solution. The german punch-card system was so precise, they could know the percentage of jewish blood you had in your veins. (Yasha Levine, Surveillance Valley: The Hidden Secret Military History of the Internet, 2017.)
RFID chips under the skin is not "underground" avant-garde biohacking, it's transhumanist slave thinking. They litterally use it on cattle to geolocate them. By studying a bit on airwaves transmissions, you will know that if you use a laser or an antenna and that you use the necessary power, you will get the information you want at the distance you want ? Back in 2010, a guy made himself a "Bluethoot sniper", working from 1,3 miles away. He could steal informations from a cellphone with opened Bluethoot with it. Yes, even if a Bluethoot chip transmission normally do not exceed 10 Meters.
TOR was made by US Navy Intelligence. The port is 9040 tcp. If a country wants to cut it, it will just ban that precise port on the national firewall. But it's more useful to MITM it to see what peoples want to hide.
Assume that a VPN provider always logs. Read their privacy statement and their legal canaries. If they bow to government or police mandates, they log. Otherwise they won't be able to do anything to comply. You found one that doesn't log (they promised you so !) ? What about their ISP ? What about yours ?
Corporations stealing your metadata informations are your enemies, so treat them in that way. (Watch: Nothing to hide, on odysee.com)
Corporatism, which is corporations imposing their wills on the Government of a nation, is the essence of the fascist economic system. Explain me how GAFAM is not explicitly this.
This becomes weirder when Stanford Insitute of Technology invited the US Army and the big techs for a meeting, remembering all the work they did together throughout the years.
CIA's LifeLog ended 7 days before facebook came into existence. (Wait, movies are always true, right ?!)
What you write on the Internet becomes what you really think, and this indefinitely, even years after changing your mind.
Mass surveillance has normalised the disintegration of real freedom and social relationships.
Domotics have never been safe. The NSA wanted to get Simon and Speck (two Internet of Trash security protocols) ISO approved, but ISO refused because they were full of backdoors.
The magic frequency to hack domotics is 433 MHz, which you use with an SDR (Software Defined Radio) to make replay attacks.
startpage.com will block you if you block some plugins in your web browser, because you may be a robot. But why should they care, if they don't track you ?
The /e/ rom still offers you Google services. What an "unGoogled" ROM it is ! I already wrote to them telling them, without any insult, that they didn't know how networking works at all, and they banned me for being "toxic" (what a fragile modern world we live in), not being able to get any critics about their unsatisfying work and not understanding why I really wanted a true unGoogled ROM.
SELINUX is a NSA software. Just trust them, they know how to protect you from you.
CISCO and RedHat are NSA friends. RedHat is the distro that get systemd into Linux.
Linux communities often goes to Google summer coder camps. Open-Source meaning everyone has access to it.
So you bought a computer with a Libre firmware, and AMD processor and a systemd-free distro. Good job ! Now, what about your router ? (Tip: flashrouter.com)
Any use of a 5 GHz WiFi connexion works through a blobbed device, the only two Libre WiFi dongles working only on 2,4 GHz. But the consumerist system will get you craving for more speed, speed being a caracteristic of a fascist society which has no time to think better about things of life, and thus focus on productivity and fast actions rather than spiritual or philosophical fullfilment.
WiFi is broken, and easy to deautehticate through a layer 2 attack. Is it a bug or a feature ?
You know about the 5-Eyes ? What about the 14-Eyes ? Think of it when choosing your Internet repos.
Why do we need to access our router's configuration page with the 80 tcp (http) protocol, instead of 443 (https) ?
Even within tech, we are loosing our liberty to choose what to do with our devices and data: less and less cellphones with removable battery (what an ecological crime !), or with sd card slots. Integrated cameras and microphones in every laptop, integrated camera on every cellphone, bluethoot in any of them, un-uninstallable applications, mandatory account creation to use the device (iPhone, ChromeBooks). Accelerometer can be use to replace a physically removed mic on a cellphone. Weird but true.
Why does most "secure" Android ROM only works on high priced Google phones, Google being a sub-company of Alphabet, Alphabet being a company under In-Q-Tel, In-Q-Tel being the CIA's venture capital ? Nota Bene: Intel is also CIA's asset through In-Q-Tel. (INTEL-ligence, anyone ?)
NSA has a doctrine for securing computers that requires to deactivate the Intel's AMT (also see vPRO).
Getting out of anti-social medias will rips you off social existence. At least, from those who can't really connect with someone else without a device.
nitin_ojha said:
in this thread we are gonna discuss how technology changed our human behaviour in past few years and what we can expect from it in the future
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wait a sec, why are you asking this here?

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