I was thinking it might be worth getting an i9305 because of the extra RAM it holds, with the addition of 4g the I9305 should last longer or be more future proof. But I realize the user base is significantly smaller than the I9100. As a cyanogenmod enthusiast I'm concerned the s3 LTE will have less dev support and thus be less future proof than the more popular 3g variant.
Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
The I9300 only has about 100-200mb of free ram even with nothing but aosp rom. Of course its still smooth and stable but Id imagine having 2gb would ensure Android 5.0 and cm11 upgrades to not be a problem.
Is there much difference between the I9305 and i9300 ROMs? Can the I9300 ROMs work on or easily be modified to support I9305?
What do you think, please put my mind at ease. The price difference isn't much so I'd go for the I9305 as long as it gets CyanogenMod support as long as the I9300
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jamesyb0i said:
I was thinking it might be worth getting an i9305 because of the extra RAM it holds, with the addition of 4g the I9305 should last longer or be more future proof. But I realize the user base is significantly smaller than the I9100. As a cyanogenmod enthusiast I'm concerned the s3 LTE will have less dev support and thus be less future proof than the more popular 3g variant.
Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
The I9300 only has about 100-200mb of free ram even with nothing but aosp rom. Of course its still smooth and stable but Id imagine having 2gb would ensure Android 5.0 and cm11 upgrades to not be a problem.
Is there much difference between the I9305 and i9300 ROMs? Can the I9300 ROMs work on or easily be modified to support I9305?
What do you think, please put my mind at ease. The price difference isn't much so I'd go for the I9305 as long as it gets CyanogenMod support as long as the I9300
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You'll find most of the answer to your question here but I'll try to go a bit more accordingly to your questions here.
Q: Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
A: If you are really into modding and just can't live without playing around with your phone and have to try something new everyday then yes it is a valid concern. i9300 has way more support and development than there is on i9300.
Q: The I9300 only has about 100-200mb of free ram even with nothing but aosp rom. Of course its still smooth and stable but Id imagine having 2gb would ensure Android 5.0 and cm11 upgrades to not be a problem.
A: Well, some of the dev thinks differently, they say 1GB ram is enough to handle 5.0 & AOSP rom and it will be stable and smooth and why wouldn't it be? there are helluva lot more devs for i9300 than the i9305 to make sure they run perfectly. To be honest without the devs the extra 1GB ram is useless.
Q: Is there much difference between the I9305 and i9300 ROMs? Can the I9300 ROMs work on or easily be modified to support I9305?
A: I don't know much about the difference but I can tell you this, it aint easy to port a i9300 rom to i9305, so don't expect to get all the rom they have on i9300, on our i9305.
Q: What do you think, please put my mind at ease. The price difference isn't much so I'd go for the I9305 as long as it gets CyanogenMod support as long as the I9300
A: Here I'll just talk about my personal preference which might put you in confusion rather than putting your mind at ease. I'm not saying this because I own a i9305 but personally I feel the extra 1GB ram is a big plus and I believe it'd help us to be more future proof and there are still a lot of ROM and MODs for i9305 to play around. A lot of the MODS from i9300 works for i9305 especially the biggest mods like JKAY mods works on i9305. I'm not gonna stretch it long but for a few bucks more I'd go for i9305, ofcourse if you are a mod freak then i9300 is your toy but I'm more than happy with my i9305, got several mod installed, changing rom every once in a while and with 1GB extra ram multi-tasking is a pleasure. The rest it upto you.
I hope I was able to clarify some of your concerns if not all.
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jamesyb0i said:
I was thinking it might be worth getting an i9305 because of the extra RAM it holds, with the addition of 4g the I9305 should last longer or be more future proof. But I realize the user base is significantly smaller than the I9100. As a cyanogenmod enthusiast I'm concerned the s3 LTE will have less dev support and thus be less future proof than the more popular 3g variant.
Is this a valid concern? Does the I9305 get less support because of its smaller user base? Perhaps not now but in the future when its a legacy device.
Yes probably and more so as many Devs will start on SGS4 .
CM support that's a question to ask the CM guys .
jje
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I'm in exactly the same situation. Is CM on the I9300 that stable to be called perfect? Don't they have the same issue with the camera and sources code?
