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Hi there!
I'm looking for a new phone to buy around februari 2013. I'm torn between the S3 and the S3 Mini. I listed up my Pro's and Con's beneath. Will there be as much xda software development for the S3 Mini as for the S3? I mean roms cyanogenmod, MIUI,.. All that cool stuff? I'm a huge android fan and love to root my android phones and customize them with custom roms
GALAXY S III MINI
Pro: Super comfortable size
Con: No LED-notification light, battery life, memory, no auto-brightness + how about android development?
GALAXY S III
Pro: everything is awesome + huge android development
Con: size
PS: I bought a Galaxy Note 7 months ago and it was way to big for me to handle, even when I used it for months.. It wasn't all that comfortable, so that's why i'm seriously considering a MINI over an S3... But I love the S3 in all other ways more (more features etc.).
Can you help me with my questions?
thanks!
sdequant said:
Hi there!
I'm looking for a new phone to buy around februari 2013. I'm torn between the S3 and the S3 Mini. I listed up my Pro's and Con's beneath. Will there be as much xda software development for the S3 Mini as for the S3? I mean roms cyanogenmod, MIUI,.. All that cool stuff? I'm a huge android fan and love to root my android phones and customize them with custom roms
GALAXY S III MINI
Pro: Super comfortable size
Con: No LED-notification light, battery life, memory, no auto-brightness + how about android development?
GALAXY S III
Pro: everything is awesome + huge android development
Con: size
PS: I bought a Galaxy Note 7 months ago and it was way to big for me to handle, even when I used it for months.. It wasn't all that comfortable, so that's why i'm seriously considering a MINI over an S3... But I love the S3 in all other ways more (more features etc.).
Can you help me with my questions?
thanks!
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about s3 mini hope with new update software 4.1.2 the notification led solve. if about software .
S III Mini
Honestly, the S III Mini is still a bit overpriced (at least in my country), tho I got it a few days ago and I really like it. Was a HTC Desire user, and was looking for a same size phone. This one has all the Desire lacked in terms of hardware, but the development is not that shiny because of the chipset. If you can find, S II would probably be a good choice.
I've been using the S3 Mini for about a month, and I'm quite satisfied with it! The thing is, the 4.1.2 Update was extremely disappointing, and there are very few devs out there supporting it! I've been thinking of taking up ROM porting, just because of that :silly: Anyway, I don't expect much from my effort...
Besides that, you have summarized pretty much everything considering these two devices. I would highly recommend that you buy the normal S3 if you want to install custom ROMs, and generally mess around with it.
i think s 3 mini will be great 4-6 month later , since we have not much hh owner+developer , and its diff version on each region..
i just hope there will be offcial CM.10.1 for this phone.. hope not too long
well ofc ill go s 3 if i want to choose which one the best... but i just cant afford the price lol
For me, I went out on a mission to buy a new phone, as my wildfire buzz' battery died and repair wanted £15 for a new batt'. Considering the buzz wouldn't even sell for that amount, new phone it is.
So I was going to get the S3 knowing about cm (but hating the size), and i saw the S3 mini. Looked up the hardware specs and bought it straight away.
Shame about the lack of updates and cm though
I wish I knew more about porting too.
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I have an s3 mini and my father has an s3, imagine the old man trying to use it, he is about to sell it and buy an iphone. Anyway, the no led thing was the thing that bugged me the most, i solved it with bln mod from the xda forum, that makes the lights of the buttons to blink on new messages, but of course i had to pay.
On my overall experience (software, hardware, apps, size, etc) i will always choose the s3 over the s3 mini, the size is not that much of a problem considering that it almost doubles the mini in specs, mods and developing
I hope it helps you, my advice, don't buy an s3 mini
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nanogi said:
I have an s3 mini and my father has an s3, imagine the old man trying to use it, he is about to sell it and buy an iphone. Anyway, the no led thing was the thing that bugged me the most, i solved it with bln mod from the xda forum, that makes the lights of the buttons to blink on new messages, but of course i had to pay.
On my overall experience (software, hardware, apps, size, etc) i will always choose the s3 over the s3 mini, the size is not that much of a problem considering that it almost doubles the mini in specs, mods and developing
I hope it helps you, my advice, don't buy an s3 mini
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What you mean you have to pay? Bln kernel is free to use..
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Why revive such an old thread
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What you mean you have to pay? Bln kernel is free to use..
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to make lights blink i use bln control pro, i could not do it with free version
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Why revive such an old thread
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because I can
nanogi said:
to make lights blink i use bln control pro, i could not do it with free version
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Use NoLED. It's free, and since our screens are AMOLED, it won't use a lot of battery.
