My HTC One showed an warning message about not using the right charger! I was using the charger from my Samsung Note II. I thought HTC encouraged customers to reuse existing chargers? Anyone else seen this message before? I'll use the HTC charger now in case I mess-up the battery.
Its because the note 2 uses a higher amp 2 i think to charge.
I think it was the carriers that wanted to reuse old ones. But its best to use the one that came with your phone.
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It's pretty neat that they warned you when you used a different charger cause if something messes up the battery, your only option is to replace the phone.
I certainly wouldn't want to use a charger that's running at 100% above the systems designed input level. I've been in a room when a L-Ion went boom.
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has anyone tried charging from the usb port on a pc yet?
As soon as you plug the phone into a PC it is charging.. Much lower output. Never gonna be an issue
I think its fine to use different chargers , as long as it doesnt overcapacitate ur battery. Note 2's 2amp charger might be bad for the battery because faster charge times wear the battery faster
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Its because the note 2 uses a higher amp 2 i think to charge.
I think it was the carriers that wanted to reuse old ones. But its best to use the one that came with your phone.
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I certainly wouldn't want to use a charger that's running at 100% above the systems designed input level. I've been in a room when a L-Ion went boom.
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The phone decides how much current to draw, not the charger.
Imagine the phones sucks the energy instead of the charger pushing it.
Interestingly I didn't see that warning yet besides charging my One with fourdifferent chargers (old HTC, original One, Nexus 7 and a Sony one...)
How about using galaxy S2 and S3 charger I got both, is it safe for HTC one ?
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Can some expert publish list of safe or compatible charger models which we can safely use for HTC one?
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As someone says, phone decide how much power to draw not chargher.
Chargher just transform 230V AC to XY V DC. 2A is just max power he can provide.
But phone will draw 1.5, 1.7 i don't know how much cuz i don't own it yet.
Only problem is if you have lower power chargher then phone want to charghe is that charhing will lest for hours.
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The phone decides how much current to draw, not the charger.
Imagine the phones sucks the energy instead of the charger pushing it.
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No no no! The mains is like a high pressure hose!
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No no no! The mains is like a high pressure hose!
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Charger acts like sophisticated pressure regulator.
Its task it to take 100-240V~ convert it to steady 5V DC and provide current. How that current is used is responsibility of device internal circuitry.
For more details look here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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Charger acts like sophisticated pressure regulator.
Its task it to take 100-240V~ convert it to steady 5V DC and provide current. How that current is used is responsibility of device internal circuitry.
For more details look here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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Hi everyone.
Recently i lost my orginal charger that comes with GN.
And i decieded to buy a new one.it is samsung branded but for tablet and the output is 2A.
If im not wrong the orginal is 700mA.
Now when i put the phone into charge i feel a little lag and slow down while its charging.
My question is why such a thing happening.?
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Original one is 5v 1A
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The original charger output rating is 5.0V 1.0A....well have charged my note many times through LG and nokia chargers but never faced any lags or slow performance..
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I am not sure with the note but I have experienced this with previous phones. using different charger of different diff rating damages the battery life
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I use both, 1 and 2 A
Anyway the charging current is controlled by kernel.
If I remember right it is limited to 2A
(been a while since i looked into the driver code)
Once i had issues where when my touch response was very jumpy I mean was unable to type a single correct word.. Later on i plugged the charger directly to the wall socket and it was fine. It was a problem with the spike buster, some grounding issues and the charger was original samsung note.. Was able to replicate the same with dellstreak on the same spike buster..
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So its safe to use 2A charger.
And is there any advantages to charge by higher amp?
I mean maybe faster charging time.
And the other question remains with lags and performance issue....!
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Yes it charges much faster. However as stated before, it might have a negative effect on battery life.
Then again the price of a new battery won't kill us
For now my battery is still ok and I bought my Note last year...
Ok i switched the wall AC plug to another one. And no lags anymore.
I think it was that grounding thing our friend said before.
Currently im using 3250 battery gold.china made. Hope new charger wont couse any problem to this battry.
