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I cam coming to the VIVID from the Atrix and had a couple of issues. I am living in a 4g hdspa area not LTE yet but my speeds with the VIVID were only around 82kb so I talked to ATT and they checked to see if the sim was correct and everything was ok. I then took the sim out the VIVID and put it back in the Atrix I then get over 5mb down. I then go back to ATT and they replace the phone and same issue so they issue a brand new sim and still the same issue. I am going to keep the phone for a couple of weeks to see if something changes but is anybody seeing this issue in non LTE areas. Thanks
I have the skyrocket and getting worse speeds then on other 3g phones I had?
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I'm getting about 1.3 Mbs in non LTE... (Portland)
Thanks for the post I checked with ATT and they cannot figure whats causing this problem I am guessing that somehow ATT LTE Phones are getting confused when there is not LTE in the area and somehow slowing the data down. I am not sure but hopefully will get some answers. Thanks
I sometimes get a couple of mb down and then it throttles back to less than a 100 kb this happened on two brand new phones
I was wondering could it be the APN settings are incorrect.
These phones will be either in LTE or HSPA mode and not both at once. If you see the 4G indicator without LTE under it you are on UMTS/HSPA. If you lose the 4G indicator then congratulations, you are on 2G GSM. Also note that when you make a call the mobile will drop down to UMTS/HSPA and your data speeds will be slower until it reselects back to LTE.
And all phones will have the PTA APN...
I just ran a couple times & about 2 meg down & .9 meg up.
I did have to load APN info this morning because I had no mobile connection at all.
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I am getting my fastest hspa+ speeds with my vivid faster than my inspire and infuse
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Look at your build.prop file in /system what are the hsdpa and hsupa class values? Att screwed the inspire before by lowering the classes, then finally upped them. We may need to update them as well. I think hsdpa of 26 and hsupa of 7 were what the inspire needed to be faster. Mine are 12 and 6 right now. Need root to change though.
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I am getting my fastest hspa+ speeds with my vivid faster than my inspire and infuse
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Ditto. 5023/1121 just now in a non-LTE area...
Maybe the OP needs ATT to remove and readd the data plan... *shrug*
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Ditto. 5023/1121 just now in a non-LTE area...
Maybe the OP needs ATT to remove and readd the data plan... *shrug*
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6525/1057 in a non-lte area way better than my infuse
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gtkansan said:
Look at your build.prop file in /system what are the hsdpa and hsupa class values? Att screwed the inspire before by lowering the classes, then finally upped them. We may need to update them as well. I think hsdpa of 26 and hsupa of 7 were what the inspire needed to be faster. Mine are 12 and 6 right now. Need root to change though.
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Mine are set at 14/6. Wonder if they throttled these phones like they did the inspire and atrix when they first came out. I've been getting 6/7 down and between .8/1.3 up. Not great but not horrible, about the same as my atrix 2 was.
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Ok the thing about this phone is that there is no 3g radios in it. You either get LTE, HSPA+ or edge. So if you are in a poor coverage area that uses mainly 3g, dont get this phone. Honestly i dont see the point of this phone if you dont live in one of the LTE cities or very near it. I live in plano and work in richardson and both those area have LTE so i havent had to resort to hspa+ yet. So moral of the story, there is no 3G on this phone...
But anyways here are my speedtest results. the low ones were in the college library with 1 bar so that didnt suprise me.
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Ok the thing about this phone is that there is no 3g radios in it. You either get LTE, HSPA+ or edge. So if you are in a poor coverage area that uses mainly 3g, dont get this phone. Honestly i dont see the point of this phone if you dont live in one of the LTE cities or very near it. I live in plano and work in richardson and both those area have LTE so i havent had to resort to hspa+ yet. So moral of the story, there is no 3G on this phone...
But anyways here are my speedtest results. the low ones were in the college library with 1 bar so that didnt suprise me.
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Please enlighten me on the No 3G bands in the phone.
Looks to me on the HTC site its all in there Edge, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+ and LTE.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/vivid-att?view=1-0&sort=0#tech-specs
Network-LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz) and quad-band GSM/GPRS/ EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)
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Ditto. 5023/1121 just now in a non-LTE area...
