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Hello all,
Firstly, I've got a (still unlocked) U.S. dev edition with S-On and Hboot 1.44.0000. I've been trying to install yesterday's OTA, but I can't seem to do it. The only changes I've made to my One since I got it were rooting it and installing TWRP in order to flash the MoDaCo toolkit. I understand that the stock recovery is needed to flash OTAs, and so I used fastboot to flash the stock recovery, but when I try to install the update, the progress bar in the recovery goes about 1/4 of the way and then it stops and displays the red triangle with exclamation mark. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, honestly.
I've seen varying advice aimed at other people also having difficulty suggesting I need to relock the bootloader (though as a dev edition, it was never locked, right?) or to get S-Off and then flash it somehow, so I'm not entirely sure what to do. I'd rather not resort to using a RUU as I will lose all of my data.
I didn't think a developer edition phone would be this difficult to deal with, as I've never had any problems flashing countless ROMs, kernels, etc with other android devices. I've never had an HTC phone though, so I've got no experience with S-On/Off, and to be honest I still don't understand what it is.
Anyway, how should I proceed? Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
Thank you for that, but I mentioned that I didn't want to use RUUs. There has to be a way to do this without losing my data.
1) Put your phone in s-off now that you have the 1.44 hboot, trust me is better for you.
2) Maybe you have a custom kernel.
For install OTA you need stock rom, stock recovery and stock kernel.
3) Maybe more info can help us
Deksloc said:
Hello all,
Firstly, I've got a (still unlocked) U.S. dev edition with S-On and Hboot 1.44.0000. I've been trying to install yesterday's OTA, but I can't seem to do it. The only changes I've made to my One since I got it were rooting it and installing TWRP in order to flash the MoDaCo toolkit. I understand that the stock recovery is needed to flash OTAs, and so I used fastboot to flash the stock recovery, but when I try to install the update, the progress bar in the recovery goes about 1/4 of the way and then it stops and displays the red triangle with exclamation mark. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, honestly.
I've seen varying advice aimed at other people also having difficulty suggesting I need to relock the bootloader (though as a dev edition, it was never locked, right?) or to get S-Off and then flash it somehow, so I'm not entirely sure what to do. I'd rather not resort to using a RUU as I will lose all of my data.
I didn't think a developer edition phone would be this difficult to deal with, as I've never had any problems flashing countless ROMs, kernels, etc with other android devices. I've never had an HTC phone though, so I've got no experience with S-On/Off, and to be honest I still don't understand what it is.
Anyway, how should I proceed? Thank you.
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I'm having the exact same issues. I'm on HBOOT 1.44, S-On (I'd love to get S-Off, but revone keeps giving me error code -1...), and previously got the OTA's to work by flashing stock recovery, running the OTA, then reflashing TWRP. This one doesn't seem to work that way, though. If you figure anything out, or find the right stock recovery, please do share!
Firstly, thank you for reading this post. I appreciate that there are a number of posts already covering a lot of what I will be asking (I have already checked and Googled) but in much the same way you end up watching a video of a cat rescuing a child from Narnia on YouTube when you originally started with videos about the political stability in the Middle East, the tedious link between start and finish is now well and truly blurred!
With the above in mind, the aim of this post is to try and collate answers to my questions in one place. I will try and be as clear as possible.
It is also worth mentioning I am not completely new to this. I previously owned an HTC Sensation which I rooted myself (even used the paper clip technique) but the world of ROMs and “Framework” etc seems to be totally different to what is was a few years ago.
I suppose I will start with the basics, the custom recovery.
I have used both CWM and 4EXT in the past and am wondering which is favourable for the HTC One? A lot of posts I have read use CWM but an advantage I found with 4EXT was the ability to flash Kernels without having to go through the whole Super CID route I had to with my Sensation. Am I concerned about an issue that no longer exists or are the benefits of using 4EXT still relevant for the HTC One?
Secondly….and sort of thirdly, kernels and ROMs. Obviously I am wanting to OC the HTC One and I have found a number of kernels which allow this. I have also found a number of custom ROMS which include kernels that allow for over clocking….fine, except the “thirdly” part of this question is the difference between custom ROMs and the “Xposed” framework I have been reading about.
If I flash a custom ROM will Xposed still work or is it a case of one or the other?
