I'm wondering if I'm the only person to be, well, disappointed with the Nexus 4. I have had Google-centric devices before, starting with the Nexus One and I enjoyed using them. I was looking forward to getting my N4 immensely but since it arrived it's just been nothing but ball-ache.
It never really feels as fast as its specs suggest it could be.
If I snap a picture (which is disappointing 99% of the time) I can't send it by clicking the share button and choosing Gmail - it just sits in my outbox, and has with every ROM I've used, including stock.
The device's battery is inconsistent.
It's slicker than an eel that's been soaked in KY, so unless it's in a case or bumper it slips and slides off surfaces and, as we all know, it isn't the most robust smartphone in the world.
I'm holding out hope that KLP will bring things together and get it all moving right, but so far I'm a misery guts...a misery guts who keeps eyeing up the HTC One.
Am I alone?
It is an upgrade for me because I had an htc one v. I honestly think all of the functions are usable (besides recording audio). I was very excited to know the nexus 4 came out, after using the nexus 7 for a couple of months. Although if you have owned a phone with features that worked more efficiently, then yes this device could totally be let down. The battery life could be better(even with custom kernels/roms) I figure i'm gonna sit with my nexus 4 through another generation of nexus before I upgrade.
Yes. And this thread is pointless.
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For me its the complete opposite. Ive had every nexus phone an the n4 is by far the best. My phone is blazin fast woth no lag whatsoever no matter what rom im on, camera takes great pics an the battery is pretty good. It is pretty slick cause its mainly glass but a case fixes that. Maybe u got a bad phone or something
Yes, it is just you. Can we close this thread?
Yes , just you.
If your picture is getting stuck in the outbox, that probably means your internet connection is too slow to send it quickly.
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I thought it might have been a bad one at first, but the wife's got one and she's had some (minor) issues too. There are aspects of the device that I love, but having had a Nexus 7 and gotten to really like Jelly Bean I was hoping for a lot more from the N4. There just seems to be a lack of veneer in certain areas, like jobs were just sort of finished rather than being polished.
The N4 is the best Nexus device in terms of hardware, sure, but I don't feel that Google has made as much of that hardware as it could have, though that could probably be attributed in some part to it being an enthusiasts device.
As for you, mgymnop and biggiephat (and anyone else who wants to be a plum) , it's a discussion forum for the Nexus 4. I was trying to initiate a sensibl discussion with other users to share my experiences and listen to others. If you don't like it, **** off. There's always dullards like you who have to mince around trying to be superior to other users. No one wants to hear your bull****. Take part or keep it shut.
@Chrono_Tata - I thought that at first but it's like it on Wi-Fi too. It's been a real head-scratcher!
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I thought it might have been a bad one at first, but the wife's got one and she's had some (minor) issues too. There are aspects of the device that I love, but having had a Nexus 7 and gotten to really like Jelly Bean I was hoping for a lot more from the N4. There just seems to be a lack of veneer in certain areas, like jobs were just sort of finished rather than being polished.
The N4 is the best Nexus device in terms of hardware, sure, but I don't feel that Google has made as much of that hardware as it could have, though that could probably be attributed in some part to it being an enthusiasts device.
As for you, mgymnop and biggiephat (and anyone else who wants to be a plum) , it's a discussion forum for the Nexus 4. I was trying to initiate a sensibl discussion with other users to share my experiences and listen to others. If you don't like it, **** off. There's always dullards like you who have to mince around trying to be superior to other users. No one wants to hear your bull****. Take part or keep it shut.
@Chrono_Tata - I thought that at first but it's like it on Wi-Fi too. It's been a real head-scratcher!
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Please just send me your n4 once youve bought htc one x n_n
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I love N4. The main thing is NEXUS. Pure google and lots of ROMs out there!
Tone-Fu said:
I'm wondering if I'm the only person to be, well, disappointed with the Nexus 4. I have had Google-centric devices before, starting with the Nexus One and I enjoyed using them. I was looking forward to getting my N4 immensely but since it arrived it's just been nothing but ball-ache.
It never really feels as fast as its specs suggest it could be.
For me it's quite the opposite. It's easily the fastest phone Ive used yet (that includes most 2012 flagships but nothing like the Xperia Z or HTC One) and I don't see any reason I'd want it to be faster. I don't see any task in the near future that the S4 Pro won't be able to handle, and project butter just makes the experience unbeatable IMO.
If I snap a picture (which is disappointing 99% of the time) ...
The camera is disappointing but I don't use it too much so really don't care.
I can't send it by clicking the share button and choosing Gmail - it just sits in my outbox, and has with every ROM I've used, including stock.
Can't comment here, I've never tried it and really cba to do so now.
The device's battery is inconsistent.
Mine's been fine and the battery has always gotten me through the day perfectly fine.