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Just check in the beginning that it doesn't run hot while charging.
Acually it was hot with orginal charger while charging before.
But now its totally fine.
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Ok i switched the wall AC plug to another one. And no lags anymore.
I think it was that grounding thing our friend said before.
Currently im using 3250 battery gold.china made. Hope new charger wont couse any problem to this battry.
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Glad that it helped you... I thought that I broke the touchscreen digitizer cause when this happened to me I was unable to even unclock the screen at first few go's... :beer: cheers
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Cheers mate.:beer:
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My friend bought an SGN2 yesterday and I saw that the original charger that came with it was 5.0V2A.. I was surprised but i want to try it out.. for sure it would slash the charging time in half.. >
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My friend bought an SGN2 yesterday and I saw that the original charger that came with it was 5.0V2A.. I was surprised but i want to try it out.. for sure it would slash the charging time in half.. >
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And take the battery as well with it in half the time!!
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yes it mite damage the battery
Yes the more amps the better so long as the volts match . Better a more powerful, than weak.
The phone draws what it needs no more
It will not screw the batt. It draws what it needs .underpower is worse . The charger could blow...not that way
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In my experience using phone while its on charging progress will not effect the process and time with 2A charger.
In any case using 2A is best.
I bought an orginal samsung tablet charger which is match with other orginal accessory that comes with phone.nice....
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Following Ohm's law, assuming we have the same resistance (the battery/charging circuit), the AMPs (current) would not rise as long as the Voltage wont rise..
So as long as your charger is pumping out 5v, the charging circuit on the phone would take control of the current.. 2A on the charger simply means it can pump out 2A max when the charging circuit demands that much.. I have a 12V 30A power supply and I'm using it to light some LEDs.. They dont burn out.. They only take the current that they need...
Simply saying, even if you have a 5v Unlimited Amp charger, It wont kill your phone.. The charging circuit will take control of the current limit.. If it senses that there is an overcurrent in the system, it will cut it off.. If you have a charger that pumps out more than 5v (I'm sure that is a non standard USB charger) then thats the time you have to worry..
thats a lot explanatory
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so its safe to say 5V & any Amp is ok
Can someone tell me if the Htc One charger is the same as the One S please.
Most chargers nowadays unless an iDevice are the same 5v micro usb
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Thanks, just making sure. Replacing chargers and car chargers and HDMI adaptors is almost as expensive as the phone itself. :laugh:
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Most chargers nowadays unless an iDevice are the same 5v micro usb
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Careful. HTC does something funky with the wiring in their chargers and phones such that, when using a non HTC charger, the phone will only charge at 0.5 amp, vs 1 amp with an HTC charger. Net result is that your phone will take twice as long to charge with a non HTC charger. There are several threads on this subject, and I've observed it first hand on my One. The non HTC charger shouldn't hurt your phone though, only your patience...
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I've never had an issue.. have had HTC for years now and have gone thru several chargers bought from walgreens and they all seem to work fine. I usually charge overnight anyway so I never time the charge lengths. Ymmv I guess?
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I usually charge overnight as well. But I travel a lot, and when I do the GPS - a battery burner - gets a lot of use. What got me started exploring this, was when I saw my HTC ONE battery going in the wrong direction (slowly) while charging in the car while using the GPS. This led me to learning more than I ever wanted to know about HTC chargers and their funky wiring ... Apparently you can get around this by shorting two wires in the USB cable, but I have no intention of trying that!
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I usually charge overnight as well. But I travel a lot, and when I do the GPS - a battery burner - gets a lot of use. What got me started exploring this, was when I saw my HTC ONE battery going in the wrong direction (slowly) while charging in the car while using the GPS. This led me to learning more than I ever wanted to know about HTC chargers and their funky wiring ... Apparently you can get around this by shorting two wires in the USB cable, but I have no intention of trying that!