Someone could create support for these two options in the Galaxy Tab P5110
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It will be great to see Multi-windows option on our Galaxy Tab 2.
Maybe Samsung will make it for us. Unfortunately, I think, Samsung can't do this, because Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 is no longer top model of Galaxy Tabs. Now Samsung Galaxy Note II is newsest, and it is Samsung's eye in head
Waiting for modders, who's can make it for us ...
Samsung is a shame that as soon leave this tab, but I guess if you can create multi-window support. In the S2 have introduced multi-window support, ripple effect and ink. What is required is that some developer support us will try to get help to bring these improvements to our tablet
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It will not to be easy.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 is commercial tablet. There's no much difference between Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 ...
One thing making Samsung politics is buissnes. That's all. Samsung want a lot of money and they are not interesting in older devices which makes less of money now. Sad but true.
I thinks it is possible because note 1 n7000 don't have multi windows et ripple effect et alliance team make this
I am small dev I make rom for note 1 and note 2 but not release in xda for my reason...
If you want we work in integrated this goodies?
Because section tab 2 is dead pffff
Pm me if you want and sorry for my English very bad looool
Yes it could be done, if someone will port the mods from the threads below to work with some of our ROMs once we get JB 4.1.2 from Samsung.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024227
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006684
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It will not to be easy.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 is commercial tablet. There's no much difference between Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 ...
One thing making Samsung politics is buissnes. That's all. Samsung want a lot of money and they are not interesting in older devices which makes less of money now. Sad but true.
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What a ridiculous comment. Samsung does a good job of software updates for older devices. Better than most. Remember they make no money from updating your old device and the reason to be in business is to make a profit, not to cater to every whim of power users. Most people that own these tablets wouldn't even know what a software update is and could care less. They just want it to work and be reliable. So think the fact that Samsung churns out dozens of updated for a multitude of devices in variety of languages is pretty cool.
I once purchased a HTC Flyer, cool device , great hardware, pretty damn expensive. It never received one single software update and HTC dropped support for it after 4 months.
Samsung just put out a JB 4.1.1 update for your tablet this month. You expectations are unrealistic. Do you expect Samsung to assign a personal developer to you to support your every whine on a daily basis?
Want This sooo bad
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It would be great to have it, but as I can see there is not one single custom ROM based on stock JB for the P5110
I wanted to try doing it myself, but I wasn't even able to make cygwin work on my PC...
DigitalMD said:
Yes it could be done, if someone will port the mods from the threads below to work with some of our ROMs once we get JB 4.1.2 from Samsung.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024227
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006684
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is it possible to hv multiscreen?
just want it so badly....
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of course it is possible on the part of devs, to a certain extent.
you need special kernels besides hardware support. Note 1 got a few leaks from samsung and got many other features of Note 2 going like airview, multi-windows, ink effect
xperiacle and nanomet have ported features from the tab to make certain features to work on Note 1 like floating multiwindows that can be minimised, multitasking
my knowledge is surface knowledge. without sammy support in the form of leaks it wouldnt have been possible for Note. otherwise Cyanogen would also give these features even though they are releasing 421 now.
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is it possible to hv multiscreen?
just want it so badly....
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You guys don;t read things we post here ... ... anyway once again, YES its possible using the Samsung JB ROM for our device.
Galaxy S II is already getting ports of multiwindow to their JB Stock Rom.
Jellybean firmware CLK7 is already out since november.
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Jellybean firmware CLK7 is already out since november.
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yep you are right, that post was supposed to go in the Samsung tab 7 Plus thread.
But anyway, yes its possible using the same methods the SII uses.
yes, but there are a lot of developers in the S2 threads, I just hope there is at least a developer having the samsung galaxy tab 2 that will know how to do it and then share it with the rest of us
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yep you are right, that post was supposed to go in the Samsung tab 7 Plus thread.
But anyway, yes its possible using the same methods the SII uses.
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Hi everybody. I've already checked the various threads but the answers don't satisfied me. I want the Samsung Galaxy s Advance and I've the chance to buy it for 250 euros. The device is perfect for what I have to do (the only drawback is the RAM, because I wanted it to be 1 gb). Anyway, my question is: is it good to buy it now? I fear that it will not be upgraded anymore. I've another question: should I wait for new devices coming at the MWC? Any release date? My budget is limited to 250 euros.
Thanks in... advance
Sorry for my bad English
Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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thanks. I think I'll get the Advance. So I hope xda developers will continue rocking on this device!
I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
Don't buy it if you expect development.
It's a solid performer but nothing more. I came here from a ****ty, low-end htc device that had more development done in a month than SGSA since it had it's own subforum on xda.