It's slicker than an eel that's been soaked in KY, so unless it's in a case or bumper it slips and slides off surfaces and, as we all know, it isn't the most robust smartphone in the world.
I've got a case but it does slip around a lot without a case. You'll have to come up with a solution or learn to live with it I'm afraid.
I'm holding out hope that KLP will bring things together and get it all moving right, but so far I'm a misery guts...a misery guts who keeps eyeing up the HTC One.
If the one's what you prefer then by all means get it. The N4 isn't for everyone, which is perfectly understandable.
Am I alone?
Almost certainly not
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Just my opinions on this. At the end of the day it's entirely down to personal preference, which nobody can really change. To the people who said that he is alone, you do realise that that's akin to saying 'green is the best colour and if you don't like it then you're an idiot' right?
Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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I have neither of those issues.
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Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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I have been with Android since the T-Mobile G1 by HTC and xperienced the whole evolution from Cupcake to Jellybebean and android probably will always be work in progress, it is an evoluton. It will be even better and more complete with every build. As with any other OS.
some of my korean friends wrote it off when they discovered it was LG and not Samsung.
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some of my korean friends wrote it off when they discovered it was LG and not Samsung.
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That is a stupid reason in this case, as it is a Google phone build by LG.
OP if you are disappointed, maybe head over here and then replace you Device...Thanks.
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What do you love most about owning the nexus one?
mine is simple... aside from it doing everything my iphone did...
I love the live wallpapers, lol.
free apps without jailbreaking or rooting... and I like how from the contacts... you can email, facebook, text, call a person with a single touch.
I love the live wallpapers myself..
I must admit it does seem like an all around nice phone.. However, I still figured I'd see what people said.
I really love the general handiness of the device, its just endlessly capable:
hotspot, flash, RDC ,browser, navigation, maps, apps, media, camera, sturdiness, all the google apps, the customization...i just love the damn phone!
The only limit i can identify is my carrier TMobile (of course i love the price and cant complain because you get what you pay for and the 3g is very, very fast in my opinion), im in san antonio yet i only have 3g about 1/2 the time and data goes away totally in about 2/3 of the buildings/stores which i think is pretty unreasonable especially in a big, highly populated city.
The only thing i am disappointed with on the phone is the general touchscreen interaction; the scrolling, dragging, etc should be smoother but thats a relatively minor complaint. As great as the phone is right now i will definitely order the Nexus 2 on day one; better processor/ROM/RAM/camera/HD recording/resolution are more than just competitive as of now but by the end of the year ill probably be jealous of other Androids.
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the screen. perfect size, like a mini tablet in your pocket for web browsing, and the amoled colors make it pleasing to the eyes compared to lcd screens.
or build quality and materials would be second answer.
i love it for beeing completely unmodified and vanilla android after owning a crippled HTC Android phone
Because its Googles baby, N1 owners get first dibs on anything new happening in Android.
The way it sweats sexy. Its aluminum body. The usable camera. B-E-A-utiful AMOLED screen.
Only dislike is the trackball. Mine refuses to scroll left but works fine any other direction.
The build.. I had a look at a Xperia that runs Android at work from a colleague, and i was stunned how it felt so lightweight and cheap built piece of plastic.
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i love it for beeing completely unmodified and vanilla android after owning a crippled HTC Android phone
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Gotta agree with you there. I just hope there will be more phones in the future with vanilla android. I'm just tired of the whole rooting and flashing ROMs bit after having 100+ ROMs on my last WM phone, so no I just keep my N1 stock and I like it.
With Froyo I see no reason to root anymore and that's a good thing imo.
It is a dandy phone with everything on it, sometimes i will have a problem that needs to be solved, and can be solved by using my phone.
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With Froyo I see no reason to root anymore and that's a good thing imo.
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My rom flashing has stopped since i got froyo, but i know it will start up again once cyanyogenmod 6 comes out.
AMOLED screen... I love it!
I'm a current iPhone 3G owner and I'm due for an upgrade. I was at the AT&T store last week buying my girlfriend an iPhone4(ironic, right?) and saw the Captivate. I picked up the phone and fell in love, I love the screen, love the interface, loved everything about it. My immediate reaction was, I need to have this phone, this is going to be my upgrade. I start reading around websites and forums and all I've been reading is negative things about the Captivate.
My question is, is the Captivate an upgrade over the 3G and is there really that many issues with it? I'm growing tired of the same ole, bland ole iPhone and love the customazation available with the Cap.
Thank you.
Of cause it is an upgrade to your 2 year old iPhone 3G. This is the world of tech.
And yes, there is a lot of issues too. Because there is no perfect thing in this world.
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I came from an iphone 3G, and it is definitely an upgrade from the iphone, yet a learning curve because the 2 OS' are completely different! But so worth the switch!!
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If youre techie prone the galaxy is for you.
From rooting, to lag fix, sideloading, tethering, etc... you'll love this phone
I know i do
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If youre techie prone the galaxy is for you.
