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Anyone know if there are any manufacturers out there who are in the process of creating a Microsoft Surface style keyboard for the Nexus 7? I'm looking for something with as thin a profile as possible.. preferably, it would replace the Poetic smart cover case I have now. I hate bulk.
Nope, but it would be nice to have if they work well.
Nobody will ever make a cover like that for a 7" tablet because it would suck. Nobody over the age of 15 have hands small enough to operate a keyboard the width of a Nexus 7 with any efficiency and if its not an efficient means of input its a waste of money.
What rot! we use the onscreen keyboard easily enough though it's not the best thing and a physical keyboard is bound to be better especially if it's well made.
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What rot! we use the onscreen keyboard easily enough though it's not the best thing and a physical keyboard is bound to be better especially if it's well made.
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we use the onscreen keyboard with thumbs or one hand. are you going to use a physical keyboard with thumbs or one hand? even if you are willing i can not see a large enough group willing to do that for a company to spend the money in developing that small of a keyboard. especially a well made keyboard
I'm over the age of 15 and I've got tiny hands. Wish there was some kind of surface-like keyboard available, because I'd certainly make use of it.
Too bad the small-handed market isn't bigger, because nobody ever makes things with us in mind. Trying to find adult gloves that fit is a nightmare!
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JediMasterASD said:
Nobody will ever make a cover like that for a 7" tablet because it would suck. Nobody over the age of 15 have hands small enough to operate a keyboard the width of a Nexus 7 with any efficiency and if its not an efficient means of input its a waste of money.
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Lol guess the we aren't using the on screen keyboards then cause of the size
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BrianDigital said:
Lol guess the we aren't using the on screen keyboards then cause of the size
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I just placed my N7 up to my keyboard and all the letters would fit, I tiny bit of resizing would be needed to fit in punctuation but a good design could definately be practical at this size.
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I've used this with another tablet- it was perfectly serviceable, if a bit bulky. So it's completely doable, and the "no one will ever make a cover like that because it would suck" comment made me smile.
The comments that it would be too small for anyone to use tend to irritate me too. People claimed the galaxy note and even many of the original 4" androids were too big to operate one-handed and that they would suck as phones. Yet even with a 5.3" screen the note is can be used one-handed fairly easily. It isn't as comfortable to do so as a 4.3-4.7" range phone but it is still perfectly functional.
The same goes for keyboards on 7" tablets. They aren't as comfortable as full sized ones but they are still very convenient at times and add to the functionality of the tablet. I had a similar cover to Radon_22 for my original galaxy tab and found it very useful. I'm a former competitive heavyweight judoka and powerlifter so I don't exactly have small gentle hands yet it only took a few days of practice for me to adjust to typing on a small keyboard. I've also used some of the older Japanese produced 5-7" UMPC's and they were fine for me with some practice. I had to modify my touch typing style but once I adjusted my typing speed for documents was much better than on the on-screen keyboard. The main issue I had with the keyboard was the bulk it added; I only needed the keyboard in specific situations (documents, note taking, gaming) and being a cheap product the leather case and rubber keys were quite bulky. Secondly the quality and responsiveness of the keys was an issue; I've played around with the xperia tablet's surface-style capacitive keyboard cover and it performed far better than my old tab case.
One final point regarding the size; A lot of people actually do type on the nexus 7 in landscape mode which is far smaller than a 7" physical keyboard. I find thumb typing in portrait to be the most comfortable and accurate but during meetings I often find myself taking notes in landscape mode and I can actually type quite fast like that. The main issue is mi****ting keys (especially delete and the spacebar) during touch typing which is an issue with 10" tablets too. Having a compact physical keyboard that is always on the tablet would be a huge benefit for my work.
Radon_22 said:
I've used this with another tablet- it was perfectly serviceable, if a bit bulky. So it's completely doable, and the "no one will ever make a cover like that because it would suck" comment made me smile.
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That's the Minisuit Nexus 7 model. Available on Amazon for $30 with free shipping (prime). They also make the model that was referred to as the "Aluminum" one.
