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well Actually am About to get a new phone after 1.5 years using wildfire s my next step will last with me till i graduate maybe like 2 years or 3
so i wanna make sure i get the right phone So which phone do you suggest S3-one-x-Xperia tx -xperia sl?
feel free to talk please and conisder that Xperia Tx will be avilabe in early 2013 maybe new htc or samsung will be there who knows..
hope you try to help me please give a reason for your answer thanks <3
Who is your provider? I'm either getting the optimus g or xperia tl depending on dev support and battery life for the two.
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Depends on what you desire in a phone. LTE, Durability, Design, Support, Custom rom support, Screen resolution/PPI, Battery life etc. etc.
I come from a history of HTC phone and I always liked them because they feel more durable. Also, the dev support is very high on HTC and Samsung. When you go for power, you should definitely look at Samsung S3, HTC One X(+) or the new LG Optimus G. Also, if you're interested in getting the latest Android updates, you should keep an eye on the Google (LG) Nexus 4.
I must say that I took a risk in choosing for Sony. The dev support is relatively low and I didn't like their Q1 2012 models Xperia S, U and P. This because I heard negative stories about the battery life, the outdated hardware, the lack of proper support etc. Yet, I must say that I never had a smartphone that operates this smooth, and the battery life is better than HTC's Q4 2011 phones. I own my phone for a couple of days now and I like it more and more.
When I was in Indonesia this summer, the Acro S caught my eye and I have been looking out for the release of the European brother of that phone: the Sony Xperia V. The specs are promising, I like Sony Timescape (more than for example HTC Sense or Samsung Touchwiz) and it promises to be a solid phone (it should be dust and water resistant).
To summarize it all. Keep a lookout on comparization websites, such as phonearena. You can easily compare up to three phones there.
If you really don't know what to pick, I can only recommend to stick with the Nexus releases. You are interested in Android for some reason
Check out my phone list in signature, I can't wait to get myself this xperia t
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Dev support for samsung (at least on the aosp/cm front) will drop, samsungs ****ing around with sources, broken code and producing a mess in general is driving devs away. HTC is obviously locking bootloaders in its more recent models and is enforcing less dev-friendly techniques, so dev support will remain strong but it wont beas much fun to "work" with as htc used to be. LG produces **** hardware, I heard. And their custom android implementation isnt that shiny either, I heard (lol, I hear a lot, obviously ). Leaves Sony, which is overall well, behaving goog from a dev perspective and the hardware is ok, good even, albeit not highest top tier. In terms of updates theres rom for improvement. So as the ultimate last, a Nexus device. Latest android, always. Excellent dev support. But limited storage and no expansion possibilities. Make your choice.
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As long as your not getting the tl. Att hates its customers right now.
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If you want a more neutral ICS experience with some great Sony add ons (Walkman, etc.) and like the idea of 13MP photos go for the Xperia T.
If you want top spec and more grunt the S3 is a bit more powerful but you get TouchWiz and Samsung's stamp on it all. Also, the S3 has a much richer selection of custom ROMs.
Personally, lack of SD slot would put me off the OneX before I even opened the box.
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LG produces **** hardware, I heard.
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I agreed with almost everything you said but this. I am no expert, but I think the major problem isn't hardware... it's their support / drivers/ software. I owned a G2x, and hardware wise it was a treat. However, it was hampered by the lack of source (which has been rectified in the last week or so I believe) code and the NVIDIA drivers for it. Their latest incarnation, the G, is very nice on paper, but alas, it will likely suffer the same fate, which is why the Nexus 4 looks so tempting. Hell, Google trusts their hardware, they just wanted to make a phone everyone would want AND possibly afford. Unlocked no less!
I have sent my T back for repairs, I had some audio stuff go south. That said, I really like that Sony offers the option to unlock bootloaders. I like the feel of the phone and the speed. HTC burned a bridge with me and my Amaze (also just released source code for their WIFI / BT drivers IIRC), so I went Sony, and am not sorry that I did.
EDIT: Oh yea, and the Sony take on ICS is really quite nice. Not bloated, most of the apps I actually WANT to use, and it's well designed IMHO.
Thx everyone =)
i`ave ordered XPeria Tx =) thats it after i read all your reviews i`m getting sony <3 i dont care much for android updates unless its jellybean =D but its ok
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i`ave ordered XPeria Tx =) thats it after i read all your reviews i`m getting sony <3 i dont care much for android updates unless its jellybean =D but its ok
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No regrets, You have done a good choice, I have TX too, I'm happy with: elegant design, removable battery (very important), SD card slot, good benchmarks, even better compared with phones with quad core processor, a very good 13 Mp camera, easy to unlock, Sony developpers friendly.
Bad: few custom roms, slow process updating, Hope more from developpers.
Previous phones: a lot of Nokia flagships (finished with), and in the last 2 years:Xperia X10, Xperia S and now a beautiful Xperia TX, all unlocked and rooted.
Now got the t, little disappointed with the development level for the phone but the phone it self is ok, not great but ok I guess
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I want this hardware with cm or pure aosp software, and I'd love it if you all could share some of your knowledge:
What are the challenges, obstacles, and chances of cm on this device happening?
I don't know much about Sony and their way of locking or unlocking the bootloader, so what can we expect here?
Codeworkx praise Sony for their recent contribution to the community, can we expect this to continue?
Are there any new proprietary additions to this phone compared to the other xperia line, something new that will prevent cm running smoothly?
How are the free xperia team going with their work?
Please share and enlighten me.
Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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Just wait for FXP http://code.google.com/p/freexperia/
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Cool, but have they succeed with proper ports of cm to xperia, no battery issues, no camera issues, all hardware working properly?
The z has the new "dual camera thingy" (i can't remember what the press release called it) for proper hdr, and considering this is a somewhat new invention, will Sony give out proprietary sources/drivers to create open source versions?
CyanogenMod went well for my arc S, and is coming alon great for my Xperia T.
I can't imagine why the XZ will be any worse.
I think it will actually be better as the XZ will be released on 4.1, with the promise of 4.2 coming soon after.
I can't see poor development being an issue with this device.
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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So exciting! really looking forward!
cant wait to see this phone..also cant wait to see stock Android on this.
Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list
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Hmm, wonder if cm doesn't officially support Sony, that it is only the free xperia TM that does the conversion. But I dunno for sure
Edit: nope, never mind : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title= Devices
A lot of Sony officially supported. I just never read the list
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.
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Fxp are the official maintainers for Sony devices for cm. Once the build is stable it is approved by cm and supported, that's how it works for now.
But I'm guessing it'll change as more people will buy Sony and with more developer support who knows might speed up. For now only 4 people (Fxp) manage over 25 Sony devices to get cyanogenmod on them.
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Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx
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Im not familiar with Sony's dev community, because Xperia Z will be my first Sony's Android phone. Im wondering If Codeworkx get Xperia Z, he will became official maintainer with Fxp for Xperia Z ? Is Codeworkx's CM10 build for Xperia T different to Fxp's CM10 build, or they work together?
Thanx
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Codeworkx is different from Fxp. Anywho Fxp has listed z in its supported devices now on its website so yeah i think you can count them in.
It'll depend on codeworkx if he wants to join Fxp or not. I don't have the Xperia t so can't be sure about what you asked. I'll check the thread out and let you know.
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How's your xperia s running with that rom (assuming you're running cm, aosp, or aosp)?
I'm asking to get an idea of what to expect in terms of cm/aosp on the z.
I looked at a few videos of Sony's 4.1.1 rom on the pre prod models of the z and i was not very impressed with their work.
I "need" to be able to run cm or any aosp rom as soon as it's in my hands. Yea, I know it's a bit stupid then to not buy a nexus, but i want z hardware (and water proof) and expandable memory. Since nexus won't give me that, perhaps Sony can..?
