Looks like we will be skipping the soak and going straight to General Availability (GA) status:
UPDATE - Friday, April 12: The DROID BIONIC by Motorola will soon be upgraded to Android 4.1, Jelly Bean. The software upgrade will be pushed to customers in phases starting April 15.
Source link in post 68: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40223168&postcount=68
" Thanks for joining the Motorola Feedback Network. We are inviting owners of the Droid Bionic on Verizon to participate in an early preview of the new Jelly Bean software release, and provide feedback. If you are not currently using a Droid Bionic, please excuse and ignore this email.
The registration window for this soak could be extremely small -- sorry about that. Please act now to take part."
-- Sent from my DROID BIONIC on the KEXEC() enabled latest Linux kernel compiled for Key Lime Pie, with backwards compatibility.
Really? It's not still April 1st is it?
It is true. See Droid Life. Can't wait for some JB goodness.
Drunkula said:
Really? It's not still April 1st is it?
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Lol. I wouldn't do that to the bionic community. We've been through enough lol
-- Sent from my DROID BIONIC on the KEXEC() enabled latest Linux kernel compiled for Key Lime Pie, with backwards compatibility.
Well now that I believe, I've already backed up and FXZ'd back to stock - in case I also get the invite.:good:
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Always cracks me up, though, because the invites always say "keep it confidential" - but people still talk about it!
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Well now that I believe, I've already backed up and FXZ'd back to stock - in case I also get the invite.:good:
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Always cracks me up, though, because the invites always say "keep it confidential" - but people still talk about it!
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Like they can stop us!
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Groid said:
It is true. See Droid Life. Can't wait for some JB goodness.
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And you know if you read it on the internet it's true. I've read it on three sites now. Woohoo!
Let's see if we can keep this thread helpful. Does anyone have a current howto on going back to stock?
ETA: In other words, can I just rsdlite back to .246 like we used to? I've heard a lot of folks recommending against using rsdlite. Never quite understood why.
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Let's see if we can keep this thread helpful. Does anyone have a current howto on going back to stock?
ETA: In other words, can I just rsdlite back to .246 like we used to? I've heard a lot of folks recommending against using rsdlite. Never quite understood why.
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You can fxz to GB update to official ICS from there.
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mikemikemikexxx said:
You can fxz to GB update to official ICS from there.
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What? No, this is horrible advice. Use 246 fxz if you'd like to revert to stock without bricking
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rocketsaucev2 said:
What? No, this is horrible advice. Use 246 fxz if you'd like to revert to stock without bricking
Liquid Smooth Bionic
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Yeah, I know you cannot downgrade back to GB. I hope nobody else will try that; it will be a rude awakening.
I will fxz back tonight. I can't wait for the soak!
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What? No, this is horrible advice. Use 246 fxz if you'd like to revert to stock without bricking
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Meant to say go back to GB or fxz ICS before joining soak test.
Don't see much point either way since your rooted. Custom Roms will always be a better choice. Don't see that changing with official JB. They should have just went straight to KLM than ceased development for our phone. Now it will die with JB.
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Either way, gb is history for the bionic. No going back. I believe we'll see some klp action with kexec
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Newb-ish question
So, i had the stock ICS (work phone, so no "major modding"), but I rooted it. I uninstalled some VZ junk, and ran some apps which required root -- specifically titanium backup -- I've backed up my apps from ICS
To get the JB soak test, do I need to simply unroot? Or do I need to restore to factory?
I "unrooted" using the option in SuperSU. Now, after reboot, my phone shows that it is no longer rooted (checked with one of the rootchecker apps).
Do I qualify for the JB soak when it's pushed? Or since I removed the VZ crapware, is the update for my phone not going to work?
If i need to revert to factory, I'm assuming from reading the sticky, that I need to "use the ics fxz method". I don't see instructions on that, just a thread with links to downloads... Do I download that to an SD, and then boot into recovery, to install it? Or am i missing something...
Sorry for the probably-too-basic-for-most-of-you questions...
You will need to fxz back, or restore every Vz app you removed, and unroot. The update is probably still going to fail for you. It is very particular about system files and Checks all of them before updating them. Try it, but just be aware you may have to fxz after all.
You can always reroot and restore TiB data after JB is done flashing. That's what my plan is.