To me, it seems the Xposed framework is the preferred option by a number of people for the very detailed level of customisable options it provides without (almost) any of the unwanted parts.
I appreciate the above might be a bit tongue tied so here is a simpler way of what I am asking:
• Custom ROM + Kernel + Xposed – Possible? And or necessary?
• Kernel + Xposed – Possible?
• Custom ROM + Kernel – I know this is possible.
Now, if the first bullet point is possible, I would like to know of a few 4.3 ROMs I can use. Please remember I am on the international UK version. A number of posts have US 4.3 ROMs but every time I look for international compatible ROMs it only ever states 4.2.2.
Is there a 4.3 ROM available for the UK HTC SIM Free One?
Note* The ROMs do not have to include kernels, I can find a compatible one easy enough.
Lastly, S-OFF.
If the original question about recovery images is negative, do I have to S-Off the device and S-CID etc?
If you got this far, thanks for reading and hopefully you can make things a little clearer than mud!
First thing I'd do is check the HBOOT on the phone as if you're on 1.44 I'd S-OFF it NOW! Even if you never do anything else it gives you the option in future
I'd then just use the phone as normal as this is the first phone I've not had to root...
If you DO want to go down the rooting route, then I'd look at Android Revolution HD which is currently running the latest leaked build for the EU handsets and works 100% fine on the unbranded EU/UK handset
EddyOS said:
First thing I'd do is check the HBOOT on the phone as if you're on 1.44 I'd S-OFF it NOW! Even if you never do anything else it gives you the option in future
I'd then just use the phone as normal as this is the first phone I've not had to root...
If you DO want to go down the rooting route, then I'd look at Android Revolution HD which is currently running the latest leaked build for the EU handsets and works 100% fine on the unbranded EU/UK handset
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Thanks Eddy,
I would like to go down the rooting path due to the OC and customisable options.
I will check the HBOOT though when I get it in a few days....
Thanks.
Anyone else with any other comments on OP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
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r1tesh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
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Thanks for the link.
I did already find this and have it saved as a point of reference for when I figure out what I need to do.
I think my questions above still require guidance though as I am already aware updating firmware will require S-Off and S-CID but when I rooted my second Sensation, 4EXT allowed for the flashing of certain things without the requirement to S-OFF or S-CID (paper clip trick).
Furthermore, this doesnt touch on the ROM vs Xposed query but as mentioned, thanks for the link.
WOW long post
ssjghost said:
Lastly, S-OFF.
If the original question about recovery images is negative, do I have to S-Off the device and S-CID etc?
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Actually, this should be firstly, S-Off if you can (at the moment that's only for hboot 1.44 pre June 2013, or using a JavaCard); use vomer's guide posted above.
Things have changed since Sensation, S-Off is good to change CID (IF needed), but a must for flashing unsigned firmware. (not to mention running a downgrade RUU)
However, even with S-On, you can still flash custom ROM, kernel, recovery, and even radio, using HTCdev to get an unlock token for your phone.
ssjghost said:
I suppose I will start with the basics, the custom recovery.
I have used both CWM and 4EXT in the past and am wondering which is favourable for the HTC One? A lot of posts I have read use CWM but an advantage I found with 4EXT was the ability to flash Kernels without having to go through the whole Super CID route I had to with my Sensation. Am I concerned about an issue that no longer exists or are the benefits of using 4EXT still relevant for the HTC One?
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You'll need to use either CWM or TWRP, I believe 4EXT is not (yet) compatible with HTC One M7. As mentioned above both these recoveries are able to flash ROM, kernel and radio. S-Off and SuperCID not needed. Download those from the threads in xda, not the official web site as the ones in the thread are more up to date.
ssjghost said:
• Custom ROM + Kernel + Xposed – Possible? And or necessary?
• Kernel + Xposed – Possible?
• Custom ROM + Kernel – I know this is possible.
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All three possible. :good::good:
ssjghost said:
Now, if the first bullet point is possible, I would like to know of a few 4.3 ROMs I can use. Please remember I am on the international UK version. A number of posts have US 4.3 ROMs but every time I look for international compatible ROMs it only ever states 4.2.2.
Is there a 4.3 ROM available for the UK HTC SIM Free One?