So for the time being you can choose from:
1. JB update X or JB update Y - both provided by our hefty russian branch :>
2. two custom kernels which do have some bugs and glitches (but hey, nothing's perfect right?)
Device was released nearly a year ago. Do the math.
The only reason i would recommend you to avoid samsung smartphones is problem with keeping dialer and sms applications locked in RAM. So far i have not seen the device (from ancient devices like spica or i5500 to s3) that manage this properly without custom rom (@official samsung software dev's wtf?). So i would probably go for LG/Sony
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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nlygamz said:
android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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One thing is "may run" and another is "Samsung will give it to us".
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@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
nlygamz said:
@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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I don't we will get 5.0 update.. maybe S2 may not also get it.. S2 and our phone may get 4.2 update and that would be it!
But I'm just guessing.. the rest depends on Google and Samsung
discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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HTC is way worse than Samsung......
P.S. I was an X-HTC user
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It doesn't really matter what updates will samsung release, that I've learned while owning an original Galaxy S. The last fw officially relased to it was GB 2.3.6. Right now it rocks Jelly Bean 4.2 stable. (yes, of course CyanogenMod ^^)
It's quiet an old device, but still, the dev support is amazing! And do you know why it's possible? Firstly, sales. More than 10 million sold. More popular device means more devs, usually. Secondly, it's hardware is identical to Google's Nexus S which received an official Jelly Bean and that means source codes released in timely manner to work with!
As for the S Advance, the only problem is popularity. It was an awful mistake to release it with gingerbread instead of already long available ICS. This repels users, who are interested in tinkering with their phone. This means only those few people (and to whom I thank their efforts) are here and capable to do anything with development for our device. Honestly, the list of roms and kernels are short.
On the other hand the chipset is quiet popular and I'm sure other handsets with the same chipset will help somewhat to keep this device up to date for as long as possible.
Cheers!
Hi everybody!
I am a fully satisfied Galaxy Wonder I8150 user, however - since I found an offer for the Galaxy S Advance I9070 for about 200€ - I am thinking about changing my phone.
What would you suggest?
Are you happy with the I9070?
I am a bit worried that you do not have many ROMs available - while I8150 has plenty of them and good developers, just to name one, arco! - and it seems to me that the I8150 is not very widespread...
Opinions and discussions are more than welcome, tx.
The number 1 advantage in s advance is good value for money and good specs for that price. If specs are your only concern try s3mini . It may be costlier but has more ram. As regards s advance, now after Jb update development has picked up and we do have at 3 least good custom ROMs and other mods. CM10 official may come soon and there will be more ROMs based on it.
But if you are buying a phone now look for something newer as Samsung mostly won't release next android update for advance
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... And take care with the P version...
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@ Sadvance: I surely agree with the fact that I9070 seems to be good value for money.
I would go for S3 mini (although I prefer the design of I9070 actually!) but paying 100€ more for having 1GB Ram instead of 768MB is not justifiable imho.
Are there other significant differences between S3 mini and I9070 (I cannot find any other)?
@R_a_z_v_a_n: what do you mean?
Should I look for the P version since it also has NFC reader?
Or should I look for the normal (i.e. NOT P version) because it seems to be more widespread?
Tx a lot.
Hi there,
after extending my Vodafone subscription for another 2 years they sent me a SGS3 I9305... Over the last years i was using SGS and SGS II with CM... After googling half a day and reading the other half of the day i got stuck - not knowing what do know with the I9305 because I am addicted to Cyanogenmod since I first bought the SGS... With the SGS II it became even better and now I don´t know if I should laugh or cry holding a flagship smartphone in my hands which is not ( officialy ) supported by the Firmware / Rom I love. This Forum looks like the place to ask a few of my questions related to the future of my I9305, Cyanogenmod and a few other things... so here we go:
-Why is the cyanogenmod team not developing for the I9305?
-Will they take over the work that is put into the "userbuilt" Version and add official support for the I9305?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay something like a "sidekick" or can we expect nightlies / fixes on a regular basis?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay on top of new releases / versions of Android?
-Does Codeworkx now "officially" support the "userbuilt" Version or was he just "snooping around" and giving some advice?
-Is the I9305 already "born dead" and should I sell it and wait for another Samsung device that´ll be supported again?
I really don´t know what to do... The Vodafone ( Germany ) Stock Rom is pain in the a** and flashing other "experimentals Roms" is no good for me either. I love and admire what the Cyanogenmod developers are doing and how much "brain matter" and energy they put into their project, but from my ( quite selfish ) point of view it feels wrong to give up on the users which were given a f****n I9305 by their Mobile-Providers and not the I9300...