You will need USB drivers, rsdlite, and the 246 fxz file. Read a generic fxz how to and you will see how it works.
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Let me rephrase. If you uninstalled the Vz crap using the normal app management interface, which you can do for some of them, you should be in the clear. You can also 'disable' apps in ICS. If you did that you should be ok as well. It's only if you used 'advanced' methods like TiB's freezing or simply uninstalling apk's from the /system partition you will fail the update.
I just finished fxz'ing back to 246. All I did was re-root it, and restore TiB application data. None of this should prevent me from accepting the OTA soak update. I'll keep you posted!
I think folks have the wrong idea of what a soak is. Your phone will get an over the air update when it's ready; a soak is not for the masses, you have to sign up for them. You don't go back to stock to get a soak.
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mikemikemikexxx said:
You can fxz to GB update to official ICS from there.
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I second the person who said don't do this.
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smokedkill said:
I second the person who said don't do this.
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Guess you have SRS (Selective Reading Syndrome). I posted right after with what I meant to say.
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rocketsaucev2 said:
I think folks have the wrong idea of what a soak is. Your phone will get an over the air update when it's ready; a soak is not for the masses, you have to sign up for them. You don't go back to stock to get a soak.
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I'm not sure you understand what a SOAK is....
You have to be almost 100% stock for a SOAK push out to install...just like you do for an OTA. A SOAK push out is the exact same file they will push out to everyone as the OTA if the SOAK goes well. Typically with Motorola, all most every SOAK has been "approved" as successful and pushed out as the OTA. If for some reason this SOAK is not approved....another SOAK goes out and if approved becomes the OTA. In that case they have to create two....one for phones still on the current official OS and one for phones that are on the earlier SOAK OS.
If you've made changes to your phone, from as simple as deleting bloatware from /system/app or installing safestrap, the SOAK install will fail. It's not a ROM being pushed/installed, it's a patch to the current ROM being pushed/installed. If you current ROM doesn't match what the SOAK is trying to patch it fails.
Things that usually don't affect OTA (or SOAK) installs are root and frozen apps/bloatware, the install will succeed and all your frozen apps will be unfrozen and root will be removed.
Things that always affect the OTA (SOAK) installs are alternate recoveries (Safestrap Recovery), deleted/renamed /system/app apks (removing bloatware, replacing system apps with other apps, merging app updates into /system/app and such....
If you've modified your phone, installed safestrap, etc.....going back to stock (via FXZ) is the BEST option to take if you want the SOAK and/or the OTA to install.
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I am running 5.8.894 and .. as far as I can tell, I am the only one. I have seen 5.7.894, and 7.893 .. but I am 5.8.894.
I have two questions.
1) What is the .8? Is it kernel?
2) Am I one of the first, or are my searching skills just way off.
A couple observations as well. I did a full stock restore, applied the 4EVER Root, did a cheesecake to the staging servers of the big M, applied it and I still have root.
Camera is WAAAAAYYYYY Faster too. Hopefully it fixes the radios issues as well and the application vanishing.
So you went out and grabbed this OTA version?
Sounds like it might be the "official" Moto soak test OTA. That is allegedly (It IS Moto after all) about to or already circulating to testers.
How is it running? Impact on battery usage?
Thanks,
RMD
I just installed so I don't really have anything to say about it yet.
So you're saying this is the "official" OTA that I picked up?
I'm guessing that it MAY BE THE OFFICIAL OTA. No way of knowing for certain yet.
Since you grabbed it off an "M" server, that would be my guess.
I haven't yet seen any reports of folks involved in the soak test reporting what version the OTA results in on their handsets.
Keep us posted.
Thanks,
RMD
blocatan said:
I am running 5.8.894 and .. as far as I can tell, I am the only one. I have seen 5.7.894, and 7.893 .. but I am 5.8.894.
I have two questions.
1) What is the .8? Is it kernel?
2) Am I one of the first, or are my searching skills just way off.
A couple observations as well. I did a full stock restore, applied the 4EVER Root, did a cheesecake to the staging servers of the big M, applied it and I still have root.
Camera is WAAAAAYYYYY Faster too. Hopefully it fixes the radios issues as well and the application vanishing.
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was this update pushed to your phone or did you manually download it from somewhere and install it yourself?
I think he snagged it using cheesecake off a server at Moto.