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I can't say for all ROMs, but many of them are/were based on the US Developer edition, which was one of the first to receive 4.3, but were recoded to be WWE editions, that would work for UK.
Just remember to stay away from Sprint and Verizon editions, as these are completely different.
ssjghost said:
Note* The ROMs do not have to include kernels, I can find a compatible one easy enough.
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The ROMs do include a kernel, but you can flash any other kernel after having flashed the ROM; so by extension every time you flash a ROM, you would need to reflash your custom kernel (making sure it's compatible with the ROM base obviously).
Hope that helps out a little, and remember to hit the thanks button for all that helped
nkk71 said:
WOW long post
Actually, this should be firstly, S-Off if you can (at the moment that's only for hboot 1.44 pre June 2013, or using a JavaCard); use vomer's guide posted above.
Things have changed since Sensation, S-Off is good to change CID (IF needed), but a must for flashing unsigned firmware. (not to mention running a downgrade RUU)
However, even with S-On, you can still flash custom ROM, kernel, recovery, and even radio, using HTCdev to get an unlock token for your phone.
You'll need to use either CWM or TWRP, I believe 4EXT is not (yet) compatible with HTC One M7. As mentioned above both these recoveries are able to flash ROM, kernel and radio. S-Off and SuperCID not needed. Download those from the threads in xda, not the official web site as the ones in the thread are more up to date.
All three possible. :good::good:
I can't say for all ROMs, but many of them are/were based on the US Developer edition, which was one of the first to receive 4.3, but were recoded to be WWE editions, that would work for UK.
Just remember to stay away from Sprint and Verizon editions, as these are completely different.
The ROMs do include a kernel, but you can flash any other kernel after having flashed the ROM; so by extension every time you flash a ROM, you would need to reflash your custom kernel (making sure it's compatible with the ROM base obviously).
Hope that helps out a little, and remember to hit the thanks button for all that helped
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Perfect! Thats the answer I was "rooting" for.......
Although, your detailed answer has prompted another question.
Given that I can flash ROMS, Xposed and kernels without the need to S-Off or Super CID and the only benefit to S-Off and S-CID is the ability to flash new firmware and radios, this begs the question, for the not so hard core rooting user, do I even need to?
Agreed the posts say to S-Off straight away so I will heed this advice but in honesty, am I required to?
Am I likely to encounter any problems by flashing 4.3 ROMs without upgrading to the latest firmware?
S-OFF gives you a 'get out of jail' option should you ever need it as you can flash an RUU to return the phone to stock. What software build are you running on at present?
It's always best to match firmware to the ROM
EddyOS said:
S-OFF gives you a 'get out of jail' option should you ever need it as you can flash an RUU to return the phone to stock. What software build are you running on at present?
It's always best to match firmware to the ROM
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Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
ssjghost said:
Perfect! Thats the answer I was "rooting" for.......
Although, your detailed answer has prompted another question.
Given that I can flash ROMS, Xposed and kernels without the need to S-Off or Super CID and the only benefit to S-Off and S-CID is the ability to flash new firmware and radios, this begs the question, for the not so hard core rooting user, do I even need to?
Agreed the posts say to S-Off straight away so I will heed this advice but in honesty, am I required to?
Am I likely to encounter any problems by flashing 4.3 ROMs without upgrading to the latest firmware?
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SuperCID is not needed anyway (I believe) for flashing unsigned firmware, S-Off should suffice. On the other hand, finding signed firmware, is quite difficult, I haven't seen but a few around (and pretty old). You could still receive them using OTAs, but that would force you to flash stock ROM, stock recovery, and maybe even relock the bootloader, then having to go through the bootloader unlocking procedure again (which also wipes your phone completely, including sdcard/internal storage)
That bring one thing to mind, the first thing you should do once you install a custom recovery, is do a complete nandroid backup of your phone, should you need to get back to it at some later point in time (including for example, receiving OTAs)
As for "needing" to upgrade firmware, there are people still running 1.xx firmware (from Android 4.1.2) with 4.3 ROMs. Everything from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 was pretty much OK with any firmware.
However, I've recently read a few posts on ARHD, where some issues (on ARHD 30.0) were actually only resolved with an update to the latest firmware. I cannot confirm these were actually issues due to different firmware and base versions, but it may very well be case.