I wonder if the RAM usage is the same on stock rom vs CM, if is significantly more on stock maybe the low usage on CM can make it up for the 1GB missing?
I ended up buying the I9305, no noticeable difference in performance when running cyanogenmod (cyanogenmod / aosp uses less ram than touchwiz, to answer your question, sandro).
The camera bug is the same on both the 9300 and 9305, also the last few nightly updates of cyanogenmod 10.1 have 'no changes' in the changelogs.. seems like my old S2 had more frequent updates and support.
The S4 is only $300 more so no worries can just sell and upgrade if the development community becomes stale
do you think the i9305 will ever see 4.2 or key lime whatever its version number will be?
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I'm currently thinking about buying a new S3, I'm not sure whether to buy the I9300 or the I9305.
While money is not my main consideration, I do think the extra 1GB of RAM would make a difference in the long run
(I don't have LTE in my country)
My main consern is that the I9305 won't establish as big development community as the I9300.
I mean, do you think that in a few months we will see a lot of development for the I9305?
Considering that any roms or mods made for the I9300 won't work with the I9305, this issue is big one for me.
Thanks
tzvika.m said:
I'm currently thinking about buying a new S3, I'm not sure whether to buy the I9300 or the I9305.
While money is not my main consideration, I do think the extra 1GB of RAM would make a difference in the long run
(I don't have LTE in my country)
My main consern is that the I9305 won't establish as big development community as the I9300.
I mean, do you think that in a few months we will see a lot of development for the I9305?
Considering that any roms or mods made for the I9300 won't work with the I9305, this issue is big one for me.
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Well i think you've answered your own question mate .
If you're main thing is choice of roms and all the mods themes etc then go for i9300.
If youve not got lte in your country then yeah I would go for i9300.
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I dont think the i9305 will ever have as much support as the i9300.
The S4 is only a few months away and most are probably just waiting for that.
There are some great ROMS for i9305 though and also Perseus Kernel which is awesome.
I have both the i9305 and the i9300 and to be honest the extra RAM makes a HUGE difference!
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Hi everybody. I've already checked the various threads but the answers don't satisfied me. I want the Samsung Galaxy s Advance and I've the chance to buy it for 250 euros. The device is perfect for what I have to do (the only drawback is the RAM, because I wanted it to be 1 gb). Anyway, my question is: is it good to buy it now? I fear that it will not be upgraded anymore. I've another question: should I wait for new devices coming at the MWC? Any release date? My budget is limited to 250 euros.
Thanks in... advance
Sorry for my bad English
Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
nlygamz said:
Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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thanks. I think I'll get the Advance. So I hope xda developers will continue rocking on this device!
I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
Don't buy it if you expect development.
It's a solid performer but nothing more. I came here from a ****ty, low-end htc device that had more development done in a month than SGSA since it had it's own subforum on xda.
So for the time being you can choose from:
1. JB update X or JB update Y - both provided by our hefty russian branch :>
2. two custom kernels which do have some bugs and glitches (but hey, nothing's perfect right?)
Device was released nearly a year ago. Do the math.
The only reason i would recommend you to avoid samsung smartphones is problem with keeping dialer and sms applications locked in RAM. So far i have not seen the device (from ancient devices like spica or i5500 to s3) that manage this properly without custom rom (@official samsung software dev's wtf?). So i would probably go for LG/Sony
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
Brainiac.shri said:
Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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nlygamz said:
android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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One thing is "may run" and another is "Samsung will give it to us".
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@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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I don't we will get 5.0 update.. maybe S2 may not also get it.. S2 and our phone may get 4.2 update and that would be it!
But I'm just guessing.. the rest depends on Google and Samsung
discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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HTC is way worse than Samsung......
P.S. I was an X-HTC user
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It doesn't really matter what updates will samsung release, that I've learned while owning an original Galaxy S. The last fw officially relased to it was GB 2.3.6. Right now it rocks Jelly Bean 4.2 stable. (yes, of course CyanogenMod ^^)
It's quiet an old device, but still, the dev support is amazing! And do you know why it's possible? Firstly, sales. More than 10 million sold. More popular device means more devs, usually. Secondly, it's hardware is identical to Google's Nexus S which received an official Jelly Bean and that means source codes released in timely manner to work with!