Maybe the OP needs ATT to remove and readd the data plan... *shrug*
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9225/1125 without LTE on my Vivid
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Please enlighten me on the No 3G bands in the phone.
Looks to me on the HTC site its all in there Edge, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+ and LTE.
http://www.htc.com/us/products/vivid-att?view=1-0&sort=0#tech-specs
Network-LTE (AWS/700), HSPA+/UMTS Tri-band (850/1900/2100MHz) and quad-band GSM/GPRS/ EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz)
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According to the ATT rep, the vivid will not have 3g service. Im not sure of the bands and all that but maybe the APN for it wont work. Has anybody been able to use 3g?
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According to the ATT rep, the vivid will not have 3g service. Im not sure of the bands and all that but maybe the APN for it wont work. Has anybody been able to use 3g?
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Are you serious? Is this why I've been having trouble connecting to websites since yesterday? I definitely didnt have 4g signals all the time when I was on the htc inspire. It would often go to 3g, and now if this phone has no 3g then that must explain my issues. At&t really mislead customers. First they release 4g phones and barely had a 4g network. Now they release lte phones, I think you see the pattern.
I may just go to the atrix 2?
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Are you serious? Is this why I've been having trouble connecting to websites since yesterday? I definitely didnt have 4g signals all the time when I was on the htc inspire. It would often go to 3g, and now if this phone has no 3g then that must explain my issues. At&t really mislead customers. First they release 4g phones and barely had a 4g network. Now they release lte phones, I think you see the pattern.
I may just go to the atrix 2?
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I thought I was the only one who had problems connecting to websites....ughh damn you AT&T.
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That sucks this is my speed test in a non LTE area my vivid is blazing fast
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I pick up LTE by my house when I go to the store, which is about half a mile away. When I'm outside that store, my HTC one shows full bars 4G, my girlfriend's iPhone 5 only shows 3G, when I leave the store I still get full bars until I drive under an overpass, then it just randomly turns to full bars 3G.
That doesn't really make sense, I got excited the first time I spotted 4G in that area, thinking that I should also have it inside my house, since it would be faster than my home internet
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I've read several times people saying the bars don't reflect your LTE signal strength but calling signal strength. You could be in the bare minimum fringe of LTE and pick it up and saturated cdma and have full bars and spotty 4g.
Also, the antennas in phones can vary in efficiency and quality. One phone may pick up better than another.
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IPhone 5 bars represent data signal.. The One shows 1x voice.. The One does not hold very good 4G in fringe areas. Wait for the area to launch then start to pinpoint the issue.
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i hope i get 4g soon..i heard by next week
BrianBaker said:
IPhone 5 bars represent data signal.. The One shows 1x voice.. The One does not hold very good 4G I'm fringe areas. Wait for the area to launch then start to pinpoint the issue.
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Sense Roms always show voice signal as bars. You are right. If you install an AOSP Rom on your One the signal bars will be of your data. That's why my wife's old NS4G always seemed liked it had worse signal than my old EVO 3D.
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i hope i get 4g soon..i heard by next week
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Here is the possible bad news: The HTC One uses the Snapdragon 600 which does not support the 800 band of LTE that Sprint has been deploying. I'm currently in Chicago and I can tell you that the 1900 band in a market that is nearly at 100% is spotty at best. The 800 band will travel farther and get better building penetration. The only way to to use the stronger transition band is to switch to a Snapdragon 800 phone when they come out in Q3.
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Here is the possible bad news: The HTC One uses the Snapdragon 600 which does not support the 800 band of LTE that Sprint has been deploying. I'm currently in Chicago and I can tell you that the 1900 band in a market that is nearly at 100% is spotty at best. The 800 band will travel farther and get better building penetration. The only way to to use the stronger transition band is to switch to a Snapdragon 800 phone when they come out in Q3.
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But I don't think Sprint will do much LTE on 800 for a while. They are still shutting down IDEN through the end of the 2013.
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But I don't think Sprint will do much LTE on 800 for a while. They are still shutting down IDEN through the end of the 2013.
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The last day Sprint will be supporting iDEN across the country is June 29th. The 800 band has been testing in Chicago in spots already, especially out in the suburbs. In a market like this where it's the most completed of any NV rollout, the 800 LTE and 800 1x will be live in late Q3.
Check out s4gru.com for all info on LTE deployment for Sprint. There are apps like Sensorly that can show you actual data strength. Your bars do show voice not data strength though, unless you are on a AOSP ROM, they show data strength.
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gk1984 said:
I've read several times people saying the bars don't reflect your LTE signal strength but calling signal strength. You could be in the bare minimum fringe of LTE and pick it up and saturated cdma and have full bars and spotty 4g.
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I have heard this 2. Bars and 3g/4g icon have nothing to do with each other. Bars is phone reception, 3g/4g icon is current data connectivity.
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Hello friends, I live in King Count, Seattle Washington, and my area has Sprint's 4g LTE. I got Galaxy S4 and 60% of the time I have LTE, whilte other 40% on 3g. I return my Galaxy S4 and I got HTC One instead, and now I can't even get 20% of LTE% even if I'm only 500ft away from the tower I can't get 4G LTE. I went sprint store and they check the phone and they said you know what, this phone didn't pass the network test so we will give you another one. I got another HTC One and I still could'nt get LTE!, So I'm kind of thinking HTC One has poor 4G LTE Signal at least on Sprint, What do you guys think? this is my 2nd HTC One and I really missed my Galaxy S4 because of the LTE....
Some people are saying HTC One has one band of Sprint LTE, So I didn't understand can anyone help me please. thanks
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Hello friends, I live in King Count, Seattle Washington, and my area has Sprint's 4g LTE. I got Galaxy S4 and 60% of the time I have LTE, whilte other 40% on 3g. I return my Galaxy S4 and I got HTC One instead, and now I can't even get 20% of LTE% even if I'm only 500ft away from the tower I can't get 4G LTE. I went sprint store and they check the phone and they said you know what, this phone didn't pass the network test so we will give you another one. I got another HTC One and I still could'nt get LTE!, So I'm kind of thinking HTC One has poor 4G LTE Signal at least on Sprint, What do you guys think? this is my 2nd HTC One and I really missed my Galaxy S4 because of the LTE....
Some people are saying HTC One has one band of Sprint LTE, So I didn't understand can anyone help me please. thanks
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Not sure how many lte bands the one supports but Sprint.only has one lte band deployed anyway. I don't think think it's deployed the 800mhz one anywhere.
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If they have not launched your market, then I wouldn't worry about it
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bishaarcc said:
Hello friends, I live in King Count, Seattle Washington, and my area has Sprint's 4g LTE. I got Galaxy S4 and 60% of the time I have LTE, whilte other 40% on 3g. I return my Galaxy S4 and I got HTC One instead, and now I can't even get 20% of LTE% even if I'm only 500ft away from the tower I can't get 4G LTE. I went sprint store and they check the phone and they said you know what, this phone didn't pass the network test so we will give you another one. I got another HTC One and I still could'nt get LTE!, So I'm kind of thinking HTC One has poor 4G LTE Signal at least on Sprint, What do you guys think? this is my 2nd HTC One and I really missed my Galaxy S4 because of the LTE....
Some people are saying HTC One has one band of Sprint LTE, So I didn't understand can anyone help me please. thanks
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Having the same problem here in Charlotte NC also had a S3 and got LTE a good majority of the time. Got the One yesterday and now in those same areas not getting LTE I guess it's a antenna problem maybe. Sucks thinking I'm going to have to get the S4 and really dont want to.
1.Radio update could fix the problem.
2.Wait for your area to be deployed and see if LTE gets better.
3.If neither works then we know the phone is incapable of holding weak LTE signals.
It's up to you to decide if you want to risk the upgrade and wait. My Note 2 holds LTE a lot better than this phone as well. But from what I've seen in these areas where my Note 2 would have an LTE signal the speeds were very poor.. The problem with this HTC One is the hand off between 4G and 3G sucks so bad. Which is why I've forced my phone to only use 3G and never connect to 4G..
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Remember the One only has 800 LTE, which Sprint is deploying 1900 ( or 2100, cant remember) first.
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Remember the One only has 800 LTE, which Sprint is deploying 1900 ( or 2100, cant remember) first.
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The One does not have 800 LTE, only has 1900
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Note that NO Sprint phone at this time has anything other than 1900mhz LTE support.
[I'm cross-posting this in the TMO HTC One forum as well]
My situation:
1. I've been with Sprint since the OG Evo, but after getting the One, I was really frustrated with the slow LTE speeds especially after years of Network Vision promises and paying an extra $10 a month (per phone) for "high speed data" that was anything but. I was also irked at all the crap I had to go through to get the SIM unlocked.
2. The area I live in has refarmed HSPA+ to the 1900Mhz band.
3. The area I live in has AWS LTE.
4. I currently have a Sprint, T-Mobile, and Developer Edition One.
My original plan was to use the DE to test the TMO network to see if it was faster than Sprint and available in all the places I frequent. If so, then I'd sell my (now SIM unlocked) Sprint model and keep the DE, otherwise, I'd return the DE for a refund.
But over the last week and a half I've noticed that, while LTE speeds were frequently pretty high (15-20Mbps) there were still plenty of times when I was only seeing an H or an E. I couldn't even tell if the H was HSPA or HSPA+. So then I began to wonder if I was missing out because of the lack of the 1700Mhz band, thus I bought the TMO version to see if I was missing anything.
Turns out, I wasn't. The H I've been seeing is indeed HSPA+ but nowhere near the advertised 42Mbps. Granted, I wasn't naive enough to think I would pull 42Mbps even with the TMO version, but I expected to get at least in the 20-30Mbps range, instead I've been seeing 5-9Mbps. (Thanks to the Sensorly app, I can now tell which H I'm seeing).
After running around with TMO version, I'm seeing the exact same speeds in the same places. So, I'm not missing anything by not having 1700Mhz. In the meantime, TMO is still refarming more areas so the 1700Mhz is becoming less and less important.
So what about Sprint? At their lowest, the TMO speeds are equal to or a little above the Sprint speeds I've been seeing (my wife inherited the Sprint version during this trial run), and at their highest, Sprint can't touch them (in this area--I've gotten up to 20Mbps in PA).
So T-Mobile it is. When the wife's contract is up at the end of the month, the Sprint model is going up on Swappa. Meanwhile, the TMO version is going back to the store tomorrow.
What about AT&T you ask? Way faster, but way more expensive. Truth is, I spend most of my time on wifi anyway, so I'm not willing to pay AT&T prices for cable internet speeds for the times in between.
Hope this helps anyone else facing the same dilemma.
Really interesting
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With your unlocked Sprint One, what happens if you put your T-Mobile SIM in it? Do you get service? If so, is it HSPA or just EDGE?
Oh, the fun of having choices!
There is not a single provider in my area that carries the HTC One and has LTE. I wish I even had a choice to be able to test. Verizon has LTE in my area, but no HTC one. I wonder how many other people are in my same situation?
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Oh, the fun of having choices!
There is not a single provider in my area that carries the HTC One and has LTE. I wish I even had a choice to be able to test. Verizon has LTE in my area, but no HTC one. I wonder how many other people are in my same situation?
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T-Mobile sucks in my area... My sprint speeds are in my sig.
Can those who have the device already comment on your reception strength compared to your previous devices?
I have a Moto X, and I used the have the M7. Signal strength of the X is a consistent 10-15 dBm better than on the M7.
Just wondering if anyone can chip in and comment on this. If signal strength is about the same as the M7, I may have to go with the S5. I tether for my home internet so every little bit matters.
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Can those who have the device already comment on your reception strength compared to your previous devices?
I have a Moto X, and I used the have the M7. Signal strength of the X is a consistent 10-15 dBm better than on the M7.
Just wondering if anyone can chip in and comment on this. If signal strength is about the same as the M7, I may have to go with the S5. I tether for my home internet so every little bit matters.
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I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
Moto X: - 108 dbm
Evo 4G LTE: -106 dbm
Hope that helps.
webdude12 said:
I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
Moto X: - 108 dbm
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It does, thank you.
For me it makes the difference between hanging onto LTE and dropping down to 3G.
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It does, thank you.
For me it makes the difference between hanging onto LTE and dropping down to 3G.
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Hopefully some others will chime in with their results.. because being worse then the evo lte is not looking good.