I'm willing to sacrifice some functions, as long as the camera works (don't need effects, just clear pics) and the battery is good. (bravia and stamina can be sacrificed too, as long as cm doesn't drain more than stock sony)
Atm I'm on sgs3 and cm doesn't work very well battery wise (with 6-9% idle drain pr hour) and also too many camera issues. Having to cripple all the "smart" functions of a smartphone to get acceptable battery just doesn't make sense, so please share some of your views on Sony/cm in this regard.
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Oh my version! Well this new group popped up they made cm10.1 for Xperia S can't be used as a daily driver as of now was just testing it they launched it about a week ago still fixing it up . Other than that i am running cm10.
As far as your questions go Sony supports developers! If you want to get cm on your device don't get it from a carrier! Get it unlocked like me unlock the bootloader and start flashing!
Xperia z shares many similarities in hardware with the nexus 4 so I'm guessing that would mean faster development. The only issue I can think of is camera since its a Sony proprietary! Like with the Xperia S. Had to wait till Fxp got a hold of a leaked beta jb driver. Still doesn't support 1080p video. But it works! On the other hand xperia T has full camera I think and cm10.1 is being worked on.
Bottom line you won't get it asap but you'll get it! Cause here is the thing Sony supports developers and stuff but mostly people go out get a Samsung or htc. Maybe that's why development is a bit slow paced.
If I were you I'd wait a month maybe? Just to see how things go over here in the development forum.
Keep visiting xperiablog.com (everything related to xperias)
And also http://freexperiaproject.com
You'll get an idea of how it's going.
Or you could get it play with the stock Sony rom! Till development kicks in Ps you'll fall in love with the media apps I'm telling you!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099499 (here's the rom I'm running right now)
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For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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Bin4ry, perhaps you can share some thoughts on cm on this device: Proprietary camera sensor.., battery workings, bootloader and customization, what to expect..?
Support is one thing, working rom is another. Are there any major issues to be expected, or do you reckon this will be smooth sailing? Also, how are the other sony/xperia devices running with cm now? Any big issues?
Thanks mate
I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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Cyanogen launched M builds, which are most stable builds and a few phones launched them. Do you know what is reason, why M builds aren't available on any Sony phone yet (for example Xperia T) ? I thought M builds will be available on phones, which are easier to develop - for example, Nexus, US SGS3, latest Sony phones etc. Thanx
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I covered this a few weeks ago on Google+, but mainly:
A decision was made to "pull an aries" with CM10.1. That means rebasing as much as possible onto the Mako kernel base, just like the Galaxy S (aries) family device maintainers rebased onto the Nexus S kernel base.
The bad: In the short run, when the effort is underway, the device will appear to be behind others.
The good: Once the effort is complete, it should be MUCH easier to keep the device up to date. See the original Galaxy S (aries) family of devices. You know, "the device that just won't die".
There was a pretty big influx of new developers to the platform a month ago, and some of us are still getting up to speed and learning things. For example, I've been focusing on what could best be described as "polishing" on CM10... Taking those little minor annoyances and squashing them. I'll transition over to 10.1 when I'm done. It's kind of nice that I can actually do something like this... Instead of fighting generic platform brokenness all over, I'm working on polishing up a few very minor annoyances. Seriously, my list of things to work on is "broken scaling of anamorphic videos over HDMI"... That's a lot better than "HDMI no worky" on Samsung Exynos devices.
Bin4ry said:
For you to know.
We work together on the CM trees for Sonydevices with codeworkx. There is no difference between FXP releases and CM releases except the buildserver and the more updated FXP releases, because wr dont push our changes everytime directly to git.
So no difference between codeworkx work and FXP work. We all on the same ship and work TOGETHER on the stuff. Sometimes more sometimes less, because anyone can have private problems or just no time for the hobby.
Dont worry about CM support. We will support any WORLD phone from Sony in CM asap.
Regards
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As I understand it, the FXP builds will sometimes contain things that have yet to be merged into the main CM baseline via Gerrit.
For those coming from Samsung devices that codeworkx or I or any of the other CM people have worked on - Think of it as the difference between nightlies and the occasional experimental "test build" from maintainers. With the main difference being that FXP builds are always built each week whether or not there might actually be a difference.
(Correct me if I'm wrong here please.)
Entropy512 said:
You never know until release what the exact problems with a device are going to be.
That said, given how Sony is diverging less and less from reference sources for various platforms with each generation and the fact that it has the exact same SoC as the Nexus 4 - it's looking VERY promising.
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Exactly, with key lime pie coming up, all we can do is wait
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I'm sure that CM will run on Z pretty much the same as it runs on nexus 4 . Tell you why . The main point is that they use the same SoC , next, quallcom's documentation is open source because Q has a developer friendly policy :thumbup:
Though some hardships might be faced when dealing with telephone part and camera which will obviously need some time to get fully working. However considering the coding level of CM developers I beleive that thet will put things on right places in a couple of builds .
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I'm also absolutely sure it will be smooth as nexus 4
after 3 weeks
We have everything working,... according to changelog...backlight is ok now, even the FMRadio is working now...
So Can we expect made working the last thing - CAMERA ?:victory::good:
PS: i know this is "headshot" question...but i would like to know whether there is some problem and there will be NO camera...or if i just should wait for some weeks ?
Hi guys
I'm currently a owner if an S3 and slightly peed off with the lack of sources, battery life on AOSP and etc.... So is it worth swapping my non dev friendly S3 for the dev friendly Xperia Z?
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Hi guys
I'm currently a owner if an S3 and slightly peed off with the lack of sources, battery life on AOSP and etc.... So is it worth swapping my non dev friendly S3 for the dev friendly Xperia Z?
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Just went from S3 LTE to an Xperia Z and couldn't be happier!
WHAT....... are you crazy. S3 has some of the best development. I don't know what ur talking bout. And if u like the xperia try jovy23's xtremeperia ROM. Its flawless and is as close to xperia as u can get on an S3. Also good on battery.
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Its the i9300 just to be clear... To be fair there is a lot if development but I've tried all the ROMs on the s3 stock and AOSP and stock is well terrible and AOSP isn't great for battery life and still has other issues due to Samsung being tight with their sources
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Cant speak for international S3 but from US S3 to XZ is not a big upgrade if any...
See this is the thing the US S3 is better (development wise) than the international.
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See this is the thing the US S3 is better (development wise) than the international.
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if you looking for developement the XZ is not the place to go...there is like 5 stock rom, 1 kernel, and 5-6 AOSP, AOKP CM10.1 rom...
Get the Xperia Z!
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Upgraded from an S3 to the XZ, only because I managed to drop the S3 and cracked its front glass.
Otherwise, I'd still be happy to stay with the S3.
User experience wise, it's not much different with the XZ, the S3 was fast and quick as well. The increased ppi, you can tell if you look for it..but in reality, it doesn't affect your overall experience very much at all.
The Xperia Z is supposed to be getting stock Android and will be sold in the Google Play Store. That I presume will lead to better development of this phone. :good:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-sony-xperia-z-coming-soon
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The Xperia Z is supposed to be getting stock Android and will be sold in the Google Play Store. That I presume will lead to better development of this phone. :good:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-sony-xperia-z-coming-soon
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anyone pay for that will be a fool, i'm sure sony will charge ridiculous price for it...the Dev can copy the system and post it on here.
That's pretty much what I meant. Our phone will benefit from this...if it happens.
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if you looking for developement the XZ is not the place to go...there is like 5 stock rom, 1 kernel, and 5-6 AOSP, AOKP CM10.1 rom...
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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Agree with you. Owner of a exynos s3 and the major problem is they lie to costumers telling that s3 will be upgraded and are delaying this not to damage s4 sales. S3 is a unfinished phone. Samsung never get this beast to fully working. Lags overall do bad memory management. Even s2 sometimes works better. And if you have the chanxe buy instead a n4.
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I'd love the N4 and I completely understand why the S3 sucks due to sources not being released properly, I've already spoke to codeworx and his answer was "every Sony runs AOSP better"
So I'm going for it!! Good bye S3 and hello XZ
Thanks for your input guys!
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I'd love the N4 and I completely understand why the S3 sucks due to sources not being released properly, I've already spoke to codeworx and his answer was "every Sony runs AOSP better"
So I'm going for it!! Good bye S3 and hello XZ
Thanks for your input guys!
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No worries mate, and welcome to the family! :good:
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As long as there is stable AOSP I am a happy chappy, and this is something that just isn't available for the Galaxy S3, neither I9300 nor I9305, and it literally never will be either. Mark my words. S4? Sure. S3? No. Don't buy an S3 if you are interested in ROM development... unless you are talking about ROM cooking I guess, but that isn't really "development".
Also there are like 2 usable custom kernels for I9300/I9305, neither of which run on AOSP.
While we're on the subject, you'll notice -if you look- that the actual developers that own an Exynos-based S3 all seriously hate it and have vowed not to buy any more pure-Samsung devices because of it. Speak to codeworkx on IRC about it if you're interested in hearing more about why the S3 sucks. Suffice to say that I am certainly not purchasing any more Samsung products without first seeing some sources for the device.
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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Well, we were specifically discussing the international version so I don't really see how a comparison to the US version (which is a completely different device) is useful.
Also K850i was a SonyEricsson device! (very important because Ericsson <3)
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S3 international version may suck but U.S version is hard to beat...its what reviewer classify as an Iphone De-throner... and I was using AOKP on my S3...I still missed my S3. My main developer that I like are Faux and Task 650, any other Developer I am grateful for their work but I wont choose them over the two i have. Simply put they are the best at what they do and they are currently rocking Samsung and Nexus device.
THe only reason I am not using AOKP or CM10.1 on this device because A2DP sounds sucks (little bass or detail in sound, it sound like there is too much mid or treble)...I had to switch back to stock rom, not everything on CM10.1 here is fixed, but I imagine it would be soon, hopefully. again I would not advise anyone to buy this phone again, I gave it a try and I dint like it, never again. I remember using the Sony K850i and that was awesome quality stuff from Sony, I missed that phone too.
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US galaxy s3 is dual core. It never get further oficial 4.2.2. And its slower then exynos.
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US galaxy s3 is dual core. It never get further oficial 4.2.2. And its slower then exynos.
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Krait dual-core, big difference. And yes, it is roughly on par with Exynos S3.
This is a brilliant device. Unfortunately so few development going on...
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This is a brilliant device. Unfortunately so few development going on...
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It is brilliant, so brilliant that I moved to this from my Nexus 4. Sony UI is something I can live with for a very long time due to everything being minimalistic and close to stock but better than stock in every way. If I wanted better development I would move back to Nexus 4 in a heart beat but I don't think I will ever go back to Nexus.
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I agree
Its so bad that this device hasnt got the attention it deserves. I have pm krabbapel and he said he was going to make his carbon rom in the future, and doomlord said he didnt have the device so he wont be developing for it
FXP are already developing an CM rom for the ZR so this is a good start
I do agree even though SONY has its flagship Z1 Z and Z ultra, this is the sleeping giant workhorse that they need to highlight.
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It is brilliant, so brilliant that I moved to this from my Nexus 4. Sony UI is something I can live with for a very long time due to everything being minimalistic and close to stock but better than stock in every way. If I wanted better development I would move back to Nexus 4 in a heart beat but I don't think I will ever go back to Nexus.