RMD
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I think he snagged it using cheesecake off a server at Moto.
RMD
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Thats a big 10-FOR
yeah my bad, sorry for not reading your original post more carefully
I think it's interesting that this update doesn't block perma root when the first .894 update did. Does this mean Motorola is taking steps in the right direction or is it something as simple as they forgot to put it in this version? Who knows, I'm hoping it's the former though.
I was thinking the very same thing? Moto grows a heart? Or maybe a brain?
RMD
which server from cheesecake?
im going crazy trying to look for it :/
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which server from cheesecake?
im going crazy trying to look for it :/
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master-sdc100.blurdev.com under Staging is where I picked it up.
Did you update from stock or from 5.7.893? I'm checking the servers via cheesecake and I cant seem to find it (im on 5.7.893).
P3 has tweeted not to take it that it patches root.
Keep us posted if u have data issues!
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were u using wifi or on data?
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So i got tired of waiting for a response so I decided to follow the OPs instructions....I wiped my system back to 886, rooted/forever rooted and launched cheesecake. I saw 5.8.894 on master-sdc100.blurdev.com and attempted to apply the update.
I got an error that the update failed to go through.
yea i had the same problem trying to update with the forever root im currently running 5.5.893
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Haven't seen the update in cheesecake app. Would like to know if anything is different
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So i tried to go back to stock without root and apply the update and it still fails on the validation. I guess this means we are off the upgrade path till a leaked fxz appears.
edit: to find the update you need to have a stock system image, for it to install it looks like you need to be 100% stock (bootloader/kernel/radios as well as system).
I posted these questions earlier in the Q+A section and figure this is a better place for them.....
So I've got my 4th Bionic en route due to pesky data connection issues and no GPS. I'm wondering if I should flash the .232 ICS build. A couple questions arise if I may:
- Is it easily rootable? Running .905 stock root presently on my old Bionic. New one I'm sure will have .905 obviously stock and unmessed with.
- Does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of pertinent apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
- Should I root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And the root of the external (not sdcard, sdcard-ext) SD I'm assuming is where I place the leaked ICS file?
I love these forums as they minimize the knowledge gap between people like me and experts!
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I posted these questions earlier in the Q+A section and figure this is a better place for them.....
So I've got my 4th Bionic en route due to pesky data connection issues and no GPS. I'm wondering if I should flash the .232 ICS build. A couple questions arise if I may:
- Is it easily rootable? Running .905 stock root presently on my old Bionic. New one I'm sure will have .905 obviously stock and unmessed with.
- Does installing a leaked version make it any more difficult to install the official version at its release? I'm thinking it would be a good opportunity to work bugs out of pertinent apps and familiarize myself with the new version.
- Should I root the .905 before flashing the ICS? Does that matter? I'm thinking it'd be lost anyways on the flash up. And the root of the external (not sdcard, sdcard-ext) SD I'm assuming is where I place the leaked ICS file?
I love these forums as they minimize the knowledge gap between people like me and experts!
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From everything I hear, .232 should fix your data connection. It is quite easy to update to it, you just have to put the proper update file onto your external sd card and boot into stock recovery and install it. It is also very easy to root, assuming you have access to a computer running windows. The utility to root it is called razrs_edge and is easy enough to find and download. You will lose root on the upgrade, so it's probably just as easy to wait until after the update to root it. There is also a utility available which will let you downgrade to .905 and apply the new update without losing your data when the time comes for the official update. That can be found here http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-droid-bionic/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html Actually, that utility can probably used to upgrade and root the phone even if you're starting on .905. Also, .232 is probably your best bet right now, as .235 is built so you can't go back to anything before it properly.
Good luck!
What about the update to the official release? Would I just be able to OTA to that, providing I defrost any bloat apps Verizon so kindly includes?
And one more quick one. Can I do that flash to .232 right now on my stock, partially frozen and rooted .905 rom without losing any apps or data? Sounds way too good to be true to me!
Thanks for your time too, dude. Totally got it!
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What about the update to the official release? Would I just be able to OTA to that, providing I defrost any bloat apps Verizon so kindly includes?
Thanks for your time too, dude. Totally got it!
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You can't directly update to the OTA, but that's what the utility which I linked in my previous reply is for. It will let you temporarily downgrade to .905 and allow you to apply the OTA. The person who maintains it does a really good job and keeps it up to date with all the new files when they're released.