If you are able to achieve s-off (I personally did it with revone, as it doesn't use a custom hboot, just get's rid of the security ON), I highly recommend it. Even if you never need it, having it is better as it will allow you to downgrade/upgrade, etc.etc.
One last thing, when you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader and flash custom stuff, the bootloader will show "UNLOCKED" and "TAMPERED", even if you lock it again, it will only show as "RELOCKED", whereas with revone, you can remove the "TAMPERED" sign, and even return it to "LOCKED".
PS: Since you're in the UK, at worst, you can use the FunFoneShop (or whatever they're called), because they have JavaCards which can achieve S-Off even for 1.54 hboot (I think they charge something like 20 or 30 pounds, if I'm not mistaken)
Also, some people are saying that s-off for 1.54 "is around the corner" (by beaups), but can't confirm that either.
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ssjghost said:
Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
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Software build is the HTC version, ie ARHD 30.0 is "latest official HTC One 3.57.401.500 - Android 4.3", and firmware would be the firmware in that release. You can use different firmware version with different base version, but it's always best (if you can) to have both the same.
ssjghost said:
Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
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As in the build shown in Settings>About phone>Software information, e.g. 2.24.401.8
nkk71 said:
SuperCID is not needed anyway (I believe) for flashing unsigned firmware, S-Off should suffice. On the other hand, finding signed firmware, is quite difficult, I haven't seen but a few around (and pretty old). You could still receive them using OTAs, but that would force you to flash stock ROM, stock recovery, and maybe even relock the bootloader, then having to go through the bootloader unlocking procedure again (which also wipes your phone completely, including sdcard/internal storage)
That bring one thing to mind, the first thing you should do once you install a custom recovery, is do a complete nandroid backup of your phone, should you need to get back to it at some later point in time (including for example, receiving OTAs)
As for "needing" to upgrade firmware, there are people still running 1.xx firmware (from Android 4.1.2) with 4.3 ROMs. Everything from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 was pretty much OK with any firmware.
However, I've recently read a few posts on ARHD, where some issues (on ARHD 30.0) were actually only resolved with an update to the latest firmware. I cannot confirm these were actually issues due to different firmware and base versions, but it may very well be case.
If you are able to achieve s-off (I personally did it with revone, as it doesn't use a custom hboot, just get's rid of the security ON), I highly recommend it. Even if you never need it, having it is better as it will allow you to downgrade/upgrade, etc.etc.
One last thing, when you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader and flash custom stuff, the bootloader will show "UNLOCKED" and "TAMPERED", even if you lock it again, it will only show as "RELOCKED", whereas with revone, you can remove the "TAMPERED" sign, and even return it to "LOCKED".
PS: Since you're in the UK, at worst, you can use the FunFoneShop (or whatever they're called), because they have JavaCards which can achieve S-Off even for 1.54 hboot (I think they charge something like 20 or 30 pounds, if I'm not mistaken)
Also, some people are saying that s-off for 1.54 "is around the corner" (by beaups), but can't confirm that either.
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Software build is the HTC version, ie ARHD 30.0 is "latest official HTC One 3.57.401.500 - Android 4.3", and firmware would be the firmware in that release. You can use different firmware version with different base version, but it's always best (if you can) to have both the same.
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OK, so asuming I will be flashing a 4.3 ROM or 4.2.2 at the latest, my software version will be 3.57.401.500?
Therefore find the appropriate firmware for this software build?
The build is linked to the ROM you flash. ARHD is currently based on the recent 3.57.401.500 leak which is Android 4.3 and you'd ideally need the FW to match it but you have to be S-OFF to flash the FW
Going back to my previous question, what build are you currently on? It's more to direct you for backups/recovery options more than anything as before you jump head long into the rooting world it's ALWAYS the best to know how to revert to stock if required
EddyOS said:
As in the build shown in Settings>About phone>Software information, e.g. 2.24.401.8
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Just to confirm, I am yet to obtain the phone.
Once I have it I and I have flashed a 4.3 ROM, I asume I will need to find the compantable firmware and also flash this.
ssjghost said:
Just to confirm, I am yet to obtain the phone.
Once I have it I and I have flashed a 4.3 ROM, I asume I will need to find the compantable firmware and also flash this.
