[Q] **HELP** New Nook HD questions... - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've just recently purchased the Nook HD and I did not know I was going to dislike the B&N system it runs on. I just want to run the Android system off of it and it is very difficult. I researched plenty of ways to do it, but they are all very complicated. I have an SD card. Is there an easier way to put the Android system onto my Nook?

bwhite91 said:
I've just recently purchased the Nook HD and I did not know I was going to dislike the B&N system it runs on. I just want to run the Android system off of it and it is very difficult. I researched plenty of ways to do it, but they are all very complicated. I have an SD card. Is there an easier way to put the Android system onto my Nook?
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No, if you want something besides stock you must use an SD.
I have a simple description on how to install the hybrid on the HD+ linked in my signature. I know you have an HD, so you need to follow my guide but use the files from the HD Hybrid thread. Also on the HD, the converter zip is not necessary. Just skip that step.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD

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[Q]Nook HD 8gb

I'm sorry if this has already been covered but im new to the tablet field.
I have just bought a Nook hd 8gb and want to remove the current pope interface (software) and put on a normal android 4.01 software.
Is there a simple guide on here I can follow to achieve this with stable software?
I just want google play on my nook.
Cheers.
I think you want the HD forum. This one is for the non-HD version.
Nikkiel
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NikkieL said:
I think you want the HD forum. This one is for the non-HD version.
Nikkiel
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Sorry if I'm in the wrong place but can anyone help?
Kido44 said:
Sorry if I'm in the wrong place but can anyone help?
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Take a look in the Nook HD/HD+ forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2034
Thread moved to the correct board.
Kido44 said:
Sorry if I'm in the wrong place but can anyone help?
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You cannot yet replace the stock software on the HD. And the software available on SD is only available for the HD+. The only thing you can do to the root the stock and make a few mods yo it.
Kido44 said:
Sorry if I'm in the wrong place but can anyone help?
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It sounds to me that you want a different launcher, one that looks like standard Android. You'll need to set up ADB, at least, and possibly root your HD. Then you can install a launcher like Nova or ADW and get a more standard Android look. To do that, check out Leapinlar's tips thread in the
HD/HD+ General forum. Setting up ADB may be the hardest part.
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leapinlar said:
You cannot yet replace the stock software on the HD. And the software available on SD is only available for the HD+. The only thing you can do to the root the stock and make a few mods yo it.
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Given that I am a newbie on this forum, what would I need to learn in order to help develop things on the HD? I run a linux system, have compiled kernels, went through LFS to learn about linux systems, have written basic android apps, am comfortable in C, and have played with the kitchen and modified my own ROMS with it.
Does the HD boot from the SD card? If so, what needs to be in place to get it to happen?
polymath257 said:
Given that I am a newbie on this forum, what would I need to learn in order to help develop things on the HD? I run a linux system, have compiled kernels, went through LFS to learn about linux systems, have written basic android apps, am comfortable in C, and have played with the kitchen and modified my own ROMS with it.
Does the HD boot from the SD card? If so, what needs to be in place to get it to happen?
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I see why not, I think both HD and HD+ can boot from the SD card, that said we don't own one but from the hardware and software perspective, it make more sense that way. As far as what you need to make it happen, you basically have to build your own CM10. Get CM10 source code and compile it for the HD. You probably can use the same instruction method as shown in verygreen CM10 as far as installation goes(meaning making the SD card and CWM), but the image to make SD card you have to do it yourself.
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I see why not, I think both HD and HD+ can boot from the SD card, that said we don't own one but from the hardware and software perspective, it make more sense that way. As far as what you need to make it happen, you basically have to build your own CM10. Get CM10 source code and compile it for the HD. You probably can use the same instruction method as shown in verygreen CM10 as far as installation goes(meaning making the SD card and CWM), but the image to make SD card you have to do it yourself.
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I attempted to boot in store an HD from the CWM SD card of evergreen. It booted into the stock. Now, clearly there are a lot of variables here that could go wrong. Is the required layout of the SD card the same for the HD and the HD+?
polymath257 said:
I attempted to boot in store an HD from the CWM SD card of evergreen. It booted into the stock. Now, clearly there are a lot of variables here that could go wrong. Is the required layout of the SD card the same for the HD and the HD+?
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The SD card setup for HD+ won't work on HD. Verygreen said, in another thread, that the kernels in the two devices are different. We need an SD solution designed specifically for HD.
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Windsor1959 said:
The SD card setup for HD+ won't work on HD. Verygreen said, in another thread, that the kernels in the two devices are different. We need an SD solution designed specifically for HD.
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I would like to get to the place where I understand how to approach a problem like this. What questions should be asked? What standards are there? So, for example, what differs between the HD and HD+ on boot? If they both will boot from SD, are they looking in different spots on the SD? expecting different things? Since CWM didn't even boot, this is way before the kernel takes hold (from my understanding at least).
polymath257 said:
I attempted to boot in store an HD from the CWM SD card of evergreen. It booted into the stock. Now, clearly there are a lot of variables here that could go wrong. Is the required layout of the SD card the same for the HD and the HD+?
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The HD has different booting files than the HD+. The HD+ version of the SD will not boot in it. There has to be a special version made for it and that has not been done.
Specifically, the bootloader (u-boot.bin) and other files are different. The SD booting structure is the same, just the HD+ files on the verygreen SD won't work on the HD. He explains that on his CM10 thread.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
leapinlar said:
The HD has different booting files than the HD+. The HD+ version of the SD will not boot in it. There has to be a special version made for it and that has not been done.
Specifically, the bootloader (u-boot.bin) and other files are different. The SD booting structure is the same, just the HD+ files on the verygreen SD won't work on the HD. He explains that on his CM10 thread.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
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So I assume u-boot needs to be configured for the specific board in the HD and the MLO provided. I'd also guess that the specific board is not one of the standard supported boards.

