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The Recovery Battle: WCX vs Twrp vs CWM

What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!

Stock CWM ftw

CWM still has a lot of issues. It's been causing quite a few hard bricks. Anyone that still has it, I would highly suggest switching to WCX recovery. I have yet to try TWRP but from what I've heard from all the devs, it still has a few kinks. I wouldn't recommend anything other than WCX at the moment.
I don't really see it as whats "preferred". You don't want something on your device that can potentially cause a hard brick. A recovery is something you don't use very often, so it's best to go with the one that just works.

Nice answer, right now I'm on the stock RUU ICS rom with an unlocked bootloader and I want to flash the WCX recovery, I just have to put the wcxrecovery.img in the microSD root, enter in Hboot, select recovery and then flash it with "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.exe"?
Do I have to make a backup of something after doing this?
Thanks in advance for your answer.

Archector said:
Nice answer, right now I'm on the stock RUU ICS rom with an unlocked bootloader and I want to flash the WCX recovery, I just have to put the wcxrecovery.img in the microSD root, enter in Hboot, select recovery and then flash it with "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.exe"?
Do I have to make a backup of something after doing this?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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Actually, just put the wcxrecovery on your computer where you have adb and fastboot set up. If you don't know where that is, just download the wcxjb root zip from the guide in my signature and unzip it to your desktop. Enter hboot on your phone and select fastboot. Shift + right click on your computer inside the folder you just unzipped and select open a command window here. THEN, type in the command "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.img" and you're good to go.

slapshot30 said:
Actually, just put the wcxrecovery on your computer where you have adb and fastboot set up. If you don't know where that is, just download the wcxjb root zip from the guide in my signature and unzip it to your desktop. Enter hboot on your phone and select fastboot. Shift + right click on your computer inside the folder you just unzipped and select open a command window here. THEN, type in the command "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.img" and you're good to go.
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Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?

Brand New said:
Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
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I know it's possible, but I've never tried it. The best tip I've picked up from the guide was this
- Tip 3: On Linux, remember to run fastboot under sudo
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If you have any idea what that means, it may be of help to you.

Stock CWM. Never used anything else, never had problems, never plan to use anything else.

Brand New said:
Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
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Just download and install the Android SDK for linux, what distribution are you using?
I suppose you're using Ubuntu or some .deb based distribution, this tutorial may serve for you:
Running something on "sudo" is giving superuser attributes to the processes and services that a program or whatever you are running needs to have to function properly. Yes it's important when you flash with fastboot.
If you can flash on a laptop will be better for you, a friend of mine bricked his galaxy sII when he was flashing and there was an electricity short.

Archector said:
What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
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I use the recovery-beta2 recovery from thecubed. I tried WCX but I couldn't get any ROM's to flash with it... nothing but bootloops for some strange reason (yes I fastboot flashed the boot.img first people). I reflashed thecubed's recovery right after having issues and flashing ROM's worked again. I'm sticking with what works and I've had zero issues with thecubed's recovery after using for several months.

I know I sound redundant, but does anyone have a link to the latest WCX recovery?

You have to download from WildChild's website.... It's included in his ROM zip. You have to have 10 posts on his site before you can download anything so be prepared to "earn" the download.
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dusty2422 said:
I use the recovery-beta2 recovery from thecubed. I tried WCX but I couldn't get any ROM's to flash with it... nothing but bootloops for some strange reason (yes I fastboot flashed the boot.img first people). I reflashed thecubed's recovery right after having issues and flashing ROM's worked again. I'm sticking with what works and I've had zero issues with thecubed's recovery after using for several months.
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Did you use the recovery un-installer to get rid of CWM before you tried the WCX recovery? I remember some people having issues trying to use WCX over one of the previous CWMs without un-installing it first.

Actually your incorrect,its available freely from the rooting flashing thread on here...as far as earning something....dont like participation dont use my work either way tomorrows another day and life goes on now doesnt it....theres no entitilement to [email protected] "earned" comment....
WC
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You have to download from WildChild's website.... It's included in his ROM zip. You have to have 10 posts on his site before you can download anything so be prepared to "earn" the download.
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Some people just throw stuff out like they know what's going on... Wow get facts right first bro

Y'know if CWM loops, it's because your rom of choice had a useless ext4 performance tuning script in it that changed some of the mount options of /cache.
If you have CWM and find that after flashing a ROM that does weird things to your Vivid, just reboot to fastboot, then issue "fastboot erase cache" then boot to recovery and format /cache.
CWM hasn't caused any hard bricks, it's ROM developers that aren't properly checking their 'init.d tweaks' and updater-scripts. Now that we have s-off, a bad tweak or updater-script can and WILL make your phone hard to fix.

just used TWRP on my Sprint Gnex and love the interface! I used CWM on my old Epic 4G and it worked great too. To me, seeing all the options on that screen is easier....seems stable.
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Great point but how would the average Joe know that about a rom before a flash? I'd love to be able to know that and avoid bricking altogether (but wouldn't we all). any tips?

Wild Child said:
Actually your incorrect,its available freely from the rooting flashing thread on here...as far as earning something....dont like participation dont use my work either way tomorrows another day and life goes on now doesnt it....theres no entitilement to [email protected] "earned" comment....
WC
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I don't mind participation... I just find it hard to participate in a forum where I can't download anything. Kind of hard to comment on something that you can't download IMO.
robertmoore208 said:
Some people just throw stuff out like they know what's going on... Wow get facts right first bro
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Not sure if this was directed at me but I'll assume it is. WC closed all of his dev threads on XDA (Vivid forum at least) which is why I assumed it wasn't here anymore (yes I searched before replying). Not sure that I've ever seen dev related content stuck in a [GUIDE] thread (maybe a link to the thread that has it) so not sure why this was the place chosen and probably why I missed it. Apparently I'm not the only one since I've seen multiple people asking who can't find it. I appreciate you keeping me honest though "bro".

Archector said:
What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
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WCX all the way, ROM's, Recovery, & Kernel. Now, I'm not trying to say that CWM doesn't work, I used it alot when I was rooting & flashing my Aria... but I've had nothing but 100% success using WCX Recovery & ROM's since before I started beta testing for him (along with all the other dedicated members).
I've never used TWRP before, & all I think about when I see that word is Big Booty Shaking!!! ;-)

WCX! I have to say that EVERYTHING that he and his team put out is top notch!

NEXUS 7 3G-"nakasig" - Jelly Bean/KitKat Discussions, Problems and Solutions

NEXUS 7 3G-"nakasig" - Jelly Bean/KitKat Discussions, Problems and Solutions
Hi Nexus 7 "Nakasig" users,
I would like to consider this thread as your one place to chat or anything else related to Jelly Bean on the NEXUS 7 - 3G
I need everyone help to keep this thread somewhat sane, report any trolling or flaming and don't respond to it.
Keep all your posts in this thread polite and make sure you follow The Forum Rules.
I request you to stop posting:
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These kind of posts are useless instead use the thanks button to show your appreciation
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For all your JB needs, go to:
==>[Index] All for NEXUS 7 - "Nakasig" - (GSM/HSPA+)
==>[GUIDE] Unlock and Root a Nexus 7 3G “Nakasig- Tilapia”
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It 's a tool which is very good if you want to buy a Google Nexus Devices :good:
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Top man!
Any one got a working recovery and supersu/superuser that works with 4.2?
Since I've heard people losing 3G and stuff when they rooted, and I kinda don't want to have to set my stuff up again

WarningHPB said:
Top man!
Any one got a working recovery and supersu/superuser that works with 4.2?
Since I've heard people losing 3G and stuff when they rooted, and I kinda don't want to have to set my stuff up again
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You've probably heard that from idiots who don't know what they are doing.
The latest version of TWRP works perfectly fine with 4.2 (3G and not). I'm using it on my 3G without any issues.
And the previous 'su' binaries and apk's should be fine. Neither of them should cause any problems with the 3G functionality as they have nothing to do with it. I installed custom recovery and rooted mine the day I got it. Everything is perfect.
Also, absolute worst case scenario, if you do screw something up, it's easy to revert without losing all of your data.

Hmm...I don't consider myself an idiot but did nothing more sinister than root and flash CWM and lost cellular data functionality completely at random two days later (unknown baseband). Had about 6 Android devices before this going back to HTC Hero, flashed all sorts, and never seen anything like it. Eventually had to flash factory image to get it back. Not especially helpful as inexplicable and not reproduced but worth saying nonetheless.

dave_uk said:
Hmm...I don't consider myself an idiot but did nothing more sinister than root and flash CWM and lost cellular data functionality completely at random two days later (unknown baseband). Had about 6 Android devices before this going back to HTC Hero, flashed all sorts, and never seen anything like it. Eventually had to flash factory image to get it back. Not especially helpful as inexplicable and not reproduced but worth saying nonetheless.
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FYI, there seems to be a sporadic bug in JB on my GNex where on certain reboots it says Unknown Baseband and IMEI in the About menu, and then on the next reboot it's fine. I am wondering if that same bug is cropping up on the N7, and it's just coincidentally happening on some people's devices after rooting, but it goes away later. On my GNex this issue is particularly noticeable if I gave the phone a full reboot from inside software (e.g. using the app Easy Reboot). Whereas a power off / power on does not as frequently run into this issue.