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Same here, I came from a Galaxy Nexus (Nexus S, Nexus One, and HTC G1 before that) and although I prefer stock Android, it lacks so many features. I found Sony's UI clean and refreshing without trying too hard. I haven't found a need to root this baby yet. My ZR on 4.1 does way more than my GNexus on 4.3 (minus the root features of course) out of the box. The small apps and killer camera are the icing on the cake. With that said, I like Sony's design and UI that I'm willing to upgrade my nexus 7 to an Xperia Tablet Z in the near future.
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Its so bad that this device hasnt got the attention it deserves. I have pm krabbapel and he said he was going to make his carbon rom in the future, and doomlord said he didnt have the device so he wont be developing for it
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It might be a long shot, but it was successfully done with the Oppo find 5 and the Faux Kernal...(I think!)
What they did was organise a donation fund to get Faux the phone...after that he was happy to develop his kernal for the phone.
Perhaps you could give Doomlord a poke to see if he would be willing to accept such a thing and then ask the ZR community to take part? (Or maybe ask the ZR people first to see if they would do it...then see if Doomlord would accept...)
Random idea, could work...
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It might be a long shot, but it was successfully done with the Oppo find 5 and the Faux Kernal...(I think!)
What they did was organise a donation fund to get Faux the phone...after that he was happy to develop his kernal for the phone.
Perhaps you could give Doomlord a poke to see if he would be willing to accept such a thing and then ask the ZR community to take part? (Or maybe ask the ZR people first to see if they would do it...then see if Doomlord would accept...)
Random idea, could work...
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xperia sp forum members donated funds to doomlord, and he developed for xSP maybe you could ask him first if he's on to the idea
+1.
Nice idea for our future.
I remember DoomLord replied that he probably won't be developing for XZR since he doesn't own the device.
Not sure if donation can help that though...
with such good specs at a low price i dont get why this is a low activity device...:crying:
yeah.. i think we can blame sony itself for this problem... I really like the ZR and I have it now.. been so satisfied with it... but, yeah, too few development.. and it will get only worst because sony will be launching the z1 mini.. which is really comparable to the zr... sony is trying to follow samsung - flooding the market with too many models that are closely similar to one another..
if someone heads up a donation box for Doomlord for him to buy the zr, I would gladly donate 50 dollars...
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I remember DoomLord replied that he probably won't be developing for XZR since he doesn't own the device.
Not sure if donation can help that though...
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well try pm-ing doomlord about "donating" him a phone maybe its okay with him
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with such good specs at a low price i dont get why this is a low activity device...:crying:
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its not available everywhere, if this continues (very few users and low development) the device will end up like the acro S look at the Acro S forums+ the fact that almost no RC or RD or RT are present in XZR forum makes it more likely that development will die after fxp supports ends
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well try pm-ing doomlord about "donating" him a phone maybe its okay with him
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its not available everywhere, if this continues (very few users and low development) the device will end up like the acro S look at the Acro S forums+ the fact that almost no RC or RD or RT are present in XZR forum makes it more likely that development will die after fxp supports ends
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there's 4 page development on Acro S! It's not much but still for a phone that expensive yet doesn't seem to have any great hardware it's quite much developments!
but for this phone that runs smoothly and better comparing to Xperia Z, ZL and has less size and less resolution (about 1/4 times which makes battery run double times) and less mass I think this device get fairly low attention comparing to others!! even for a developer this one must be much more exciting than Xperia Z!
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there's 4 page development on Acro S! It's not much but still for a phone that expensive yet doesn't seem to have any great hardware it's quite much developments!
but for this phone that runs smoothly and better comparing to Xperia Z, ZL and has less size and less resolution (about 1/4 times which makes battery run double times) and less mass I think this device get fairly low attention comparing to others!! even for a developer this one must be much more exciting than Xperia Z!
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sort of, however, sony priced the zr as if a flagship. truth to be told, it's marketed as a flagship in japan (xperia a), and it's no slug. still, with the relatively small price difference between z and zr, it's easy to see why people will get the z instead. the z is also released 6 month earlier.
besides, zr isn't released in as many markets as z.
as i've said before, since zr shares much with z, as long as development for z is there, zr will likely be supported as well, but without a dedicated dev using zr him/herself, it's hard to picture a very good development environment.
unless sony discount the zr significantly very soon. this is likely to continue.