You're the man dude thanks!
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You're the man dude thanks!
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If you've got an account on droidforums, make sure to thank Samuri_HL, he's the one who makes things so easy to use.
OK so I've one more question. If I wanted to install it now on my bionic with the stock rooted .905, can I just download the ICS update and install while preserving apps+data?
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OK so I've one more question. If I wanted to install it now on my bionic with the stock rooted .905, can I just download the ICS update and install while preserving apps+data?
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As long as you're stock, the upgrade should work fine and shouldn't affect your apps+data. You will lose root (I believe) and need to re-root afterwards though.
One more question.....
OK, so I've managed to get .232 up and running. I haven't rooted it, and truly don't see the point at least at this point because I can just disable the VZ apps that I don't need (namely, all of them.) So, now that I'm on this build, let's say they release the final version tomorrow...what is going to need to happen to update to the final version? I've truly scoured through all of these forums and can't quite figure it out. Will it just be as simple as the .232 flash? I mean is it worth going to .235 on my en route Bionic and loading all of my apps and investing the hours required in getting it perfect? Or will it all just be one waste of time? I know that the final release will be an OTA, so I'm assuming that .905 will need to be in the mix at some point hence the confusion....
Kudos to all who care to help thee noobs around here!!!
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OK, so I've managed to get .232 up and running. I haven't rooted it, and truly don't see the point at least at this point because I can just disable the VZ apps that I don't need (namely, all of them.) So, now that I'm on this build, let's say they release the final version tomorrow...what is going to need to happen to update to the final version? I've truly scoured through all of these forums and can't quite figure it out. Will it just be as simple as the .232 flash? I mean is it worth going to .235 on my en route Bionic and loading all of my apps and investing the hours required in getting it perfect? Or will it all just be one waste of time? I know that the final release will be an OTA, so I'm assuming that .905 will need to be in the mix at some point hence the confusion....
Kudos to all who care to help thee noobs around here!!!
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You will need to flash the .905 fxz file in order to receive the OTA. There are a couple ways of doing that. The most failsafe way would be to do it using RSD Lite, however that will wipe all of your data and basically return your phone to a like-new state. The other main way is to use SamuriHL's House of Bionic program/script. It uses a modified version of the fxz file that will not wipe your data. You can use it to return to .905 and install the OTA in the normal way, by checking for updates and letting it install once it is available. You can also use it if you download the OTA when it is released and basically do it the same way you updated to .232. When the OTA is released, I'm sure he'll put together a new version of HoB that includes it, so that the whole process is fairly well automated. There's no saying when exactly the OTA will be ready, but for now just enjoy your ice cream sandwich.
When I mention that it will not wipe your data, that means that all of your apps and whatnot will remain intact. In any case, I don't recommend updating to .235, I have it and can't tell much difference between that and the .232 leak, and the .232 leak has a safe route back to stock, whereas .235 doesn't, so it's definitely not worth the risk. If you're happy with it without rooting, then by all means keep it that way, rooting means it's just easier to mess things up.
now that the newest ICS leak that looks so close to OTA has JB upgrade support, will we be able to use cheesecake to find JB leaks?
that sounds likely to me..
With that we could have a new kernel to work with... (probably 3.0.31) and bootloader unlock research can continue.
Im wondering if Moto ever actually worked on a unlocked bootloader for bionic and an early build will still have it for development reasons.
Of course, I cant be sure that 247 will be the OTA, or if the build they go with for updates to JB will come later.
It sill might be a good idea to check the servers anyways, for those who are on 247 already.
Cheesecake no longer works on ics. They implemented new security that breaks it.
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Cheesecake no longer works on ics. They implemented new security that breaks it.
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Let me guess.. since .235
I guess this thread is worthless. How will we get our leaks now?
No, the security on the cdt.bin partition doesn't relate to the update framework security. Nonetheless, there are people that are keeping 905 phones so they can continue to cheesecake for us.
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No, the security on the cdt.bin partition doesn't relate to the update framework security. Nonetheless, there are people that are keeping 905 phones so they can continue to cheesecake for us.
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I might go between .232 and .905 in case I really want to use ICS, but I actually just got a bionic for this task. Although, I have only been able to download .246 once... Is it just me or have the servers been empty for bionic over the last few days?