Please enlighten me and if there is hope to use the I9305 like it was possible with SGS and SGS II in combination with CM please give me a hint how to achieve that. I´d really appreciate some CYANO-LOVE for my "not so smart" smartphone...
Many thanks in advance and greetings from good old germany - Clever&Smart
I think the closest thing you're going to get is liquids rom which is very close to cyanogen if not better. At the moment it's not stable enough for me but I'm sure after a few updates it will be worth using.
For now I've customised ripper rom to get the pure look. And it works flawlessly. And let's face it you can't beat having a Sammy base so that the camera works as it was intended to!
But be patient things change pretty quick on here and maybe codeworks will change his mind
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Amplified (the maintainer of Liquid Smooth I9305) has a say in official I9305 CM support but I don't know why you wouldn't just go for Liquid Smooth, we have a dedicated Dev that happily takes logcats, fixes problems, will be pushing out updates and most of all we know he will be sticking around unlike Codeworkx. Yes he has done SOO much but unfortunately he doesn't have our device and refuses to support Samsung for good reasons too so he can only do so much. Do as much as you can to help around and if we all do our bit we will see a flourishing I9305 forum.
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Amplified (the maintainer of Liquid Smooth I9305) has a say in official I9305 CM support but I don't know why you wouldn't just go for Liquid Smooth, we have a dedicated Dev that happily takes logcats, fixes problems, will be pushing out updates and most of all we know he will be sticking around unlike Codeworkx. Yes he has done SOO much but unfortunately he doesn't have our device and refuses to support Samsung for good reasons too so he can only do so much. Do as much as you can to help around and if we all do our bit we will see a flourishing I9305 forum.
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Am I understanding your answer right? Is the Liquid Smooth ROM a ROM from the CyanogenMod Development Tree ?
Its they're own based of some from cm and aosp
It's pretty close though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38033836
I too was sadden by the lack developmental roms on here but I love this device so oh well
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Here you go mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38243046
[ROM][GT-I9305][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 unofficial builds
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Here you go mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38243046
[ROM][GT-I9305][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 unofficial builds
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That is still the exact same CM, now you just dont have to screen through 46 pages to know what is going on
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That is still the exact same CM, now you just dont have to screen through 46 pages to know what is going on
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But - correct me if I am wrong - I think it´s still "not maintained" and codeworkx is flaming everybody who is not a development pro because he is mad... and under these circumstances it doesn´t seem to be very wise to install it right now - right ?
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But - correct me if I am wrong - I think it´s still "not maintained" and codeworkx is flaming everybody who is not a development pro because he is mad... and under these circumstances it doesn´t seem to be very wise to install it right now - right ?
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You have 2 options.
1. Install it and try it.. It's not maintained yet and it's Unofficial build as Codeworkx don't own an i9305.....
2. Wait until CM project have full support for i9305..... You can wait forever. ....
It's completely up to you mate
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cleverandsmart said:
-Why is the cyanogenmod team not developing for the I9305?
-Will they take over the work that is put into the "userbuilt" Version and add official support for the I9305?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay something like a "sidekick" or can we expect nightlies / fixes on a regular basis?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay on top of new releases / versions of Android?
-Does Codeworkx now "officially" support the "userbuilt" Version or was he just "snooping around" and giving some advice?
-Is the I9305 already "born dead" and should I sell it and wait for another Samsung device that´ll be supported again?
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To answer your questions in order,
We don't have an official maintainer because
i: hardly anyone owns this device;
ii: of the few people who do own this device, most are not able to maintain it, and none have previously maintained devices for CM;
iii: codeworkx is not willing to maintain it because, in very short, Samsung are very nearly the worst OEM when it comes to supporting third-party development; besides which, he doesn't own the device, which makes it very difficult for him to work on the port.
If a maintainer appears, we'll get official nightlies. I wouldn't hold your breath.
As above, if a maintainer appears, he or she will likely take over the existing device tree and the unofficial version will just become irrelevant.
If someone makes new builds, yes. There are a few of us who can do that until something major breaks, since builds really only require time rather than knowledge.
Codeworkx does not, and has never, supported this device or offered to maintain it. He just took pity on us because no-one here has enough porting experience to do it properly otherwise. That said, he has fixed a lot of bugs, and at this point in time the build is pretty much comparable in stability to the t0lte builds.
Since you care about AOSP ROMs - sell it, get a Nexus 4. If for some reason you don't want that, just don't get a Samsung device - seriously. Almost any manufacturer save HTC would be better; Sony in particular seem to be flavour of the month. Samsung are really, really bad in this one regard (i.e., releasing proper sources). There's still a lot that's not yet released, and what's there took far too long to get.
