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WP7 on the N1???

Did someone try porting the WP7 to the N1??

Not possible.

More importantly... WHY?
That'd be like taking the motor out of a Honda Civic and sticking it in a Lamborghini Gallardo. Fail.

Clarkster said:
Not possible.
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But why? The HD2 seems to be working?

djstoffe said:
But why? The HD2 seems to be working?
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he has a point

I think it could be a great idea, because, for example, I really want our Nexus One to be like the HTC HD2! Been able to "work" also with other OSes..
Plus, Windows Phone 7 seems to be very snappy and minimal!
Android is obviously better, but I really want to try the Seven

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There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
I think the HD7 is pretty much the same device as the HD2?

Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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First of all I'm glad to know that my curiosirty has interest with other people as well.
second, the reason for the WHY is of course curiosity, and the fact that the N1 is a capable device and it'll be interesting to see how it would function with other OS.
Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market thanx to all the devs to bring out the real potential of the LEO.wish all htc devices was able to do that.i would rather try wp7 on my hd2 rather than my n1.hd2 is fully functional android just like every other native androids and its running better than my n1.
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I with I had the money to carry as much devices as I wanted to.
That's the reason I wanted the N1, and Android for that matter, to be flexible...

athornz said:
There was another thread asking the same question and someone said only its possible to port WP7 to a android phone if there already exists a WP7 which is basically the same device with WP7 on it.
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That's handy then, as teardowns show the HTC Surround is basically a Nexus One.

HD2 runs Android awfully, compared to N1. I couldn't stand looking at it stuttering all over the place where N1 flies.
The other problem for this port is bootloader and FS compatibility. While it could probably be overcome, it might not be straightforward, just as it's quite hard to install Windows and Linux on the same partition, both using different native FS. On WM phones there is many-years-old way of loading other systems "under" Windows (I'm not really into details, but AFAIK the other system doesn't load from bootloader, but from early stages of WM kernel - which is the reason why WM-loaded OSes run like crap). On Android phones, it doesn't work that way, and there is no universally used way of loading other OSes.
And the biggest problem for all the curious would probably be just that no dev has taken interest in doing it.

if HTC 7 Surround is simular to N1, is it possible to port the whole bootloader and system of surround to N1. and and run Android "on the top" of WP7 just like what HD2 does

this could be a very very interesting project... as there are quite a few developers currently working on a WP7 like launcher for android. and if we could run wp7 it would be a pretty amazing.

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Hd2 is the greatest HTC device in the market
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that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one

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that is actually provably false due to the fact the HD2 is TMobile-only. the devs have squeezed every ounce out of it no doubt, but for a phone to be the greatest HTC device it would have to be available across all GSM networks, not just the B-list one
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The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.

miketlo said:
The HD2 is not Tmobile only... Tmobile was the last carrier to get it lol. The HD2 is available on all GSM networks even ATT if you import an aussie or canadian version.
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for AT&T 3G?
Edit: Ok, I guess the Telstra HD2 had AT&T 3G bands, so you could import the phone at a premium. i can't find it on Ebay, but the Cell2Get.com has it for a reasonable $831.99. it better be the greatest ever

I would love trying wp7 on my nexus. The OS interests me, not enough though to shell out for an entire new phone. Especially since all the wp7 phones really aren't special hardware wise.
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So....
What does it take to port an OS??
do we need a new bootloader? do we need the WP7 source code?

You will never get WP7 source code.
I guess you'd need a complete dump from the Surround to work from.

[Q] Why HTC LOVE not to upgrade the previous HTC Devices even though they are able?

[Q] Why HTC LOVE not to upgrade the previous HTC Devices even though they are able to support the software??

Because they can sell new phones.
Have patience.

htc is actually one of the better companies when it comes to upgrades on older phones. I hear sony or motorola customers get no love.

I guess being better doesn't translate to being good at updating previous models. It's all about making a sale.
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Cause if every single HTC device have right of upgrade, what's the point of new devices from HTC ? This forces people to buy new products. Hope you understant

like i said, it's all about the sale

They sell a device, support a few updates for a while, perhaps after that one or two updates spread out, then they do focus on the sale of newer devices almost exclusively.
HTC is better than some companies, and at least they have made lots of hardware that can support better software, because we can enjoy the great work of independent developers like those on xda to give us lots of options. We don't have to rely on HTC that way!
Go open source!
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I will be happy if HTC just gives out drivers to stop the camera lag in AOSP ROMs, that's all I ask

I found that app in sensation forum...it is force closing on all the roms except virtuos unity one. It won't even run on the IS official sense 3.0 update.
Anyone knows how we can port it???

You should be happy, as HTC is actually releasing updates...go to Huawei or Motorola...the phone sells and dies with the same Rom. You'll find all sorts of unofficial Roms, but not from the manufacturers.
So, HTC is doing quite all-right, not as good as Google (from obvious reasons) but not as bad as Huawei or Motorola.

OK. once again regarding this app, does anyone have any idea how to port it?
i have the sensation qhd .apk of this app.
any one willing to resize this app for wvga?

Is there a lot of development for LG phones?

Hi,
I am thinking about getting this phone. But I am coming from the Samsung Captivate where there was a lot of development in terms of roms and what not. Do LG phones have the same amount of development as Samsung or HTC phones do? From what I have seen, it doesn't seem to have the same level of support.
Thanks

BumRush said:
Hi,
I am thinking about getting this phone. But I am coming from the Samsung Captivate where there was a lot of development in terms of roms and what not. Do LG phones have the same amount of development as Samsung or HTC phones do? From what I have seen, it doesn't seem to have the same level of support.
Thanks
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Look around and see. This phone I think it would be like the sensation xl. Poor developing.
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Its going to be quiet till we get root (which some of us are currently working on anyway) but I think this device has a lot of potential with tegra 3 as used in the HTC one x and new Asus nexus tab.
Plus availability isn't that wide spread atm. I'm importing one from Germany. But once we have root I'm going to stop just using roms as I did on my sensation and start cooking them for the 4X.

Same as O2X I think
I hope there will be as much development, as there were (and still is) for the Optimus 2X. There are developed quite a few great ROMS for that phone.
As others mention, development doesn't seem to be started yet, mostly because of lacking root, but maybe also the fact that the phone isn't available world wide yet.
I'm waiting patiently, which really isn't that difficult, as the stock ROM runs quite flawlessly.

Can you do anything for AOSP? Who knows

The same message as left on the rootzwiki AOSP thread:
HTC isn't going to be able to help if they don't know the problem (and don't assume that they do).
Everyone interested in helping who can't develop would benefit from contacting HTC on their website's contact form (which I can't link to xD) and let them know our position and why we want AOSP.
It is really easy and quick to do, and you have no reason not to if you want the current hurdles overcome.

Copy pasting and editing my response from over there:
They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.

It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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kozmikkick said:
It's not so much HTC but google as well. Google source bank doesn't support LTE. I love HTC its just the lte modem that's a pain for development. Mainly why I bought an international non LTE one x. Asop is working great on it.
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CAF has LTE support and AOSP is only meant to build for their devices. All LTE devices I have but Holiday have aosp fully functional. The issue are security checks put in by HTC on this device.
Edit: jewel has same checks as well as some other HTC 8960 devices, but they have alsa source so it's moot.

synergye said:
Copy pasting and editing my response from over there:
They won't give us the info we need. Honestly no reason to do this. Hate to be a downer especially since I was on my second vivid I only got because of this project and had high hopes we could overcome what HTC did to lock this device down re: radio firmware and security checks(bit of a debate right now over the definition of a security check). Really only recommendation I can give is to not buy HTC (might as well be Motorola) in the future.
Edit: this is akin to fuses or hyuh asking them to detail the wire trick.
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I agree with what you're saying, and things only look worse for the future. Samsung is the next greatest thing, but the Verizon GSIII got locked down (yes, it's been cracked already, but still). It'd be ignorant to think Samsung wouldn't start to lock down on other carriers. Where do we go? LG?