[Q] Full Android HD+ As Yet???

As an original Nook Color owner from its first day availability, I am now ready to make the leap to the HD+. My primary reason for this is the 8.9 inch screen which emulates "trade paperback" size which has always been my reading goal along with enhanced video.
I have put my NC through numerous iterations over the last two years plus and finally did a full conversion to Android 4.1 a few months ago bidding a permanent farewell to any remaining vestige of the BN software. As the final remaining issue for me was "reading in store" which I no longer need, it was not a difficult decision.
In perusing this forum, I appear to have run afoul of trying to determine if there is a currently viable track for complete conversion of the HD+ eMMc as I simply do not need or want the BN interface. I know full well there are rooted, sdcard, and "hybrid" variations well explained in this forum but simply cannot find or continue to overlook any mention/instruction for full internal conversion as an option.
Am I simply overlooking that info or are we not yet there? If that goal has not yet been obtained, what would be my closest non sdcard option?
I have nothing but accolades and praise for those providing us with the fruits of their efforts. My multiple and varied experiences with my NC provided a truly fascinating experinece and learning curve starting with basic rooting up through several dual boot variations and now in eMMc Jelly Bean and all of its remarkably functional glory! It is clearly continuing with the HD and the "+" and I wish to express my deepest thanks for those continuing efforts in advance.
Any reasoned advice, suggestions, and/or direction would be appreciated.
As yet there is no full replacement of the emmc. The boot loader lock that even checks system makes it very hard.
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Verygreenhas said he believes it is possible but not on his priority list, see his CM10 thread. We don't have many developers working it yet. And being CM working properly, kernels, etc are priorities now.
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I too came from the Nook Color and have enjoyed the versatility of that device. Unfortunately B&N has locked down this device to make it more difficult to modify it. Your only two choices now is to modify stock with my CWM zips or opt for running CM10/CM10.1 from SD. You can get my CWM zips from my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature.
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Get the HD+ and put cm10 via sdcard on it. If you use the right sdcsard (class 4? someone will correct me if I'm wrong) and dont look back. I came from the nook color 10.1 emmc myself. I know how soul crushing it was on there. Lag, reboots, lag, poor display, lag. Did I mention lag? I'd like an emmc too, but seriously you won't notice any difference. Its an amazing tablet with cm10 on it.
Sent from my Barnes & Noble Nook HD+ using Tapatalk HD
I have also had the Nook Color and the Nook Tablet.. the Nook HD/HD+ are awesome. I have always choose to ditch the stock B&N expereince. Currently booting CM10.1 from mircoSD on my NookHD, thanks to some awesome work by others, and its honestly great! maybe a few tiny little lags every now and then, but nothing close to a deal breaker. And its still early... so it can only get better from here. Going HD or HD+, you won't be dissapointed.
Actually this is strange that we dont have still bootloader lock hack. All tech things that i seen on xda forum are ulocked. And now some BN can lock it
I want help but i dont have knowledge for this stage. And with other words i need it too (run custom rom from emmc)..
datas0ft said:
Actually this is strange that we dont have still bootloader lock hack. All tech things that i seen on xda forum are ulocked. And now some BN can lock it
I want help but i dont have knowledge for this stage. And with other words i need it too (run custom rom from emmc)..
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Verygreen says he thinks it can eventually be done, but his priority is perfecting CM on SD. He says no real need to run it internally when running on SD works so well.
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Thanks and Update
leapinlar said:
