So how does g1 compare to other phone competitors in terms of gpu power? Im not sure but does the iphone have a better gpu since it can play these hq 3d games? Do otehr current android phones have better gpus?
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
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G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
B-man007 said:
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
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G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
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doesnt pre have a 1ghz cpu? So droid should be capable at handling more intensive apps?
Ace42 said:
doesnt pre have a 1ghz cpu? So droid should be capable at handling more intensive apps?
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where did you hear that....
The Palm Pre's CPU is a 600 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 3430 (ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX) underclocked to 500 MHz.
Hardware-wise yes, but softwarewise, we'll see
B-man007 said:
where did you hear that....
The Palm Pre's CPU is a 600 MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 3430 (ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX) underclocked to 500 MHz.
Hardware-wise yes, but softwarewise, we'll see
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I went to a sprint store and the manager told me it had a 1Ghz, when i asked him about the specs,but i wanted i hero.
Ace42 said:
I went to a sprint store and the manager told me it had a 1Ghz, when i asked him about the specs,but i wanted i hero.
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he wanted to see a phone....never trust salesmen
B-man007 said:
GPU is located on the processor....look up the stats for them
EDIT: ill do it for you...
G1/Hero: 528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM11 processor, up to 4 million triangles/sec
3GS: PowerVR SGX GPU SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/s)
The 3GS, Droid, and Pre have the same processor/GPU
OMAP3430 - 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor)
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and how's good this omap3430 compared with the snapdragon?
PaoloWeckl said:
and how's good this omap3430 compared with the snapdragon?
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The 1gHz version has High-performance 3D graphics – up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
much more powerful..they are using these to power netbooks. it has everything on one chip (bluetooth, wifi, data, etc)
But what about the original 3g and not 3gs.
The MBX Lite is capable of providing fill rates exceeding 135 million pixels per second and a throughput of 1.7 million triangles per second, depending on configuration.
original + 3g
I'm learning to do kernel stuff, so after discovering something, I was quite shocked (in a good way, of course)
How dual Cortex A5 CPUs (MSM8225 chipset) could give such performance boost, even if I have overclocked it by only 36 Mhz (doesn't go any further than that)...
I just don't understand.
Some comparisons:
Antutu Benchmark v.5.1 - 32/64bit CPU Test
Before OC (stock 1008 Mhz):
Single Core Score: ~1700
Multi Core Score: ~3600
After OC (1036 Mhz):
Single Core Score: ~1950
Multi Core Score: ~3900
Vellamo 3.1
Before OC (Stock 1008 Mhz):
Metal: ~390
Multicore: ~560
After OC (1036 Mhz):
Metal: ~420
Multicore: ~680
And, overall, now my phone is miles snappier than it was stock.
Really strange...
A custom kernel does so much more than enable an OC. Disabling things that freezy freeze the breezy breeze..
At least it's a lot of fun seeing my phone boosted in more than one way. :3
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Sorry for this question, but I'm very confuse about gpu of I9070,some people said "s advance have single gpu" but on website official novathor u8500 said "multi core gpu process graphics 2d and 3d" So s advance have single or dual gpu ? Thanks http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/novethor-u8500/
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
Scalable from 1 to 4 cores the Mali-400 MP enables a wide range of different use cases, from mobile user interfaces up to smartphones, tablets and DTVs, to be addressed with a single IP. One single driver stack for all multi-core configurations simplifies application porting, system integration and maintenance. Multicore scheduling and performance scaling is fully handled within the graphics system, with no special considerations required from the application developer
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So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Sami Kabir said:
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for answer. It's very stranger because my galaxy S advance runs n.o.v.a 3 smooth and fast (mali400), and I have one tablet based allwinner A13 (mali 400), sometimes I got hard lags ( yes I always optimize my mb ram).
So, I went on a "boredom rampage" and I've read an article about a guy overclocking his 865 GPU to 865 MHz and reaching Adreno 660-levels of performance and I decided to give it a try and it was awesome.
Problem is, I'm too much of a thinkerer and I pushed the GPU as much as I could. I ended up on 2000 MHz with "TURBO" voltage profile and it's rock solid even on 2100 MHz with the same profile but KonaBess gives me an error if I try to edit the GPU tables after I booted at 2100 MHz.
I even edited the clock profiles to make it smoother, starting from 305 MHz to 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800 and 2000 with the right voltages.
