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How to do a complete backup? (lost apps on the internal SD)

So I had my phone working and decided to try a kernel found here.
I went on, flashed the kernel through cwm, and nothing worked (stuck at loading screen with continous reboots).
So I flashed my recovery image, rebooting stopped by stuck it was at the loading screen anyhow.
So, since I could not come out of it, I downloaded a stock rom (I was running stock by the way), flashed it (with smartflash), rooted it (superoneclick), installed cwm (now v5) and I'm back on.
So I flashed the recovery, and most of the data is back but I lost all the apps on the SD card.
The SD card is the same from which I flashed the recovery image through CWM, and all my music is still there.
So might it be possible that the apps are still there too?
What can I do?
Why all the SD apps disappeared?
Edit: ok maybe we're talking about internal SD card... may it be the CWM v5 doing recovery from a v4 zip?

had this problem very, very, often...
nobody really could help me, but i know, its because of problems with the android_secure folder.
so i´m not an expert and i really don´t know what s the reason, but i tried some things and sometimes it helped...
it can appear if something goes wrong when you install an app or move an app from phone to sdcard, or when you want to restore them with titanium or cwm.
the possibiltythat it happens increases when you do both at the same time or, move many apps at the same time p.e. with gemini or install many apps at the same time (p.e. with panda pc suite).
or if something goes wrong with a market update.
mostly, it starts that you can´t install apps anymore. after reboot all apps on sd are away.
with luck you can repair it and get the apps back.
-delete the market cache.
-delete file smdl2tmp1.asec in android_secure folder on sd card or in mnt/... secure.. damn forgot the path of the second folder where this file can be. gotta google for it.
-or create a new android_secure-folder. unmount sdcard. rename android_secure folder to something different, so that there´s no more an android_secure folder. put sdcard back in the phone, reboot the phone. there will be a new empty android_secure folder. shut phone down, put sdcard into pc again, copy all files from renamed folder to the new android_sd folder, put card back into the phone, restart it and wait. with luck, your apps are back again.
don´t now, maybe it helps when you delete dalvik cache and cache before restart. sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
in your case, your apps are away after restore and not because of install/move2sd issues... so in this case its important to completely delete android_secure folder before restore. make a fullwipe. and after fullwipe i would restart phone once, so that a new clean android_secure folder could be created. hope something helps.
edit:
i did a little trick, that my external sd is mounted as sdcard in my phone. so normally the internal sd card is the "sdcard" in the phone. so, cos you can´t put your internal sd into the pc, you gotta mount it with usb connection.

Thanks but I'm afraid in this case the content really got deleted after I reflashed the rom...
IS there a way to really save everything via cwm?
Or should I use another software?
Also if flashing baseband: what will get deleted?

Flashing baseband will wipe /data

Rusty! said:
Flashing baseband will wipe /data
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And how does /data relate to my problem?
Is /data backed up by cwm or not?
What is not backupped by cwm and how to backup it?

Rusty! said:
Flashing baseband will wipe /data
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but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?

punyategar said:
but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?
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If you mean baseband then the answer is no. It restores your ROM and all the apps including their data.

punyategar said:
but you can restore it with nandroid, right? it's going to be just as before?
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Assuming you remembered to back it up yeah.
My radio flash procedure is:
NANDroid backup
Smartflash radio
NANDroid restore
Push new RIL
Use phone

Rusty! said:
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I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.

You may not think so, but it does.

kitty's_daddy said:
I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.
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Definitely wipe /data
Both Rusty! And myself always test new basebands and it definitely wipe /data.
Edit: sorry I'm referring to smartflash.

temasek said:
Definitely wipe /data
Both Rusty! And myself always test new basebands and it definitely wipe /data.
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I think you would be correct.
It's only my opinion.

i use kdz tool, no user data will lost, only system(happened on me 2 times). don't use smartflash it will wipe all data

kitty's_daddy said:
I don't think so.
Kdz tool and official updater didn't wipe data. (Aren't you ?)
They did change only baseband and systems.
But you have to nandroid backup to avoid bricked.
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dont know about kdz, official updater didn't touch my /data at all. i mean, my apps were just as before, the settings...

just use titanium backup and make sure the save location is in the sd card
For certain apps that have their own way of saving data, it might not always work.