As for the S Advance, the only problem is popularity. It was an awful mistake to release it with gingerbread instead of already long available ICS. This repels users, who are interested in tinkering with their phone. This means only those few people (and to whom I thank their efforts) are here and capable to do anything with development for our device. Honestly, the list of roms and kernels are short.
On the other hand the chipset is quiet popular and I'm sure other handsets with the same chipset will help somewhat to keep this device up to date for as long as possible.
Cheers!
Hi everybody!
I am a fully satisfied Galaxy Wonder I8150 user, however - since I found an offer for the Galaxy S Advance I9070 for about 200€ - I am thinking about changing my phone.
What would you suggest?
Are you happy with the I9070?
I am a bit worried that you do not have many ROMs available - while I8150 has plenty of them and good developers, just to name one, arco! - and it seems to me that the I8150 is not very widespread...
Opinions and discussions are more than welcome, tx.
The number 1 advantage in s advance is good value for money and good specs for that price. If specs are your only concern try s3mini . It may be costlier but has more ram. As regards s advance, now after Jb update development has picked up and we do have at 3 least good custom ROMs and other mods. CM10 official may come soon and there will be more ROMs based on it.
But if you are buying a phone now look for something newer as Samsung mostly won't release next android update for advance
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... And take care with the P version...
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@ Sadvance: I surely agree with the fact that I9070 seems to be good value for money.
I would go for S3 mini (although I prefer the design of I9070 actually!) but paying 100€ more for having 1GB Ram instead of 768MB is not justifiable imho.
Are there other significant differences between S3 mini and I9070 (I cannot find any other)?
@R_a_z_v_a_n: what do you mean?
Should I look for the P version since it also has NFC reader?
Or should I look for the normal (i.e. NOT P version) because it seems to be more widespread?
Tx a lot.
Hi there,
after extending my Vodafone subscription for another 2 years they sent me a SGS3 I9305... Over the last years i was using SGS and SGS II with CM... After googling half a day and reading the other half of the day i got stuck - not knowing what do know with the I9305 because I am addicted to Cyanogenmod since I first bought the SGS... With the SGS II it became even better and now I don´t know if I should laugh or cry holding a flagship smartphone in my hands which is not ( officialy ) supported by the Firmware / Rom I love. This Forum looks like the place to ask a few of my questions related to the future of my I9305, Cyanogenmod and a few other things... so here we go:
-Why is the cyanogenmod team not developing for the I9305?
-Will they take over the work that is put into the "userbuilt" Version and add official support for the I9305?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay something like a "sidekick" or can we expect nightlies / fixes on a regular basis?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay on top of new releases / versions of Android?
-Does Codeworkx now "officially" support the "userbuilt" Version or was he just "snooping around" and giving some advice?
-Is the I9305 already "born dead" and should I sell it and wait for another Samsung device that´ll be supported again?
I really don´t know what to do... The Vodafone ( Germany ) Stock Rom is pain in the a** and flashing other "experimentals Roms" is no good for me either. I love and admire what the Cyanogenmod developers are doing and how much "brain matter" and energy they put into their project, but from my ( quite selfish ) point of view it feels wrong to give up on the users which were given a f****n I9305 by their Mobile-Providers and not the I9300...
Please enlighten me and if there is hope to use the I9305 like it was possible with SGS and SGS II in combination with CM please give me a hint how to achieve that. I´d really appreciate some CYANO-LOVE for my "not so smart" smartphone...
Many thanks in advance and greetings from good old germany - Clever&Smart
I think the closest thing you're going to get is liquids rom which is very close to cyanogen if not better. At the moment it's not stable enough for me but I'm sure after a few updates it will be worth using.
For now I've customised ripper rom to get the pure look. And it works flawlessly. And let's face it you can't beat having a Sammy base so that the camera works as it was intended to!
But be patient things change pretty quick on here and maybe codeworks will change his mind
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Amplified (the maintainer of Liquid Smooth I9305) has a say in official I9305 CM support but I don't know why you wouldn't just go for Liquid Smooth, we have a dedicated Dev that happily takes logcats, fixes problems, will be pushing out updates and most of all we know he will be sticking around unlike Codeworkx. Yes he has done SOO much but unfortunately he doesn't have our device and refuses to support Samsung for good reasons too so he can only do so much. Do as much as you can to help around and if we all do our bit we will see a flourishing I9305 forum.
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Amplified (the maintainer of Liquid Smooth I9305) has a say in official I9305 CM support but I don't know why you wouldn't just go for Liquid Smooth, we have a dedicated Dev that happily takes logcats, fixes problems, will be pushing out updates and most of all we know he will be sticking around unlike Codeworkx. Yes he has done SOO much but unfortunately he doesn't have our device and refuses to support Samsung for good reasons too so he can only do so much. Do as much as you can to help around and if we all do our bit we will see a flourishing I9305 forum.
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Am I understanding your answer right? Is the Liquid Smooth ROM a ROM from the CyanogenMod Development Tree ?
Its they're own based of some from cm and aosp
It's pretty close though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38033836
I too was sadden by the lack developmental roms on here but I love this device so oh well
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Here you go mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38243046
[ROM][GT-I9305][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 unofficial builds
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djembey said:
Here you go mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38243046
[ROM][GT-I9305][JB][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 unofficial builds
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That is still the exact same CM, now you just dont have to screen through 46 pages to know what is going on
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That is still the exact same CM, now you just dont have to screen through 46 pages to know what is going on
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But - correct me if I am wrong - I think it´s still "not maintained" and codeworkx is flaming everybody who is not a development pro because he is mad... and under these circumstances it doesn´t seem to be very wise to install it right now - right ?
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But - correct me if I am wrong - I think it´s still "not maintained" and codeworkx is flaming everybody who is not a development pro because he is mad... and under these circumstances it doesn´t seem to be very wise to install it right now - right ?
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You have 2 options.
1. Install it and try it.. It's not maintained yet and it's Unofficial build as Codeworkx don't own an i9305.....
2. Wait until CM project have full support for i9305..... You can wait forever. ....
It's completely up to you mate
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cleverandsmart said:
-Why is the cyanogenmod team not developing for the I9305?
-Will they take over the work that is put into the "userbuilt" Version and add official support for the I9305?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay something like a "sidekick" or can we expect nightlies / fixes on a regular basis?
-Will the "userbuilt" Version stay on top of new releases / versions of Android?
-Does Codeworkx now "officially" support the "userbuilt" Version or was he just "snooping around" and giving some advice?
-Is the I9305 already "born dead" and should I sell it and wait for another Samsung device that´ll be supported again?
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To answer your questions in order,
We don't have an official maintainer because
i: hardly anyone owns this device;
ii: of the few people who do own this device, most are not able to maintain it, and none have previously maintained devices for CM;
iii: codeworkx is not willing to maintain it because, in very short, Samsung are very nearly the worst OEM when it comes to supporting third-party development; besides which, he doesn't own the device, which makes it very difficult for him to work on the port.
If a maintainer appears, we'll get official nightlies. I wouldn't hold your breath.
As above, if a maintainer appears, he or she will likely take over the existing device tree and the unofficial version will just become irrelevant.
If someone makes new builds, yes. There are a few of us who can do that until something major breaks, since builds really only require time rather than knowledge.
Codeworkx does not, and has never, supported this device or offered to maintain it. He just took pity on us because no-one here has enough porting experience to do it properly otherwise. That said, he has fixed a lot of bugs, and at this point in time the build is pretty much comparable in stability to the t0lte builds.
Since you care about AOSP ROMs - sell it, get a Nexus 4. If for some reason you don't want that, just don't get a Samsung device - seriously. Almost any manufacturer save HTC would be better; Sony in particular seem to be flavour of the month. Samsung are really, really bad in this one regard (i.e., releasing proper sources). There's still a lot that's not yet released, and what's there took far too long to get.
With regard to the LiquidSmooth ROM, it's hard to judge exactly what Amplified can do. He hasn't updated the LiquidSmooth device tree except with the changes codeworkx has made. He also implied a while back that C/C++ aren't his preferred languages, in which case I would expect hardware support to improve slowly at best. I don't mean any of that as criticism of Amplified, of course, I just don't want to tell you that all will be well without knowing beyond doubt whether Amplified can fix driver issues down the line.
Having said that, the unofficial CM build really is entirely usable, and I expect LiquidSmooth is much the same. I daresay the former will be kept up-to-date by the community until Android 5 appears, at which point porting will probably require a skilled developer again. The progress of the latter is up to Amplified.
Especially those people who owned the Note since the beginning in Q4 2011.
What do you think of the development of our Exynos-based Note?
How do you feel after one year that CM for our Note even our little brother S2 is not fully working?
Are you satisfied with the stock ROMs provided by Samsung?
How about the superbrick fiasco? Do you think Samsung should have done something more quickly?
What do you think of the Jelly Bean update for Note? Quality is there?
EDIT: One more question. Will you consider a Samsung for your next device?
Development - good not that bad
CyanogenMod - Not working at its full potential but it is still my daily driver
Satisfaction with Samsung firmware ? - Are you kidding ?
How about the superbrick fiasco ? - I considered selling selling my note when Superbrick bug was detected but there were no other 5' phones at that time. Even now, non-removable battery (Xperia Z and others) is a deal-breaker for me.
Jelly bean update - It does not have professional and finishing touch as I quoted your post in other thread.
Am I happy with my Note ?
I am happy because I'm content and I am content because I am happy
For your every question it's a no.. There are not much development even some peps here think uploading the stock deodex rom with xyz name adding some mods which are already present on forum individually is a developmnet..? A big no, but the elite xda-developers who are trying their best bringing cutting edge work and something innovative to android development world is called development and i am very thankful to them.. But still it's not up to par.. I wish i bought a nexus device in place of note regarding android development and modding.. And sammy is just to lazy in providing update to our device and providing source codes, stock jb is just unacceptable for me it's too laggy for anyone who uses cm as a daily driver.. I am afraid to say that cm is also not fully functional, the memory leak sometimes make me go crazy but have to live with this sh*t truth about my beloved note.. After all i love my note than any other device owned by me in past and please don't term me as complainig it's all what any note user has in his heart to say.. And yeah how can i forget about brick bug, when my note firstly got affected by it i was like what the heck is wrong with my baby it is dead and you will not believe still i fear from doing any wipes it doesn't matter if i have modified kernel or not and the black crush issue is like never gonna sorted out
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Development - we hamper our own progress, more politics than codes, groupism, lack of feedback, squelching of viable ideas
CM - an alternative to explore but not be ruled/smothered by.
Samsung performance - Good in many ways- stable, battery friendly/new features/ frequent updates. Good inspite of black clipping, highly priced devices and poor build quality.
Brickbug - never existed beyond the walls of xda and/or rooting process.
Jelly bean - better than ics
Had a lot of fun with my Note. if i didnt have it , with my past experience of it, Id go for a Samsung product but would wait for price to go down first.
NB - Can you really hope for an unbiased answer ? where you become popular and part of the herd if you call Sammy Crapsung and start off your OP with a statement like - I hate Touchwiz , and thanks are heaped on you for it ? Hate begets hate.
I never put forth my views for argument so dont even try.
1 No development to full potential without Exymos drivers, still ppl did best they could. Most devs left by now
[email protected] ... ... ...them.
3No, but some custom ROMs are/were good.
4My phone has sane chip - they should recall vulnerable devices or deliver sw fix earlier.
5For me on AllianceLSZ it is as close as possibly, but I did not tried stock version.
Last one. I don't think so. They grow to big market share - lame corporation. They are lying, promising and not delivering. All I liked -big screen now is no longer Samsung's only thing. I am not fond of cheap plastic too. I liked sd card and removable battery.
Time will tell. HTC one Motorolla X LG who knows?
Development you can't talk about it since it is for every device separate and the devices high end life is under 6 months so developers are using the hit and run tactic since after awhile the device isn't popular and if you now add the delay of source to be given from the manufacture tell me what can - could you await from the developers. Who they make this with 0 to low profit gain except few of them, but that's another story.
You can't compare s2 with any device out there. S2 is legen wait for it dary .
Samsungs firmware upgrade policy was ok till ics came out, the updates where faster then you could find all the changes from one. After the second ics firmware the things did go worse, if I remember right it was s3 comming out time. And before the note 2 was introduced there was the end.
Profit rules them all.
If you don't buy that you will buy the other. Tell me a company who is making a good device with great support? None.
Google isn't producing her own devices.
Apple? Come on you can spend your money somewhere else.
As long smartphones aren't as PC's where you can add 10, different self picked, parts to make a phone and after that you pick a OS to install on it with the drivers for the parts. Till then you will pay to be happy when you will get a fully operating device with SOME of the things you need.
Own a DBT N7000
Flashed first time on JB leak since till then, the device and OS was enought/had nothing to offer more, to my needs.
Cm never used it. But N7000 without spen? Huge respect to the guys and girls for supporting so many devices ofc.
Let the "flames" begin.
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1 [Development]. Well, there are some sweet ROMs and mods, but my mate that recommended looking for stuff here some time ago said there's everything here, and TBH I don't see it, was looking for ported S Memo for JB, ink effect for S Pen only and other small mods and didn't find anything
2 [CM]. Never cared about it, I picked Note for features built around TW
3 [Stocks]. Until JB, it was pretty good, new features, not too much crap, stable and efficient
4 [Brick]. Terrible mistake and marketing failure, didn't affect me fortunately
5 [JB]. Nope, it's a total disappointment, I was eager to update it ASAP, but after I did it I was like "WHAT THE HELL MAN?". Sad, sad update
6 [Sammy]. I never considered any Samsung's phone other than SII or Note, so no
I am still very happy with my Note...with some work to be done, JB is very fast and stable and bugfree...i tried all CM and his derivates and they are great, but i still like modded stock most, mainly for all the features coming with it or possible to add - and it lags 0 (in words ZERO) for me...brickbug was an awful mistake, bricked 2 devices for me (one i got repaired on warranty)...i dont care about blackclipping cause it never affected me that much...
And cause this seems to be the 'bash sammy and note 1 thread' i am looking forward to some public flogging
I am also happy with my note.
I feel there is a strong but disappointed community regarding development. Most developers have strained that Samsung closedness in regards of hardware level drivers have halted back development months if not a year.
I personally feel the folowing is true: because of difficulty in basic os openeness guys like CM team have found time wanting in further development then basic os. I saw endevours in spen functionality and firmly believe if Samsung was more open, not only would rom development taken off more but also the app development. Just gettting rom functional has sucked the living daylights out of a lot of good devs. Had that not been the case they would have been motivated and have time left to revolutionizing further spen/apps stuff. This is a cascading effect.
I in that sense having seen burnouts and close burnouts with certain devs, am definitely not dissapointed in the devs. Greatfull for their devotion and spirit. In Samsung, yes definately dissapointed. I love what Samsung did with JB. But this whole ordeal is not a good example of transforming an opensource platform into a true community platform. That Samsung can do better. Must do better, because the XDA community is already speaking of moving from Samsung to more dev friendly mobiles. Samsung needs to turn that around.
Their future lineup is promising, but with this trackrecord, its not gonna appeal the devs into storming buyin.
More and more users are following favorite devs, if those devs move away, so will xda members following those devs. Time to step up the game Samsung, we know you want to.
Note is a great device(except battery) for me.Yeah,I miss more ported roms from other phones too,but today we have so many different chips and without sources for drivers I know it's hard...
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Livebyte said:
What do you think of the development of our Exynos-based Note?
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From Samsung, laughable. From individuals, can't ask more.
How do you feel after one year that CM for our Note even our little brother S2 is not fully working?
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Read somewhere that Samsung denied CM Officials' request to release TW Source. IMHO, I don't know if its true or actually a matter of concern but it is quite noticeable that other manufacturers' devices have amazing CMs whereas TW based phones are suffering.
Are you satisfied with the stock ROMs provided by Samsung?
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No.
Dear Samsung, Nobody wants your ****ing motion sensor voodoo you call "Smart-this-Smart-that" and annoying visual/audio effects you call "Nature-Nature". Your idea of using a Digitizer with a phone? Excellent. Making a phone that is a Milestone for Smartphones? Fantastic. Providing Dedicated apps? Orgasmic. ****ty optimization? You lost me.
How about the superbrick fiasco? Do you think Samsung should have done something more quickly?
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Lost my "dear" to that once. My Beloved Samsung with Amazing Proprietary Issues.
What do you think of the Jelly Bean update for Note? Quality is there?
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Pfffffhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD
Will you consider a Samsung for your next device?
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Probably. When it comes to RAW Power, Samsung doesn't shy away. That's the beauty of it.
Note has many achievements.
