Hi,
Is it usefull to add a Foil on the Foil from Sony? Or is it Possible when it is too much Damaged, Replace/Let it Replace ? Or is it to expensive?
What is the best way, to handle it for future Scratches
It's best to apply the 2nd screen protector that Sony gives you in the box. The one that comes pre-installed is the anti-shatter film, it's not that scratch resistant and it's not replaceable. Protect it and the screen with another screen protector - and then replace it when needed. It won't affect your screen's visibility or responsiveness and you'll be protected from both scratches and shattering.
Can you advise a good screen protector? None in the box.
Please check out the accessories section. Plenty suggestions there.
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efgee said:
Can you advise a good screen protector? None in the box.
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I've always used Brando. Can't say anything about XZ protectors though as I'm using those provided by Sony - and they're great so far, both the front and the back.
Spigen and atFolix create very good protectors, atFolix gave me 6 (3 front and back) at a lower price however! Shop around on Amazon, or invest in the Glas.t
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The"shatterproof" film is useless. It only prevents the glass from splintering into various pieces if it happens to break. It won't strengthen the glass or prevent breakage. I've since removed the film on my phone and the screen's colours have improved significantly, as well as the touch response.
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Hi,
i just asked Sony how much would a "Repair" cost.
They said about 25 € but for the exact Price i must asks their Repair Firms
The Response ist
Firm1: Not They only Replair Hardware, a Scrath on the Foil is no Hardware error
Firm2: Sony Experia Z is so new, they dont know how its done, so i have to send it to them, they will have a look, and then tell me how much it will cost....
Since its a Work Handy, Vodavon Replaces Business Handys for 35 €.
tylore said:
Hi,
i just asked Sony how much would a "Repair" cost.
They said about 25 € but for the exact Price i must asks their Repair Firms
The Response ist
Firm1: Not They only Replair Hardware, a Scrath on the Foil is no Hardware error
Firm2: Sony Experia Z is so new, they dont know how its done, so i have to send it to them, they will have a look, and then tell me how much it will cost....
Since its a Work Handy, Vodavon Replaces Business Handys for 35 €.
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Sepulture said:
The"shatterproof" film is useless. It only prevents the glass from splintering into various pieces if it happens to break. It won't strengthen the glass or prevent breakage. I've since removed the film on my phone and the screen's colours have improved significantly, as well as the touch response.
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I don't know about useless. Any small item that abraides or scratches the glass (like a piece of sand on your table) weakens it and makes it easier to break later. The screen protector has more "give", so the it won't scratch - and if it does, then you just replace it. If the glass scratches then, well, you're screwed.
It's interesting that everyone is noticing the "built in" screen protector as if it's something new, though. It's very common among Japanese manufacturers (as is waterproofing, btw.), and my older Sharp phones had it as well.
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I don't know about useless. Any small item that abraides or scratches the glass (like a piece of sand on your table) weakens it and makes it easier to break later. The screen protector has more "give", so the it won't scratch - and if it does, then you just replace it. If the glass scratches then, well, you're screwed.
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It's useless in the sense that it does not help to strengthen the display glass of the phone at all, it only prevents the glass from shattering all over if it does indeed break. Its marketed term "anti-shatter" or "shatterproof" Is misleading.
Of course, I wouldn't recommend removing the film if you don't intend to apply a screen protector. Not unless you're not bothered about scratches. The "anti-shatter" film isn't intended to be a screen protector. So the best course of action would be to remove the film and apply a screen protector of your choice.
Respect that it's your opinion, but certainly not a "best course of action".
The anti-shatter film placed on the Xperia Z is applicated using a heat treament. As the film cools it contracts and provides an additional "stiffness" against the "brittleness" of the glass, all while remaining slightly soft itself. As such, the kinetic energy from any sharp impacts is slightly dispersed, increasing the chance - slim as it is - that the screen won't shatter.
If anything, "it would be advisable" to leave the film on and place a screen protector over it.
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So I am planning on buying this magnificent phone but did some thinking while i was showering. Got all these text messages and tempted to text back in the shower. Since the Xperia Z is nearly made out of glass materials; according to Sony viet, I've been wondering is the same thing going to happen to the Xperia Z like the Nexus 4?
For those who already owns the Xperia Z:
It would be a huge problem for those who will have to do imports from another country. How durable are these glass? It can survive heights but how about sudden temperature change?
and one more question, there's no point applying screen protectors if you plan on getting the phone wet right?
As far as I know the Xperia Z's glass should be a bit more durable than the Nexus 4's, but until it hits the market in more countries we won't really know. I'd be surprised if the glass would crack because of temperature changes though.
Applying an extra screenprotector on top of the shatter-proof sheet shouldn't be a problem. It might loosen faster if it gets wet but I don't think you'll notice much difference.
The only difference between them is that Nexus uses Gorilla Glass, and Sony uses tempered glass. As great as Gorilla Glass is, it's hardened properties don't make it temperature resistant. The process of glass tempering, in theory, makes it resistant to sudden temperature changes - they use the same technology to make glass for ovens etc. So I think it shouldn't happen with Xperia, but we'll never know unless somebody takes time and money to make a test.
Screen protectors shouldn't be bothered by water. If they're static, then they'll stay on. Those that use glue might start to peel off after a while.
Ambroos said:
As far as I know the Xperia Z's glass should be a bit more durable than the Nexus 4's, but until it hits the market in more countries we won't really know. I'd be surprised if the glass would crack because of temperature changes though.
Applying an extra screenprotector on top of the shatter-proof sheet shouldn't be a problem. It might loosen faster if it gets wet but I don't think you'll notice much difference.
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Just wondering, have you tried taking it to the shower with you? lol
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The only difference between them is that Nexus uses Gorilla Glass, and Sony uses tempered glass. As great as Gorilla Glass is, it's hardened properties don't make it temperature resistant. The process of glass tempering, in theory, makes it resistant to sudden temperature changes - they use the same technology to make glass for ovens etc. So I think it shouldn't happen with Xperia, but we'll never know unless somebody takes time and money to make a test.
Screen protectors shouldn't be bothered by water. If they're static, then they'll stay on. Those that use glue might start to peel off after a while.
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well according to that link, the back glass of the Z is made out of Gorilla glass, and the front is made out of Dragontrail.
I forgot where i read it from, some Sony employee stated that the front and the back uses the same glass. >_____>
Accordingly the glass front of the Xperia Z Dragontrail glasses of Japanese with tremendous strength capacity of about 60kg or sharp objects directly on the screen. On the back of a click-toughened Gorilla Glass scratch-resistant and finally the other components of the body using Polycarbonate material and fiberglass (glass fiber polymer) normal 300 times more durable plastic.
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Just wondering, have you tried taking it to the shower with you? lol
well according to that link, the back glass of the Z is made out of Gorilla glass, and the front is made out of Dragontrail.
I forgot where i read it from, some Sony employee stated that the front and the back uses the same glass. >_____>
Accordingly the glass front of the Xperia Z Dragontrail glasses of Japanese with tremendous strength capacity of about 60kg or sharp objects directly on the screen. On the back of a click-toughened Gorilla Glass scratch-resistant and finally the other components of the body using Polycarbonate material and fiberglass (glass fiber polymer) normal 300 times more durable plastic.
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http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4551/49606/1/rv/sony-xperia-z-L36h-review/
If those are genuine Sony slides, than we finally have a confirmation:
Front: Dragontrail Glass
Back: Gorilla Glass
Sides: Polycarbonate
Body: Glass Fiber Polyamide
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Just wondering, have you tried taking it to the shower with you? lol
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Nope, not yet I have washed it in the sink a few times and it just ain't bothered by any water! It's a very, very weird feeling and part of my brain was screaming "Nooooooooooo!" but it's all fine
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http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4551/49606/1/rv/sony-xperia-z-L36h-review/
If those are genuine Sony slides, than we finally have a confirmation:
Front: Dragontrail Glass
Back: Gorilla Glass
Sides: Polycarbonate
Body: Glass Fiber Polyamide
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Why would they have gorilla on the back and dragontrail on the front though?
Isn't Nexus 4 gorilla on the back or is that some kind of weaker glass? (Was thinking about the crackings due to sudden changes in temp)
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Why would they have gorilla on the back and dragontrail on the front though?