I just can't find the correct answer in the posts I've read so far.
If I flash a kernel that doesn't work, and then I restore a CWM backup, why it wouldn't boot again?
If I reflash the stock rom and then restore a previous CWM backup, why something won't be there?
What exactly should I do in CMW to obatin a complete backup?
Or should I use something else?

[Q] CWM error

I get this error while backing up using CWM
Error: Ext sd cannot be backed up, your device may not support backup of Ext sd!!!
And when restoring i get
Error: Ext sd cannot be found.
Why does these errors occur?

At a guess you are on an ics ROM?
Why do you want to bloat a nandroid with a back up of an external sd?, just copy contents to pc if you want to format it
Sent from the depths of despair

slaphead20 said:
At a guess you are on an ics ROM?
Why do you want to bloat a nandroid with a back up of an external sd?, just copy contents to pc if you want to format it
Sent from the depths of despair
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came back to stock GB Rom. Some apps were FCing so decided to reset.
Missing Ext_Sd didn't cause any trouble.
All went well now need to check if those app work or or not.
But one question:
I have a really nice backup with all the installed apps and there data but couldn't restore it correctly as i forgot the kernel that i flashed with CWM using odin.
The backup file looks like a CWM 2 & i remember it was green CWM, but when i use any other kernel with CWM 2 other than the one used to back it up the files isn't restored properly. But i restored it once properly but forgot to see which kernel it was.
Is there any way to find out the kernel & CWM and restore it back properly?
How to find the real CWM used to backup those file?

[Q] ClockworkMod Backup Crash

In as few words as I can muster.
I recently tried to back up my current ROM CheckRomV6 using CWM. In attempting so the following occurs.
CrazyOGuy said:
Screen goes Dark.
Clockwork Mod Opens and Reads:
ClockworkMod Recovery v5.8.1.5
Waiting for SD Card to mount(20s)
SD Card mounted...
Verifying SD Card marker...
SD Card marker not found...
Checking Internal SD Card marker...
Error processing ROM Manager script. Please verify that you are performing the backup, restore, or ROM installation from ROM Manager v4.4.0.0 or higher.
/tmp/recovery.log. was copied to /sdcard/clockworkmod/
recovery.log. Please open the ROM Manager to report the issue.​
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I need to get this fixed so that I can begin the progress change my rom. What is causing this? I'm thinking it's the kernel, but to be frank I really am at a loss. I'm still rather inexperienced with all this. Any suggestions? (I have searched.

You're probably using CWM or a ROM manager to do a backup
Try rebooting in recovery and use the option (Backup & Restore) to do a backup, use .tar format if available in the menu
Backing up the ROM doesn't require a safe kernel, but restoring a backup does
Best of luck

Mohammed Atef said:
You're probably using CWM or a ROM manager to do a backup
Try rebooting in recovery and use the option (Backup & Restore) to do a backup, use .tar format if available in the menu
Backing up the ROM doesn't require a safe kernel, but restoring a backup does
Best of luck
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I just tryed that. Not. Good. This has officially gone over my current know how.
CWM won't let me select anything. Regardless if I scroll up or down ( to try to select Backup & Restore) The cursor moves... then the screen "blinks" black... and then my cursor is back where it originally was at (reboot). I need to make sure that this isn't a deeper problem before I flash something.
I am open for suggestions.

whats the kernel you on?