With regard to the LiquidSmooth ROM, it's hard to judge exactly what Amplified can do. He hasn't updated the LiquidSmooth device tree except with the changes codeworkx has made. He also implied a while back that C/C++ aren't his preferred languages, in which case I would expect hardware support to improve slowly at best. I don't mean any of that as criticism of Amplified, of course, I just don't want to tell you that all will be well without knowing beyond doubt whether Amplified can fix driver issues down the line.
Having said that, the unofficial CM build really is entirely usable, and I expect LiquidSmooth is much the same. I daresay the former will be kept up-to-date by the community until Android 5 appears, at which point porting will probably require a skilled developer again. The progress of the latter is up to Amplified.
Hi guys
I'm currently a owner if an S3 and slightly peed off with the lack of sources, battery life on AOSP and etc.... So is it worth swapping my non dev friendly S3 for the dev friendly Xperia Z?
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elspanish88 said:
Hi guys
I'm currently a owner if an S3 and slightly peed off with the lack of sources, battery life on AOSP and etc.... So is it worth swapping my non dev friendly S3 for the dev friendly Xperia Z?
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Just went from S3 LTE to an Xperia Z and couldn't be happier!
WHAT....... are you crazy. S3 has some of the best development. I don't know what ur talking bout. And if u like the xperia try jovy23's xtremeperia ROM. Its flawless and is as close to xperia as u can get on an S3. Also good on battery.
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Its the i9300 just to be clear... To be fair there is a lot if development but I've tried all the ROMs on the s3 stock and AOSP and stock is well terrible and AOSP isn't great for battery life and still has other issues due to Samsung being tight with their sources
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Cant speak for international S3 but from US S3 to XZ is not a big upgrade if any...
See this is the thing the US S3 is better (development wise) than the international.
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elspanish88 said:
See this is the thing the US S3 is better (development wise) than the international.
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if you looking for developement the XZ is not the place to go...there is like 5 stock rom, 1 kernel, and 5-6 AOSP, AOKP CM10.1 rom...
Get the Xperia Z!
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Upgraded from an S3 to the XZ, only because I managed to drop the S3 and cracked its front glass.
Otherwise, I'd still be happy to stay with the S3.
User experience wise, it's not much different with the XZ, the S3 was fast and quick as well. The increased ppi, you can tell if you look for it..but in reality, it doesn't affect your overall experience very much at all.
The Xperia Z is supposed to be getting stock Android and will be sold in the Google Play Store. That I presume will lead to better development of this phone. :good:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-sony-xperia-z-coming-soon
zac68 said:
The Xperia Z is supposed to be getting stock Android and will be sold in the Google Play Store. That I presume will lead to better development of this phone. :good:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-sony-xperia-z-coming-soon
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anyone pay for that will be a fool, i'm sure sony will charge ridiculous price for it...the Dev can copy the system and post it on here.
That's pretty much what I meant. Our phone will benefit from this...if it happens.
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if you looking for developement the XZ is not the place to go...there is like 5 stock rom, 1 kernel, and 5-6 AOSP, AOKP CM10.1 rom...
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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Agree with you. Owner of a exynos s3 and the major problem is they lie to costumers telling that s3 will be upgraded and are delaying this not to damage s4 sales. S3 is a unfinished phone. Samsung never get this beast to fully working. Lags overall do bad memory management. Even s2 sometimes works better. And if you have the chanxe buy instead a n4.
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I'd love the N4 and I completely understand why the S3 sucks due to sources not being released properly, I've already spoke to codeworx and his answer was "every Sony runs AOSP better"
So I'm going for it!! Good bye S3 and hello XZ
Thanks for your input guys!
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elspanish88 said:
I'd love the N4 and I completely understand why the S3 sucks due to sources not being released properly, I've already spoke to codeworx and his answer was "every Sony runs AOSP better"
So I'm going for it!! Good bye S3 and hello XZ
Thanks for your input guys!
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No worries mate, and welcome to the family! :good:
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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Well, we were specifically discussing the international version so I don't really see how a comparison to the US version (which is a completely different device) is useful.
Also K850i was a SonyEricsson device! (very important because Ericsson <3)
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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US galaxy s3 is dual core. It never get further oficial 4.2.2. And its slower then exynos.
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testadeferro said:
US galaxy s3 is dual core. It never get further oficial 4.2.2. And its slower then exynos.
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Krait dual-core, big difference. And yes, it is roughly on par with Exynos S3.