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the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
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Phone lacks the proximity sensor the iPhone has. Fortunately, it has a plethora of other useful features (a keyboard, picture messages, etc.)
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To add on to that the phone also goes to sleep when the call is connected and its just a matter of pressing the power button to get it to wake up again.
mine doesnt
Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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is there a setting for this?
is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
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is it possible to in fact use the light sensor? it obviously recognizes something when it turns off, maybe write up something saying "when dark below 'x' threshold, turn off screen. when bright above threshold, screen on. you would have to press the screen somewhat snugly to your face, but it sure beats nothing.
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It should be possible, but no one has done anything with the light sensor of turning it back on. I'm thinking that the polling of the light sensor turns off when the screen is in standby. If we can somehow get that to work in only incall (so it doesn't have battery issues), then it should work, when it goes from little light to more light, it should act as close to phone to far away from phone.
One could even use 2 sensors for it? Maybe the Light-Sensor and the G-Sensor. So when u bring the phone to your ear the light gets dark an the position upright. (the phone turns the screen off) And as soon as it get brighter and the position is change to normal (whatever that is ) it turns back on.
I reall would love to write something like that. But so far i have no clue of writing anything for that phone. Does anyone know a tutorial for writing software for a pda?
Thx
Come on guys this would be soooo great
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Well mine has always went black when it goes up to my ear, but it would be nice if it came back on when removed from my ear.. although we dont have a proximity sensor, i dont see why it coulnt work with the gsensor/accelerometer. all it would have to do is go on when the phone is put back in the upright position
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It doesn't actually do that when you put it up to your ear. It's a WinMo setting to put the phone in standby after a call is launched or received. What you preceive as behavior is actually a timing thing.
The guy from pocket shield managed to combine these two sensors, g-sensor and light sensor, to work together as locking/unlocking behavior.
maybe some g-sensor and lumos code can handle this thing... and create one cab solution here...
if some one could write this code it would be an AWESOME addition to the Phone. I would personaly love this as im sure many others would.
Thanks.
this is a bit late, but here's a cool app that i've found...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
no its not too late. if people look around they would have found it.
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the iphone switches the screen off when it goes to your head then turns back on when u take it away. is there a simple app for this??
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searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
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searching is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
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reading is your friend..look at the dates posted
Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
Actually you could either turn on the screen lock so that even if it turns on, it's locked and none of the buttons or screen touching will do anything, and the machine will turn itself off after a while.
Or,
you can install BSB tweaks and set it so that the phone doesn't turn on unless you tell it to.
Most of the time it's not the device, it's the user. Especially obvious when reading user reviews and most users claim features don't exist when in fact they never found them. Or phone is capable of certain things, but the user is not only unaware, they are angry the features are not there.
GET TO KNOW YOUR DEVICE or use available tweaks and information
use a loud ringtone, use vibrate, use a screenlock program... (S2U2 is excellent, but you may find it complex).
Or extend the phone ring time before it goes into voicemail (that's in phone settings I recall)
The phone is not perfect, but it can very easily be configured to avoid accidental answering or not noticing the call in the first place. That said, the standard options are not good...
To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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First of all tweaking does not mean a phone was badly designed, tweaking or modding gives the option to add, remove, or change anything you want in your phone. With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones. And what you are saying makes no freaking sense. How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol? How about you give more info on what rom you are using becuase what your saying makes no dam sense.
Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol?
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The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5? If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead? Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off? Also maybe the latest version of the lock app S2U2 V2.41 might solve your problems. I've had my phone for 8 month's and have never experienced what you are saying or herd of but then again I don't keep my phone on a beltclip I keep it in my pocket. It sounds like S2U2 2.41 should help because it gives access to those options you want to change in the S2U2 settings.
This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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My phone is the same way but I'm on a custom rom. He might have to flash is phone if nothing else works.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
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Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
Faceeat said:
The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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As mentioned previously there are many alternitive unlocking programs
Slide to unlock 2 (S2u2) is very good, customisable and free.
Here is the website http://ac-s2.com/ you can also find threads about it on XDA Developers.
I am currently using Throttle lock, Provides extra security without having to use pins, customisable, and free here is the website http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/Products/ThrottleLock/throttlelock-09
Once again you can find threads about it on XDA Developers.
to use either of these programs, just download the .cabs from the websites, transfer them to your phone and click on them to begin installation.
hope that helps.
For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5?
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Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
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Yes, but I'm pretty sure no one wants their phone wasting batteries.