nokiamodeln91 said:
whats the kernel you on?
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2.6.35. 14-ver.4.2
[email protected] #3​

you could try a different kernel for you rom

I think I screwed my phone :(

I downloaded the HydracoreNirvana kernel and installed it through CWM.
Later I thought of installing the Ultimate N7000 XXLSZ JellyBean 4.1.2 v5.2 ROM but I read somewhere that the HydraCoreNirvana kernel was not supported so I download SpeedMod K5-1 and flashed it through odin. The phone Rebooted but it didn't restart. It only showed the "Samsung Galaxy Note" screen and won't turn on.
I managed to boot into recovery and install the SpeedMod kernel and then, as stated in the ROM's OP, I flashed it checking every step as I took.
ROM was installed successfully but after the Language selection screen it shows "Samsung SetupWizard has stopped". I tried reflashing the ROM but its still the same error.
How do I get past this??
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

boot into recovery... mounts and storage> format - system, data, cache and preload and install the rom again

nokiamodeln91 said:
boot into recovery... mounts and storage> format - system, data, cache and preload and install the rom again
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Okayy. That worked. Thanks a lot!
But the phone is lagging a lot now. Its even worse than before (And I haven't even installed any apps myself yet!). Any way to correct that problem?

install Titanium Backup and remove some of the apps that you dont use.. clear some space and it should become smooth.. also as you have just installed the rom, wait for media scanner to finish... give it a couple of hours

Okay.. One last question, I backed up my Messages and Call Logs through Titanium Backup to an .xml file but now when I want to restore it it doesn't give me the option to select from card/phone. It only shows "DB text editor" and "Dropbox". How do I fix this?

check if your internal and ext SD is detected properly. also check in TB preferences for the location of the backup folder

Yes, the Ext. card and the SD card are detected properly. I copied the backed up .xml files to the existing back up folder for TB but it still doesn't give me the option to restore from the card.

did you try going to preferences>backup folder location> detect

It says "No backup location was found" even though I've set a backup location!

may be try reinstalling TB

[i9001] Unable to uninstall apps, wipe data, flash rom with Odin or CWM

Hi all, this is my first post on XDA. I'm having big troubles with my device, a Samsung Galaxy S Plus i 9001 and I'm looking for some advice.
After a clean installation of the rom i had been using for some time I started to get messages of force close for most of the apps installed at every boot. The ROM in question is SmoothieICS v2. I believe that the reason of this issue is the fact that I restored all the apps and the data with Titanium backup. To solve the problem I tried to restore a nandroid backup via CWM (version 6.0.1.0), but when a rebooted, the backup was not installed at all and the force close messages continued. After that I tried to wipe data and cache, reinstall the ROM via CWM and Odin, install the stock ROM, fix permissions, format the partition, but nothing worked. Every time I reboot the device, the old ROM boot up with the same force close messages.
I've read several posts on XDA with similar issues, but usually a clean reinstall worked fine. At the moment I'm out of option.
Find attache a copy of the logcat recorded after rebooting the device.
Any suggestion to save my phone is really appreciated.
Thnaks in advance.

Some tips here:
1: Flash BroodROM RC5 (this is an Gingerbread ROM with all the partitions of our device) via odin
2: flash CWM 5.5.0.4 (this is in my eyes the most stable recovery) and wipe all (system, data, cache,dalvic etc)

ibacco said:
Hi all, this is my first post on XDA. I'm having big troubles with my device, a Samsung Galaxy S Plus i 9001 and I'm looking for some advice.
After a clean installation of the rom i had been using for some time I started to get messages of force close for most of the apps installed at every boot. The ROM in question is SmoothieICS v2. I believe that the reason of this issue is the fact that I restored all the apps and the data with Titanium backup. To solve the problem I tried to restore a nandroid backup via CWM (version 6.0.1.0), but when a rebooted, the backup was not installed at all and the force close messages continued. After that I tried to wipe data and cache, reinstall the ROM via CWM and Odin, install the stock ROM, fix permissions, format the partition, but nothing worked. Every time I reboot the device, the old ROM boot up with the same force close messages.
I've read several posts on XDA with similar issues, but usually a clean reinstall worked fine. At the moment I'm out of option.
Find attache a copy of the logcat recorded after rebooting the device.
Any suggestion to save my phone is really appreciated.
Thnaks in advance.
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First solution,
SmoothieICS is an outdated ROM. Currently there are more stable and bug free releases are available for our device. You can try that.
But, the choice is yours, if you want to continue with it,
Access download mode, install a stable and safe recoveries like CWM 5.5.04, TWRP 2.2.1, or CWM 6.0.3.2 via odin or you can try to flash it via current recovery.
Then do a full data wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvic cache. If necessary, delete the partition and do a full format
Restore the nandroid backup or do a fresh install
Edit: @mrjraider Haven't seen your reply. Silly me, repeated the same thing you said..