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Ok I guess I can see that when using a high energy use app like navigation
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Careful. HTC does something funky with the wiring in their chargers and phones such that, when using a non HTC charger, the phone will only charge at 0.5 amp, vs 1 amp with an HTC charger. Net result is that your phone will take twice as long to charge with a non HTC charger. There are several threads on this subject, and I've observed it first hand on my One. The non HTC charger shouldn't hurt your phone though, only your patience...
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I don't think the problem is at HTC but the charger you might have. I have successfully charge @ ~800mA (1000mA = 1 Amp)with different chargers ( Asus charger, Samsung charger and a newer palm charger). My new blackberry charger can charge @ ~600mA.
If I use my older palm charger, my Nokia charger, my old blackberry or a dollar store charger, it will only charge @ ~3xxmA.
If you read the spec carefully, you will see most newer *smartphone* charger max @ 1A, and older charger max @ 500mA. (or my BB charger max @ 800mA. )
So it's OK to use non HTC charger, just be sure to read the spec and find one charger =>1A.
Hope this help.
I'm on the lookout for a car charger someone can confirm will charge the One at full 1A speeds. I don't mean one where it claims to on amazon's site, but that you've actually witnessed it. Thanks for any help!
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I'm on the lookout for a car charger someone can confirm will charge the One at full 1A speeds. I don't mean one where it claims to on amazon's site, but that you've actually witnessed it. Thanks for any help!
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Yeah, I can't find anything on eBay or Amazon meet their description. The one works good for me is a Verizon Charger but it cost 35 usd...
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I usually charge overnight as well. But I travel a lot, and when I do the GPS - a battery burner - gets a lot of use. What got me started exploring this, was when I saw my HTC ONE battery going in the wrong direction (slowly) while charging in the car while using the GPS. This led me to learning more than I ever wanted to know about HTC chargers and their funky wiring ... Apparently you can get around this by shorting two wires in the USB cable, but I have no intention of trying that!
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That is correct, usb specification is 5v, with 500mA (0.5A) maximum, hence the modified cable you refer to. The simplest way if you don't wish to modify cables is to buy HTC car charger
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=246652&phone=246667
Which will charge at up to 1A with any HTC phone
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You can find HTC chargers on amazon that will give you the full 1 amp. Look for older phone models like treo pro or mytouch 4g and they'll be cheaper but work fine.
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I'm on the lookout for a car charger someone can confirm will charge the One at full 1A speeds. I don't mean one where it claims to on amazon's site, but that you've actually witnessed it. Thanks for any help!
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What happens if I charge the phone with a 2am charger? Does it damage my battery? Will it charge faster?
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What happens if I charge the phone with a 2am charger? Does it damage my battery? Will it charge faster?
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The charger *should* only provide 2A if the device (phone) request it.
Just thought I would chime in on some observations here. Long story short, when I bought my HTC One, I left the charger in the box and continued to use my multi-port USB charger with 3x1A ports and 1x2.1A port.
When connected to the 1A port, I found it quite strange that my phone was taking 4 hours or longer to fully charge. Also observed the same thing when connected to the 2.1A port. I was thinking that something was up with my phone somehow limiting the maximum charge current.
Anyway, I read a suggestion to use SystemPanel Lite to check for USB or AC power connected and sure enough it was reporting USB power. I remember the case with my Xperia X10 where you have to short out the two middle (data) pins on the cable or in the charger so that the phone detects that it is being connected to an actual charger. I tested it with my old Xperia charger, another generic USB charger, and the HTC charger and managed to get SystemPanel Lite to report it as AC connected.
But here is the interesting part. I have a car charger rated for 1A. Initially it never worked with the Xperia X10 until I opened it up and shorted out the two data pins. It has worked ever since. However, when I connect this to my HTC One, it still reports it as USB connected.
This has got me thinking that there maybe something more than just shorting out the two data pins for the HTC One to detect that an actual charger is connected. Just some food for thought.
Don't tell me HTC pulled an Apple and we have to buy only HTC chargers to get full speed charging? Does anyone have a confirmed non-HTC car charger that reports "AC" charging in SystemPanel Lite?