I'm looking forward to getting mine Ordered today and it shipped today! I'm going to give my 16gb (bought in Aug for $249 so no price mod for me ) to either my GF or my daughter. lol
Sorry for the OT post.. I'm just excited. It will be nice to not have to tether my N7 to my phone. I just switched to the shared data plan on AT&T so it will only cost me $10 to add the N7 to my plan

Just fired up my 3g and will root it tomorrow, is there anything really different in rooting this thing vs the 16gb, anything I should watch out for?

kitsunisan said:
Just fired up my 3g and will root it tomorrow, is there anything really different in rooting this thing vs the 16gb, anything I should watch out for?
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No, they are identical from a rooting perspective. However, they do run slightly different versions of the image, so if you wind up flashing stock, use the right one.

so first my success, i have managed to get root and a TWRP recovery.
now my question in menus im seeing horizontal lines that move with the landscape. so as the phone rotates the screen, the lines also rotate. maybe its just the background design but it seems really awkward to me that they would intend from these lighter brighter lines to be there

if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image

death 90 said:
if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
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I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.

death 90 said:
if someone would do me a HUGE favor and get me a stock JVP15S recovery? i flashed over mine with CWM before i could back it up and now i have a 34mg OTA update i cant take because of the custom recovery image
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I don't have my N7 yet, but on most Androids the stock recovery images do not vary much or at all between minor upgrades, so any stock recovery should be fine. Try the recovery.img inside the JOP40C image straight from Google. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasigjop40c
Worst case if the update still won't take, flash both system and boot from the stock image too (this will unroot you but so would the OTA, and you can fix that later), and then you'll be stock enough for OTAs to work the next time it prompts.
philos64 said:
I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
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The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.

philos64 said:
I'm not sure that you will find someone who can give you this file, cause it contains all personal data and apps.
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im pretty sure the "recovery" partition doesn't contain any of those things. i don't want a stock rom, i need stock a recovery. twrp allows you to back up certain partitions such as boot, cache, and recovery
cmstlist said:
I don't have my N7 yet, but on most Androids the stock recovery images do not vary much or at all between minor upgrades, so any stock recovery should be fine. Try the recovery.img inside the JOP40C image straight from Google. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasigjop40c
Worst case if the update still won't take, flash both system and boot from the stock image too (this will unroot you but so would the OTA, and you can fix that later), and then you'll be stock enough for OTAs to work the next time it prompts.
The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
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i just downloaded that ill try flashing it now i downloaded the "Google Nexus 7 Toolkit" and while it didn't work for me, it did provide a JRo03d stock recovery which i flashed with fastboot and that recovery did not work. when you nexus 7 arrives i believe it would be possible to recover the stock recovery using "fastboot boot twrp-recovery", ALTHOUGH im not sure when you would execute the "backup recovery" if it would read the phones actual partition or the image you uploaded and booted on

cmstlist said:
The recovery partition does not contain any personal data or apps. Everything personal is in /data.
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Sorry for my quick answer, I haven't seen the "recovery.img". that's file system.zip or tar which contains apps and data for restore
And if you want the Factory image, go to the thread : [Index] All for NEXUS 7 - "nakasig" - (GSM/HSPA+) , it is on, ready for download

ya i grabbed it thanks. what i don't understand is what the 34mg update is for? any ideas? i uploaded two shots, one settings page showing the build mine shipped with and the other is just the update screen i got showing size. Im about to flash the stock ROM from google now. we'll see how goes

the 34mg update was "signed-nakasig-JOP40C-from-JVP15S". i was able to flash the recovery from the stock ROM JOP40C and use that to patch through android and avoid flashing usuing TWRP

death 90 said:
im pretty sure the "recovery" partition doesn't contain any of those things. i don't want a stock rom, i need stock a recovery. twrp allows you to back up certain partitions such as boot, cache, and recovery
i just downloaded that ill try flashing it now i downloaded the "Google Nexus 7 Toolkit" and while it didn't work for me, it did provide a JRo03d stock recovery which i flashed with fastboot and that recovery did not work. when you nexus 7 arrives i believe it would be possible to recover the stock recovery using "fastboot boot twrp-recovery", ALTHOUGH im not sure when you would execute the "backup recovery" if it would read the phones actual partition or the image you uploaded and booted on
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Honestly don't try toolkits. Just don't, because you don't know what commands or files they are really flashing, and especially because they were written for the wi-fi version. The stock recovery from the wi-fi version is not guaranteed to be compatible with the 3G version.
philos64 said:
Sorry for my quick answer, I haven't seen the "recovery.img". that's file system.zip or tar which contains apps and data for restore
And if you want the Factory image, go to the thread : [Index] All for NEXUS 7 - "nakasig" - (GSM/HSPA+) , it is on, ready for download
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System.img is also devoid of personal information because to the standard end user it is write-protected. All the personal stuff is in the data partition.
death 90 said:
the 34mg update was "signed-nakasig-JOP40C-from-JVP15S". i was able to flash the recovery from the stock ROM JOP40C and use that to patch through android and avoid flashing usuing TWRP
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Glad it worked out for you. I had a feeling it was just going to give you JOP40C anyway.

So, I have been trying to root my 3G tablet (JOP40C), but have no luck. I installed TWRP and unlocked just fine using the Google Nexus 7 ToolKit 3.2. When I use the toolkit to root it seems like it is doing everything fine, reboots, and I do not see any errors during the process. However, when I access Titanium backup, or Root Checker it cannot gain root access. I have tried all the options in the toolkit and nothing is working. Can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks!

spongers said:
So, I have been trying to root my 3G tablet (JOP40C), but have no luck. I installed TWRP and unlocked just fine using the Google Nexus 7 ToolKit 3.2. When I use the toolkit to root it seems like it is doing everything fine, reboots, and I do not see any errors during the process. However, when I access Titanium backup, or Root Checker it cannot gain root access. I have tried all the options in the toolkit and nothing is working. Can anyone give me some pointers? Thanks!
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Yes - Don't use a toolkit!
Since you already have a custom recovery, put the attached file on your sdcard and install it using TWRP. Then you should be good to go.

Android L Developer Preview Install in 13 Easy Steps

Hi everyone,
there are obviously tons of Android L threads already, but I wanted to post simple instructions for getting the developer preview up and running and also back to your previous version.
Without talking much more, here are the steps...
1. Make sure you have a custom recovery installed (I suggest TWRP 2.7.0.0 or higher, I did not test with CWM so caution for those users)
2. Make a full nandroid backup (System, Data, Boot) of your current system. After the backup completes, restart your device and copy the nandroid backup file to your PC. (The file should be located in the TWRP/Backup section of your device)
3. Make sure you have Android SDK installed, https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html (Open SDK Manager and check off Android SDK tools, platform-tools, and build-tools as well as the entire section of Android L. Click Install packages and make sure that all of those files install)
4. Download and extract the Developer Package from here http://developer.android.com/preview/setup-sdk.html#top (the download link is under step 1 in the "Install the L Preview System image" section)
5. Place the extracted Developer Package files into your platform-tools folder of your SDK folder location
7. Boot your device into fastboot mode by powering off and then powering back up by holding Volume Up + Down + Power (Let the device stay in this mode during the entire process)
8. Open command prompt and type "chdir (copy and paste the file directory of your platform-tools folder here)"
9. Type "adb start-server" this is just to ensure adb is running. Then, while still in the directory of your platform-tools folder, type "flash-all" (You may get errors with it unable to flash some ".sig" files, but that is ok. (After the files flash, your phone will automatically reboot to the boot animation, if you are on this screen for a while, just be patient. The first boot takes quite a while do to the change to ART)
Your phone should now be running on Android L. The next steps will be for returning back to your previous install, while also backing up Android L and being able to switch between the 2. Installing Android L deletes your custom recovery that you had and replaces it with a stock one. In order to make backups and return to your previous system, you must reinstall TWRP or CWM which is explained below.
10. You can install TWRP simply by using the Nexus Root Toolkit by WugFresh XDA Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475 Mirror: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Mobile-Phone-Tools/Others/Galaxy-Nexus-Root-Toolkit.shtml (Open the Toolkit and click Launch under Advanced Utilities. Then, under Boot/Flash Image click the Flash (Permanent) radio and click recovery. Select latest TWRP and follow the instructions.
11. After TWRP installs, make a backup of your current system (Android L)
12. Reboot your device, when powered up, place your first backup that you made (Before "L") into your TWRP/Backups folder.
13. Now in TWRP you have both your L backup and your old backup. You can restore either and then switch between the 2.
14. Enjoy (Give thanks if this helped you) Thank you!!

Out of curiosity can we do multiboot with stock 4.4.4 and Android "L"? Any one tried?
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I am unsure of that especially because of the differences in radios and such. That's why I like this method because it's probably the closest I know how to get to it.
monilchheda said:
Out of curiosity can we do multiboot with stock 4.4.4 and Android "L"? Any one tried?
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Hmm. Thanks
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My only question to @bcollado is why not just do fastboot flash recovery command for TWRP?! Faster than using a tool kit.

the.emilio said:
My only question to @bcollado is why not just do fastboot flash recovery command for TWRP?! Faster than using a tool kit.
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some people dont know how to do things the right way. many think that root toolkits are easier and faster(when, for any nexus, they are not).

simms22 said:
some people dont know how to do things the right way. many think that root toolkits are easier and faster(when, for any nexus, they are not).
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fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-hammerhead-hhz11k.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot flash radio radio-hammerhead-m8974a-2.0.50.2.08.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot -w update image-hammerhead-lpv79.zip
there you have "L". lol

