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[I'm posting this in this forum to see what you Android guys think about my issues.]
With the current issues with Chevron and unlocking I am making the decision to trade my omnia for a Galaxy S, the phones are pretty much exactly the same hardware wise. The only thing I don't like about the Galaxy is the shape, I prefer the sqaureness of the Omnia.
Now for my Omnia:
No proper 3rd party communication possibilities(sockets), I use Skype a lot and i've tried alternatives but none of them work well when the phone goes on standby. Microsoft are so controlling with the standby mode that apps are basicly useless when the phone is on standby. Toast notifications are all controlled by MS so if they have issues with their system or a bottleneck I don't get informed that someone has sent me an IM. Which brings me on to another issue.
Microsoft platform.
Microsoft service.
Why the hell is there no Windows Live Messenger support? The fact that a company as big as Microsoft can put out a OS like WP7 and NOT include apps for their own damn product is just stupid. No one knows why they didn't and Microsoft will not give an official reason as to why.
You may say these are all software issues, that they are. Wait for the updates you say...I highly doubt an update that allows apps to use 3rd party protocols will be out for at least 6 months. I thought this februrary update was hopefully going to open up more things on the developer front but all that has been mentioned is Copy & Paste and better performance.
I shouldn't have to wait months and months for updates that allow me to use my phone the way consumers have got used to using them before WP7 was even realeased.
I stuck with Microsoft and had a lot of faith in them and even went as far as to spread the word, but this unlocking issue was the final nail in the coffin. What do you guys think I should do?
WP7 is a good platform, but it's not ready yet for geek users... Android is freedom of choice, for people that enjoy cool featires an tweaking their phone.
I think you should wait for the galaxy s2, though.
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I agree , you should wait for the galaxy s 2
full on support for MSN messenger with voice and video calling support would be a great selling feature for the phone but i think the phone company's have a part to play in that too. With instant messaging and free video calling who'd need call time.
Ok, I've been on Android since the early G1 days. Next had a my touch slide and now the my touch 4g. I have been thinking about getting an iPhone 4s because I have all Macs in the house and an iPad. They just work. The iPhone sounds good because of the interaction between it and my network. Streaming, etc...
I like Android os and was thinking about the galaxy s2 or maybe the upcoming necks prime. The thing that bothers me with android is a lot of fragmentation. I know the prime would be the best because it would be upgraded earlier than everything else, plus ICS coming with it. But the allure of the phone working well will my network sounds good. Plus, face it, androids music apps aren't that great. But I just can't decide. Anyone have any real time with either. No fan boys, let's have an honest comparison. Thanks
Tbh, if you aren't a major customized android just falls short. I use my phone for games, music, movies, and interaction. For that I chose wp7, I likely would have gone iOS if not for the tiny screen and ugly UI but if you use apple products for your other devices then I see no reason not to go the iPhone route and the 4s is going to be sweet once they release that infinity blade sequel.
gillaney said:
Ok, I've been on Android since the early G1 days. Next had a my touch slide and now the my touch 4g. I have been thinking about getting an iPhone 4s because I have all Macs in the house and an iPad. They just work. The iPhone sounds good because of the interaction between it and my network. Streaming, etc...
I like Android os and was thinking about the galaxy s2 or maybe the upcoming necks prime. The thing that bothers me with android is a lot of fragmentation. I know the prime would be the best because it would be upgraded earlier than everything else, plus ICS coming with it. But the allure of the phone working well will my network sounds good. Plus, face it, androids music apps aren't that great. But I just can't decide. Anyone have any real time with either. No fan boys, let's have an honest comparison. Thanks
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I just have to ask, what doesn't work on your android device?
As for iOS or Macs, lion upgrade was a mess and my experience with the ipad hasn't been that stellar. Lot of apps just do not work or closes without an error message and this includes the stock browser. I've actually avoided ton of apps purely because of numerous complaints about latest apps not running properly (ie EA games, half dozen document viewers, etc)
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Tbh, if you aren't a major customized android just falls short. I use my phone for games, music, movies, and interaction. For that I chose wp7, I likely would have gone iOS if not for the tiny screen and ugly UI but if you use apple products for your other devices then I see no reason not to go the iPhone route and the 4s is going to be sweet once they release that infinity blade sequel.
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iOS's UI wasn't pretty bad. Well, at least i can (if i have one) open apps directly without opening folders and app drawers...