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Don't tell me HTC pulled an Apple and we have to buy only HTC chargers to get full speed charging? Does anyone have a confirmed non-HTC car charger that reports "AC" charging in SystemPanel Lite?
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As per my post, I tested a generic USB 1A charger (it's at home, but it was one that was supplied with a Netcomm MyZone) and with my stock Sony Ericsson USB 700mA charger, both of which reported as AC connected. There has to be another way that these can be detected as chargers other than a simple short of the data pins.
Tested not to work so far has been an iPhone charger, Amacrox AX025-TACH1, Philips Power Bug, and two generic USB car chargers both with the data pins open then shorted.
Non HTC charger plugged into wall reports ac power. Proof
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Are either of those car chargers?
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Are either of those car chargers?
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Good point. My apologies. The work "car" managed to be skipped as I read it.
always kind of wondered this, but lets say i use the apple wallplug instead of the htc one does it make any difference at all? same goes for the cord. thanks
There is a thread somewhere here that people were talking about this. I believe they were saying that a different charger that had a higher amp rating did not help and in actuality can damage this phone. Don't know how true that is but I have not tried any combo except for stock.
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There is a thread somewhere here that people were talking about this. I believe they were saying that a different charger that had a higher amp rating did not help and in actuality can damage this phone. Don't know how true that is but I have not tried any combo except for stock.
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It can damage the phone. An iPad charger puts out more amperage than a phone charger but since the phone can only accept a certain amount at a time, the rest can be released as heat.
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Basically I want some advice from people on here.
I've broken my charger, the one that comes in the box. The plastic strip out of the port on the side has snapped off. (I use a 3 metre USB cable in it due to weird plug placement in my room, so the weight may have played a part)
What I have got is a HTC B270 charger from my One S I still have and a TomTom charger that can replace it with.
What I want to know is simple... Is there any pros or cons to using them when I can buy a replacement for a fiver off Amazon?
I'm being serious before anyone shoots me down, I know certain chargers charge faster than others and such.
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No problem, but slower charging time. 1.5 vs 1.0 Ah.
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No problem, but slower charging time. 1.5 vs 1.0 Ah.
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Awesome, cheers. It's only really for charging overnight, during the day I top it up if needs be with the vans cigarette lighter charger.
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I've googled it and I'm getting very mixed opinions. Most say 2.1 of course is faster for charging. I am led to believe that because even the box to there car chargers say the same.
I would like to disagree but need help understanding why. Maybe I'm wrong and I have a faulty charger.
My charger has two ports. One is 1amp and the other is 2.1amp. My 1amp side seems to actually charge my phone faster than the 2.1amp side. Also with 2.1amp while in listening to music through Bluetooth using GPS and navigation all at the same time, it tells me my phone is dying faster than it's able to charge. With the 1amp side I'm able to hold a steady charge sometimes going up at least 2 percent during a 30 minute drive.
What's your opinions? This isn't the iPhone or Samsung threads so I'm sure we have some of the smartest guys/girls here on xda
Edit: sorry I'm a bit stoned atm so forgive me for my typos and I'll fix tomorrow.
.....don't judge. I live in Washington state. It's just as legal as buying a bottle of beer.
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Ok sober now. So nobody knows why 1amp charges faster on this phone than a 2.1amp car charger? I've used several car chargers and it's the same issue.
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Ok sober now. So nobody knows why 1amp charges faster on this phone than a 2.1amp car charger? I've used several car chargers and it's the same issue.
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It should be a no brainer that a 2 amp charger will charge your phone faster as opposed to a 1 amp simply because one has more output than the other. But I believe that because of the smaller battery the phones have, they need a smaller amp per second of charge. If not then it may destabilize your battery.
Thats just my two cents though. Dont quote me
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I've googled it and I'm getting very mixed opinions. Most say 2.1 of course is faster for charging. I am led to believe that because even the box to there car chargers say the same.
I would like to disagree but need help understanding why. Maybe I'm wrong and I have a faulty charger.