May try it.
http://www.amazon.com/MiniSuit-Blue...972424&sr=1-2&keywords=minisuit+keyboard+case
I have never had any problem using the on-screen keyboard on my Nexus 7 in landscape mode. In any case the fact that surface-style keyboard would effectively make use of the same area as the entire Nexus 7 screen would surely make it even more usable!
I would love a surface-style keyboard :good:
Melarsa said:
I'm over the age of 15 and I've got tiny hands. Wish there was some kind of surface-like keyboard available, because I'd certainly make use of it.
Too bad the small-handed market isn't bigger, because nobody ever makes things with us in mind. Trying to find adult gloves that fit is a nightmare!
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I don't really know what is meant by a "Surface style keyboard". But if all you are looking for is a "pocket size" keyboard, there are plenty of them on eBay.
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I don't really know what is meant by a "Surface style keyboard". But if all you are looking for is a "pocket size" keyboard, there are plenty of them on eBay.
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I believe the idea is a keyboard with flat keys so that it can flip over and serve as a cover for the tablet.
This comes close but only for the iPad just now. http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/fabricskin-keyboard-folio
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This comes close but only for the iPad just now. http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/fabricskin-keyboard-folio
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That is pretty nice.
I think ultimately, the issue comes down to size. I've got the aluminum style keyboard/cover for my Nexus 7 now, and while it works somewhat well, I will never be able to type as fast on it as I do on a regular sized-keyboard. Manufacturers are aware of this, so there's not much of an initiative to design a flat-style keyboard for the 7" tablet market.. this is the best option for a mobile, full-sized keyboard: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Bluetooth-Compact-Wireless-Keyboard/dp/B005SIKYUK
That's a windows keyboard though. Logitech also make a similar one and there's a Motorola keyboard around that's the same and pretty cheap on eBay.
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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Khomo Keyboard Case
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I purchased the Khomo keyboard case and I was going to return it. They actually gave it to me half off to review it so it cost me like $17. I can tell you the build quality is pretty nice along with its look but, it has some stability issues. The keyboard was terrible since I had already purchased the zagg flex keyboard/stand. After using zaggs keyboard the khomo keyboard pales in comparison to the functionality of what the zagg keyboard offers. These are tablets not laptops and the keyboard should be designed with that in mind. The screen on/off function works as it is supposed to when closed and opened. Also I noticed that it was hard to close fully. The magnetic area had to be pulled tightly to align with the other magnets for it to close securely. It closes easily without the nexus 10 inside but with it the added depth just causes it to take a little more effort than what should be needed to fully close it. The keyboard is removable and bluetooth connectivity worked as it should with no issues. I guess it may be a good deal for some but after using the Zagg Flex Keyboard I would easily recommend it even without it being a case over the Khomo. I got the Zagg for $37 and made a thread a while back of where to find it if still available at that price. If requested I can still upload the first reaction video I made of it to youtube.
Also rotation to portrait is iffy because you cannot get it in a position I would deem useful. If I want portrait I pretty much want it standin straight not at an angle. Videos are uploading though for those who may want to look at it. Thanks to Khomo for the discount and support them. They may produce better designs after a few drafts.
Thanks momulah.. it seems like the khomo has the same removable keyboard as the 3 other ones I linked.
What problems are you having with the keyboard? Just the F keys or are there other issues?
Which ZAGG keyboard by the way? It seems like they have several, ranging from $70-$100+ and they look possibly less portable?
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Royal2000H said:
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Here's a link to a review, the first link on google when I searched for k810: PC mag review
They gave it a great review, thanks for the suggestion It looks really nice, I personally love chiclet keys, and illuminated keys make a big difference.
But still, I feel like having mouse input would be incredibly helpful, especially if it supports gestures.
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Komodo Rogue said:
I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
tct08 said:
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Thanks for your post!
Interestingly enough, your Poetic case looks like it has a small hole for the notification light. Maybe the Amazon picture is wrong.