Isn't Nexus 4 gorilla on the back or is that some kind of weaker glass? (Was thinking about the crackings due to sudden changes in temp)
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No idea. Heard that Nexus 4's back is not gorilla glass though. Also, Nexus 4 wasn't the first phone to use glass back, and this problem seems to be bugging mostly Nexus 4 users ( not often found in any other brand ) so maybe it's some kind of LG specific defect.
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No idea. Heard that Nexus 4's back is not gorilla glass though. Also, Nexus 4 wasn't the first phone to use glass back, and this problem seems to be bugging mostly Nexus 4 users ( not often found in any other brand ) so maybe it's some kind of LG specific defect.
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I have a faint memory about the back not being gorilla on nexus 4 and now that you mention it i haven't hear anything about other phones with cracks (except iphones but they're meant to break just by looking at it..)
I have spoken to a Sony Rep and apparently Sony uses Gorilla Glass 2 as well as DragonTrail. Devices will come with either one installed. (you might have the front panel made of GG2 and back from DT) and consumers will not have a choice of the glass used. The back panel of the phone has an additional layer on the glass which provides some glare effect (so that could be the layer that is being scratched and not the actual glass). On the front there will be a screen protector preinstalled.
Users will not have an option to select the glass used in their phone, so we will either have GG2 or DT on the front and either GG2 or DT on the back. I think that this should also clarify the on going debate about which glass is used in Xperia Z.
Omg that's so bad. Might have to hold back on this one.
I still don't understand why Sony would do such a thing. Wouldn't it be easier for them to use both DT? Or are they cheaping out on the glass?
May I ask which sony you asked? Europe? Hong Kong?
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Omg that's so bad. Might have to hold back on this one.
I still don't understand why Sony would do such a thing. Wouldn't it be easier for them to use both DT? Or are they cheaping out on the glass?
May I ask which sony you asked? Europe? Hong Kong?
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I am from Poland and I spoke to official Sony rep. I got his number from a Sony Store in Poznan, Poland after I asked them if I could do a scratch test on their display device in store
Sv: [Q] Xperia Z Dragontrail, Gorilla Glass, Polycarbonate, glass fiber
I was concerned about the glass on the Nexus 4 until I dropped it once and then a couple more times... so far it is intact... in my opinion Sony has far bettef manufacturing than LG but will see what happens. Phonewise I am not impressed by the Nexus 4 but for tha price you cannot complain ...
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I have spoken to a Sony Rep and apparently Sony uses Gorilla Glass 2 as well as DragonTrail. Devices will come with either one installed. (you might have the front panel made of GG2 and back from DT) and consumers will not have a choice of the glass used. The back panel of the phone has an additional layer on the glass which provides some glare effect (so that could be the layer that is being scratched and not the actual glass). On the front there will be a screen protector preinstalled.
Users will not have an option to select the glass used in their phone, so we will either have GG2 or DT on the front and either GG2 or DT on the back. I think that this should also clarify the on going debate about which glass is used in Xperia Z.
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I don't think you can use two types of glass like that, with one device getting one or another... XZ wouldn't be certified for release ( by the likes of FCC etc ) if that were true. You need to provide one, particular specification for each device to be allowed to even release it on the market. You could file a class law suit for selling randomly inferior devices as the same model and for the same price - Sony certainly wouldn't do that. There might be some regional differences, but it's certainly not GG or DT at random. I think they might have made a mistake or didn't know this at all.
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I don't think you can use two types of glass like that, with one device getting one or another... XZ wouldn't be certified for release ( by the likes of FCC etc ) if that were true. You need to provide one, particular specification for each device to be allowed to even release it on the market. You could file a class law suit for selling randomly inferior devices as the same model and for the same price - Sony certainly wouldn't do that. There might be some regional differences, but it's certainly not GG or DT at random. I think they might have made a mistake or didn't know this at all.
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Why would the FCC give a crap what glass is used? They are a communications regulator not a design regulator.
It is highly unlikely that the glass would cause communication issues, or interference with other electronics
Loss of response and screen clarity
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iujona said:
Loss of response and screen clarity
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not with sgp ultra crystal, what screen protector are you using?
AW: Don't use a screen protector
Was just about to say. Use a real protector and not some transparent plastic you found in your fridge.
In defense of iujona some expensive "military grade" screen protectors are almost like sticking a combination of bubble plastic and syrup to your screen.