I just figured this guide is aimed towards those who wouldn't know how to do that, obviously it can be done either way, but I assumed if you knew to do it manually, that you could choose to do it that way.
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My only question to @bcollado is why not just do fastboot flash recovery command for TWRP?! Faster than using a tool kit.
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Can anyone check to see if they have the Gallery? I had to download QuickPic to view my stuff. But I'm thinking maybe its with Picasa photos app but I removed it from my screen and now I can't find that app.. Can anyone help please. I don't like using 3rd party apps if I already have one working just fine.. Thank you.
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Not the place to ask...but gallery is currently not in the developer preview and might be taken out of android when the release gets finalized, but no one knows. Right now the "Photos" app is included and thats basically the new gallery for now at least
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Can anyone check to see if they have the Gallery? I had to download QuickPic to view my stuff. But I'm thinking maybe its with Picasa photos app but I removed it from my screen and now I can't find that app.. Can anyone help please. I don't like using 3rd party apps if I already have one working just fine.. Thank you.
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bcollado said:
I just figured this guide is aimed towards those who wouldn't know how to do that, obviously it can be done either way, but I assumed if you knew to do it manually, that you could choose to do it that way.
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If they don't know how to do that, why the hell are they flashing the developer preview image? 99% of users are already taking the developer preview as a consumer release, and that is NOT what it is meant for.
If you don't know how to do it - then it's not damn meant for you.

I hate that attitude....I agree that people need to understand that it's not a consumer release. I 100% agree with that, but that doesn't mean people who don't know how shouldn't be able to check out the new features if they want, just because they don't know how. This is the whole point of this thread...so people can check out the new features on "L" and then go right back to where they were with no issues...please no more flaming on the fact that if people don't know how then they shouldn't, not on this thread anyway
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If they don't know how to do that, why the hell are they flashing the developer preview image? 99% of users are already taking the developer preview as a consumer release, and that is NOT what it is meant for.
If you don't know how to do it - then it's not damn meant for you.
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bcollado said:
I agree that people need to understand that it's not a consumer release. I 100% agree with that, but that doesn't mean people who don't know how shouldn't be able to check out the new features if they want, just because they don't know how.
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That's a little bit of contradiction, don't you think?

Lethargy said:
That's a little bit of contradiction, don't you think?
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Not at all...anyone who wants should be able to view new features, they just have to understand that it's not a final release and that it isn't meant to be used as such. Anyone who doesn't know how to do something and is brave enough to risk it and attempt to, deserves to learn

bcollado said:
Not at all...anyone who wants should be able to view new features, they just have to understand that it's not a final release and that it isn't meant to be used as such. Anyone who doesn't know how to do something and is brave enough to risk it and attempt to, deserves to learn
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Unfortunately that isn't how it actually happens.. we wish it did, but it doesn't. As I said previously, 99% that are using it are already taking it as a "consumer release", most don't even know how to flash the .img files in fastboot and are just using a flashable zip.. not even doing it properly as it should be.

One question, can I dirty flash over 4.4.4 ??

onesolo said:
One question, can I dirty flash over 4.4.4 ??
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You can, but it breaks things such as the lockscreen. I don't know what exactly breaks, but reading from the thread in General a bunch of things do. I recommend a proper clean flash.

onesolo said:
One question, can I dirty flash over 4.4.4 ??
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you can. but i would not until i would make a backup in recovery. and the same for you. if you dirty flash, and have issues, you can always restore the backup and flash again with a wipe
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Lethargy said:
You can, but it breaks things such as the lockscreen. I don't know what exactly breaks, but reading from the thread in General a bunch of things do. I recommend a proper clean flash.
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:silly:

sure, I never flash a thing without first make a full backup...
I also forgot to ask, after I flash, does this wipe my sdcard??

onesolo said:
sure, I never flash a thing without first make a full backup...
I also forgot to ask, after I flash, does this wipe my sdcard??
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no, not if you dont wipe it. but i have read today of some people having issues of the phone seeing the storage. then they flashed back, and the storage was visable again.

Nexus 6 coming tomorrow

Guys I just have a question,
I will be receiving my nexus 6 tomorrow and I plan on unlocking the boot loader and rooting it, but what I am curious about from reading all the threads is a few things.
1) I plan on using adb to unlock boot loader and root
2) I plan on using flashify to install twrp so i can be able to get a backup of the stock recovery
My question is this. I plan on installing cm12 on my device and i like the idea of having my device descrpyted. I am told I have to flash the script I believe made by chainfire, but i also read u can flash another kernel. Which would i have to do? I read some say that u have to do the one made by chainfire first, and others said u just have to flash another kernel.
Also since the cm12 comes encrypted as default and lets say I "dont" want to descrypt do I have to before I flash cm12 even though its set as default encrpyted just like stock?

the_rooter said:
1) I plan on using adb to unlock boot loader and root
2) I plan on using flashify to install twrp so i can be able to get a backup of the stock recovery
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1) You'll need to use fastboot to unlock the bootloader. YOu'll then need to use fastboot to flash the recovery. If you're going to flash a rom, you may not need to then root as some roms are already rooted
2) flashify needs root to flash the recovery and you need the recovery to flash root.