I rarely (if ever) use the right shift key, so that's not an issue for me. But the squeezing of the home key to the left of the enter key is really an odd design decision! I use Home & End a lot on my laptop, so it's nice that the keyboard includes them (usually they're first to be left off!) but the placement is indeed questionable.
Clearly it's a generic keyboard due to the odd F key layout. Who needs F1-12 keys on an Android-specific keyboard? I just wonder if there's a way to hack the firmware or maybe even something on the tablet side to reverse the need to press the Fn key. Seems like it would be a nice project, but I'm not sure I have the time for it.
@Komodo - I agree that all keyboard cases are going to be bulkier. I do already have a normal case, so I think I would just switch off between keyboard case and the normal one depending on my needs for that day. So that being said, for my uses, a slim/portable keyboard is more useful.
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA. But I bought it for my laptop when doubling as a HTPC.
I don't see the point in a touch pad. far easier to touch the screen, I prefer a mouse over touchpad too.
I just ordered the iHome Universal Bluetooth Keyboard then I can have the option to use an usb sd card or a mouse simultaneously. I think staying with bluetooth is a better way to go.
Use code A4C5OFF and standard shipping, $2, for a $24.75 out the door price.
For me, a keyboard is a seldom used item with a tablet. It was hard to find reviews for it but at more than half the price of the logitech android keyboard, why not?
I wonder if this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper will solve the problem with having to press fn + function-key to use the android specific keys?
It was recommended for a different keyboard in another thread. Anyone with the khomo/poetic/etc keyboard able to test? The app description said there is a demo too.
Icyman said:
I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA.
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
Was anyone able to try the app to see if it can improve the keyboard?
Maybe momulah or tct08 or Komodo Rogue ?
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
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I've read that the K400 keyboard is supported by version 4.3 and later.
hi,
Looking to purchase a wireless keyboard from the US and was wondering if you guys could recomend any.
Regards,
Dark Passenger
Okay so no suggestions even or any recomendations seems no one uses a keyboard with manta
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Okay so no suggestions even or any recomendations seems no one uses a keyboard with manta
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I use a keyboard when I have to work remotely on my tablet. This is the one I use: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BKW2410/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. The build quality is superb, and the small size makes for good portability. It doesn't have a slot to stand the tablet in though. However, that's fine with me because I don't need one, as my Poetic Slimline case stands up my N10 nicely.
I use this keyboard:
http://amzn.com/B009JPBPWO
and this mouse:
http://amzn.com/B008OEHV6U
both work great with the Nexus 10, and the keyboard cover turns into a tablet stand
Do both Bluetooth devices work properly at the same time?
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I use this keyboard:
http://amzn.com/B009JPBPWO
and this mouse:
http://amzn.com/B008OEHV6U
both work great with the Nexus 10, and the keyboard cover turns into a tablet stand
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Have you ruled out those folio cases? They have stands in them sometimes
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Do both Bluetooth devices work properly at the same time?
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Once in a while , keyboard input stalls for a second to two, but catches right up. Annoying, but bearable to me.
I am using Logitech K400 keyboard with built-In touchpad mouse and it work great.
I just started using a Bluetooth Perixx Perrido-880 with built in track pad and stand and which works very well with my N10. It is cheaper than other solutions around $50 Canadian on Amazon.ca with free shipping. Although a number of the function keys only work with Win 8 tablets I keep discovering things that work which I never expected due to the limited user manual. For example ALT-Tab to move between apps or two finger scrolling on the track pad. It also integrates well with Swift-key which automatically used the keyboard including support for auto-spell correction and word completion when you hit the space bar.
The origami stand/cover can be flipped backwards so props up the keyboard when I'm in a recliner (on my legs), that was unexpected. I already have my N10 being held in a DIY airholder so balcony tablet productivity fits lazy summer reclining.
My goal is to see if I can program remotely from the balcony. I'm starting with VNC to my Linux desktop, Jotta+ Pro (programming editor) but still need to refine the set up as I only got the keyboard 2 days ago. At this point I'm very pleased with the keyboard / track pad combo.
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PaisanNYC said:
I use this keyboard:
http://amzn.com/B009JPBPWO
and this mouse:
http://amzn.com/B008OEHV6U
both work great with the Nexus 10, and the keyboard cover turns into a tablet stand
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thanks finally bought this keyboard
Hi,
I know it's early days but does anyone know of any slim / low profile cases for the new Galaxy Tab S6? With or without a screen flap. I like the look of the official Folio Case but unsure if it will fall out of the magnets and also what the price will be in the UK. Yet to see anywhere to preorder the standard case.
Thanks
Ordering the Tab S6 with Samsung case and keyboard gives you a discount of £100. So could be something to consider.
Anyone know where I can get the rose blush keyboard case? It's only the grey available to pre order
I've ordered the book cover case but it seems it hasn't been released yet so I'm rolling with a sleeve cover for the time being! Does anyone know when they will hit the UK?
I have this tablet with the official keyboard case. While I'm still getting used to it I am currently very happy with it. The keyboard/front cover holds on very firmly despite being held by magnets and the back is very firmly attached. The comfort of the keyboard for typing is remarkable and the keyboard allows use of the tablet in DEX mode. I thoroughly recommend it.
blueskies1977 said:
I have this tablet with the official keyboard case. While I'm still getting used to it I am currently very happy with it. The keyboard/front cover holds on very firmly despite being held by magnets and the back is very firmly attached. The comfort of the keyboard for typing is remarkable and the keyboard allows use of the tablet in DEX mode. I thoroughly recommend it.
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The official keyboard cover looks pretty great indeed. One thing I'm wondering is whether the keys are still active when the keyboard is folded back, leading to involuntary key presses when you hold the tablet like that. Also, how much thickness and weight does it add? I wasn't happy at all with the Tab s4 keyboard cover (as compared with the Tab S3) because it makes the whole thing very bulky.
gmpx said:
The official keyboard cover looks pretty great indeed. One thing I'm wondering is whether the keys are still active when the keyboard is folded back, leading to involuntary key presses when you hold the tablet like that. Also, how much thickness and weight does it add? I wasn't happy at all with the Tab s4 keyboard cover (as compared with the Tab S3) because it makes the whole thing very bulky.
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I saw in a YouTube video that there is no problem when the case is folded back the keys are not an issue
craigels said:
I saw in a YouTube video that there is no problem when the case is folded back the keys are not an issue
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I have the book cover case and can confirm the keyboard buttons don't appear to work if the keyboard is folded back BUT the on-screen keyboard doesn't open up either which is less than ideal.
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I have the book cover case and can confirm the keyboard buttons don't appear to work if the keyboard is folded back BUT the on-screen keyboard doesn't open up either which is less than ideal.
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And this is the real shame with Samsung and Android tablets in general... can you ever imagine Apple making such a basic error?
I LOVE android tablets.... but man, there is ALWAYS something that we need to compromise on... even when spending $1100 (AUS) .... get mine in the mail tomorrow... and am still weighing up teh $200 for this keyboard / case.
So Yes it's stupid mistake, less of an issue for me because I always use dex mode with the keyboard and the onscreen keyboard can be brought up in dex mode.
When you compare to Ipad keep in mind that you can't even get a keyboard with a touchpad on it for Ipad since there is ZERO mouse support in IOS due to apple stubborness. Also no Dex, thus no dex on windows which I am using to type this right now.
You compromise no matter what you buy. If you like the android ecosystem then the android compromises are worth it, if you like the IOS ecosystem then the apple compromises are worth it. I have android(Note 10+) phone and like to share everything with my tablet therefor Ipad is a non starter.
Yes I know dex on windows is my note 10 feature, but just more arguments for the single platform.
I have the official non keyboard bookcase and can say that the magnet is really strong and the tablet doesn't fall out of the case like my old tab S3 used to.
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So Yes it's stupid mistake, less of an issue for me because I always use dex mode with the keyboard and the onscreen keyboard can be brought up in dex mode.
When you compare to Ipad keep in mind that you can't even get a keyboard with a touchpad on it for Ipad since there is ZERO mouse support in IOS due to apple stubborness. Also no Dex, thus no dex on windows which I am using to type this right now.
You compromise no matter what you buy. If you like the android ecosystem then the android compromises are worth it, if you like the IOS ecosystem then the apple compromises are worth it. I have android(Note 10+) phone and like to share everything with my tablet therefor Ipad is a non starter.
Yes I know dex on windows is my note 10 feature, but just more arguments for the single platform.
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Yeah agree - totally prefer android over iOS .... It's just that Apples hardware / software combo works so well as they intend...even if that is so locked down as to be painful... They get the small things right.... Where as as good as Samsung ( and all other android OEMs ) is, it's those little bits of detail in their software that can let them down...
I see Poetic just announced their rubberize case for the tab s6. I have the one for the s4 and love it. I really like what they are doing with this one to augment the pen holder.
https://www.poeticcases.com/collect...s/turtle-skin-2019-samsung-galaxy-tab-s6-case
The Samsung keyboard is just a horrible design. The keyboard itself has a nice feel, but the way it attaches to the tablet and that backing that attaches to the tablet, it's just an accident waiting to happen. Mine was so glued to the back of my tablet I though I was going to bend the tablet getting it removed and in the end I had to use a plastic guitar pick to work it apart.
So I found this aftermarket keyboard (and case) on Amazon today:
https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Touchpad-Detachable-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B07X3D5H4R
Looks ideal to me. Going to take Samsung's keyboard back today.
I also picked up this case:
https://www.amazon.com/Infiland-Multiple-Samsung-SM-T860-Charging/dp/B07X1J2Y5Q/
I'm very pleased with it. I like that it folds over the end. A lot like the original Galaxy Tab S case that I had and that I really liked. Except this one protects the tablets edges and corners better.
I had one of those for the s3, the issue though they are nice keyboards is the battery doesn't last unless you turn it off constantly when not in use and you need to charge separately. With the s6 I want something that keeps the s-pen in place as well and all these cases rely on the magnet(poor design from samsung). I like the back kickstand piece, tho I agree the keyboard should have better attachments(better magnets and and a snap).
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Hi ChrisDos
If you have already bought the keyboard case with touchpad, kindly share your feedback on the same. Planning to buy one to go with my tab s6.
ChrisDos said:
The Samsung keyboard is just a horrible design. The keyboard itself has a nice feel, but the way it attaches to the tablet and that backing that attaches to the tablet, it's just an accident waiting to happen. Mine was so glued to the back of my tablet I though I was going to bend the tablet getting it removed and in the end I had to use a plastic guitar pick to work it apart.
So I found this aftermarket keyboard (and case) on Amazon today:
https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Touchpad-Detachable-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B07X3D5H4R
Looks ideal to me. Going to take Samsung's keyboard back today.
I also picked up this case:
https://www.amazon.com/Infiland-Multiple-Samsung-SM-T860-Charging/dp/B07X1J2Y5Q/
I'm very pleased with it. I like that it folds over the end. A lot like the original Galaxy Tab S case that I had and that I really liked. Except this one protects the tablets edges and corners better.
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I actually came here to ask about that exact keyboard case. I also have the OEM Samsung keyboard case, and I actually like it (I'm using it to type on right now), but want some options with different style cases, since the OEM case isn't very protective, and I just like to switch it up every once in a while. Also the flexibility to move the keyboard away from the screen when I type would be nice sometimes, and i can use it with other bluetooth devices, such as my Note 10+ when I'm using DeX.
And yes, the OEM case is stuck on almost too well. Others complained about it not sticking...well, after about a day, I noticed it was just SLIGHTLY off center with the camera lens. It didn't hurt anything, but my OCD kicked. Holy shirt, I almost broke the hinge prying it off. I actually heard the hinge pop, and thought I had just broken my $180 case.
How do you like the aftermarket keyboard and case? How does the typing and the trackpad compare to the samsung version? Any complaints?
The only thing I think I would miss would be the kickstand from the Samsung case. I'm a police officer and can actually hang the tablet from my steering wheel with the Samsung kickstand and type reports (obviously not while I'm driving, LOL). I also use it as kind of a handle to hold the tablet in portrait mode when writing notes with the S-Pen or just surfing the internet.
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I actually came here to ask about that exact keyboard case. I also have the OEM Samsung keyboard case, and I actually like it (I'm using it to type on right now), but want some options with different style cases, since the OEM case isn't very protective, and I just like to switch it up every once in a while. Also the flexibility to move the keyboard away from the screen when I type would be nice sometimes, and i can use it with other bluetooth devices, such as my Note 10+ when I'm using DeX.
And yes, the OEM case is stuck on almost too well. Others complained about it not sticking...well, after about a day, I noticed it was just SLIGHTLY off center with the camera lens. It didn't hurt anything, but my OCD kicked. Holy shirt, I almost broke the hinge prying it off. I actually heard the hinge pop, and thought I had just broken my $180 case.
How do you like the aftermarket keyboard and case? How does the typing and the trackpad compare to the samsung version? Any complaints?
The only thing I think I would miss would be the kickstand from the Samsung case. I'm a police officer and can actually hang the tablet from my steering wheel with the Samsung kickstand and type reports (obviously not while I'm driving, LOL). I also use it as kind of a handle to hold the tablet in portrait mode when writing notes with the S-Pen or just surfing the internet.
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First, thanks for being a first responder. Not enough people appreciate how hard your job is. Thank you.
As for the keyboard, I've very happy with it. Actually has a better typing experience than the Samsung keyboard. The keys have a scissor switch underneath. I found the case a bit too thick with the keyboard in there, but it was very well protected and there was a good gap to protect the screen. I'm carrying a USB-C to USB-C cable with me and I can use it to charge the keyboard from the tablet if necessary. Only down side to the keyboard is mine has a slight twist in it because it is so thin and it's made of plastic. Does not affect typing for me at all.
Since the keyboard can be separate from case, I'm actually using this case with the keyboard:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X1J2Y5Q
There is enough room with the case for it to lay flat and for me to type just fine.
Over all, I much prefer this setup over the Samsung design.
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First, thanks for being a first responder. Not enough people appreciate how hard your job is. Thank you.
As for the keyboard, I've very happy with it. Actually has a better typing experience than the Samsung keyboard. The keys have a scissor switch underneath. I found the case a bit too thick with the keyboard in there, but it was very well protected and there was a good gap to protect the screen. I'm carrying a USB-C to USB-C cable with me and I can use it to charge the keyboard from the tablet if necessary. Only down side to the keyboard is mine has a slight twist in it because it is so thin and it's made of plastic. Does not affect typing for me at all.
Since the keyboard can be separate from case, I'm actually using this case with the keyboard:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X1J2Y5Q
There is enough room with the case for it to lay flat and for me to type just fine.
Over all, I much prefer this setup over the Samsung design.
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Thank you, I appreciate that.
I was actually considering that same idea...USB C to USB C to charge the keyboard on the go when needed. The Tab S6 battery is big enough, I don't think it would greatly impact battery life for me.
And I actually have that same Infiniland case. Bought it as a temporary solution to protect the tablet until the keyboard case arrived (though as i said, it doesn't really offer much protection).
I think you've convinced me to pull the trigger. Now...black or grey...Hmmm....
ChrisDos said:
The Samsung keyboard is just a horrible design. The keyboard itself has a nice feel, but the way it attaches to the tablet and that backing that attaches to the tablet, it's just an accident waiting to happen. Mine was so glued to the back of my tablet I though I was going to bend the tablet getting it removed and in the end I had to use a plastic guitar pick to work it apart.
So I found this aftermarket keyboard (and case) on Amazon today:
https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Touchpad-Detachable-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B07X3D5H4R
Looks ideal to me. Going to take Samsung's keyboard back today.
I also picked up this case:
https://www.amazon.com/Infiland-Multiple-Samsung-SM-T860-Charging/dp/B07X1J2Y5Q/
I'm very pleased with it. I like that it folds over the end. A lot like the original Galaxy Tab S case that I had and that I really liked. Except this one protects the tablets edges and corners better.
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Just wondering if this keyboard has the Dex button for when you use Dex? If not how is it launched...Just by hitting the icon on the screen?
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Just wondering if this keyboard has the Dex button for when you use Dex? If not how is it launched...Just by hitting the icon on the screen?
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There is no button for Dex on the keyboard. I just touch/click the icon on the screen. I think it's also possible to have Dex launch on it's own once it detects the physical keyboard as I think I remember turning on that option in the Dex settings.
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There is no button for Dex on the keyboard. I just touch/click the icon on the screen. I think it's also possible to have Dex launch on it's own once it detects the physical keyboard as I think I remember turning on that option in the Dex settings.
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That works for me...Thanks!
ChrisDos said:
The Samsung keyboard is just a horrible design. The keyboard itself has a nice feel, but the way it attaches to the tablet and that backing that attaches to the tablet, it's just an accident waiting to happen. Mine was so glued to the back of my tablet I though I was going to bend the tablet getting it removed and in the end I had to use a plastic guitar pick to work it apart.
So I found this aftermarket keyboard (and case) on Amazon today:
https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Touchpad-Detachable-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B07X3D5H4R
Looks ideal to me. Going to take Samsung's keyboard back today.
I also picked up this case:
https://www.amazon.com/Infiland-Multiple-Samsung-SM-T860-Charging/dp/B07X1J2Y5Q/
I'm very pleased with it. I like that it folds over the end. A lot like the original Galaxy Tab S case that I had and that I really liked. Except this one protects the tablets edges and corners better.
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So I want the "case" half of the keyboard case. I won't use the keyboard at all. I also don't have an issue where I'd need to protect the screen. The reason I want that case part 8s because of the angles we can have the tablet, could you tell me how well that kick stand works? Thanks mate
le0.br4zuc4 said:
So I want the "case" half of the keyboard case. I won't use the keyboard at all. I also don't have an issue where I'd need to protect the screen. The reason I want that case part 8s because of the angles we can have the tablet, could you tell me how well that kick stand works? Thanks mate
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Each case is similar. The keyboard case though has a few slots it more or less wants to be put in. The Infinland case has grippy feet on the bottom to let you put it at many angles.
Have you noticed any issues with the S Pen while using this case? It seems like all the other third party keyboard cases I've seen have magnets in them that can pull the pen a little in certain spots.
ChrisDos said:
The Samsung keyboard is just a horrible design. The keyboard itself has a nice feel, but the way it attaches to the tablet and that backing that attaches to the tablet, it's just an accident waiting to happen. Mine was so glued to the back of my tablet I though I was going to bend the tablet getting it removed and in the end I had to use a plastic guitar pick to work it apart.
So I found this aftermarket keyboard (and case) on Amazon today:
https://www.amazon.com/Keyboard-Touchpad-Detachable-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B07X3D5H4R
Looks ideal to me. Going to take Samsung's keyboard back today.
I also picked up this case:
https://www.amazon.com/Infiland-Multiple-Samsung-SM-T860-Charging/dp/B07X1J2Y5Q/
I'm very pleased with it. I like that it folds over the end. A lot like the original Galaxy Tab S case that I had and that I really liked. Except this one protects the tablets edges and corners better.
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that kb case looks nice but i cant see a couple things mentioned about it, 1 how does it charge, is it micro or usbc? are the key back lit at all, if so what control is there and are they rgb?