(before you ask, japanese seem to have their own commnity and aren't participating in xda, so their large nos. mean nothing to us)
Why worry.. as long as there is Z development, we can port almost EVERYTHING to ZR (including ROM's an Kernels)
One more reason is that people who do contribute are not thanked properly I think.
totally agree
well i had a few devices before and now i have htc one s S4, galaxy s4, xperia ZR, iphone 5
before xperia ZR between all of my phone i would stand and say htc one s and iphone 5 have best batteries between my devices, between xperia x8, xperia acro S, Xperia go, xperia V, galaxy S3, iphone 5, galaxy s4, but now i can say ZR beat my one S battery and not only on battery it beats the battery on my one s it beats the performance of S4 it beats the options of all of my previous xperia phones, and when it comes to heat it even beats the hell out of my iphone too it hardly produce any heat in my hands specially compared to xperia V and galaxy s4.
this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place? when we had good hardware and sh**** software with cra*** software support we would come here and look for help, but we still have updates and support and this device is almost (not fully) complete it doesnt need overclock it doesnt need more battery saving options it doesnt need so much bug fixes.
the only thing it need is a better front camera which is impossible with firmware and kernels so most of all a few ports and customizations remains which is not totally important right?
when i first had my xperia acro S it didnt have any custom firmware for a very long time the only thing was available = rooting my device! believe me for a very long time it was like this.
so my advice is to take your time guys relax if something came out use it if not dont be disappointed you wont miss so much you still have a great device with so many good things on it.
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this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place?
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I absolutely agree!! Even I found nothing in the kernel to tweak
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well i had a few devices before and now i have htc one s S4, galaxy s4, xperia ZR, iphone 5
before xperia ZR between all of my phone i would stand and say htc one s and iphone 5 have best batteries between my devices, between xperia x8, xperia acro S, Xperia go, xperia V, galaxy S3, iphone 5, galaxy s4, but now i can say ZR beat my one S battery and not only on battery it beats the battery on my one s it beats the performance of S4 it beats the options of all of my previous xperia phones, and when it comes to heat it even beats the hell out of my iphone too it hardly produce any heat in my hands specially compared to xperia V and galaxy s4.
this is an amazing device guys no doubt about it but why were we looking for development in the first place? when we had good hardware and sh**** software with cra*** software support we would come here and look for help, but we still have updates and support and this device is almost (not fully) complete it doesnt need overclock it doesnt need more battery saving options it doesnt need so much bug fixes.
the only thing it need is a better front camera which is impossible with firmware and kernels so most of all a few ports and customizations remains which is not totally important right?
when i first had my xperia acro S it didnt have any custom firmware for a very long time the only thing was available = rooting my device! believe me for a very long time it was like this.
so my advice is to take your time guys relax if something came out use it if not dont be disappointed you wont miss so much you still have a great device with so many good things on it.
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This is EXACTLY why I'm still on locked BL! but anyway our device has lack of roms like Cyanogen Mod, AOSP, PAC MAN, AOSPA (Paranoid) and also bug free miui port! (which I like Pranoid and miui so much) I'm currently working on a port for miui (stock based one) but this is something hard to get! currently I'm getting bootloop at kernel and as I don't want to unlock my bootloader (I love BE2 ) it's really hard to get it booting, and I'm not sure if any developer wants to contribute or if I get any further than this but I'm trying to make it bookable at least
EDIT: good news is I just saw the miui boot screen, bad news is it's not more than 2 sec and still I don't have adb
EDIT: Do you guys have made or downloaded any rom based on stock 4.2.2? would you mind give me updater-script in your zip file /META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script
Thanks
EDIT: another good news is, got logcat ( have permission problems ) it would be great if anyone can give me an updater-script from downloaded or made stock rom (both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 are welcome) please pm me
Android 4.4 Xperia T petitionWe all want to see 4.4 on our loved Xperia T. And maybe this will help us get us so far! I hope to get a lot of support here! From Xperia T users, for Xperia T users!