What chain fire thing? Chain fire doesn't have anything in relation to encryption from what I know. Go to Android development and find the unencrypt thread and from there you'll find out how to unencrypt.
Do note that your data will be wiped. You'll have to flash a custom kernel before your phone starts up otherwise your phone will be encrypted again.
Most custom kernels have encryption patches to accelerate the encryption i/o speeds. You're better off just leaving it enabled if you want to keep things simple.
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rootSU said:
1) You'll need to use fastboot to unlock the bootloader. YOu'll then need to use fastboot to flash the recovery. If you're going to flash a rom, you may not need to then root as some roms are already rooted
2) flashify needs root to flash the recovery and you need the recovery to flash root.
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If i remember from previous devices doesnt flashify allow backup of the stock recovery? and also it flashes twrp within the app as long as root is done.
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Also I wasnt sure who made the descrypt file to flash, and yes i know it does a FDR, but wouldnt it be better just to flash a custom kernel? Most kernels are already descrypted. Sorry if i repeated anything.

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If i remember from previous devices doesnt flashify allow backup of the stock recovery? and also it flashes twrp within the app as long as root is done.
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Yes, but you wont have root at that point so, no...

rootSU said:
Yes, but you wont have root at that point so, no...
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i am honestly not trying to pick a fight and i thank you for taking your time to help me out but if i follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
That gives me root via fastboot up to the end of obtaining root and not doing custom recovery.
Within flashify i know u can back up the stock recovery, and then flash twrp. After i flash twrp i will be making a back up of my system just in case something goes wrong.
That sound correct? I prolly will give a few days and wait till my usb otg sd adapter to get here before i actually flash a rom. Sorry should have mentioned that.

the_rooter said:
i am honestly not trying to pick a fight and i thank you for taking your time to help me out but if i follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
That gives me root via fastboot up to the end of obtaining root and not doing custom recovery.
Within flashify i know u can back up the stock recovery, and then flash twrp. After i flash twrp i will be making a back up of my system just in case something goes wrong.
That sound correct? I prolly will give a few days and wait till my usb otg sd adapter to get here before i actually flash a rom. Sorry should have mentioned that.
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That uses a script to flash root... But lets break down your steps...
fastboot unlock
run script
boot into android
install flashify
flash recovery
Download rom
reboot recovery
flash rom
vs my steps...
fastboot unlock
fastboot flash recovery
put rom on sdcard
flash rom
It doesnt matter if you backup your stock recovery, because its all available on the google site anyway as this is a nexus device.

rootSU said:
That uses a script to flash root... But lets break down your steps...
fastboot unlock
run script
boot into android
install flashify
flash recovery
Download rom
reboot recovery
flash rom
vs my steps...
fastboot unlock
fastboot flash recovery
put rom on sdcard
flash rom
It doesnt matter if you backup your stock recovery, because its all available on the google site anyway as this is a nexus device.
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thanks man that helps alot. Now still on the confusing about the encrypt and decrypt. Whats the advantages to disadvantages? because from what i here people say it should be decrpyted, and that i have to follow the step set up in that thread to do so, but wouldnt like i said before just be as easier to just flash a decrpyted kernel and be done with it?
Edit: Sorry with all the questions this is my first nexus device since i am on verizon.

the_rooter said:
thanks man that helps alot. Now still on the confusing about the encrypt and decrypt. Whats the advantages to disadvantages? because from what i here people say it should be decrpyted, and that i have to follow the step set up in that thread to do so, but wouldnt like i said before just be as easier to just flash a decrpyted kernel and be done with it?
Edit: Sorry with all the questions this is my first nexus device since i am on verizon.
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Do some reading off XDA on what encryption is and its advantages/disadvantages.
To be simplistic,
Encryption pro: more protection with your data
Encryption disadvantage: slower I/O speed
(Most custom kernels include patches that accelerate the speed of I/O with encryption on, Google's stock kernel does not include this)
Decryption pro: faster I/O speeds, possible increase in battery life as your phone is not using clock cycles to perform encryption (not by much, if any)
Decrypton disadvantage: less protection with your data, but if you're not carrying sensitive data, then who cares.
My suggestion to you is to leave it encrypted and if you don't notice anything slowing down then leave it. Keep it simple.