From rooting, to lag fix, sideloading, tethering, etc... you'll love this phone
I know i do
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I don't think I'll have any problems with anything tech wise, reading around seeing all the issues is what really has detered me from this phone. I think I'm going to make the switch..
You won't regret it. There are fixes for most things, the only issue I have thats still nagging is the GPS problem.
Scalzone said:
My question is, is the Captivate an upgrade over the 3G and is there really that many issues with it? I'm growing tired of the same ole, bland ole iPhone and love the customazation available with the Cap.
Thank you.
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Well, yes, of course the Captivate is an upgrade over the iPhone 3G; the screen alone (nonetheless the rest of its specs) should make that obvious.
Lastly, the only problems I really know with the Captivate is some having GPS issues, and the phone experiencing lag. Otherwise, everything is pretty much an acquired taste due to the switch from iOS to Android. If the Captivate will be your first Android phone, then I can pretty much assure you that that part --switching OSes -- will be the hardest.
I came from a 3GS and felt like it was an upgrade in every possible way, except the Marketplace. It's not quite there yet, but catching up fast.
There are a lot of problems with the phone, but I will tell you this. You will probably have to go through a handset or two (maybe more in some cases) before you find one that works as you expect. Don't be shy about exchanging the handset till you strike gold and don't see anything outside of the GPS issue, which is an admitted software fix from Samsung.
Outside of that, you will be overwhelmed at first. Learning a new OS is always a bit daunting, but when it's an open source OS it's even more so. You have to get yourself into the mindset of how to do things, as opposed to if you can do them. Tons of customization and software choices. The phone really lets you flex your personalization muscles. If you don't like the browser, download a different one. If you don't like the music player, there are 10 more to take it's place.
Ok, so how come everytime we get a new device we complain about everything. Screen, battery, gps, and everything else! It's getting old. No device is going to be perfect! Come on we have a kick ass device! The Galaxy S2 is awesome. Tired of all the bashing and complaining going on in the forums. can't we just enjoy our awesome device and the awesome Roms and support the devs give us? Nope because we are spoiled!
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I love this phone. Its the best I have ever had and I have had a g1, sgs4g, g2, g2x, sensation, amaze, and a couple sprint androids. The roms a very good and the devs are as well. There does seem to be a lot of childish bickering here that needs to stop, but I think the phone is an ass kicking device.
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Only if you're lucky enough to have non-problem screen then the rest is perfect.
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True but the screen problem is unforgivable. If I can get it fixed then I can overlook all the other problems this phone has.
if the iphone 4s had a bigger screen lets say 4" atleast, it would be the perfect device lol
if the galaxy s 2 had a better screen with no lines or blobs and we got updates fast, like lets say ICS!! it would be the perfect device..
if googled made it a requirement to update your device to the new OS, things would be soo different..
if it only it was like the iphone lol
After all the bugs and issues on my G2x, the SII is a pleasure to own.
People are always going to complain. The best thing we can do is not respond to their threads/posts.
I never had an issue with my g2x i was lucky and the blobs on here arent that noticable to me so all in all im a happy camper
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darkside79 said:
Ok, so how come everytime we get a new device we complain about everything. Screen, battery, gps, and everything else! It's getting old. No device is going to be perfect! Come on we have a kick ass device! The Galaxy S2 is awesome. Tired of all the bashing and complaining going on in the forums. can't we just enjoy our awesome device and the awesome Roms and support the devs give us? Nope because we are spoiled!
Killing Zombies With My Samsung Galaxy S2
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+1 dude I love this device the screen problem is no biggie I don't Read in the dark with the lowest setting possible and even still dont realky see it. But like op said every device isnt perfect and i had just about every device. This gs2 is by far the sweetest phone i owned to date i still think my next device will prolly be a nexus device or the s3 if its sick enough. But yea man i love my phone its super fast and reliable. It was also the first device where i thought the stock rom was half decent. I am definitely enjoying this device and will for a good while with or without ics. Even tho that would be a sweet addition to our roms
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I never had an issue with my g2x i was lucky and the blobs on here arent that noticable to me so all in all im a happy camper
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The g2x was one of my favorite devices and now the wife has it and enjoys.
Would any of us have noticed the screen issue if we hadn't read about it on xda?
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Had every mytouch, g2x and I honestly think this is the best fone....I loved my mytouch 4g though not going to lie lol
Screen prob. Tgat every1 talks about isnt tgat serious I have the brightness at 25% and I don't notice a single prob....now on 0% then I see it lol but that's wayyy to dark to enjoy this beautiful screen....ppl r always going to find something to nit pick and complain about I just ignore it.
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With out a doubt the Samsung Galaxy S II is the #1 phone in the world for 2011-current. Some other phones have other features or other small features that make them better in some aspects, such as the Galaxy Nexus screen. Other wise the SGSII is uncontested in every aspect and in sales.