Petition Here!
Although I appreciate the need for the latest, maybe this is best for a boatloads unlock. You can still put 4.4 on just not stock... Now a bootloader unlock would ve handy
Welp...it looks like tx and v users won't be able to participate...
I kid, I kid
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I signed it and shared the link on a German Android Forum. I hope we will have success.
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Android 4.4 Xperia T petitionWe all want to see 4.4 on our loved Xperia T. And maybe this will help us get us so far! I hope to get a lot of support here! From Xperia T users, for Xperia T users!
Petition Here!
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Can you at least wait until Sony say something? What's the big rush?
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randymess said:
Can you at least wait until Sony say something? What's the big rush?
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Exactly!!!! What's the BIg rush? There are chances that it will be updated to 4.4. This is because it's being looked into as shown on the device's page. You are rather going to piss the Sony devs up. Patience is a great virtue one must learn to exercise.
Yea! I don't understand why are so despered to receive 4.4 when we haven't even received 4.3.
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Nevermind, Give us 4.3 first!
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Please dont do something stupid. Just keep calm and be patient.
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Nevermind, Give us 4.3 first!
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Yes!I scare sony will troll all xperia T's User.....No 4.3 for sony T
Plz, stop this madness. Let's wait at least until December 30. Oh my god!
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Look, it is not about the rush, it's about showing Sony that there are a lot of people that would love to see it happen. See it as a support for the devs hard work. And better now than after they say "No 4.4 for the Xperia T" cause once a case is closed, it stays closed.
See it as support guys.
i think its best no one signs that petition. Put yourself in Sony's shoes. They are preparing updates and pushing updates to lots of devices within a few months. We are all anxious and getting tired of waiting but a petition for 4.4 when its already being looked into is a bit childish and unnecessary. its jeopardizing things for us. Would have been better if it was a petition to AT&T for bootloader unlock.
Keep Calm and Wait for KitKat
Why would Sony want to release yet another Android update after 4.3 for the Xperia T? The phone is over a year old now and Sony are pushing their Z range, so they're not going to put any development work into anything but bug fixes really.
What would be the benefit to them as a business? Answer probably very little if any.
I've been hearing the same demands on here since the X10i was released! The fact of the matter its unlikely most handsets will see more than 2 releases of Android.
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Why would Sony want to release yet another Android update after 4.3 for the Xperia T? The phone is over a year old now and Sony are pushing their Z range, so they're not going to put any development work into anything but bug fixes really.
What would be the benefit to them as a business? Answer probably very little if any.
I've been hearing the same demands on here since the X10i was released! The fact of the matter its unlikely most handsets will see more than 2 releases of Android.
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Cause Sony Just Released One Update for this series (4.1)
I Think at least it Should Release 3 big Update For These Phones same as SP
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Why would Sony want to release yet another Android update after 4.3 for the Xperia T? The phone is over a year old now and Sony are pushing their Z range, so they're not going to put any development work into anything but bug fixes really.
What would be the benefit to them as a business? Answer probably very little if any.
I've been hearing the same demands on here since the X10i was released! The fact of the matter its unlikely most handsets will see more than 2 releases of Android.
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The benefit of releasing new versions of Android is getting users happy. Why people buy a nexus device? Mostly because that device is going to have guaranteed updates for at least 18 months.
If Sony (put here any other brand) would have a similar update policy many users will think on buying a Sony device, so Sony would sell more devices and have more profit.
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Selling more doesn't mean more profit. Developing an update is very time consuming as we've seen and with that it will also cost Sony a lot of money. If it is even profitable to update the T to kitkat I doubt it would be noteworthy.
I would love to see 4.4 on the T because I have to go another year with this phone but I would understand Sony if they don't update our phones.
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