Verygreen says he thinks it can eventually be done, but his priority is perfecting CM on SD. He says no real need to run it internally when running on SD works so well.
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Thanks to all for your comments, updates, and suggestions. I opted to take the "easy way out" this time around and d/l n2a's $19.99 version for the HD+ and installed it on a 32 GB card. Oddly enough, could not get it to run on a new Sandisk Class 10 but it ran on an older class 4 or 6 card that I had used for converted film storage with my NC. Any idea why that happened?
BTW, when formatting a card for the HD+ should we use FAT32 or NTSC?
It is great to have a full JB interface back!
Not at all enamored of the current BN interface which I hope now to leave alone and eventually replace when full eMMc access is achieved. If JB could be made "ready for prime time" on the NC, then I am sure that it is just a matter of time until one of you has a full blown "Eureka" moment and shows the way to a full and total conversion of the HD+.
Will keep you all up-to-date regarding my experiences with the N2A setup.
Rooted Galaxy Nexus Android 4.2.1
Nook Color Android 4.1.2
Nook HD+ N2A SD Card Android 4.1.2
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BTW, when formatting a card for the HD+ should we use FAT32 or NTSC?
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You must to look to this thread. There you find all what you need and step by step.
leapinlar said:
Verygreen says he thinks it can eventually be done, but his priority is perfecting CM on SD. He says no real need to run it internally when running on SD works so well.
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Actually i need run it internally because i have 12 Nook HD+ and clients who use these just may pull out SD (maybe steal SD too). All restrictions which one i made on ROm for user side is not working anymore.
Seems i need directly constact with Verygreen.
Thanks about sharing information.
datas0ft said:
You must to look to this thread. There you find all what you need and step by step.
Not sure what the above direction has to do with which format (FAT32/NTSC) is best for SDcard use in the HD+ for either simple storage or alternate OS.
Did I miss something or was I unclear?
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This quote at this thread is about SD card formating:
For first time install only (you will need 4G or bigger sdcard, smaller ones are not supported and not tested):
gunzip cwm image and write it to your sdcard (entire sdcard not just one partition of it), use either dd on Linux/MacOS or Win32 Image Writer for those impaired by Windows.
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And when you follow this guide step by step, you dont need worry about formating your SD to wrong format.
harryzee said:
Oddly enough, could not get it to run on a new Sandisk Class 10 but it ran on an older class 4 or 6 card that I had used for converted film storage with my NC. Any idea why that happened?
BTW, when formatting a card for the HD+ should we use FAT32 or NTSC?
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Not all cards are created equal. The recommended card for running a ROM is SanDisk class 4. Others may or may not work well.
And it does not matter what format you had on the card originally before you burned the image to the card. It gets overwritten.
But for using an SD with stock, the card should be formatted Fat32 or ExFat. NTSC does not work.
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Aha!
datas0ft said:
This quote at this thread is about SD card formating:
And when you follow this guide step by step, you dont need worry about formating your SD to wrong format.
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Aha! Now I understand!!
leapinlar said:
Not all cards are created equal. The recommended card for running a ROM is SanDisk class 4. Others may or may not work well.
And it does not matter what format you had on the card originally before you burned the image to the card. It gets overwritten.
But for using an SD with stock, the card should be formatted Fat32 or ExFat. NTSC does not work.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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Many thanks for that clear explanation.
BTW, the N2A card (so far) is working well.