Now, the battery and SoC temperatures are the same, the battery drain is basically the same, some other fellow modders with the same device (Mi 10T Pro 5G 8/256 with Pixel Experience Plus ROM) didn't manage to hit the same clocks, crashing even with 1000 or 1200 MHz, with my file from the KonaBess app.
So, have I been extremely lucky with the silicon lottery or it's just an illusion?
Please ask if you need ANY benchmark or proof. I've been monitoring the GPU clock with Franco Kernel Manager Live Monitoring and the clock is solid at 2000 MHz and the 3D performance has at first jumped and then slowly climbed, especially on 3DMark Wild Life Extreme. Wild Life Extreme Stress Test is stable the temperatures are fine.
Do you guys have any questions/suggestions/requests?
Edit: Here are some 3DMark runs, both Wild Life and Wild Life Extreme at stock and 2 GHz. I use Greenify, my storage is 94% full and all my processes in the background take up 4 GB of RAM and I didn't touch the bus for the various steppings for the clocks, so I believe that if heavily tuned, this could make a difference.
post before and after pictures of 3dmark.
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post before and after pictures of 3dmark.
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I have the history of all the bench on 3DMark, because I downloaded it just for this. Would that be ok?
it seems fishy, a 1ghz+ oc would increase your fps by more than that.
TOMPPIX said:
it seems fishy, a 1ghz+ oc would increase your fps by more than that.
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It doesn't have the biggest of bumps from 900 MHz to 1 GHz or 2 GHz, but still, is capable of doing it and rock solid too.
Enzucuni said:
It doesn't have the biggest of bumps from 900 MHz to 1 GHz or 2 GHz, but still, is capable of doing it and rock solid too.
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i don't think your gpu is actually running at 2ghz while you are running a benchmark. going from stock to 2ghz would at least have to give you an extra 20-30 fps in Wild Life.
TOMPPIX said:
i don't think your gpu is actually running at 2ghz while you are running a benchmark. going from stock to 2ghz would at least have to give you an extra 20-30 fps in Wild Life.
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Not necessarily. The GPU IS running at 2 GHz but I think that the problem might be some diminishing returns where the clock doesn't mean anything after a certain point.
Are you try locking the freq on 2ghz in Kernel maneger ? Set min and max to 2gzhz with performance governor .
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Are you try locking the freq on 2ghz in Kernel maneger ? Set min and max to 2gzhz with performance governor .
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I've made various frequency steps. 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800 and 2000 MHz. But if I change the governor, after I reboot, it will be msm-adreno-tz again. Max frequency is still 2000 MHz and minimum 400 MHz.
Yes after reboot is resets like on every phone you have to check apply on boot and select min 2000GHZ and max 2000ghz GPu freq in tap in FKM and set gov to performance and do benchmark like 3dmark wild life . Like that. And in Smart pack Kernel manager free app is GPU throttle turn that off.
Check box apply on boot and after boot will be apply.
And that you can show improvements of OC
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I've made various frequency steps. 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600, 1800 and 2000 MHz. But if I change the governor, after I reboot, it will be msm-adreno-tz again. Max frequency is still 2000 MHz and minimum 400 MHz.
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Can you share your Konabess txt file to import. I"m buying it I and want overclock.
astronomy2021 said:
Can you share your Konabess txt file to import. I"m buying it I and want overclock.
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Thanks What is temperature ? Do you game with that or this just experiment ?
Temperatures are roughly the same. I do game with that. On normal games, frequency stays at 400 MHz, but on really heavy games like Genshin Impact, completely maxed out, depending on the scene, the GPU goes to 1.6 or 1.8 GHz and rarely at 2 GHz during some heavy cutscenes. 3DMark keeps it at 2 GHz all the time.
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Temperatures are roughly the same. I do game with that. On normal games, frequency stays at 400 MHz, but on really heavy games like Genshin Impact, completely maxed out, depending on the scene, the GPU goes to 1.6 or 1.8 GHz and rarely at 2 GHz during some heavy cutscenes. 3DMark keeps it at 2 GHz all the time.
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That super. What ROM do you use ?
Pixel Experience Plus
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Pixel Experience Plus
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Thianks
Hello, excuse my ignorance, but I want to learn what konabess is, it's an app or a magisk module, I also have the xiaomi mi 10t pro with DotOs rum android 11 and then I want to play more fluently, could you help me
konabess app is software you can overclock GPU and undervolt.
You need root and that it.
https://github.com/libxzr/KonaBess
Here tutorial but it old I need make new one because there isn't good one tutorial about it.
This doesn't make any sense. Why would Qualcomm leave so much on the table ?