247 is on qa1 still I believe. I can't remember. I have someone that checks every couple days. He got us 244, 246, and 247.
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No, the security on the cdt.bin partition doesn't relate to the update framework security. Nonetheless, there are people that are keeping 905 phones so they can continue to cheesecake for us.
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So cheesecake for jelly bean might be viable after all?
I hope youre still around when moto decides to lock us out from fxz back to ICS, I love your House of Bionic. <3
Cheesecake is viable for any bionic that remains on 905. And I know one or two that will be cause they bought them specifically for cheesecake. Remember it can be used to check for updates for more than just the Bionic. It can be used to check for any moto phone/version if you know what you're doing. It's rumored than an engineering 6.8.248 build (that would install on top of 247) is already being worked on. It won't install on a retail phone, but, it's a sign that JB is already being worked on even before ICS goes OTA.
I got my bionic this week, and it had ICS .2231 (I believe that was the right number, I could be wrong though) and I was able to successfully fastboot .905 back to it.
If I want to go between ICS and GB, is this possible on the bionic?
What versions of ICS support downgrading? Has anybody tried to downgrade from .247 back to .905?
Thanks
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I got my bionic this week, and it had ICS .2231 (I believe that was the right number, I could be wrong though) and I was able to successfully fastboot .905 back to it.
If I want to go between ICS and GB, is this possible on the bionic?
What versions of ICS support downgrading? Has anybody tried to downgrade from .247 back to .905?
Thanks
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You can go back to GB from .232 or below. If you install .235 or higher, then you're stuck. .223X is considered below .232, they just changed the numbering system. I believe anyone who has tried downgrading from .235+ has bricked their phone.
Also, didn't you previously post a lot over on the D3 forum?
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You can go back to GB from .232 or below. If you install .235 or higher, then you're stuck. .223X is considered below .232, they just changed the numbering system. I believe anyone who has tried downgrading from .235+ has bricked their phone.
Also, didn't you previously post a lot over on the D3 forum?
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Yup, I used to be in the D3 forum, but I got a D4 and have been frequenting that and the RAZR forums now
Thanks for the heads up, I'll grab a copy of .232 just in case I ever want to run ICS on it.
Is there a download I can find somewhere for it? Also, have people been posting boot.img files for leaks that have been coming out? That's something I can help with.
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Yup, I used to be in the D3 forum, but I got a D4 and have been frequenting that and the RAZR forums now
Thanks for the heads up, I'll grab a copy of .232 just in case I ever want to run ICS on it.
Is there a download I can find somewhere for it? Also, have people been posting boot.img files for leaks that have been coming out? That's something I can help with.
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Here's something you might want to take a look at. Droid Forums seems to be where most of the action for the Bionic is these days, and a guy called SamuriHL has put together a pretty neat little program for moving around with the various ICS leaks and whatnot. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-bionic-hacks/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html
SamuriHL really saved the day with his House of Bionic to restore my bricked bionic to fully functional ics.
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i remember a thread a while back that contained links to FXZ's for every possible situation and i THINK it was obsidians but sadly that thread is completely useless now because he deleted the first 2 posts in it's thread :/ but i could be wrong about the thread i'm thinking of. Anyone still have have that FXZ or a link to it for bionic's on leak 223? ;w; i'd very much like to finally get off of the leak and back onto the OTA upgrade path so when they release official kitkat for the bionic i won't totally be left in the dust.......
Sadly we will never see an official ota KitKat release. But if you do want the latest JB release you could just use that FXZ instead of taking the OTA. Faster and cleaner.
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Sadly we will never see an official ota KitKat release. But if you do want the latest JB release you could just use that FXZ instead of taking the OTA. Faster and cleaner.
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so the 223 leak is better than what we got with the OTA JB? ;w; i just looked up kitkat for bionic and yeah....compatibility issues.....why us ;w;.....i can't wait to get my upgrade now more than ever.....Moto X here i come!
I actually like JB or just must have gotten used to it. If you don't use any of the motoblur apps or you webdock, cm11 which is kk based actually runs very smooth for myself
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If you want to get your bionic on stock JB 4.1.2, I would suggest using SamuriHL's House of Moto to FXZ. You can find it here.
I've been running cm 11 since it came out. It is really nice, but then again, I've grown accustomed to cm roms on my devices.