Did you apply the Mango update? i heard it was great
ph00ny said:
I just have to ask, what doesn't work on your android device?
As for iOS or Macs, lion upgrade was a mess and my experience with the ipad hasn't been that stellar. Lot of apps just do not work or closes without an error message and this includes the stock browser. I've actually avoided ton of apps purely because of numerous complaints about latest apps not running properly (ie EA games, half dozen document viewers, etc)
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Don't like the force closes and that kind of stuff. And updates never come. Custom Roms, sure but half the time they have problems. Just not sure. I like iOS but the small screen size and lack of sd slot bother me the most. Build quality is great though.
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Don't like the force closes and that kind of stuff. And updates never come. Custom Roms, sure but half the time they have problems. Just not sure. I like iOS but the small screen size and lack of sd slot bother me the most. Build quality is great though.
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Why not wait for the Nexus prime first before deciding to buy the iPhone 4S?
So I won the XDA phone of the year contest. I showed my work on the Galaxy S 2 and I was voted to win a AT&T Galaxy S 2 http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/xdas-favorite-phone-and-tablet-of-2011-contest-vote-now/
I am typing this on a Focus S i received from someone at Samsung. This is not what I was expecting. My initial impressions:
1. Laggy. When loading a page, the device tends to lock up and words become illegible.
2. No status indicators when browsing the internet.. I want to see time and signal strength when I post a new thread.
3. Copy and paste should not be the default when you select a cursor position
4. Autocorrect seems to be pretty darn good.
5. Its pretty.
I really hope I'm not stuck working with this closed source device. Everything about it is closed source, down to the Qualcomm processor. As a hobbiest, this device isn't valuable. It is a finished product without the ability to be modified or changed in the true xda hardware/kernel hacking manner.
I'm sorry if I offend anyone. This is not my intent. This device is definitely not for me.
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So I won the XDA phone of the year contest. I showed my work on the Galaxy S 2 and I was voted to win a AT&T Galaxy S 2 http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/xdas-favorite-phone-and-tablet-of-2011-contest-vote-now/
I am typing this on a Focus S i received from someone at Samsung. This is not what I was expecting. My initial impressions:
1. Laggy. When loading a page, the device tends to lock up and words become illegible.
2. No status indicators when browsing the internet.. I want to see time and signal strength when I post a new thread.
3. Copy and paste should not be the default when you select a cursor position
4. Autocorrect seems to be pretty darn good.
5. Its pretty.
I really hope I'm not stuck working with this closed source device. Everything about it is closed source, down to the Qualcomm processor. As a hobbiest, this device isn't valuable. It is a finished product without the ability to be modified or changed in the true xda hardware/kernel hacking manner.
I'm sorry if I offend anyone. This is not my intent. This device is definitely not for me.
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So, I understand that isn't what you were looking for, and yes, it's not 'open source' like the Android phones.
But I'm wondering why you thought you should post it here, rather than complain directly to the XDA moderators and/or Samsung. If you were voted a Galaxy S II, and you didn't receive it, I would think the appropriate place to complain would be the people who offered the content -- not rag on the unit in the user support forum of those of us who enjoy the WP7 O/S and one of the speediest and best looking units out there.
I already did. I figured someone may benefeit from my initial impression of the device. Also, it's not speedy. My single core Infuse4g responds better and has more features.
If samsung lets me keep this device, I'll tear it up and make a how-to on the serial administration console.
Damn the i777 would really benefit from having u onboard =/, hope u can sort it out with samsung tho =]
Hi, I am looking for a Samsung Focus S. But it wouldn't be sold in China. If you don't like it. I want to buy yours. Contact to me via [email protected] if you would. By the way, is is unlocked? I will use China Mobile SIM card.
Don't know if eBay is available in China, but that might be the best place to look.
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I already did. I figured someone may benefeit from my initial impression of the device. Also, it's not speedy. My single core Infuse4g responds better and has more features.
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Curious about what exactly you found not speedy? After going from a Samsung Focus > Galaxy Nexus (for 2 weeks because I couldn't handle all the lag) > back to a Lumia 710 I couldn't find a single aspect of Android that was less laggy than WP7. There are some things Android would do faster (browser page loads) but all in all it did everything with far more lag. Even the keyboard lagged severely compared to WP7.
geoken said:
Curious about what exactly you found not speedy? After going from a Samsung Focus > Galaxy Nexus (for 2 weeks because I couldn't handle all the lag) > back to a Lumia 710 I couldn't find a single aspect of Android that was less laggy than WP7. There are some things Android would do faster (browser page loads) but all in all it did everything with far more lag. Even the keyboard lagged severely compared to WP7.