CONS: Now, not by choice I own the T-Mobile SGSII which is another story all together. Yes, T-Mobile and Samsung changed a few features on this device to make it unique to T-Mobile. Whether good or bad it is very clear that the SGSII for TMO has a decrease in screen resolution, CPU and GPU Graphics performance. Other people have complained about lines and blobs on there screen, which I am fortunately enough not to experience on my device. But the worse part of the TMO version is the design......because Apple had to be a B*%^& and sue Samsung over this device we lost the three main button/keys from the original UK version. I like real buttons and would have loved to have a real home button and a back and menu button, ps who actually uses the search button?...worthless! The only other thing I would change would have been to have waited for the white one to come out before buying.
PROS: Personally I don't see much of a decrease in the screen resolution at all, I LOVE IT, and love the size to! The speed of the phone when at its best is amazing (have yet to root my phone and over clock it so I expect to to be even better soon when I do). Until we get ICS I am very content with the Go Launcher ICS theme which is easy to customize.
Over all even with my small simple complaints this is by far the best phone I have even own and still think no other phone on the market competes.
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if the iphone 4s had a bigger screen lets say 4" atleast, it would be the perfect device lol
if the galaxy s 2 had a better screen with no lines or blobs and we got updates fast, like lets say ICS!! it would be the perfect device..
if googled made it a requirement to update your device to the new OS, things would be soo different..
if it only it was like the iphone lol
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I totally disagree..
The iphone would still have a horribly bland and boring os and would still have a horrid build quality (shattering from a 1 foot drop)
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Would any of us have noticed the screen issue if we hadn't read about it on xda?
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Yes, I first noticed it on an HD video I was watching and I thought it was something wrong with the video itself. In fact, I would not even know about xda if it weren't for the screen issue (so it's the other way around).
knickfan5745 said:
After all the bugs and issues on my G2x, the SII is a pleasure to own.
People are always going to complain. The best thing we can do is not respond to their threads/posts.
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Lol.
I still haven't seen the difference myself, better yet I would rather not see it because I would just be upset about it, right? But its not something that makes me happy when I hear that Samsung and TMO made it slower and less screen quality.
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I still haven't seen the difference myself, better yet I would rather not see it because I would just be upset about it, right? But its not something that makes me happy when I hear that Samsung and TMO made it slower and less screen quality.
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Skyrocket has the same issue as well
I thought that the skyrocket and our phone were the exact same device. Wasn't it just discovered that ours supports LTE as well? Whats the differences?
The difference is the processor (Qualcomm vs. Exynos), and the screen itself (4.5" vs. 4.3"). Sadly, our 4.5" screen is the one with the blobs/lines.
This really isn't the carrier's fault, but if they are refusing you a refund/exchange then it is.
huh, so are the blobs/lines caused by something or over time? Or do some devices just have them?
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I thought that the skyrocket and our phone were the exact same device. Wasn't it just discovered that ours supports LTE as well? Whats the differences?
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I think it the same actually, hence why I'm in this forum
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huh, so are the blobs/lines caused by something or over time? Or do some devices just have them?
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Some devices just have them. Others have speculated that all have them to an extent but some are better than others.
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I think it the same actually, hence why I'm in this forum
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Yep, Skyrocket is the same as this phone. (I have Skyrocket)
hi all,
this is my first full post here on xda... i have been a member for a few years now and thought i should write something the community may agree/dispute/love/hate
and so...
here it is...
i have titled this my confession as basically it is a confession... its something i have put off for quite some time now...
i am a major windows mobile fan... from way back when with my o2 xda to my hd2... i love it and everything about it... its a faithful, hardworking, do it all mobile os... i had touchscreen phones and pda's long before the touchscreen hype came in... back when my friends still had the nokia hype, with changable cases and envious battery life... anything they could do, i could do better... just for the 6 or so hours my battery gave me... then devices evolved (slowly at first) o2 xda ii then some more...mda vario... htc elf (touch) then a blackberry (never again!!!!) had that for a very short time... then got myself a tytn ii... windows mobile with real power... filled it with spb software... had android running from sd... was my first real do it all phone...
then time and age became an issue... my hardware was restricting me... software can only go so far... so the time came for an upgrade... in steps the amazing 4.3" multi touch, capacative, 1ghz powerhouse that is the hd2... running the latest and greatest version of windows mobile with a sexy sense ui draped over the top...
soon as it was released here in england i was at my local phone shop and signing up to an 18 month contract...
soon after this, a nice hspl came along which meant 1 thing to me, and 1 thing only... custom rom goodness... oh, i went through every rom imaginable... (i believe the term for this is ord or obsessive rom-flashing disorder)
i finally settled on energy roms... loved the speed, looks and the sheer number of different flavours nrgz28 offered...
then shock horror... i dropped my hd2 and smashed the digitizer... a job i would usually do myself but after the cost of the screen (£100) and what a local phone shop quoted me (£120) i decided to let them deal with the annoying job...
BIG MISTAKE!!!! basically ruined the ribbon for my volume keys and lost the glass that makes the proximity and light sensors work... they had it for about 2months... and so after a big row with them i had half my money refunded and my fone returned with a new screen but still a little sick... broken hd2 of ebay was the answer as during this time the first windows phone software was ready and waiting for my approval... so phone fixed, wp7 flashed the end....
or not... after a few minutes with wp7 i noticed simple features were missing... like copy/paste... i was unable to download any media onto my device... a big disappointment... what ever happened to microsoft??? took a beautiful thing and just destroyed it... why try and be like the iphone when waht u had was so much better...
tutt tutt...
now... down to the confession... after this utter shock from windows i decided to try android out... had it running from sd for quite some time, but thought its time to try nand and reap the benefits... so away i go... first a galaxy s rom... pretty impressive, but still lacking that spark... then a few newer builds and versions surfaced... had the desire hd rom... was nice... then i got a whiff of gingerbread goodness... started really liking the leaps and bounds the still young os was offering... then on... 2.3... 2.3.3... 2.3.5... ect... each time getting a little better... the finally ics...
ics hit the hd2 like an ice cream hitting a sensative tooth... bang! on it went and wow... im really impressed... feels like this is what wp7 should have been...
it stank of winmo customizability... ate up everything i did to it and seemed like this is how its meant to be...
android on my hd2 felt so right but also so wrong... whats going on?? im singing the praises of a winmo competitor... whats happened to me?? am i sick?? have i hit my head?? i really cant place my finger on it...
so my confession is this secret love affair i have had with android... cheating on winmo for so long... so i have decided to come clean... cant keep this cherade up any longer...
sorry winmo, i do, and always will love u... we had many brilliant times together... ones i will always remember... its not you, its me... i have met someone else and she makes me happy now... so im going to admit this now and confirm its over between us... im so so so truly very sorry...
i hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me and we can still be friends... u have influenced me and made me who i am today and 4 that i thank you
so... heres the start of not having to hide my new love... 1 i hope will last forever...
....So i bet your thinking "why did i just sit and read this crap??" its coz maybe secretly u have the same love affair? or u were actually hoping to find out some real murderers confession? or your just bored? whatever the reason, u now know where my heart lies...
maybe its time for u all to think where exactly ur heart lies...
food for thought...
thanks for reading
luke (android lover)
I've only been an Android guy. Today I went and played with some WinMo 8 devices and was impressed by the general UI and the screen clarity. That was about it though... the OS was hard to navigate and I got lost in it a few times... didn't like the Carl Zeiss on the Lumia 900 either...
So, I will be getting either the next Nexus or the Galaxy Nexus, depending on if the new one is out... And as you said ICS is a beautiful thing!!!
I want to rip the camera sensor off of the Pureview 808 (runs Belle) and slap it on Android.
GMIUInfuse
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I've only been an Android guy. Today I went and played with some WinMo 8 devices and was impressed by the general UI and the screen clarity. That was about it though... the OS was hard to navigate and I got lost in it a few times... didn't like the Carl Zeiss on the Lumia 900 either...
So, I will be getting either the next Nexus or the Galaxy Nexus, depending on if the new one is out... And as you said ICS is a beautiful thing!!!
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There's no winmo 8 or even windows phone 8 yet.
As a whole, ICS feels like the same stuttery unintuitive mess I got from all other android builds, but I guess if winmo was your bag you grow accustomed to sacrificing performance and usability for a more feature enriched ecosystem.
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As a whole, ICS feels like the same stuttery unintuitive mess I got from all other android builds, but I guess if winmo was your bag you grow accustomed to sacrificing performance and usability for a more feature enriched ecosystem.
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well if all android builds are stuttery unintuitive mess's then u maybe need to try another device... my hd2 runs android like a dream... if i didnt know better, it could be the native os...
im unaware of what performance and usability im sacrificing... as my phone performs just as quick if not quicker than winmo ever did... even with energyroms... boot time is quicker... battery life is better... its a more finger friendly os than winmo...
i see ur a windows fan still... each to their own... as a whole, iv never rated nokia as a manufacturer of high end devices, but their deal with microsoft was the best thing they could have ever done... meego, symbian and the other crap they used to ship their devices with was a joke...
imheroldman said:
I've only been an Android guy. Today I went and played with some WinMo 8 devices and was impressed by the general UI and the screen clarity. That was about it though... the OS was hard to navigate and I got lost in it a few times... didn't like the Carl Zeiss on the Lumia 900 either...
So, I will be getting either the next Nexus or the Galaxy Nexus, depending on if the new one is out... And as you said ICS is a beautiful thing!!!