HTC phones to get Jelly Bean update “revealed” - no vivid

Brings back hope to some HTC owners
A rather interesting HTC update list has been leaked on Twitter showing that there is still hope that some HTC smartphones like the One S, Droid Incredible 4G and the EVO 4G will get the Jelly Bean update.
As noted, the list was leaked on Twitter by Football4PDA, a source that was proven reliable in a couple of leaks before. The list included codenames that are actually, HTC One X+, One XL, Droid Incredible 4G LTE, EVO 4G LTE, One SV, One VX, One S, One S C2 and the HTC J smartphones.
Hopefully HTC will confrim the leaked update list soon.
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http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/29783-htcs-jelly-bean-update-list-leaks
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HTC phones to get Jelly Bean update “revealed” on Twitter
by Adrian Diaconescu on Dec 10, 2012 with 8 Comments
Although it’s still a bit early to call this one, HTC seems to be on the right track for recovery after a long and painful string of financial losses. The One X+ and especially the Droid DNA might have got the Taiwanese out of the serious pickle they were in, but on the flipside the Jelly Bean upgrading process looks quite bad.
It’s been a while since the last time HTC officially tackled the “Jelly Bean situation”, and, with only one phone being currently upgraded (and rather slowly), you can say things aren’t looking good for people still on ICS.
A bittersweet piece of intelligence has just come to our attention though via Twitter, where a “list of HTC devices that will get JB update” has been posted. The info comes via @Football4PDA, an infamous and rather trustworthy source of leaks and rumors that has provided us in the past with quite a number of precious and accurate pieces of HTC-related info.
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[This time Football seems to go the extra mile to keep the suspense surrounding the “report”, listing the devices that will supposedly get JB under their not so famous codenames. Fortunately, after doing some digging, we think we know the official names of all those phones.
First off, we have the “Evitare”, which is the recently released One X+ with LTE. The thing is this big buy already runs Android 4.1, so either Football mentions it to ensure us that it’ll get 4.2 or it’s a mistake. The “Evita” is the One XL, which is basically a regional version of the One X. This was released way back in May with ICS, so a JB upgrade is definitely long overdue.
Next up we have the “Fireball”, aka Droid Incredible 4G LTE. This was a rather puzzling (barely) high-ender that hit Verizon last summer and that didn’t prove awfully popular. Then again, with Jelly Bean butter, the Incredible could finally live up to its name.
Lower on HTC’s evolutionary chain we have the “Jewel” and “Totem C2”. These are most definitely the EVO 4G LTE and One VX. Both are carrier-exclusive phones in the US, available on Sprint (the EVO) and AT&T (the VX). The One VX however has only started selling a few weeks ago, so it might be a while until it gets the 4.1 bump.
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The next three devices on the list are the Ville, Ville C2 and Valente, aka One S, One S C2 and J ISW13HT. You’re probably already familiar with the One S, while the C2 and J are more or less similar, sporting 4.3-inch displays themselves.
The One S C2 however has a 1.7 GHz dual-core CPU, while the J, as you might have guessed already, is a Japan-only mid-ranger with a 1.5 GHz processor. Last, but not necessarily least, we also have a yet to be released device on the list, the K2 or the One SV. This was supposed to come to Europe already, but for some reason it’s delayed, so there’s a (slim) possibility it could be released with Jelly Bean on board.
Now, to clarify, why did I say this is bittersweet intel? Well, mostly because of the notable absences on the list. We’ve known for a while that phones with 512 MB of RAM will not be invited to the JB party, but what about the Sensation, Desire X, Incredible S or Amaze? Sure, no one says Football’s list is a complete and definitive one, but it definitely makes you think, doesn’t it?
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http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-phones-jelly-bean-update-list-twitter-leak-137928/