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Recommended YES, needed not always necessary. (and you need s-off for that)
Firmware can be found in @vomer's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506 (in section 2)
EddyOS said:
The build is linked to the ROM you flash. ARHD is currently based on the recent 3.57.401.500 leak which is Android 4.3 and you'd ideally need the FW to match it but you have to be S-OFF to flash the FW
Going back to my previous question, what build are you currently on? It's more to direct you for backups/recovery options more than anything as before you jump head long into the rooting world it's ALWAYS the best to know how to revert to stock if required
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Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
ssjghost said:
Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
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No. First thing is:
1. Find build version
2. Find RUU for backup purposes and download if available for your build
3. S-OFF (if possible) and unlock bootloader at the same time
4. Flash custom recovery (through fastboot)
5. Backup current ROM
6. Flash new ROM
7. Flash GAPPs (only if using CyanogenMod/AOSP - they're included in Sense-based ROMs)
8. Flash FW (through fastboot, not recovery)
9. Do anything else you want
ssjghost said:
Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
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If you get it with hboot 1.44 (pre June 2013), you can first S-Off and unlock bootloader without using HTCdev.
EddyOS said:
No. First thing is:
1. Find build version
2. Find RUU for backup purposes and download if available for your build
3. S-OFF (if possible) and unlock bootloader at the same time
4. Flash custom recovery (through fastboot)
5. Backup current ROM
6. Flash new ROM
7. Flash GAPPs (only if using CyanogenMod/AOSP - they're included in Sense-based ROMs)
8. Flash FW (through fastboot, not recovery)
9. Do anything else you want
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Thanks, and thanks eveyone else. You can probably see from the number of posts Ive made I try and find out stuff before posting so its appreciated not getting flammed when I do!
Thanks for all your help with this and no doubt youll hear from me again when I follow the step by step guides "to the letter" and end up on boot-loop!
Didn't think it would take long before I posted again.
Spent the evening trawling the forum and the CM page but cant seem to find a CM ROM for the international M7? Even a link to the CM site from another site returned a page on CM website but no files? Am I mistaken? Example: http://www.get.cm/?device=m7&type=
So...after yet more searching Im guessing the Pac-Man ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348415 and kernel here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301543 are compatible although it doesn't look like the kernel allows for middle HTC button to become menu. Does anyone know where I can find the firmware?
IGNORE HERE: PRE EDIT - If not, then can anyone advise a lightweight,non-sense ROM (offering 4.2.2 or 4.3), a compatible overclocking and HTC menu button converting kernel and the applicable firmware?
So, I received my replacement HTC One from HTC today and it's pre-updated to 4.4.2 Android and Sense 6.0. From what I've read, that is a problem when it comes to wanting S-Off in the future.
My question is, what do I do from here to get back to being Unlocked, Rooted, SuperCID, S-Off, etc. I want my phone fully up to date to the best of it's capabilities with all of this. (I never updated firmwares, radios, etc when I had my phone before and I'm not sure if that held me back any).
It's been over a year now since I've done any of this stuff and all of my confidence is gone due to the absence. Where do I start nowadays? Any particular order so I don't have to re-lock my bootloader to S-Off or to install a firmware update or blah blah.
What order of things do I do and what do I do from here? Fully stock at the moment with Hboot 1.57
Note:
I'm not a huge fan of Sense roms, so my goal is to probably use ARHD 6.1 (GPE) for my stable rom and use CM11 for my unstable AOSP rom. I want to be able to freely switch between the two without issues if possible, like I was able to before.
Leather Sock said:
So, I received my replacement HTC One from HTC today and it's pre-updated to 4.4.2 Android and Sense 6.0. From what I've read, that is a problem when it comes to wanting S-Off in the future.
My question is, what do I do from here to get back to being Unlocked, Rooted, SuperCID, S-Off, etc. I want my phone fully up to date to the best of it's capabilities with all of this. (I never updated firmwares, radios, etc when I had my phone before and I'm not sure if that held me back any).
It's been over a year now since I've done any of this stuff and all of my confidence is gone due to the absence. Where do I start nowadays? Any particular order so I don't have to re-lock my bootloader to S-Off or to install a firmware update or blah blah.