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the ui (metro) can be downloaded from google play for free if u like the ui... screen clarity is down to the device really... wp7 is quick but really lacks any kind of spark for me... and coming from winmo, i really wanted to love wp7 but i just dont...
as for an upgrade id always suggest htc... kies for the samsung devices is the worst piece of software ever written... and theres just something about sony ericsson devices that feels cheap to me... if memory serves (which it probabily dont) the first nexus was made by htc... a few of them were made by samsung... dont hold me to that
You can't download the UI, you can download a cheap, laggy imitation that almost drove me from wp7 initially because I thought that was all it was. You don't sacrifice speed or stability from winmo to android because they're both stuttery and unstable. Winmo felt like a beta OS, android continued on that beta. Wp7 feels like something more solid and complete in comparison.
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You can't download the UI, you can download a cheap, laggy imitation that almost drove me from wp7 initially because I thought that was all it was.
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launcher 7's not laggy, lol. It is somewhat limited atm, but live tiles are coming very soon.
In comparison to the real deal, it's laggy. Android simply isn't built to be smooth. Honestly, winmo is better built, had they improved the UI, worked on the hardware, and built a viable marketplace, they'd have Android's spot. Unfortunately, Bill Gates wanted a mobile version of windows... He was the only one.
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In comparison to the real deal, it's laggy.
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Like this water flowing over a leaf is laggier than that water flowing over a leaf, I'm sure.
No, android stutters due to a number of factors. Windows Phone takes measures to prevent such things. Launcher 7 is disappointing, it almost drove me from windows phone before I'd tried it because I installed it and thought, "So this is all WP7 is? Boring." Then I got a cheap HD7, even that tired old device blew away anything else on the market in terms of fluidity and speed.
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No, android stutters due to a number of factors.
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I've noticed you keep trying to change your focus, from "Launcher 7" to "Android". Composition fallacy?
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Launcher 7 is disappointing, it almost drove me from windows phone before I'd tried it because I installed it and thought, "So this is all WP7 is? Boring."
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WP is indeed more than what Launcher 7 is.. but not by much, and the gap gets smaller everyday.
Ok, I'll make a small confession too then, shall I?
To be honest WP7 looks like a very well designed and consistent OS to me, but as any other it has its own bugs. Sure it's quite stable, especially compared to Gingerbread, but it's no Swiss watch by any mean. For example, people criticise Android because of force closes, but honestly WP7 isn't very different: at times you tap on some app and you get kicked back to your home screen, and you can't fix it without rebooting the phone or even reinstalling the app from scratch, eventally losing all of your settings. Sure you don't get the "force close" message, but this actually IS a force close. Talking about lag, I can't really say that WP7 is as consistent as some tend to describe it. Sure I'm insanely fast at typing, but at times the input is delayed, and in many situations the ICS keyboard on my SGS2 was generally faster and more fluid.
This said, I like the idea of WP7 a LOT. I love the design of every single thing, everything has been made with very good taste and always keeping the focus on user experience. I've been using WP7 for about 5 months now, and honestly I wouldn't go back. I think that WP7 is really close to perfect as a PHONE OS (for my perosnal taste at least), because let's face it: first of all a phone should be something you use for keeping in touch, doing some light browsing/tweeting and enjoying some media content on the go. Some people say that Android has more features and is generally better for so called "power users". I used to think that too, but honestly, growing up a little and actually starting to have a real life and some sort of job I came to think that phones in general are not really meant for power users. Now I know I'm on XDA, right? Don't kill me please, just let me explain. A phone has some really annoying features: small battery, small screen (yes, they generally are small, and good luck carrying a Note without cargo pants, or either operate it with one hand), and last but not least, people can always call/text/mail you when your doing your ****s. For a REAL power user this should be annoying, right? For me the best solution would be carrying an Android tablet and a WP7 device, so you can have a good and reliable communication device, fast and easy to use, AND a tablet for doing the real business as a real laptop replacement, or even just for tinkering, trying ROMs, gaming and all that jazz. A tablet has a huge battery, a very enjoyable screen and when you're using it people can still reach you on your phone without bothering you too much.
This summer I'll be definitely getting a good 10" slate with ICS on board, but I guess I won't be using it anymore as a phone OS. WP7 is my ideal phone OS: it's reliable, good looking and easy to use, and it helps me keeping focused on what really matters in my life: work, sports, friends and girls. An Android PHONE is probably too much for me, I'm too easily distracted. Now this is my very personal story, and my very personal preferences. Everyone should be enjoying his phone (and his life of course), hating is pointless. Peace out
i bet my "tired old hd2" will out perform your young, perky NOKIA... and i reckon it wont just be the hardware that makes the difference... u must have had some really bad versions of android because iv not had 1 laggy, slow or memory hungry version... and i have NEVER owned an android phone...
android supports 3d which no other platform has... supports quad core... wp7 cant yet support dual core... windows has been around since the dinosaurs and STILL lacks a decent marketplace...
android over wp7 any day...