If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead?
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What difference would that make? I keep other things in my pocket that are probably more likely to hit the touch screen. Besides, I got the phone before I got a belt clip. It was in my pocket first. I thought the belt clip would make it better. Since it doesn't I still prefer the belt clip for the phone's accessibility.
Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off?
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On that screen in the settings there's an option to turn off the device after a certain amount of time. Before, when I was in those settings, I had it unchecked, thinking it would turn the phone off completely. But it does exactly what I want—it disables the touch screen after a minute.
Still, that's not a perfect solution, but it helps a lot. That plus the lock app should make it well within working standards. Thank you.
SORRY FOR WASTING YOUR TIME GUYS. I take back what I said. I'm now an enlightened individual. I can build rainbows with my mouth.
Faceeat said:
Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
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Maybe a magnet on your belt phone keeper
turns on the phone...........
Recently I also discovered that keeping X1 close to a second mobile phone MAKES X1 randomly open apps by itself....
Crazy but true!!!!
Once somebody calls you and quits,
without your reaction there's no way you can activate anything if your phone is locked with a code....
A short press of the power button suspends the screen? lol.
I was about to say it but sean0r beat me to it (by weeks lol)
I felt the same thing when I first bought the phone (1-2 hours).
I just usually set my backlight to turn off after 10-30 secs. (Settings->Power->Advance Tab)
And I also don't use the lock feature since I think it's more of a hassle then to just turn the screen off (power button, like sean0r said) then turn the screen on again when I'm about to use it. It basically does the same thing like the lock/unlock button, it help prevents unwanted screen touch, only I feel it's way way more faster than the unlock button (even if you configured the lock/unlock button, to lock quicker).
And since you're new, if you haven't used any of the great custom ROMs you should definitely try it!! Read the guides carefully though, I warn you it might be addictive =D
The custom ROMs and this great XDA community is what made me keep this phone despite this phone's poor poor poor poor poor...I mean horrible build quality! Sony should thank these guys...seriously...
Sorry for bumping an old thread...
I'll rebump - flash Mr. Rusch's Touch X ROM if you are a noob. It is slick, stable, and well configured by default.
It isn't the flashiest, but it is stable and convenient. I highly recommend for beginners.
Sounds like you're using the actual security lock with password, try just using the keylock where you slide it to use it. (Like iphone)
regardless, I think you should flash energie rom on your phone.
Ive flashed many many roms including spikegottis, 826x, and even various Titanium roms but energie is the best overall for speed, apps and reliability
Hello there, I bought a wallet cover to my Lumia 920 (if needed, google it, i couldn't post the link) and I wanna know if there's any way to lock/unlock the screen without pressing any button, just openning/closing the cover. Maybe something that works with call sensor that turns the screen off when near the ear.
Well, this would be amazing.
Thanks !
No. Not only would that require that the proximity sensor be continuously active, it would also mean that, if your phone was (for example) sitting next to you on the desk the way mine is, every tim my hand moved past it in range of the sensor it would come on. This would be quite bad for battery life.
Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
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Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
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Yep I have the same thing... Today my pocket took 9599295 pictures and movies.. also when I'm a bit sweat my pocket dial random numbers. I've noticed that when screen is touched and disnt recognize fingerprint then whole lockscreen shows up and its easy way to random open dial or camera... Its rly anoying, because I dont want to hide phone screen outside of the skin. (Its easier to break screen if I hit something with my leg.)
Dunno why it doesnt use proximity sensor to recognize that phone is in the pocket like every other brand... :/
Do you have the double tap to wake up activated?
I had this problem a while ago and it was the double tap that played all kinds of tricks calling emergency and taking pictures in my pocket! Disable double tap to wake up screen and the problem goes away.
Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
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Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
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My only solution was to buy a flip case. At first, I disabled the fingerprint reader by removing all fingerprints and setting up face recognition, but this didn’t fix the problem you are talking about. I don’t really like flip cases, but the Nillkin QIN Smartcase is rather good.
So now I ‘m eagerly awaiting a fix from Xiaomi so I can strip the Mi9 again!
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Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
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Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. I don't have the problem and just wanted to know where I can disable the fingerprint icon. Thanks again.
New uppdate out that include Pocket Mode. MIUI-V10.2.27.0PFAEUXM EEA version.
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
tim2london said:
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
enigmaamit said:
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
aj7400 said:
I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
KingFatty said:
Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
KingFatty said:
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
KingFatty said:
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
ELp2 said:
What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat