Hi everyone,
I know almost nothing about customs roms or flashing or things like that but I decided that I've been acting ignorant about them. I decided to root my device and flash a rom when I find one that I like.
But I got a one question; I read quite a few times that custom roms limit the capabilities of camera interfaces. With Zoe on its way, I wouldn't want to sacrifice on that feature.
Do you think there'll be roms that can enable it along with doing all the tricks a custom rom does?
Dharkan said:
Hi everyone,
I know almost nothing about customs roms or flashing or things like that but I decided that I've been acting ignorant about them. I decided to root my device and flash a rom when I find one that I like.
But I got a one question; I read quite a few times that custom roms limit the capabilities of camera interfaces. With Zoe on its way, I wouldn't want to sacrifice on that feature.
Do you think there'll be roms that can enable it along with doing all the tricks a custom rom does?
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If any customized functionality is lost, its usually on AOSP roms. The stock and stock based roms will retain all functionality, unless its removed by the dev himself
The reason is that HTC roms come with a proprietary framework called Sense that gives you things like the quick-settings in status bar, extra camera options
AOSP roms are basically what a Nexus device receives as its update from Google. The manufacturers then take this and add their own spin on it
Samsung takes and add their Touchwiz framework, LG takes it and adds their LG UI, and HTC takes it and add their Sense interface
So as you can see, AOSP roms are basically stripped down versions of these OEM-skinned roms, and its these OEM skins that will add things like extra camera options (something HTC is very famous for > its awesome camera apps)
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I've searched all over today, but I have only found a couple of threads on the issue, none of which seemed to give a clear answer. I now have my first Android phone (Atrix). I love the customization potential of the platform, but it seems a little choppy at times on the graphical side of things. What I want to know is this: is it possible to create an Android rotation effect, such as the iPhone has when switching between portrait and landscape modes? Can this be achieved with simple root access and development, or would it take a custom kernel? Are there any themes or ROMs which provide this possibilty. I know I can't run a custom kernel on the Atrix, but I'd still like to know, for future referenece. Thanks!
Only thing I've ever heard is that as it's a feature of honeycomb do we may see it added either in honeycomb roms or ported into gingerbread from honeycomb. Obviously we'd need Google to release the code first.
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Okay, thanks. That's good to know.
I really like 'trying out' different custom roms for my Galaxy S I9000 but I kinda wonder what does what?
For example, I want calendar appointments shown on my Pattern(!)-lockscreen. Some Roms can do this, others can't. Is this Rom-package-related? Or can I just try another kernel? As far as I can see most Roms can but CM not.
Another example, the Battery animation (and functionality) when charging with phone turned off. Rom-package or kernel related? Again, as fas as I can see (this time other way around), CM does this, other (Slim-based?) roms don't.
I suggest you go for CM 9 or AOKP. They contain most (If not all) of the features you've mentioned. (I'm really not sure about the calender appointments appearing on the pattern lock screen)
All of those features are ROM based and not Kernel based.
The kernel mainly deals with with how the hardware and software interact (A very basic understanding )
So give CM 9 or AOKP a go. In fact, I'd encourage you to try out a range of different ROMS (like you've been doing so far) and see which one suits you the best. The best way to learn is to become a flashaholic, get educated, make comparisons and choose what's best for you and your needs.
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Thank's for your reply!
However, I've ried AOPK, great rom but missing the battery-animation and functionality when phone turned off (like possibility to turn Phone on while charging).
I have also tried CM, also great but mssing the callendar-appointments on Pattern-lockscreen. Showing appointments is possible on optional swipe-screen prior to pattern-lockscreen.
Hello there
I have always switched between Google Edition and Sense ROMs ever since GPE ROMs were released. I love how simple, quick and bloat-free GPE ROMs are and I also love how feature-packed and elegant Sense feels and looks. I have decided to use GPE for a while and therefore I have a couple of questions regarding it:
1) Is it possible to get the native Sense mail client on it? I don't like the "EMAIL" application that comes with the GPE. I could try alternatives on the Playstore if need be.
2) Is there a modification to enable Advanced Power Management on it? I have searched in the Themes & Mods section but all of them seem to be for Sense ROMs only. Some people claim that ones designed for Nexus would work but I wouldn't want to risk trying that in case it'll mess anything up. I do have a Nandroid Backup just in case, though.
3) What are some good Quick Settings applications? I have tried Widgetsoid on more than one occasion and it's fairly good but there are a couple of things about it that annoy me, like how you must leave a notification icon in the left side of the status bar in order for the QS to be on top of the pull down, otherwise it'll just be an empty space which looks ridiculous.
4) What is the best mod to enable battery percentage or replace the stock one with one that shows percentage?
Thank you very much guys, I really appreciate your time.
Have a great day.
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2) I resolved number two by installing Xposed Framework and MoDaCo Toolkit and enabling Advanced Power Management under "Google Nexus (all)" menu. I tried enabling it under "HTC One" but that didn't work, probably because it's for Sense-based ROMs.
4) I resolved number four by installing battery mods from this thread.
These are good questions. Although i dont know any answers, i may be able to point you in a direction that would help. Go check out Switch for the One at Switch.MoDaCo.com
Thank you for taking the time to reply and for your suggestion. I already removed MoDaCo Switch a couple of days ago so my question is regarding Google Play Edition only. Thanks again!
2) I resolved number two by installing Xposed Framework and MoDaCo Toolkit and enabling Advanced Power Management under "Google Nexus (all)" menu. I tried enabling it under "HTC One" but that didn't work, probably because it's for Sense-based ROMs.
4) I resolved number four by installing battery mods from this thread.
I have an AT&T HTC ONE and I constantly switch roms. It's annoying because I lose everything but I get bored easily because none of the roms are perfect.
I tried CyanogenMod and I didn't like it because I thought it was suppose to be stock android but it's not.
I tried AOKP, Paranoid Android, and PACMAN ROM all of which killed my battery and made it hot.
I even tried Stock Sense roms such as AndroidRevolution which is probably the best rom but I'm getting tired of Sense kind of. ViperOne Rom killed my battery so I didn't like that.
Then I tried MIUI because I love iPhone and hoping to go back when my contract ends because of how easy it is to use. The problem with android in my eyes is that it doesn't come with much support. On IOS you have your texts come in easily and you see them on your lockscreen, IOS has all kinds of apps like Weather, Clock which some Android Versions don't even come with. on android when I get a text all I see is a green light and it's annoying. It doesn't even light up my phone when I get a text, Android always makes like 5 different duplicates of a contact. MIUI did almost everything right. It provided you with many pre installed apps that you can use such as Weather, Calculator, Security, Calender, notes, etc. MIUI also had micloud which allowed me to text from my computer. The one problem with MIUI is that it doesn't support Group Messaging. And I know what everyone is thinking you can just download apps such as heads-up notifications and certain apps to change your lockscreen, hangouts that has support for Group Messaging. But that's the problem Id on't want to install 3rd Party apps that most of the time is laggy and doesn't work right. MIUI did lmost everthing right except minor stuff that is making me change again.
Now I know my post sort of became a rant on android and I'm sorry for that. All I want is a custom ROM that is different. If it's Stock sense that's fine. If it's like MIUI/IOS that's fine preferably no AOSP because AOSP has the least support of apps. I want a ROM that comes with many pre installed apps that the ROM creator made or that he partnered with an app on google play. So that When I get a text like the old Sense 5 where texts would appear on lockscreen(but it only worked with the provided Messaging app which was extremely laggy and disgusting) What i'm trying to say is I want a ROM that makes android SIMPLER, SO i'm not forced to close an app to read a text message or have unlck my phone just to read some notifications.
MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH ANDROID is that constantly everyday it lose connection to data. It ****** me of so much. I have to restart my phone just to get data again. It says I have 5 bars but it doesn't say LTE or 4g, and LTE is extremely slow on my android vs my moms iPhone 5.
Again i'm sorry that I went off-topic a alot. If no ROM has that simplicity I guess I'm forced to go to Android Revolution and download 3rd party apps. What apps do you guys recommend? I don't want it to look like IOS. I just want some of the features. What apps look the best(preferably material design) Like messaging apps or alternatives for Twitter or other apps.
Did I post this in the wrong forum?
I probably have terrible English in this post and once again i'm truly sorry!
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"Best ROM" topics are not allowed. This is for a number of reasons, including the obvious huge variation in subjective opinions, which can quickly become out of hand.
As always, since you in the midst of a variety of choices, we suggest you try various ROMs yourself until you find one that suits you.
Thanks, and good luck in your quest.
These are pretty standard on just about every ROM out there for pretty much all phones since Jelly Bean, and yet we still dont have the ability to add in more nav buttons or change around the order of them or anything on a single Nexus 6 ROM. We just barely seem to be getting the ability to change the height and I even saw one ROM that could change what happens on long press to one of the buttons. Yet no significant customization for even moving around the order of the 3 stock buttons. Do we have some issue on the N6 that is causing developers to not be able to implement this feature?
It'll come. But jeepers, the device is only a month and change in people's hands.
The feature is coming into the works, there are more important features than customizing the navigation bars.
The developers do the work as a hobby and for free. If you wanted to, you can contribute, otherwise wait.
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Do we have some issue on the N6 that is causing developers to not be able to implement this feature?
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Probably a few issues causing this.
First the phone came out a bit over a month ago, and was quite hard to get for a large portion of that time. Some devs didn't get their device until recently.
Second, they perhaps haven't had a lot of time recently to get to working on their custom ROM. This isn't their job, they have families, jobs, school and perhaps other things that are more important than working on their ROM. There have been a lot of holidays the past month or so, which also impedes them.
Third they need to plan. Look at what Lollipop has changed, what new things they can work on + what things they should bring back from their previous work. Perhaps they don't see navigation bar customization as a priority over the stuff they are working on. There is a lot of things that I would like to see that custom ROMs haven't touched for the most part. Reorganize the notification toggles for example. Navring edits. Lockscreen customization. And probably 50 other things that were standard on many 4.X ROMs. I am sure we will see eventually, that were included in many custom ROMs for Kitkat and other older OSes plus some new fun things (Ambient Display customization maybe).
Perhaps they are buying into the rumors that 5.1 is coming very early next year. And don't want to risk putting a lot of effort into 5.0.X when 5.1 could break whatever it is they have done. While this isn't likely a real cause in this instance, in other forms of development this has given some developers pause.
tl;dr: Patience is your friend. Hide the navbar and get a navbar replacement if you can't wait, I think LMT works.
zephiK said:
The feature is coming into the works, there are more important features than customizing the navigation bars.
The developers do the work as a hobby and for free. If you wanted to, you can contribute, otherwise wait.
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No need to be a ****, I was asking a serious question on if there were some limitations of the N6 framework that other devices dont have to deal with. Its not a complaint exactly, but a request for information on the issue. I have been through a LOT of devices over the last few years and all other devices I have seen get the feature even when they are brand new within a week or two of being unlocked. So it just seems like maybe there was an issue with significant changes to the OS framework causing developers to not be able to copy most of the code or something.If it is simply that no developer thinks it is a priority then that's fine, I was just wondering the reason.
Softkeyz (app in the play store) is working on adding lollipop support. It's a great nab bar app that I used on my Nexus 7.
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No need to be a ****, I was asking a serious question on if there were some limitations of the N6 framework that other devices dont have to deal with. Its not a complaint exactly, but a request for information on the issue. I have been through a LOT of devices over the last few years and all other devices I have seen get the feature even when they are brand new within a week or two of being unlocked. So it just seems like maybe there was an issue with significant changes to the OS framework causing developers to not be able to copy most of the code or something.If it is simply that no developer thinks it is a priority then that's fine, I was just wondering the reason.
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I wasn't being one. Users tend to criticize or be impatient for certain features that isn't present. @cupfulloflol said the same thing I did but elaborated more into detail so if the lack of details is what makes me what you call me then I apologize. I was getting straight to the point without the bonuses.
All I'm saying is that these developers are working for free and doing what they do as a hobby without being motivated by a salary. Features are being incorporated on a day-to-day basis, you just have to wait. Its one of the trade offs of having the newest and latest, you'll have to wait.
My point still stands, if you want to contribute and implement the customization for navigation bar then you can do so. There are tutorial guides on how to remap the buttons on the navigation bar in the themes & apps section, you can do them yourselves or port code from Kit Kat onto Lollipop on navigation bar customizations.