The way AT&T,Rogers and Bell run things, The holiday won't get a jellybean update. Cariers have a big say in updates.

camo_flage said:
The way AT&T,Rogers and Bell run things, The holiday won't get a jellybean update. Cariers have a big say in updates.
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Yeah...that's what the whole op was pretty much about...the vivid not getting official jb
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Just as I thought, those are all sense 4.0 phones. Most likely getting sense 3.6 was a final farewell to the "old" htc phones. They'll use 4.0 as an excuse saying that these phones aren't capable of running 4 and therefore aren't possible to update.
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i think its bs that the EVO 4G is getting it and not us.. if im right the vivid is 5 months- a year newer

Evo 4G? That phone is ancient. Nexus one hardware. Are you sure they didn't mean evo 4g Lte?
FWIW I bought the wife a nook color for Christmas and it's got an omap 3 in it which is along the same type of hardware as the first generation snapdragon in the evo and jelly bean works on it but it's pretty choppy animation wise. No oem would want that on their hardware.
I'm pretty sure they were talking about the evo lte which is basically a custom made one x for sprint.
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Pssh. Who needs HTC to have Jellybean .
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h8rift said:
Pssh. Who needs HTC to have Jellybean .
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And this is pretty much how it has always been (this is why xda is here). So thank the smartphone gods you guys are smart and giving, to give us what those paid ******* wont....all a money scheme to them. Thank you devs, you really make everyone really happy (except maybe, htc lol)
TO EVERYONE: CHECK OUT THE WORKING JB (WITH MIC) IN DEV SECTION . No more waiting!!

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i think its bs that the EVO 4G is getting it and not us.. if im right the vivid is 5 months- a year newer
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Yes the article says evo 4g lte..which is a snapdragon s4. The only s3 on that list is the ville c2. If it actually gets it I may attempt a port. Don't get your hopes up though..I've never had a successful sense port lol
And tbh as smooth as the aosp builds are I don't know that I'll still have that desire once its released
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Yeah after bluetooth is done, I'd imagine using an aosp build and adding sense 4.1 wouldn't be impossible, inotherwords we could make our own update!
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homeslice976 said:
Yes the article says evo 4g lte..which is a snapdragon s4. The only s3 on that list is the ville c2. If it actually gets it I may attempt a port. Don't get your hopes up though..I've never had a successful sense port lol
And tbh as smooth as the aosp builds are I don't know that I'll still have that desire once its released
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What would be cool is if we could have aosp builds with sense in it
Sorta like desensed builds xD Except an aosp JB rom with sense 4.1 camera in it :3 Love Htc's camera app

bilibox said:
What would be cool is if we could have aosp builds with sense in it
Sorta like desensed builds xD Except an aosp JB rom with sense 4.1 camera in it :3 Love Htc's camera app
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The sense apps rely HEAVILY on sense framework. The second you start mixing sense framework, its not aosp and here come the bugs
But I love htc's camera too
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Yeah definitely its all in or all out with sense. I've come to find most of my lag issues with this phone are from mixing it up, ie using nova and freezing rosie, or using gosms instead of the sense messaging app. As soon as you start doing that, stuff starts breaking, and things get laggy.
Now I am running pure wcx stock build, and completely happy with it because I've just accepted sense. Pretty much if you don't like sense, flash a senseless or cm build. If you like parts of sense, use it all
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I too am kinda confused by this list. I looked at the specs for the HTC One S, and it's pretty much the same as the Vivid, just clocked a little higher. I'm sure the Vivid could officially run Jelly Bean, but for one thing, it would take forever to actually reach us OTA (ahem AT&T). The other reason I can think of that the Vivid isn't on the list, is that if HTC kept updating its older devices, who would buy their new ones?
Anyway, that's why I came to XDA, to see what my Vivid is truly capable of

Yeah, Vivid has been out for quite a while and wasn't very popular. So makes sense that they wouldn't bother with it.
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