1. It tasted 3 flavors of android.
2. Its the first >5 inch phone which changed the way of users habit.
3. It has seen the mist development more than galaxy nexus. It got all tge major custom releases with tw stock roms as a bonus.
4. Its the only phone which even after 1 and a half year life has a place in users heart.
5. It was a future proof device of its time and the way dev helped it groom is remarkable.
6. Thanks to devs who despite being annoying contributes so much to make our experience good.
Entropy, dr.ketan,Eybee1976, chasmodo, Criskelo, and so many others who take out time to make things better.
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Hi all.
Anybody knows if Ubuntu Touch for Galaxy S 4 Active is being made?
Can we use the standard galaxy S4 build, if they manage to get it working on their system?
It is basically the same (same Processor, sound device, etc.), except for the camera.
I am willing to give 10 USD to the person who creates the first working beta
(I know its not much, but i am a student, so i dont have much money right now.. )
All the best,
Toby
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TobiasFP said:
Hi all.
Anybody knows if Ubuntu Touch for Galaxy S 4 Active is being made?
Can we use the standard galaxy S4 build, if they manage to get it working on their system?
It is basically the same (same Processor, sound device, etc.), except for the camera.
I am willing to give 10 USD to the person who creates the first working beta
(I know its not much, but i am a student, so i dont have much money right now.. )
All the best,
Toby
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It also has a different screen amongst other things, meaning it needs a different kernel - different drivers. I wouldn't hold my breath on ANY more roms coming to the i9295. It simply didn't gain enough traction!
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It also has a different screen amongst other things, meaning it needs a different kernel - different drivers. I wouldn't hold my breath on ANY more roms coming to the i9295. It simply didn't gain enough traction!
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Thanks for the pick me up
But shouldnt all that needs changing be the blobs for the CM build?
Since Ubuntu touch relies on CyanogenMod to work, and since we have a pretty stable CM rom going, couldnt we just use the blobs from the i9505 build with minor adjustments to get going?
or have i misunderstood the build process?
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Thanks for the pick me up
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Heh, yes I'm a bit bitter. I'm planning to sell my active and get a nexus 5 instead thanks to the lack of developments, so I can't help but rub it in a bit on the way out. While there's been some upswing lately for the i537 thanks to safestrap, none of that translates to the i9295.
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But shouldnt all that needs changing be the blobs for the CM build?
Since Ubuntu touch relies on CyanogenMod to work, and since we have a pretty stable CM rom going, couldnt we just use the blobs from the i9505 build with minor adjustments to get going?
or have i misunderstood the build process?
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Well, I'm using the CM build from this forum as my daily user, and "pretty stable" is a good description. Not stable enough really, and the most pressing issue is the lack of official CM support to make it so. I don't know how easy it is, but quite obviously there's more to it than you'd think or it would have happened already. Samsung is (apparently) notorious for not making it easy in any way, so... I wouldn't hold out hope. Not since this device turned out to be so slowly adopted that there just doesn't seem to be enough developers interested.
Perhaps this will change over the year to come, but I doubt it, and I for one don't have time for it.
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Heh, yes I'm a bit bitter. I'm planning to sell my active and get a nexus 5 instead thanks to the lack of developments, so I can't help but rub it in a bit on the way out. While there's been some upswing lately for the i537 thanks to safestrap, none of that translates to the i9295.
Well, I'm using the CM build from this forum as my daily user, and "pretty stable" is a good description. Not stable enough really, and the most pressing issue is the lack of official CM support to make it so. I don't know how easy it is, but quite obviously there's more to it than you'd think or it would have happened already. Samsung is (apparently) notorious for not making it easy in any way, so... I wouldn't hold out hope. Not since this device turned out to be so slowly adopted that there just doesn't seem to be enough developers interested.
Perhaps this will change over the year to come, but I doubt it, and I for one don't have time for it.
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No, of course it is not easy, but what i was saying is, that when the i9505 gets going, which i believe it will, since they have been working on it for about a month now, i believe it could "easily" be converted to the i9295.
The i9505 is a lot more similar to the i9295 than the i537, they both share the same Krait processor, and the screen is already fully supported in the current CM build of the i9295, so i dont see that as a problem.
Of course it will take some time, but i believe (okay, a better word would be "hope") that when the i9505 has Ubuntu Touch ready, it will not take long for us.
See the development status here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274387&page=4