My charger has two ports. One is 1amp and the other is 2.1amp. My 1amp side seems to actually charge my phone faster than the 2.1amp side. Also with 2.1amp while in listening to music through Bluetooth using GPS and navigation all at the same time, it tells me my phone is dying faster than it's able to charge. With the 1amp side I'm able to hold a steady charge sometimes going up at least 2 percent during a 30 minute drive.
What's your opinions? This isn't the iPhone or Samsung threads so I'm sure we have some of the smartest guys/girls here on xda
Edit: sorry I'm a bit stoned atm so forgive me for my typos and I'll fix tomorrow.
.....don't judge. I live in Washington state. It's just as legal as buying a bottle of beer.
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i just drove 4 hours with a 2.1 amp , fast charge kernel and i can confirm your exact same findings. no idea why.
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i just drove 4 hours with a 2.1 amp , fast charge kernel and i can confirm your exact same findings. no idea why.
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Be careful with those 2 A chargers. I have seen a lot of threads with fried Ones because of chargers lately
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HTC put a limit on how fast the phone can charge. The chipset supports rapid charging but at what cost (of the battery)? So to be safe HTC disabled that feature of the chipset. So even if you plugged it into a 4 amp USB connector, you are not going charge any faster than say 1 amp. Don't know what the specifications are on the optimal amperage...
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Be careful with those 2 A chargers. I have seen a lot of threads with fried Ones because of chargers lately
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Fried what specifically? phone or battery?
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Fried what specifically? phone or battery?
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Motherboard
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Using a higher amp charger cannot damage the battery. The phone will only pull as many amps from the charger as it needs (probably 1.5 amps max).
Source: basic physics.
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Using a higher amp charger cannot damage the battery. The phone will only pull as many amps from the charger as it needs (probably 1.5 amps max).
Source: basic physics.
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I am saying motherboard. I don't know about physics, but I know from reading the troubleshooting thread that many people have now expensive bricks because of those chargers
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I am saying motherboard. I don't know about physics, but I know from reading the troubleshooting thread that many people have now expensive bricks because of those chargers
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could you possibly link to those threads? I have the dual charger 1&2.1. My results are opposite of op my 1a doesn't charge phone but the 2.1 gains charge while driving even while watching movie! id like to read up if it may be problematic! thx
Htc one battery originally is charged by 5V and 1A charger; Can 5v. and 1.3 A damage the phone?
One thing that nobody here has mentioned is the possibility that your charger might have been wired wrong and the side that charges faster is actually the 2.1mah connection instead of 1mah.
With all of the chargers from everywhere in the world that we get them from and they are supplied from, anything can happen that We don't expect.
Maybe you might want to get it tested with an OHM Meter to verify which connector is the Higher and which is the Lower.
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One thing that nobody here has mentioned is the possibility that your charger might have been wired wrong and the side that charges faster is actually the 2.1mah connection instead of 1mah.
With all of the chargers from everywhere in the world that we get them from and they are supplied from, anything can happen that We don't expect.
Maybe you might want to get it tested with an OHM Meter to verify which connector is the Higher and which is the Lower.
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The only thing that is different (as far as the phone is concerned) is whether it sees an AC style charger or DC style. No matter what, the phone will only pull what the charging circuit "says" to pull.
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For some chargers, sometimes the 2 Amp port appears to be using the Apple protocol for USB power, so that port will only provide 0.5 Amps to most other devices. And when the1 Amp port somewhat over delivers, and can source 2 Amps if nothing else is connected and 1.5 Amps if the 2 Amp port is sourcing 0.5 Amps for a non-Apple device. Thus some chargers can support one high power non-Apple device (in the 1 Amp port) and one lower power device (in the 2 Amp port). FYI I use this charger bought on Amazon---Avantek. Worked really well, versatile and low profile.
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I am saying motherboard. I don't know about physics, but I know from reading the troubleshooting thread that many people have now expensive bricks because of those chargers
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Maybe a myth?