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I most certainly agree with you here. After the last 2 years with android, I replaced my bionic with the focus s yesterday. I bought a lumia 710 3 weeks ago to check out the 2nd gen devices, after coming back to my Dell Venue Pro. It was $20 USD, with no contract extension, so it was worth a risk. . Yes there are things android does better. But not alot. Wp7 is comparable in many ways...most of the ways I use a phone. Android and rooting and modding, in many ways reminds me of the old tv commercial for McDonald's chicken nuggets...parts is parts.
I will actually be moving to a lumia 900 when it arrives. I bought the Focus because its a 4.3 mango device and I had to leave the Bionic, immediately. It has been a pleasant surprise....no regrets.
Only problem so far...1 freeze when browsing while loading 30 apps with reinstaller.
Hey Guys,
I'm a long time blackberry user and I've gone through at least a half dozen over the years.
I'm currently using the Blackberry Bold 9900, which I suppose is the current flagship model.
I bought the Playbook tablet long ago, unfortunately even after the '2.0 update' it's basically a paperweight and almost useless. In my frustration I bought a kindle fire, and was very impressed. There's a very active dev community, and in no time I had it rooted and was testing out different mods and kernels. Lots of fun.
This got me thinking about getting a more competent android device, the fire is good but I'd be interested to see what a serious device could do. I've been waiting forever to get a tablet with a decent digitizer/stylus and was immediately interested by the Galaxy Note (and later the Galaxy Note 10.1).
I've been seriously considering getting the Galaxy Note as a second phone and giving it a go. However, I still don't understand why I would want or need such a large and powerful device.
Typing on a touchscreen is pretty terrible. Yeah everyone says you get used to it, but I could bang out 50wpm in the dark with my hands behind my back on my blackberry.
I had the iPhone 3GS and I hated it so much I threw it out of the window on the highway. What a nightmare.
Secondly, I only ever use my bb to: email, bbm, twitter, and occasionally make calls.
So I suppose my question is.. Other than the fun that is hacking up the phone/tablet and customizing it. What's the point? Why does one need a device like this? What do you do with it to justify having it? What apps do you need/use on a daily basis that need two cores and a HD screen?
As a consumer, I want one. But as a rational person I don't know what I would use it for. I only use my kindle fire to play crappy time killer games on the treadmill. What's the point?
Thanks for your time.
Android has the ability to customize everything to such an extent that basic, you made the phone. That's what everyone loves about it. You can the look, feel, and functionality all to your liking.
Also, you have the option of the three main android version which are: Stock (can be seen on the galaxy nexus) HTC Sense (can be seen on all HTC phones) and MIUI (a custom rom that extends the customization ability even further with has themes for EVERY aspect e.x. The dialer, messaging app, notification bar, lock screen, etc)
You should go your local bestbuy and play with the phones. Android is a great experience.
In reference to your apps that you like, there are many email and twitter apps, all with different levels of functionality, and being that you're social, you'll enjoy widgets that allow you to send a tweet quickly, right from your home screen. When you finally leave BBM, you'll realize that it's not so important. There is an app called Talk, it's just like BBM, only for android. Texting is also just as good.
I hope I helped in your decision and enlightened your image of Android.
Good luck!
I asked myself these very same questions before purchasing a true smartphone, and sadly it turns out to be a life eater. You can do almost anything on the phone. I use mine mainly for music, news reading, and playing games. But everyone always finds different things useful in their phone. I can almost guarantee you won't regret getting the Note. That is if you can deal with that massively beautiful screen.
Thank you kindly for the responses KayxGee1 and JustinUhhh.
I think I will take the leap, and try it out for at least one month.
I went from BB OS to Android and could not be happier. Give it a try, the positives will likely outweigh any negatives for you.
It all depends on what you do. If you want to be able to play high end games, be able to have the latest software for a good while and be able to keep up with the rest for another year then you should get the note. If none of the above matter then any simple android device should do.
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Overall Android just gives you an experience that is designed for you, couldn't be happier with it.
Honestly I see Blackberrys at the end of the smart phone train. I love Android cause it is sleek and fun to use!