[Q] Nook HD, CM 10.1 w/ CWM earlyaccessv4 - How to diagnose mysterious reboot(s)

Hi All,
I have a Nook HD, recently purchased and then updated to BN 2.0.6 firmware during the BN registration process. I used the sdcard-cwm-early5.img.gz as referenced in Verygreen's post here to create a bootable CWM SD. I then installed the CM 10.1 build posted in thread by Bokbokban here. Finally, I installed latest gapps from goo.im. All seems to be pretty good, excepting that sometimes, seemingly randomly, the device will reboot itself, at which time it bypasses the SD during boot and goes straight for the stock BN rom on the emmc.
Any ideas on how to proceed? I haven't seen a pattern in the reboots yet, so I am not sure what may or may not be causing them. While I'm not exactly a newb with all that is involved with rooting/flashing various android devices (I own 5 of them), I could use some guidance on how to troubleshoot or diagnose problems like this.
I am confused. You used an HD+ image from verygreen and an HD ROM from bokbokan. How did you make that work? They should not have worked.
But if you really only used HD files, the reboot problem is probably the brand and class of the SD you used. It needs to be SanDisk class 4. We have that problem a lot on the HD+. It is cause by a kernel panic when trying to write to SD.
The solution is to get a better SD or use bokbokan's new Hybrid SD setup that puts /data on internal memory so SD speed does not matter.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD
leapinlar said:
I am confused. You used an HD+ image from verygreen and an HD ROM from bokbokan. How did you make that work? They should not have worked.
But if you really only used HD files, the reboot problem is probably the brand and class of the SD you used. It needs to be SanDisk class 4. We have that problem a lot on the HD+. It is cause by a kernel panic when trying to write to SD.
The solution is to get a better SD or use bokbokan's new Hybrid SD setup that puts /data on internal memory so SD speed does not matter.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD
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Thanks for your prompt reply. To be clearer, I did not use the HD+ image, but I did use the CWM image Verygreen posted, 'sdcard-cwm-early5.img.gz', as that version supported using CWM to read .zip's from /emmc (in other words, those that were downloaded via BN stock browser).
At the risk of sounding like I am second-guessing you, I think it's worth noting that I had no trouble with many things related to writing to the SD card: writing the CWM image, booting into CWM from the SD, writing the CM10.1 image onto the card, booting from the 10.1 rom, etc... So if it is, as you say, the card having write issues and causing a kernel panic, I'm wondering how I can prove that. I will check the kernel logs when I get home.
I'm using a Sandisk 'ultra' class 10 16gb... I get that 'class 10' generally means 'crappy for small random write requests', but I've had good luck with this particular card on other platforms that are sensitive to consistency of write speeds (G2, Nook Color). However, I'll try a class-4 Sandisk per your suggestion.
Follow-up question: I can't seem to find a solid guide that shows how to install to emmc... is that a new frontier for this device? Is it just that nobody has bothered, or is there a problem with original bootloader supporting that?
redfriar said:
Follow-up question: I can't seem to find a solid guide that shows how to install to emmc... is that a new frontier for this device? Is it just that nobody has bothered, or is there a problem with original bootloader supporting that?
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The internal bootloader is locked down pretty good. Some day someone will be able to break it, but for now no one has.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
Btw, I have had really bad results with my San disk CL 10. You may find other cars will work better.
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[Q] Best way to update Adobe Air

I need to update Adobe Air in order to use an app. Since it is preloaded on the Nook HD+ it will not install the latest version )giving a message that this app already exists). I have searched for answers on the internet and sought help from B&N phone, online and in store. In a December 2012 posthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034878&page=2 on this forum someone suggested removing the app using Titanium backup and then reinstalling. I was unsure if it was appropriate to bump a thread that old, but I want to be sure I will not void my warranty or cause any future problems by doing this. I am definitely a noob so problem solving future difficulties would not be as easy for me as others on this site.
I have also considered using a sd card boot to see if I could update Adobe Air then. I put CM on 2 touchpads and an sd card boot on a Nook tablet, but I am confused by the many options for the HD+. There are a few sd card options, hybrid, etc. I assume the sd card options would leave my Nook HD+ unchanged when removing the card, but some of the comments make me unsure (changing partitions, writing to internal, etc).
Can someone please suggest the safest way to update Adobe Air that will in no way effect the stock Nook or my warranty.
Thank You
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I need to update Adobe Air in order to use an app. Since it is preloaded on the Nook HD+ it will not install the latest version )giving a message that this app already exists). I have searched for answers on the internet and sought help from B&N phone, online and in store. In a December 2012 posthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034878&page=2 on this forum someone suggested removing the app using Titanium backup and then reinstalling. I was unsure if it was appropriate to bump a thread that old, but I want to be sure I will not void my warranty or cause any future problems by doing this. I am definitely a noob so problem solving future difficulties would not be as easy for me as others on this site.
I have also considered using a sd card boot to see if I could update Adobe Air then. I put CM on 2 touchpads and an sd card boot on a Nook tablet, but I am confused by the many options for the HD+. There are a few sd card options, hybrid, etc. I assume the sd card options would leave my Nook HD+ unchanged when removing the card, but some of the comments make me unsure (changing partitions, writing to internal, etc).
Can someone please suggest the safest way to update Adobe Air that will in no way effect the stock Nook or my warranty.
Thank You
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You do not say what you are running. If you are running stock, you do not want to remove anything with TB. It will reset the device.
And yes, generally running from SD leaves your stock intact.
I don't know the best way to update adobe air. You probably can't if running stock.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
Thank you for your response. I assumed since the person in the original thread couldn't update Adobe Air that meant they were running stock also. I appreciate you stopping me from erasing something I shouldn't.
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You do not say what you are running. If you are running stock, you do not want to remove anything with TB. It will reset the device.
And yes, generally running from SD leaves your stock intact.
I don't know the best way to update adobe air. You probably can't if running stock.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Loading CM and others on to Nook.