That was my main complaint, it would always prefer 3g over lte. Switched to the One and it was much better. Although the fcc filings showed the M8 being even better then the M7. so this is weird.
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Hopefully some others will chime in with their results.. because being worse then the evo lte is not looking good.
That was my main complaint, it would always prefer 3g over lte. Switched to the One and it was much better. Although the fcc filings showed the M8 being even better then the M7. so this is weird.
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Yeah from what I've read the Evo LTE had horribad reception.
Another big thing is that the M8 and S5 have Spark... And since I live in Houston, I'll be able to take advantage of that, which is huge.
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Yeah, im in kc.. So i can't wait to see the difference between spark and their normal lte as well.
Unfortunately i have to wait until next week before they'll put in my order.. Something about only online and telesales until next week, which doesn't handle business accounts. Wait is killin me.
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I have a moto X as a test device. Its not activated, but sitting right next to the New One I get the following:
New One: -110 dbm
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Evo 4G LTE: -106 dbm
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Was this on 3G? The Evo is notorious for having a subpar LTE radio, while the Moto X is known to have a good/strong LTE radio. Your numbers contradict those facts, unless these numbers represent 3G signal. Otherwise, it sounds like the M8 is bad in the RF field.
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Was this on 3G? The Evo is notorious for having a subpar LTE radio, while the Moto X is known to have a good/strong LTE radio. Your numbers contradict those facts, unless these numbers represent 3G signal. Otherwise, it sounds like the M8 is bad in the RF field.
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No this is in LTE. I have modified my back on my EVO LTE to make it have a great connection to the antenna every time. Guess I should have posted that.
My old HTC One here at home would connect to LTE and drop to 3G my new one is on LTE and has not dropped down.
Sitting in my living room and seeing the LTE and Spark icon on statusbar, only one bar but it nice to see. It spins as well.
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Yeah, im in kc.. So i can't wait to see the difference between spark and their normal lte as well.
Unfortunately i have to wait until next week before they'll put in my order.. Something about only online and telesales until next week, which doesn't handle business accounts. Wait is killin me.
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I am on a Sprint business account and was able to order on launch day. I didn't order until about 5pm CST here in KC, so it won't arrive until Friday. It's in Lenexa right now and THAT is killing me!
Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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That's not good :/. Are you comparing the LTE dBm?
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On my M7 I would bounce between 3g/4g all day at work...My M8 stayed on 4g all day at work today
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Just got to work and LTE signal is 15dbm lower(better signal). I have never seen -82 dBm on the OG One. Pretty much had LTE/SPARK the whole 1.5 hours to work.
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That's not good :/. Are you comparing the LTE dBm?
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How is that not good?
And yes, this is on LTE.
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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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This is one of the things that I wanted to know the most. Do you mind setting the phone to CDMA only to compare 3G? LTE at my house is really poor, so I'm just hoping for a better 3G signal for the times when I'm in the area, but not indoors to use WiFi.
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Signal strength on my M8 is consistently 8-10 dBm higher than on my Jewel, sitting next to each other, as reported by SignalCheck Pro.
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Me too. I am happy about that.
Higher dBm means the signal is weaker. Maybe I miss understood you and you meant higher as in the dBm was lower.
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My new M8 definitely seems to hold onto LTE better than my EVO 4G LTE did, it's always saying LTE in parts of my house where the old phone would drop to EVDO. In fact, except for forcing it to EVDO once, I haven't seen it drop there at all.
I am seeing strange issues with Wi-Fi though. The 2.4GHz Wi-Fi radio seems to work fine, but at 5GHz things get lossy. Using Signal Check, I see the link speed up around 300-500Mbps and RSSI varies between -55 dBm to as high as -31 dBm, however, if I were to setup a ping between my laptop on the same network and the phone I see upwards of 50% packet loss. Moving the phone physically I can almost plot out what seem like signal nodes and antinodes. My AP here is an Asus RT-AC66U, and the M8 is the only 802.11ac capable device I believe I've ever tried connecting to it. My older phone and my laptop connect to it at 802.11n just fine.
I'm wondering if anybody else is seeing 5GHz issues, I'll continue to try diagnosing things to see if it's a problem other than with the phone.