Android can be a portable office, a portable arcade, or a portable jukebox. For geeks the customizability is an attraction in itself. If you travel a lot you really can't beat it as a mobile commumication center. It's really whatever you make of it.
Made the jump, and one week later.. It's going great! The xda community is fantastic, and the hardware is unreal. Cheers guys!
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KayxGee1 said:
Also, you have the option of the three main android version which are: Stock (can be seen on the galaxy nexus) HTC Sense (can be seen on all HTC phones) and MIUI (a custom rom that extends the customization ability even further with has themes for EVERY aspect e.x. The dialer, messaging app, notification bar, lock screen, etc)
You should go your local bestbuy and play with the phones. Android is a great experience.
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Miui isn't a main Android version. But touchwiz on Samsung phones and motoblur on Motorola phones is.
- this sig is just so I don't have to write 10char when on my phone -
Here we have:
- MotoBlur
- Sense
- Xperia
- LG UI
- TouchWiz
- Tap n' Tap UI
- Google Nexus AOSP Devices (Android)
That's all I remember now
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juggies said:
Made the jump, and one week later.. It's going great! The xda community is fantastic, and the hardware is unreal. Cheers guys!
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glad u did bc u went from a stone wheel to a space shuttle
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I really don't ever see this changing because google will never take control of their product. But over the past few weeks I have been noticing that the only phones people really know about are the iphone and samsung s3. Like if i tell people about what a nexus is and why it's better they just look at me crazy like I'm trying to pitch them and I'm the one out of touch.
Google releases a 300 dollar phone that is hard to order, on half the carriers,lacks storage and LTE and they this is going to work. It makes me sick that touchwiz is the face of android. I wonder how google feels about this.
I don't really care much what stupid people think my phone's awsome, wooohooo
n7'd from my n7
Google releases a 300 dollar phone that is hard to order, on half the carriers,lacks storage and LTE and they this is going to work. It makes me sick that touchwiz is the face of android. I wonder how google feels about this.
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Google is new to the hardware market. Sure, they sold already 4 Nexus devices, but the Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus are developer / nerd / android lover devices and not a device for everyone like the Nexus 4.
Google made mistakes, though. Really bad mistaked. The ordering is bad, no 32 GB Nexus 4, Android 4.2 is bad and create weird issues. I hope a 4.2.1 update will come soon and fix the problems with my Nexus 4 (USB OTG, Random ANRs, Touchscreen Sensivity).
Samsung spent a ton on marketing. They deserve to get some fruit from their labors.
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Remember when HTC was the face of Android? Remember when Sense (not the Windows version) was first unveiled along with the HTC Hero? How about the Evo and it's massive (at the time) 4.3in screen? Samsung being in the spotlight now only pushes the other manufacturers to work harder on their new devices and marketing schemes. The other big Android companies will also get their time to shine at some point, but that's not what the Nexus line is about. The Nexus line is really built for Devs, people like us who frequent XDA, and for Google to set the standard for what OEMs should strive for.
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Nope.
Samsung have amazing build quality, some people don't like plastic but the build quality is second to none. The amount of sales and the few returns they have proves this and Apple don't choose Samsung to make the insides of their products because they suck.
Also TouchWiz is great, I don't see why people hate on it so much. Samsung make their phones easy to load new roms, they don't try to stop you from doing it like some. Also when I try to go back to stock Android after using TouchWiz.... I can't because stock Android, even 4.2 is missing so many amazing features. I mean the Note 2's Pen functionality and the PiP and multiple windows is worth TouchWiz alone.
Pointless thread - nothing to do with the Nexus 4
Should be in the Android forum
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About as much as I care that Microsoft is the face of the operating system market.
The general population can keep using what they want, there is always going to be power users who want to tweak and automate everything they can to work best for them.
I'll happily use my AOSP ROMs and Gentoo while the general population happily uses Touchwiz and Windows.
People need to stop saying that the Nexus line is for developers and geeks. That really hasn't been true for years now. That ended when carriers started selling Nexus branded phones in retail stores and online (pretty much since the Nexus S). The Galaxy Nexus was just some weird "Galaxy S II.5" phone offering the stock experience and the Nexus S was the precursor to the Galaxy S II.
This is the Nexus 4 General forum, for news, tips, guides, howtos, etc relating to LG & Google's Nexus 4.
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