zephiK said:
Do some reading off XDA on what encryption is and its advantages/disadvantages.
To be simplistic,
Encryption pro: more protection with your data
Encryption disadvantage: slower I/O speed
(Most custom kernels include patches that accelerate the speed of I/O with encryption on, Google's stock kernel does not include this)
Decryption pro: faster I/O speeds, possible increase in battery life as your phone is not using clock cycles to perform encryption (not by much, if any)
Decrypton disadvantage: less protection with your data, but if you're not carrying sensitive data, then who cares.
My suggestion to you is to leave it encrypted and if you don't notice anything slowing down then leave it. Keep it simple.
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Thanks for you help guys. With this being my first nexus phone i think i understand now.

the_rooter said:
Thanks for you help guys. With this being my first nexus phone i think i understand now.
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Once a Nexus you won't go back Nexus devices are the devices to be on XDA, traffic is a lot higher here than the other phones.

zephiK said:
Once a Nexus you won't go back Nexus devices are the devices to be on XDA, traffic is a lot higher here than the other phones.
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well yeah but like i said i am on big red and this is the first nexus device they are allowing since the gnex days

Easy to follow Root Steps for Stock Android 6.0?

Hi Everyone
I have recently returned my Nexus 6 back to stock from Rooted 5.1.X roms by manually flashing the official google Marshmallow images. Now that 6.0 Roms are making their way out, I would like to get back to having the ability to flash the different roms. However, I am a little confused on how to successfully and easily accomplish the root and TWRP install process. I see that some of the new 6.0 ROMS say they are rooted, but I am confused on what that means.
Does anyone have a link or steps with links that you can provide so I can get my Nexus 6 ready to have custom roms flashed?
Thanks in advance!

TPADroid said:
Hi Everyone
I have recently returned my Nexus 6 back to stock from Rooted 5.1.X roms by manually flashing the official google Marshmallow images. Now that 6.0 Roms are making their way out, I would like to get back to having the ability to flash the different roms. However, I am a little confused on how to successfully and easily accomplish the root and TWRP install process. I see that some of the new 6.0 ROMS say they are rooted, but I am confused on what that means.
Does anyone have a link or steps with links that you can provide so I can get my Nexus 6 ready to have custom roms flashed?
Thanks in advance!
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First this does not belong in the Development sections, moved here. Secondly please read the Forum Rules on posting...thanks.

Thank you for moving to the appropriate location.

as it is for every nexus, regardless of what android version youre on..
1. unlock your bootloader
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery
3. flash the latest supersu in twrp recovery
4. reboot with root
on marshmallow, with the stock rom, you will also want to flash a custom kernel with as well.

Well you need an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery to flash custom roms.
1. Make sure that you have OEM unlock ticked in dev options
2. Use fastboot oem unlock command to unlock bootloader (this will wipe your phone completely, make a backup before doing this)
3. Use fastboot to flash twrp recovery
4. If you would like to keep stock rom and have root then you need to flash root script from chainfire or install custom rom with root already built in
5. Download and flash any rom of your choice (You can use adb sideload to sideload roms instead of having to copy them to the phone to flash)
Here is a good place to start to learn how http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481

simms22 said:
as it is for every nexus, regardless of what android version youre on..
1. unlock your bootloader
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery
3. flash the latest supersu in twrp recovery
4. reboot with root
on marshmallow, with the stock rom, you will also want to flash a custom kernel with as well.
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Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!

TPADroid said:
Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!
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The boot.img files that your referring to are probably to un-encrypt your phone. I personally don't but other always have. Supposed to make it faster although i haven't been bothered by it being slow.
To unlock the bootloader all you have to do is used fastboot oem unlock via fastboot while your phone is in the bootloader mode.

You don't need a custom kernel anymore thanks to Chainfire. Just use the Nexus root kit. Be sure to change the root settings in the NRK to approve beta SuperSu by Chainfire as stated in wugfresh Google+ post in step 3.
plus.google.com/u/0/113329792100896065459/posts/93WR63UHuEp[

mbiscuits said:
You don't need a custom kernel anymore thanks to Chainfire. Just use the Nexus root kit. Be sure to change the root settings in the NRK to approve beta SuperSu by Chainfire as stated in wugfresh Google+ post in step 3.
plus.google.com/u/0/113329792100896065459/posts/93WR63UHuEp[
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no more kernel then, cool. but this is not a good idea to tell a newbie to use a toolkit, as he wont learn a single thing about , ever. and root toolkits mess up on occasion. they mess up enough to make a newbie think they bricked their phone. sure, chances are that everything will be fine, but the op will come out of it learning absolutely nothing, when the proper way is very easy and faster.
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TPADroid said:
Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!
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thats a kernel thatll let you unencrypt, if you want.