What order of things do I do and what do I do from here? Fully stock at the moment with Hboot 1.57
Note:
I'm not a huge fan of Sense roms, so my goal is to probably use ARHD 6.1 (GPE) for my stable rom and use CM11 for my unstable AOSP rom. I want to be able to freely switch between the two without issues if possible, like I was able to before.
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You can try firewater s-off before you unlock bootloader, if that doesn't work you can go the conventional route by HTCDev unlock first, then custom recovery and root then firewater s-off. If you can not get s-off with firewater, then you might be able to get it with Sunshine. Which ever way you go before flashing a custom ROM, do a nandroid backup and save it to your PC.
majmoz said:
You can try firewater s-off before you unlock bootloader, if that doesn't work you can go the conventional route by HTCDev unlock first, then custom recovery and root then firewater s-off. If you can not get s-off with firewater, then you might be able to get it with Sunshine. Which ever way you go before flashing a custom ROM, do a nandroid backup and save it to your PC.
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So I use Firewater and that makes me S-Off even though my bootloader isn't unlocked and I don't have root? I know it says it uses a "temp" root option but if I use this, will I not have a rom anymore or does it just do it in the background until I unlock the bootloader and stuff?
Leather Sock said:
So I use Firewater and that makes me S-Off even though my bootloader isn't unlocked and I don't have root? I know it says it uses a "temp" root option but if I use this, will I not have a rom anymore or does it just do it in the background until I unlock the bootloader and stuff?
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The second method will using a temporary root get you S-OFF with an UNLOCKED bootloader. You will still have to flash a custom rom and gain root. It should not effect your rom, in fact it works best on stock roms. As it says in the OP it doesn't work on all phones. You may have to use the first method. It is an option, it is your choice.
majmoz said:
The second method will using a temporary root get you S-OFF with an UNLOCKED bootloader. You will still have to flash a custom rom and gain root. It should not effect your rom, in fact it works best on stock roms. As it says in the OP it doesn't work on all phones. You may have to use the first method. It is an option, it is your choice.
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Okay, so I should be able to follow all of those steps in the second option with TempRoot and my phone will still function and behave like it does right now? Reason I ask is I need my phone for work and I plan to sleep in 2 hours. I have enough time to do the bootloader unlocking + S-off, but not the rooting/custom rom right now.
If I can do this in bits and pieces, it'll be very helpful. I just need to make sure my rom will be working after
Leather Sock said:
Okay, so I should be able to follow all of those steps in the second option with TempRoot and my phone will still function and behave like it does right now? Reason I ask is I need my phone for work and I plan to sleep in 2 hours. I have enough time to do the bootloader unlocking + S-off, but not the rooting/custom rom right now.
If I can do this in bits and pieces, it'll be very helpful. I just need to make sure my rom will be working after
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Why not wait until you have ample time just in case something goes sideways on you! If you are rushed for time, that is when mistakes happen so wait until the weekend.
majmoz said:
Why not wait until you have ample time just in case something goes sideways on you! If you are rushed for time, that is when mistakes happen so wait until the weekend.
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Yeah, I suppose. I just feel so...messy with this stock ROM. I'm so used to using a ROM completely based off of what I want installed on it that doesn't use Sense at all. Oh well.
I'll get Nova launcher on there and clean it up a little bit.
I'm overwhelmed by all the shop speak regarding the android OS. Everything's an acronym, and everything sounds vaguely similar to everything else. Stock recovery, stock rom, stock firmware, factory reset, I'm a computer literate person, and I don't know what the difference is between any of these things, I only know that they're serious.
So here's my situation:
I have a Sprint HTC One M8, unlocked with s-off.
I have adb installed on my PC, TWRP and Super SU installed on my phone,
I need to install system updates, first to install KitKat 4.4.4, then immediately after, Lollipop.
When I go to install
my phone boots into TWRP mode
I go to update
select the update zip
swipe to flash
and get "updating partition details... failed"
I gather that I'm supposed to first restore to a stock recovery, and I think I found the correct one here, but the instructions I'm finding are very convoluted. I need to either unlock or lock my bootloader using adb. I need to flash one of the downloads on that page, but I'm not certain which one, how to flash it.
I understand that this isn't a forum for newbies, but that's just the thing, I'm not usually lost when it comes to this stuff, which makes me think many others are probablylost as well.
Can anyone clearly explain the steps I need to take, with a minimum of acronyms, to do whatever you do with a stock recovery to then be able to install Sprint updates?
I posted this question in a different way back in November and had one member keep posting unhelpful answers until the whole thread got hijacked by piggyback questions. I've also found step by step guides that each conflict with one another. One may have 5 steps and the other may have 12, and in one way or another they've always gone off the rails until they no longer seemed to apply to my use case.
If you can help, thank you.
Dr.Zee said:
I'm completely overwhelmed by all the shop speak regarding the android OS. Everything's an acronym, and everything sounds vaguely similar to everything else. Stock recovery, stock rom, stock firmware, factory reset, I don't know what the difference is between any of these things, I only know that they're serious.
So here's my situation:
I have a Sprint HTC One M8, unlocked with s-off.
I have adb installed on my PC, TWRP and Super SU installed on my phone,
I need to install system updates, first to install KitKat 4.4.4, then immediately after, Lollipop.
When I go to install
my phone boots into TWRP mode
I go to update
select the update zip
swipe to flash
and get "updating partition details... failed"
I gather that I'm supposed to first restore to a stock recovery, and I think I found the correct one here, but the instructions I'm finding are very convoluted. I need to either unlock or lock my bootloader using adb. I need to flash one of the downloads on that page, but I'm not certain which one, how to flash it.
I understand that this isn't a forum for newbies, but that's just the thing, I'm not usually lost when it comes to this stuff, which makes me think many others are probablylost as well.
Can anyone clearly explain the steps I need to take, with a minimum of acronyms, to do whatever you do with a stock recovery to then be able to install Sprint updates?
I posted this question in a different way back in November and had one member keep posting unhelpful answers until the whole thread got hijacked by piggyback questions.
If you can help, thank you.
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First things first, this is a forum for all kinds but there is a Q&A section.
On to the update.
The first thing you need to do is boot to fastboot and type "fastboot oem lock" without quotes and press enter.
The device should be locked and from there you should be able to run the RUU (ROM update utility) that comes directly from htc, no need to do the incremental updates from KK (kitkat) to LP (Lollipop) unless you are looking to do something specific on a certain radio or firmware.
No need to flash stock recovery if you run the RUU, only lock the bootloader.
The RUU files are found on the HTC website or in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729173 and you should find the directions there, just follow the S-on procedure if you are S-ON, you would know because at this point the only way to obtain S_OFF is to pay 25$ to use the Sunshine app.
This might be able to be moved to the Q&A by a mod and there are plenty of users and devs around here willing to help, just ask questions and try to follow the directions first.
dopy25 said:
First things first, this is a forum for all kinds but there is a Q&A section.
On to the update.
The first thing you need to do is boot to fastboot and type "fastboot oem lock" without quotes and press enter.
The device should be locked and from there you should be able to run the RUU (ROM update utility) that comes directly from htc, no need to do the incremental updates from KK (kitkat) to LP (Lollipop) unless you are looking to do something specific on a certain radio or firmware.
The RUU files are found on the HTC website or in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729173 and you should find the directions there, just follow the S-on procedure if you are S-ON, you would know because at this point the only way to obtain S_OFF is to pay 25$ to use the Sunshine app.
This might be able to be moved to the Q&A by a mod and there are plenty of users and devs around here willing to help, just ask questions and try to follow the directions first.
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Thank you very much, I'll run through these steps.
Question, I installed a couple firmware patches after I got s-off. when this is finished, will those be overwritten? Will my phone still be s-off, or would I have to pay to have that done again?
Dr.Zee said:
Thank you very much, I'll run through these steps.
Question, I installed a couple firmware patches after I got s-off. when this is finished, will those be overwritten? Will my phone still be s-off, or would I have to pay to have that done again?
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So you are S-OFF, OK.
No, the S_OFF is tracked by the device I believe, and would still be able to be used without having to pay again. I have read that many places.
I would not do the full RUU if you are s-off, but the thread I linked has zips to flash firmwares and roms and keep S_OFF. I am still on so I have no experience with S-OFF but I would not lock the bootloader until another s-off user confirms.
dopy25 said:
So you are S-OFF, OK.
No, the S_OFF is tracked by the device I believe, and would still be able to be used without having to pay again. I have read that many places.