Hello,
I have tried my best to follow the rules and dummy articles that are posted.
I downloaded the partition magic software
I downloaded the windisk32 Imager software
I have downloaded the 3 files from links for oviation and others to get CM 10 to work.
Or at least I think I did.
Once I put my sd card into my nook and try to do what the instructions say.
The Nook flash start up screen just keeps turning off and on, and on and off.
I followed and deleted everything off the sd card first, then partition it. Then I set it
to what the tutorial says I believe which was call it boot. Then choose primary fat32 I think.
Then I use windisk imager to load the boot on.
Then that is where i get in to trouble I think. Or maybe I am not even doing the previous parts right? But, I am doing it step by step and it is doing what I think it should be doing as far as the tutorial is concerned. I was using this one to show the tutorial on the PM and WD32.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YYXtGAt6GY
Anyway, I am trying to upgrade my nook OS which has only 2.2 on it. No further updates are coming as you all know I am sure.
So, can any one help me or explain to me what I am doing wrong.
I downloaded the three pieces I thought were right as far as the nook is concerned.
cm-11-20140210-SNAPSHOT-M3-acclaim
cm-11-20140221-NIGHTLY-acclaim
gapps-jb-20130813-signed
Those were right to put on the sd card right, Do I just drag and drop them over and then put the disk in the nook and turn it on. I did use the windisk imager to load the boot file bot the others were dragged and dropped...... I am confused on what I am doing wrong.
Please help.
I don't even need the latest and greatest. I just want one that will work with flash so I can watch my sports on my nook hd+ 2.2.2 color version 9 inch screen.
You can email me directly if you wish. If so PM me privately and I will reply or just email if you know where to find my email address.
Thanks, Karl James.
The Nook HD+ (BNTV600) is not the same as the Nook Tablet (BNTV250), using the ROM and tools intended for a different Nook can brick your Nook HD+.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42406126&postcount=7 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51043572&postcount=1 for info/pointers for flashing CM11 on the HD+.
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The Nook HD+ (BNTV600) is not the same as the Nook Tablet (BNTV250), using the ROM and tools intended for a different Nook can brick your Nook HD+.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42406126&postcount=7 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51043572&postcount=1 for info/pointers for flashing CM11 on the HD+.
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Note only that, the files for the HD+ are different than that for the HD.
If he has a Nook HD+, he needs to use "ovation" files. And, he is trying to apply multiple versions of CM-11 at the same time.
Files are downloaded
Ok Guys,
I downloaded the two links for the
cm-11-####-ovation.zip (CM11) (the CM ROM zip)
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=ovation
Google Apps (needed for Play Store)
pa_gapps-modular-micro-4.4.2-20140426a-signed.zip
These are the two correct files to download.
Then I extract them into a folder on my desktop. Called My Nook Files.
Just so I know where they are at?
Now I need to know if I did the right things with partition and win disk image programs.
I formatted it, then did the create partition, set to 500mb, primary instead of logical.
And set to active. Is that all I do?
Then I just drag and drop the two other folder files of the Ovation and apps over to the sd card folder right?
Then take the card and put in nook after it is power down and turn it on with card in it. Then Hold the N key while the power is coming up then it should show the CM software, right?
Am I understanding this incorrectly or correctly?
Thanks, Karl
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DeanGibson said:
Note only that, the files for the HD+ are different than that for the HD.
If he has a Nook HD+, he needs to use "ovation" files. And, he is trying to apply multiple versions of CM-11 at the same time.
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