simms22 said:
no more kernel then, cool. but this is not a good idea to tell a newbie to use a toolkit, as he wont learn a single thing about , ever. and root toolkits mess up on occasion. they mess up enough to make a newbie think they bricked their phone. sure, chances are that everything will be fine, but the op will come out of it learning absolutely nothing, when the proper way is very easy and faster.
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He did say easy and it doesn't get any easier than the toolkit. But if you want to do it manually follow the easy to read instructions found here: androidmarvel.com/index.php/2015/10/15/402/

mbiscuits said:
He did say easy and it doesn't get any easier than the toolkit. But if you want to do it manually follow the easy to read instructions found here: androidmarvel.com/index.php/2015/10/15/402/
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sure, the manual way is MUCH easier than the toolkit. is it hard typing fastboot oem unlock? is it hard typing fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img? well, thats it. i just unlocked my bootloader and flashed the recovery.

simms22 said:
sure, the manual way is MUCH easier than the toolkit. is it hard typing fastboot oem unlock? is it hard typing fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img? well, thats it. i just unlocked my bootloader and flashed the recovery.
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I agree with you IF you know what you are doing and have everything setup. However that didn't seem to be the case which is why I recommended the toolkit.

mbiscuits said:
I agree with you IF you know what you are doing and have everything setup. However that didn't seem to be the case which is why I recommended the toolkit.
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which is why i always recommend that someone new root their phone the proper way the first time, to learn how to do it, and to learn a general way to fix your phone in case you mess up. after the first time, use toolkits all you want. but the learning how to do it properly is a very important.

TPADroid said:
Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!
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That modified img allows for root because you cant just flash SU on the stock one (not yet anyway). Unlocking the bootloader is something different.

simms22 said:
sure, the manual way is MUCH easier than the toolkit. is it hard typing fastboot oem unlock? is it hard typing fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img? well, thats it. i just unlocked my bootloader and flashed the recovery.
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Anybody knows where is the correct toolkit?

cpugeeker said:
Anybody knows where is the correct toolkit?
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in my opening, there is no 'correct" toolkit.

Jnewell05 said:
Well you need an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery to flash custom roms.
1. Make sure that you have OEM unlock ticked in dev options
2. Use fastboot oem unlock command to unlock bootloader (this will wipe your phone completely, make a backup before doing this)
3. Use fastboot to flash twrp recovery
4. If you would like to keep stock rom and have root then you need to flash root script from chainfire or install custom rom with root already built in
5. Download and flash any rom of your choice (You can use adb sideload to sideload roms instead of having to copy them to the phone to flash)
Here is a good place to start to learn how http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
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Hey thanks for all of this information. So far I'm stuck on step 2. I'm about a year into owning this phone and don't want to lose everything. One of the main reasons I want to root is to use titanium backup. However, you say to be sure to back up your phone. How do you recommend doing this.

jtmartin22 said:
Hey thanks for all of this information. So far I'm stuck on step 2. I'm about a year into owning this phone and don't want to lose everything. One of the main reasons I want to root is to use titanium backup. However, you say to be sure to back up your phone. How do you recommend doing this.
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If you haven't rooted for over a year why do it now? There are sure to be updates to how to root on the Nexus 6 and since I don't use my nexus 6 very much I hate to steer you in the wrong direction, as to backup information. I recently got the android 7.0 update and I haven't really had a chance to check it out yet. But I bet there are dozens of ways to backup if you would search Google.
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jtmartin22 said:
Hey thanks for all of this information. So far I'm stuck on step 2. I'm about a year into owning this phone and don't want to lose everything. One of the main reasons I want to root is to use titanium backup. However, you say to be sure to back up your phone. How do you recommend doing this.
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By unlocking the phone you lose everything. That's why when buying a Nexus phone, the first step should be unlocking the bootloader.
But if you want to root it anyway, then you should copy all your media and camera files to your computer. Then if you unlock it, you'll only lose some app settings. Most apps save to the cloud anyway. You can backup your text messages, and Google backups a lot of data like wallpapers or WiFi passwords. Also it will reinstall all your use apps, and since Marshmallow it will restore some app data, but that's far from consistent. For that you really need TB.

istperson said:
By unlocking the phone you lose everything. That's why when buying a Nexus phone, the first step should be unlocking the bootloader.
But if you want to root it anyway, then you should copy all your media and camera files to your computer. Then if you unlock it, you'll only lose some app settings. Most apps save to the cloud anyway. You can backup your text messages, and Google backups a lot of data like wallpapers or WiFi passwords. Also it will reinstall all your use apps, and since Marshmallow it will restore some app data, but that's far from consistent. For that you really need TB.
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Thank you very much!!!!