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Ok, I'll make a small confession too then, shall I?
To be honest WP7 looks like a very well designed and consistent OS to me, but as any other it has its own bugs. Sure it's quite stable, especially compared to Gingerbread, but it's no Swiss watch by any mean. For example, people criticise Android because of force closes, but honestly WP7 isn't very different: at times you tap on some app and you get kicked back to your home screen, and you can't fix it without rebooting the phone or even reinstalling the app from scratch, eventally losing all of your settings. Sure you don't get the "force close" message, but this actually IS a force close. Talking about lag, I can't really say that WP7 is as consistent as some tend to describe it. Sure I'm insanely fast at typing, but at times the input is delayed, and in many situations the ICS keyboard on my SGS2 was generally faster and more fluid.
This said, I like the idea of WP7 a LOT. I love the design of every single thing, everything has been made with very good taste and always keeping the focus on user experience. I've been using WP7 for about 5 months now, and honestly I wouldn't go back. I think that WP7 is really close to perfect as a PHONE OS (for my perosnal taste at least), because let's face it: first of all a phone should be something you use for keeping in touch, doing some light browsing/tweeting and enjoying some media content on the go. Some people say that Android has more features and is generally better for so called "power users". I used to think that too, but honestly, growing up a little and actually starting to have a real life and some sort of job I came to think that phones in general are not really meant for power users. Now I know I'm on XDA, right? Don't kill me please, just let me explain. A phone has some really annoying features: small battery, small screen (yes, they generally are small, and good luck carrying a Note without cargo pants, or either operate it with one hand), and last but not least, people can always call/text/mail you when your doing your ****s. For a REAL power user this should be annoying, right? For me the best solution would be carrying an Android tablet and a WP7 device, so you can have a good and reliable communication device, fast and easy to use, AND a tablet for doing the real business as a real laptop replacement, or even just for tinkering, trying ROMs, gaming and all that jazz. A tablet has a huge battery, a very enjoyable screen and when you're using it people can still reach you on your phone without bothering you too much.
This summer I'll be definitely getting a good 10" slate with ICS on board, but I guess I won't be using it anymore as a phone OS. WP7 is my ideal phone OS: it's reliable, good looking and easy to use, and it helps me keeping focused on what really matters in my life: work, sports, friends and girls. An Android PHONE is probably too much for me, I'm too easily distracted. Now this is my very personal story, and my very personal preferences. Everyone should be enjoying his phone (and his life of course), hating is pointless. Peace out
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well said... and yes, its all down to preference... theres many (stupid) people that believe the i phony or crapberry is the way forward... not at all... i believe its android... i rarely have force closes... beyond that i have no problems at all with android on my WINDOWS MOBILE device...
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well said... and yes, its all down to preference... theres many (stupid) people that believe the i phony or crapberry is the way forward... not at all... i believe its android... i rarely have force closes... beyond that i have no problems at all with android on my WINDOWS MOBILE device...
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Android actually is a really good all around platform. I guess it's the best pick for many, if not most people these days: you can get it on any sort of device at any price. Also, not everybody can afford both a phone and a tablet, and Android is definitely the best all arounder. Also, the fact that it tends to look familiar to previous Symbian, iOS, BBOS and even WM users makes it appeal to many. Anyway I always hope that every single platform out there manages to survive and succeed at some extent, without some tough competitors Android would become stale in a few years like Symbian and BBOS. Actually the fact that it doesn't belong to a single OEM is a big boost for the platform as a whole already. Future still looks very bright for the green robot IMHO.
I didn't recognize android lag until I used something more stable either. Now it's painfully apparent. Jumping from winmo to android would have to feel like an improvement because winmo was just generally bad. I mean, in it's time it was ok at best. It had it's MMOs and stuff but never got past the point where you felt you needed a stylus in some places. It was always a PPC OS and never a smartphone OS. Android is a continuation on this, and while it's remedied most of the issues, lag and stability are not one of them. Perhaps I push my android phones harder with games like Dungeon Defenders and such, but I had to reset my gs2 daily for the week I had it. My Nokia Lumia 800 has been reset seven times total since last October. It's just more stable and more social.
Vnvman, what apps do you have such issues with? The only app that's caused me to have to reset is board express which is a poorly done app. At least it's not the built in apps though like with android.
Again, maybe I push my phone more. However, my measly 1.4 GHz processor runs circles around the gs2 I had long enough to ditch it. That would be the same GS2 that is said to be the first android phone that utilized a partially GPU accelerated UI.
The last app I had issues with was Carbon, just a week ago. It kinda surprised me because it always worked pretty good. I had to reinstall it in order to make it work again. Oh, and yesterday my gf had some issues on her 710, she had some stupid game like Shoot Bubble unable to launch, reinstalling it did the trick.