I finally settled for a hard plastic variety that does not get marked by my S-Pen and cheap enough to change every month or so.
A screen protector goes a long way towards protecting your screen from enemies like sand. It also helps in preventing dynamic tension release. Allow me to explain. When gorilla glass is made, the final step is to dip the glass into a polymer, which makes a thin oleophobic coating, and then shrinks a bit, making a tight fit. This greatly improves durability, but puts the entire pane under orthogonal volumetric shearing strain, or for the common man's day to day vocabulary, stress. When the screen them scratches, this stress/pressure is released, and causes a crack, similar to how one would score a glass pane to cut it. The panel of glass will, on the next fall, fail along this near invisible hairline. Screen protectors prevent the layer on the glass from breaking in this manner, by acting as the first line of defence.
Tl;dr: spans l spend a few bucks on a good screen protector, even if you feel its a tad expensive. It's a miniscule portion of what was spent on the phone, and is well worth it
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True, yet...
1. people report that after the factory fitted protector is removed, the glass does not exhibit oleophobic properties
2. as can be taken from above, a protector is already fitted, so the shattering effect should be eliminated already
3. I spend a whopping 20 bucks on the one I ordered and planning to glue it on top of the already fitted one
What a great and insightful thread
DO USE a screen protector.
If your screen protector caused any losses in responsivenes or clarity - change brand because it's not very good...
How can you buy a 500 pounds glass phone and not apply a screen protector on it ?
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How can you buy a 500 pounds glass phone and not apply a screen protector on it ?
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I don't use screen protectors and never have it always reminds me of people who leave plastic covers on their car seats.
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I put on an 'invisibleshield' from zagg and haven't noticed any difference in response.
It set me back about 15 pounds sterling but since my last phones screen got badly scratched bouncing around in my pocket, I figured that 15 bucks really wasn't much.
It's worth looking after stuff sometimes.
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After trying many screen protectors seems like there's no quality ones yet in hongkong.
Gonna wait and order one from Japan, rakuten...
I have use a screen protector anyway , I don't think that had any responsible problem
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I'm using a screen protector that made in japan
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Guys there is such a choice it's overwhelming; maybe care to present your favourite brand and why you chose it?
BTW apparently there are screen protectors made out of tempered glass...
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redThd said:
Guys there is such a choice it's overwhelming; maybe care to present your favourite brand and why you chose it?
BTW apparently there are screen protectors made out of tempered glass...
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Christ, just rip off the protective foil. Then you'll have a -lo and behold- scratch resistant screen! Or make up your mind on a 2nd protector to buy.
I don't understand why I need a thick foil on a screen that doesn't scratch. No other recent phone needs it. Neither does this. And don't bring up the shatter thing again. If it breaks it breaks. You can drop it and break it without shattering the display.
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BTW apparently there are screen protectors made out of tempered glass...
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Spigen does that, they have nothing/not yet online concerning the Z though.
schaggo said:
Spigen does that, they have nothing/not yet online concerning the Z though.
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They do now!:silly::highfive::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38683874&postcount=61
did you apply a protection film?
I didn`t and I can see some small scratches on my device...
also, can you suggest me a good protection film for xperia z?
There Is a pre installed shatter proof film.
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There Is a pre installed shatter proof film.
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but it gets very easily scratched :S
I already had a few small scratches
I suggest you try one of the various cheap hard plastic screen protectors that are available. This cost only a few dollars so you can change them once every one or two months. That's what I do with my Note II
I think the point wawyed was making was your device is not scratched, the pre-installed film is.
There are quite a few threads on this exact topic already.... you can remove the pre-installed film if you wish - but you may loose your Sony logo. There are a few good replacement films out there (Spigen)
Bottom line: remove the stock film and replace, or leave the stock film - and put yet another one on top of it.
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I think the point wawyed was making was your device is not scratched, the pre-installed film is.
There are quite a few threads on this exact topic already.... you can remove the pre-installed film if you wish - but you may loose your Sony logo. There are a few good replacement films out there (Spigen)
Bottom line: remove the stock film and replace, or leave the stock film - and put yet another one on top of it.
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I read some informations on the net, but I` think the pre-installed one is a different kind of film
I was thinking about using a normal film over the pre-installed one
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did you apply a protection film?
I didn`t and I can see some small scratches on my device...
also, can you suggest me a good protection film for xperia z?
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I had applied 3M Vikuiti ADQC27 to Xperia Arc S, S, T, TX and I ordered one more set for tomorrow when I get XZ. I was very pleased with this screen protector, but tomorrow I'll decide on which one to apply them: 3M or the 2 that come in the package (I ordered extra package with dockingstation, smartTags and screen protector). And yes, I put it over the preinstalled one :good:.
Where did you ordered the extra package?
get a set of these and be done with it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2222928
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but it gets very easily scratched :S
I already had a few small scratches
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The back of my phone has a couple of hairline scratches - I presume it's because of the bolts near my jeans' pocket. But the screen is fine so far. :victory:
Do you think that will be available a screen protector like the anti-shatter film that Sony put on the phone? It's scratching very easy and I'm thinking that if something similar will be available then I will remove the one from Sony and put that one. On other Xperia phones is available this kind of screen protector?
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Do you think that will be available a screen protector like the anti-shatter film that Sony put on the phone? It's scratching very easy and I'm thinking that if something similar will be available then I will remove the one from Sony and put that one. On other Xperia phones is available this kind of screen protector?
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I think the chance of that happening is 1%, but I am surprised that companies haven't brought screen protectors with the sony logo/text.
Also a thing Sony could do is to bring out a services to re-apply the anti shatter sheet for us, specially since it scratches so easy.
Anyways, the reason why I don't see it happening is because the anti shatter sheet is being applied by a device, it needs to fit perfectly or it might lose it's function. Screen protectors can be applied by men, because it's only there to protect the device from scratches and such, not to stop the screen from shattering, even though normal screen protectors also do that, but on a smaller scale.
1. There is no screen protector with Sony logo because of patent / copy rights. It would be very expensive to get the right to use the logo.
2. Sony already offers the service to replace the anti shatter film. Costs about 20 bucks
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20 bucks is not much but I think is not ok to charge me that money for a piece of anti shatter film that scratches very very easily, I've put an cheap film and I will look for a better one in the future to preserve this anti shatter , but extremely scratching film from Sony. That's a huge minus for them. A gorilla glass would be a perfect solution, too bad that Sony didn't think of that. But I still love the phone
I'd prefer to completely remove the anti shatter film, but something is still holding me back. Maybe it's because I payed some hard earned money for that thing, whatever don't wanna argue about that here.
I did not put any other protection film on my XZ. I think it's odd to have two on you display and to be honest there is nothing compared to real glass. the feeling is way better... still don't wanna argue 'bout that.
so I have no protection on my display and I do not use a case... "this guy is an idiot" ...I will buy one soon; I promise. For now I use a little bag where I used to keep my sunglasses. Btw Krussel has some nice covers. "get to the point dude!" ...I keep my XZ in a sidepocket of my jacket and there is nothing else in that pocket and stil I got a few scratches on my display. It does not bother me at all. You have to look very closely to see them. What I am trying to say is that the anti shatter film scratches very easy and as far as I remeber there is gorilla glas underneath... so close, yet so far. I can live with that... for now. Someday I will take it off anyway. I just love my plain black XZ without any logos. LOL, I used to put a little piece of dark tape on my old s2, just to cover up the logo.
Hi everyone,
I'm planning on purchasing the Nexus 5X in a few days, just need to find the right accessories for it (cables, cases, screen protectors).
I was wondering if anyone can recommend a screen protector that has a cutout for the proximity sensor.
Also, I seriously only found out today there is such a thing as tempered glass. After researching a bit, I learned of it's pros (actually protects your screen if the phone falls) and it's cons (can crack easily for no reason ,poses somewhat of a health risk if breaks).
Pros: http://temperedglassscreenprotector.org/
Cons: http://www.clear-coat.com/blog/why-we-dont-sell-tempered-glass-screen-protectors/
Strangely, all the screen protectors I find on Amazon are tempered glass.
So, which one should I buy (tempered or plastic), and can you recommend a specific screen protector?
I wouldn't say they crack easily, but that'll depend on a bunch of variables. All I can say is it looks good and feels much nicer than the PET/non tempered glass screen protectors. Spigen is a good brand to go with.
Read the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3214188
I recommend the skinomi screen protector, it's not glass. It's the kind that feels like rubber and applied via water. I love these.
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
Hi, Im very pleased with Nexus 5X Screen Protector, Spigen® [Crystal] Full HD, I used to have it on my Nexus 5 and I was so satisfied that I bought it again for my N5x. Feels like glass, perfecly cutted you have 3x screen protector included, dust removal and positionning tool to hlelp perfect use. At least two times saved my screen on my old nexus 5. And almost nobody noticed that Im using a screen protector....
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
Personally, I trust Corning Gorilla Glass 3 as sufficient in this generation. You might get a scratch or two over a few year span, but, virtually everything your phone will meet won't be hard enough to damage the glass.
Pandages said:
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
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I would love to.
Pandages said:
Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
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I don't really understand, you're talking about tempered glass screen protectors?
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If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
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Can you give me some examples? Are the products recommended to me here (like the Spigen) multicoated?
elyashiv1994 said:
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
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You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
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You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
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There is something that I can put in the mic to seal it? I don't want to take risk(especially when you have holes in top and bottom)
glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
I've been using glass screen protectors since May 2014. I swear by them. They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. I've only had to replace them twice. Once because an edge got pulled up months later so there was a air gap on one side. The second time, it actually did crack but that was after falls with a TPU case on. As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does. And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says. On the two replacements, I broke them fully and the pieces stay together. Also I really like the glass feel. Not sure how non-glass screen protectors feel though. Back when invisibleSHIELD was popular, that tacky feel wasn't nice.
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Jill McAuliffe said:
glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
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Thanks. Does it cover the proximity sensor?
Even though the image shows it is, some companies say that despite the image, their product does not cover the sensor.
EeZeEpEe said:
They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. ... And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says.
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Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
EeZeEpEe said:
As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does.
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You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
TheeWolf said:
Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
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Exactly. I think of it similar to a crumple zone in a car. It will absorb some of the force before the phone's glass does. Now of course, with a great amount of force like dropping it from 10 feet or throwing it, I'm sure both the screen protector and the phone's glass would break. Regular accidental drops should work out the way I described.
As for outdoor visibility, there's no noticeable decrease in brightness or increase in glare. All of the manufactures usually advertise something like 99.9% transparency.
Here's an interesting tempered glass screen protector review. Cued up exactly on the drop test to rocks and removal:
https://youtu.be/UnvC6EERMyI?t=2m21s
Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
bblzd said:
Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
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Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
EeZeEpEe said:
Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
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I have no background on the subject but just thinking about it logically, I don't think glass can be as protective as plastic.
For instance RhinoShield only offers plastic screen protectors. Their test videos show how easily GG would break from certain impacts and how much plastic protects it. Even the best tempered glass can only hope to be as strong as GG.
My basic understanding of the situation is glass protectors work because it breaks and saves the screen underneath, where as plastic works by actually strengthening the glass itself.
However for each time the glass protector breaks and needs to be replaced, the plastic would keep on trucking.
I think the misunderstanding arises when a user drops their phone with a glass protector and it breaks thus "saving" their screen. But what if they had plastic? Would the screen of broken then? What if they had no protector? We can't say for sure what the results would have been. However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
bblzd said:
However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
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Right. That's how I see it as a user. Also, the clarity, feel, and scratch resistance can't be matched by plastic.
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I've actually dropped my 5x naked just once so far and got lucky without any cracks, but I do believe if I had a glass SP it would've broken. In the end I think it's luck and a good case that will protect from a bad drop as the screen protector is mainly for scratch protection. I've kept my glass SP as a backup in case the factory oleophobic coating stops working as effectively.
Here.
IQ Shield LiQuidSkin - Huawei Nexus 6P Screen Protector (2015) & Warranty Replacements - HD Ultra Clear Film - Protective Guard - Extremely Smooth / Self-Healing / Bubble-Free Shield
They also have glass. Check em both.
http://www.amazon.com/B016CKR3QA/dp...055&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6p+screen+protector
Can not find any protection information in display section.
Hello
If you google a bit you will read the that a Huawei spokesperson stated[1] "For screen protection, we have used premium materials such as Gorilla Glass 5 and include a screen protector as part of the integrated product."
[1] https://www.androidcentral.com/huawei-p10-screen-protector-oleophobic-coating
pearson44j said:
Hello
If you google a bit you will read the that a Huawei spokesperson stated[1] "For screen protection, we have used premium materials such as Gorilla Glass 5 and include a screen protector as part of the integrated product."
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Your link does not talk about the P20 Pro
There is a screen protector on from the factory I noticed. Has anyone taken theirs off? I feel like it's interfering with the interface making it less responsive but know as soon as I take it off it'll never go back on the same!
Just took my screen protector off, feels way better the figer print button is flush everything feels more premium, no scratches yet
Gorilla glass or no, I wouldn't drop it. Can't rely on any phone glass to survive unless the frame of the phone gives it some protection. Most modern phones are like Icicles and shatter when you look at them.
I dropped mine from above my head while taking a picture at a gig and there's no damage at all.
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Gorilla glass confirmed
I have had written confirmation from Huawei support that they use Gorilla glass 5 in the P20 pro.
xtommox said:
There is a screen protector on from the factory I noticed. Has anyone taken theirs off? I feel like it's interfering with the interface making it less responsive but know as soon as I take it off it'll never go back on the same!
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I took mine off by accident since I thought it was an extra layer of packaging protection. First time I've ever bought a phone that came with a screen protector pre-applied. Moving my fingers across the screen definitely feels a lot smoother without it, which is also the main reason I've never used screen protectors in the past (that and not being able to put them on without getting bubbles below them the couple of times I've tried).
I think I'll leave it without any additional protection, I've only dropped phone two or three times in my life. Though they did actually crack on those occasions.
I think I mentioned this somewhere else, but I cracked my P20's screen. It's not fatal, just a hairline crack cutting off the top left corner. I still don't really know how it happened. I haven't dropped the phone. I think it is possible that I scratched it and then the scratch turned into a crack. Anyway, I don't think a screen protector would have saved it, as screen protectors are pretty much redundant on gorliia glass phones. Whatever scratched it (a stone I guess) was strong enough to damage the glass so would have probably cut straight through the plastic protector.
It doesn't have gorilla glass, but it does have some protection.
See the below link
https://twitter.com/HuaweiIndia/status/993763228814663680?s=19
Its the same material used in gorilla glass though.
Lol the tweet basically confirms that there is no scratch protection whatsoever. Its a shame Huawei tried to save costs on such high end and expensive phone. (view 10 is the same. Why they do this is beyond me.)
h8Aramex said:
Lol the tweet basically confirms that there is no scratch protection whatsoever. Its a shame Huawei tried to save costs on such high end and expensive phone. (view 10 is the same. Why they do this is beyond me.)
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But Gorilla glass is alumino silicate glass?
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But Gorilla glass is alumino silicate glass?
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Well, that's just part of the equation. View 10 also has a "just as good" glass, according to Huawei, but scratches on every occasion. Bottom line is, Huawei tried to cheap out on the protector (again), which is shameful. Bought a Mate 10 Pro, was thinking about selling the P10 Plus we have and buying a P20 Plus, but ...thanks no.
Tbh trademarked names won't save you from breaking the screen.
I'd say glass in flagships is almost identical nowadays and if you drop it be prepared for the crack.
Feel free to remove the plastic screen protector and apply some a good quality glass one. That's what I am aiming for.
Screen with no protector can easily scratch from sand grains that might be in your pocket for example.
two webpages from Germany...
Gorilla glass 5
https://www.inside-handy.de/handys/huawei-p20-pro-dual-sim
https://www.teltarif.de/smartphone/huawei/p20-pro/
Huawei P20 pro has Gorilla glass protection
Jonathan-H said:
Gorilla glass or no, I wouldn't drop it. Can't rely on any phone glass to survive unless the frame of the phone gives it some protection. Most modern phones are like Icicles and shatter when you look at them.
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Corning's website shows that Huawei P20 Pro has Gorilla Glass 5.
Gorilla or not all screens are prone to smashing. I wouldn't carry a several hundred pound device in my pocket 24/7 without ample protection. I always use a decent case and glass screen protector. I highly recommend Spigen in both cases, very good quality and not expensive in comparison to others on the market.
People seem confused by Huawei's decision to cut costs in areas like this but I couldn't justify spending £800 on a such a device and wouldn't have a flagship device if they hadn't.
If you're clumsy, you're clumsy. Gorilla glass can't save you.