jabrif said:
First solution,
SmoothieICS is an outdated ROM. Currently there are more stable and bug free releases are available for our device. You can try that.
But, the choice is yours, if you want to continue with it,
Access download mode, install a stable and safe recoveries like CWM 5.5.04, TWRP 2.2.1, or CWM 6.0.3.2 via odin or you can try to flash it via current recovery.
Then do a full data wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvic cache. If necessary, delete the partition and do a full format
Restore the nandroid backup or do a fresh install
Edit: @mrjraider Haven't seen your reply. Silly me, repeated the same thing you said..
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No problem mate
Things happen

Thank you both, but your solutions didn't work. After installing BroodROM via Odin my phone rebooted in SmoothieICS just like nothing happened. Also a new recovery can't be installed, Tried with TWRP and CWM with no luck :crying:

ibacco said:
Thank you both, but your solutions didn't work. After installing BroodROM via Odin my phone rebooted in SmoothieICS just like nothing happened. Also a new recovery can't be installed, Tried with TWRP and CWM with no luck :crying:
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That's strange. How is it possible to show up again after deleting and formatting the partition completely.. Are you sure you formatted the data and system in mounts and storage menu of cwm recovery.?
Anyway, Remove your external sd card, and try all the methods again..

Tried again. Did the following:
- removed the external sd card
- rebooted in recovery
- format system and data
- installed CWM 5.5.0.4
- rebooted in recovery
The recovery version installed is still the 6.0.1.0!!!!
It is like the internal SD card can't be written any more.
One thing I maybe didn't mention is that if I delete a file in the internal SD card and the reboot, the file is still there. it is not deleted.
This is really frustrating.

ibacco said:
Tried again. Did the following:
- removed the external sd card
- rebooted in recovery
- format system and data
- installed CWM 5.5.0.4
- rebooted in recovery
The recovery version installed is still the 6.0.1.0!!!!
It is like the internal SD card can't be written any more.
One thing I maybe didn't mention is that if I delete a file in the internal SD card and the reboot, the file is still there. it is not deleted.
This is really frustrating.
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That's strange and weird. Haven't heard about such a problem before. I will look in to it and will reply you if i get something..

ibacco said:
Tried again. Did the following:
- removed the external sd card
- rebooted in recovery
- format system and data
- installed CWM 5.5.0.4
- rebooted in recovery
The recovery version installed is still the 6.0.1.0!!!!
It is like the internal SD card can't be written any more.
One thing I maybe didn't mention is that if I delete a file in the internal SD card and the reboot, the file is still there. it is not deleted.
This is really frustrating.
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I recognize those symptoms. The i/o of the sdcard is defect.
What happens is that when you want to format random 0 and 1 are being written to remove the data on the card. If your card is broken and cant be written to you will be unable to format or flash anything. And thus the data on the card remains.
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mrjraider said:
I recognize those symptoms. The i/o of the sdcard is defect.
What happens is that when you want to format random 0 and 1 are being written to remove the data on the card. If your card is broken and cant be written to you will be unable to format or flash anything. And thus the data on the card remains.
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Does this mean that the only way to solve the issue is to replace the internal SD card?

Same Issue, but with SGS GT-I9000
I have pretty much the same problem!
Ive been reading a lot and it really seems to be a problem of the internal SD card!
I tried many times to delete all the files on the internal SD card via USB and via Recovery Mode, installed different OS ...nothing worked and most of my apps crash the whole time, so force close to all!
Im now about to decide to use my external SD as internal!
What do you say?
Any ideas
Thanks