I would not do the full RUU if you are s-off, but the thread I linked has zips to flash firmwares and roms and keep S_OFF. I am still on so I have no experience with S-OFF but I would not lock the bootloader until another s-off user confirms.
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I got a little wreckless and just went ahead and tried it. Everything worked. I'm running Lollipop, I still have S-off, and I just re-rooted through the HTC dev program. The firmware patches I installed were overwritten, but, you can't have everything.
Thank you very much, I'd been dealing with system update messages for months.
Dr.Zee said:
I got a little wreckless and just went ahead and tried it. Everything worked. I'm running Lollipop, I still have S-off, and I just re-rooted through the HTC dev program. The firmware patches I installed were overwritten, but, you can't have everything.
Thank you very much, I'd been dealing with system update messages for months.
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What do you mean by patches? Just specific bits of firmware? I don't really know of any benefits to having specific bootloader or hboot or radio over another. It used to matter back in the day but I think it is best to have the most updated if you are going to run a newer ROM anyway.
Also, if you are S-OFF you can always downgrade any of them at any time. So if any of the patches you had before gave you any benefits you can always run them again.
Glad you got it taken care of. On any note, if you muck something up you can always run the RUU to get back to stock. HTC did us a huge favor with those.
dopy25 said:
What do you mean by patches? Just specific bits of firmware? I don't really know of any benefits to having specific bootloader or hboot or radio over another. It used to matter back in the day but I think it is best to have the most updated if you are going to run a newer ROM anyway.
Also, if you are S-OFF you can always downgrade any of them at any time. So if any of the patches you had before gave you any benefits you can always run them again.
Glad you got it taken care of. On any note, if you muck something up you can always run the RUU to get back to stock. HTC did us a huge favor with those.
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It's a patch that adds Harmon Kardon sound. Then I incorrectly remembered an app that enables Snapdragon audio (which is far superior to HK sound) but that's not firmware, you just need a rooted phone to be able to drop it into the system folder.
So Im no noob to android nor the rom/rooting crap. But i come from nexus devices and we all know how super simple those are to use and return to stock. I dont understand the HTC crap. I bought this m9 and thought it was going to be dev friendly like nexus's are but I was wrong. This is what I did. Unlocked bootloader, flashed TWRP (and before I made the backup, I set it to r/w) then i made a stock backup that was set on R/W and did some other things like flashing CM etc.. My question is, if i wanted to return to stock and be able to receive OTAs, what must I do. Would downloading a stock nandroid from here be enough or must I run an RUU(which i dont understand). Also, I still have S-ON and have not modified that. If read some guides but Im still confused. Nothing like a nexus. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks (tmobile USA)
bynarie said:
So Im no noob to android nor the rom/rooting crap. But i come from nexus devices and we all know how super simple those are to use and return to stock. I dont understand the HTC crap. I bought this m9 and thought it was going to be dev friendly like nexus's are but I was wrong. This is what I did. Unlocked bootloader, flashed TWRP (and before I made the backup, I set it to r/w) then i made a stock backup that was set on R/W and did some other things like flashing CM etc.. My question is, if i wanted to return to stock and be able to receive OTAs, what must I do. Would downloading a stock nandroid from here be enough or must I run an RUU(which i dont understand). Also, I still have S-ON and have not modified that. If read some guides but Im still confused. Nothing like a nexus. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks (tmobile USA)
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Your best bet is to run the RUU exe from your pc, its very simple and takes about 10 min. It wipes everything and put you back to 100% stock.
it will not change your unlocked bootloader or S-on/S-off. keep in mind since you are S-on you can only use the RUU for the current version that is on your phone, you cant go back to earlier version
you can get the RUU's here
also the get OTA you have to be unrooted, and have stock recovery
Hope this helps
kc6wke said:
Your best bet is to run the RUU exe from your pc, its very simple and takes about 10 min. It wipes everything and put you back to 100% stock.
it will not change your unlocked bootloader or S-on/S-off. keep in mind since you are S-on you can only use the RUU for the current version that is on your phone, you cant go back to earlier version
you can get the RUU's here
also the get OTA you have to be unrooted, and have stock recovery
Hope this helps
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So, if I S-off I can run an RUU for any version, even the newest? And as long as I have stock recovery/unrooted I will be able to get OTA? Its that easy? Thanks for the help