Honestly these things don't really bother me (it doesn't happen often), what actually made me wanna throw my phone off the window the other day was 3g connectivity, which wasn't working no matter what. After 24 hours it started working again, apparently without a reason. Funny thing is that my gf was having this issue at the same time, but none of my friends with the same carrier had it. Really weird.
Hmm, perhaps it pertained to your account with the phone company? A glitch in the system of sorts. I don't use carbon, not certain what it is, and stick mostly on the beaten path for games. Perhaps that's why I don't have that issue. The stock stuff covers most of what I need in a phone.
Carbon is a Twitter client, it's pretty good, you should try it if you haven't already. It's well designed and melts beautifully in the OS. I'm not a great fan of the integrated client we have, it's definitely usable but a little limited, and the official twitter app hurts my eye (and my battery) with all that stupid white...
Hey guys, just looking for you opinion on what I should expect when switching from Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy Note (N700) in terms of performance.
I mostly use the browser so I am most concerned with the browser performance. I have played a bit with one and could clearly see differences in performance compared to the buttery-smooth Galaxy Nexus. I think I could live with these minor shortcomings though, when I've got that HUGE screen. I also think I'd be better off with a bigger screen when I'm typing, because I type a lot, either in the browser or IM'ing with people. This is the main reason I want the Note.
Basically I want to know what you guys miss from your old phone, before the Note.
I've been toying with the idea of getting a Nexus just for the ability to switch between Tmobile and Att. What's stopping me is that I tried a S3 for a month but I kept coming back to the Note. The BIG SCREEN is really nice.
So far I have not found a JB rom for the Note that I like. They all seem so laggy compared to a CM9 rom with Apex and some minor UI tweeaks. Even stock TW roms that people swear a butter smooth seem laggy to me, ok not going between desktop screens but it is slow. If I were in your shoes, I would buy a used Note and give it a go but not be so quick to sell the Nexus.
The really big difference I can think of, switching from Gnex to Gnote is the very fast update that Google makes on the Gnex itself... When Google say that Gnex is their brand of phone to get the latest JB updates.. they really mean it to a tee. You get the best of both worlds that Google can deliver to your phone no question about that.
The only thing that's holding me from selling my Gnote and switching back to Gnex was and is still the fact on the WOW Factor that our phone makes to a lot of people. Whenever I stroll down Portsmouth to bars or drinking with my buddies.. it never fails to amaze me a stranger would right off comment and say.. " hey you got a nice phone there bud!".. I just smirked and smiled back at them.
I feel wait for note 2 bf4 taking any decision
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The only thing that's holding me from selling my Gnote and switching back to Gnex was and is still the fact on the WOW Factor that our phone makes to a lot of people. Whenever I stroll down Portsmouth to bars or drinking with my buddies.. it never fails to amaze me a stranger would right off comment and say.. " hey you got a nice phone there bud!".. I just smirked and smiled back at them.
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And when there's noone around to WOW, I just pull it out of my jeans and WOW myself. Never fails.
Man, that screen............
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And when there's noone around to WOW, I just pull it out of my jeans and WOW myself. Never fails.
Man, that screen............
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lol.... ,
I can understand if a chick comes up to you and says.. hey.. you got a nice bulge on your pants, you bring out the phone and the chick says... Oh. I thought it's something else!
what a bummer!
anyway goin back, yeah the Note still a spectacle to have with.. I mean, it got a nice big screen, faster GPS and I can truly say, I had scribbled my signature once on an online cheque copy and sent it via email... how cool is that..,
Yeah, I'm definitely convinced now that I want it. And I'm ready to say (temporarily) good bye to Jelly Bean We are pretty sure that the Note 1 will be updated to Jelly Bean, right?
Given the scenario...yeah... But my constant rule is.. Never expect anything...if JB comes before this year ends then great! If doesn't, then that's good. At least there's something we can look forward to for early next year perhaps.
"Hope for the best, expect for the worst"
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Yeah, I'm definitely convinced now that I want it. And I'm ready to say (temporarily) good bye to Jelly Bean We are pretty sure that the Note 1 will be updated to Jelly Bean, right?
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Honestly, even if Jelly Bean does not trickle down to Note 1, I'm not bothered. Currently on Rocket ROM, previously used JellyCore v2 and I don't see any features that can sway me over. Even the "huge" upgrade from Gingerbread to ICS was a minor boost to me - only because of the feature to use voice-typing keyboard. I don't really see per-app notification settings or widgets that arrange automatically or Google Now or anything else particularly necessary. OK, "but what about project butter?!" some will say. I will say that on my 4.0.4 Note I don't feel sluggishness to make me want any speed improvements. And no, it's not a Note with the default apps that come with it - it's crammed with apps and I am a very heavy user.
Only gap-less audio playback and offline dictation might sway me over but definitely not a necessity.
I plan to use it with the stock ROM so Project Butter would probably make a lot of difference.