Samsung's Keyboards are terrible and over priced. When I got my Tabs4 this is what I did. Got The Samsung Book Cover without Keyboard. Then I bought an Illuminated Logitech Keyboard and Mouse which have been excellent. Both are Bluetooth and have no problems. Got my S6 coming in tomorrow and planning on using Keyboard and Mouse with that as well. Both can control up to 3 devices.
Logitech K810 Illuminated Keyboard
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/bluetooth-illuminated-keyboard-k810?crid=27
Logitech MX Anywhere 2S Mouse
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mx-anywhere-2s-flow?crid=7
mark2410 said:
that kb case looks nice but i cant see a couple things mentioned about it, 1 how does it charge, is it micro or usbc? are the key back lit at all, if so what control is there and are they rgb?
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Think it's charged by microusb (looks like a keyboard I already have and think I see a microusb port at the side bottom right). No backlit from what I can see....
Paul_Deemer said:
Samsung's Keyboards are terrible and over priced. When I got my Tabs4 this is what I did. Got The Samsung Book Cover without Keyboard. Then I bought an Illuminated Logitech Keyboard and Mouse which have been excellent. Both are Bluetooth and have no problems. Got my S6 coming in tomorrow and planning on using Keyboard and Mouse with that as well. Both can control up to 3 devices.
Logitech K800 Illuminated Keybpard
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/bluetooth-illuminated-keyboard-k810?crid=27
Logitech MX Anywhere 2S Mouse
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mx-anywhere-2s-flow?crid=7
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Well, the big advantage of the samsung keyboard cover is the integrated keyboard solution... I don't want to run around with 3 seperate items . I do find it to work pretty decent and pleasantly...
Do agree it;s (way) overpriced though. Then again, spending even more on those seperate devices doesn't sound like the greatest solution for me...
Yeah I guess it depends what you use it for. I don't have a computer anymore so In the Morning I surf the Web and it really nice to have the seperate keyboard and mouse. And they can hold a charge for a week or two depending how how much you use em. Then when I go to work I just take the Tab so I can watch Football and Movies.
But really that keyboard is only a little bit wider than the tablet. It's not a full size keyboard but it's much nicer to type on. Just sharing my experience and what I use. Everyone will be different.
mark2410 said:
that kb case looks nice but i cant see a couple things mentioned about it, 1 how does it charge, is it micro or usbc? are the key back lit at all, if so what control is there and are they rgb?
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It charges with a USB-C cable. Keys are not back lit.
I've bought one off of eBay for £20 - I only got it today, so haven't had a lot of time to test it out, but it does seem pretty good. For £20 I thought I couldn't go to wrong. The only problem I've noticed so far is some of the special characters aren't where they should be, but that's not particulary a deal breaker for me. The backlight is pretty cool on it too and the case is perfect for what I needed really. Link below is anyone is interested.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-Sams...=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&
There is a lot of hyperbole going on in this thread IMO.
I find the OEM keyboard has the following advantages:
(1) the physical connection via pogo pins allows instant response without worry about bluetooth sleep feature timeouts. For me this is a huge advantage over every bluetooth anything I have ever used.
(2) the kick stand is very dependable if you attach it correctly and the ability to keep the kickstand while also removing the keyboard is aces.
The OEM keyboard has the following disadvantages:
(1) The trackpad does not recognize a light double-tap as being a touch+drag the way a PC trackpad usually would. So resizing windows and dragging +dropping is awkward and best relegated to the touch screen (or an actual mouse).
(2) The number row is the wrong size.
(3) The arrow keys should be an inverted T and they are not.
Otherwise it is fine. Expensive for something which is only fine but I seriously cannot stress how much better the pogo pin connection is compared to bluetooth. Your mileage may vary but this keyboard IMO is fine and does improve the tablet experience.
anyone ever tried this case/kb? https://www.logitech.com/en-roeu/product/ultrathin-keyboard-folio-galaxy-tab4-10?crid=1221
im guesing it doesnt fit but looks great, or maybe they are doing an s6 version?