Heat problems compared to other phones - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I went to the At&t store yesterday to check out the new phones. There were three HTC One phones right next to each other, and they were running a demo video. They were all very warm and uncomfortable to hold. I like cool metal, not hot. Someone willprobably tell me its aluminum and aluminum heats up so its normal, but the HTC One is not the only metal phone around. The Xperia T and Ion are quite cool to the touch. So is the iPhone 5. The iPad, which has the most similar metal look and feel to the HTC One, does not heat up. The S4 nearby was also running a video demo and it was very cool. It uses an even faster 600 processor. The original S got toasty quickly when I owned it. The S2 mostly in the camera area. The S3 hardly noticeable. The S4 seems to stay pretty cool. So plastic vs aluminum can only factor in so much when it comes to how hot the phone can get. Do you think the HTC One has a heat problem?

I don't feel like my HTC One gets hotter than any of the previous phones I have had. All my phones got really warm when playing graphic intense games for a long time but none of them became uncomfortable to touch.

My 64G Dev One seems to run 2 or 3 degrees C cooler than my old SGS3 when doing similar tasks.

For aluminum devices, it is normal for them to get warm on the outside because metal conducts heat well and dissipates it. The same thing is true for Macbook computers.
I doesn't always feel nice to the touch, but the inside is going to get just as hot in the HTC as an S4, but metal radiates it out and away more.
It is a good thing in many ways. Perfectly normal.

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[Q] Back battery door loose

I just got my HD7 today and there is a noticeable amount of space between the part of the back you can remove and the bottom of the back. There is some creaking between the two back plates. The bottom backplate is higher raised than the top back plate. Is it supposed to be like this or did I just get one that was messed up. (FYI, I love my WinPhone7)
It is also on mine.
I've actually had 3 HD7s so far and each one had a different fit on the battery door. The one I have now has the best fit of them all but the first one, the top of the door stood out further than the rest of the door. The top wasn't flush with the side like the middle and bottom.
Quality control is lacking at HTC these days. The first one had signal problems. The second one had dead pixels all over the screen. So far this third one hasn't shown any problems.
I do believe, though, that the HD7 is the most gorgeous of all the WP7 devices yet. To me it's like a refined and polished HD2. It is everything I wanted in the HD2's appearance.
Make sure it is snapped into place properly. It may seem that it has seated properly but it needs a good press down with thumbs and it should snap into place and sit flush.
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I've actually had 3 HD7s so far and each one had a different fit on the battery door. The one I have now has the best fit of them all but the first one, the top of the door stood out further than the rest of the door. The top wasn't flush with the side like the middle and bottom.
Quality control is lacking at HTC these days. The first one had signal problems. The second one had dead pixels all over the screen. So far this third one hasn't shown any problems.
I do believe, though, that the HD7 is the most gorgeous of all the WP7 devices yet. To me it's like a refined and polished HD2. It is everything I wanted in the HD2's appearance.
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With the amount of devices HTC keeps churning out almost every second, its no wonder they are making mistakes in quality assurance on some of them.
I too have the same gap between the top cover and the bottom radio cover, you can see the sim through the gap.
Its odd that the Desire HD got a better unibody design than the HD7 and yet they are both practically siblins.
Would it have also killed them to put and SLCD instead of stantard LCD? I know amoled supplies are low and Samsung cockblocked Super Amoled distribution.
Such a large screen deserves higher quality.
I'm pissed off with HTC but I really really like my HD7 with WinPhone 7. Zune is fecking awesome.
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With the amount of devices HTC keeps churning out almost every second, its no wonder they are making mistakes in quality assurance on some of them.
I too have the same gap between the top cover and the bottom radio cover, you can see the sim through the gap.
Its odd that the Desire HD got a better unibody design than the HD7 and yet they are both practically siblins.
Would it have also killed them to put and SLCD instead of stantard LCD? I know amoled supplies are low and Samsung cockblocked Super Amoled distribution.
Such a large screen deserves higher quality.
I'm pissed off with HTC but I really really like my HD7 with WinPhone 7. Zune is fecking awesome.
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I agree. I expected a bit more hardware wise also. But I look at it like a refined and polished HD2. It looks exactly like what I've wanted my HD2 to look like. I was even envious of the Evo when I saw it. But this HD7 is even better looking than the Evo. That sweet black-chrome surround and those nice silver sound producing grills. The use of soft buttons, getting away from the hard buttons of the HD2. The super clean rear side and the even-better-looking-than-the-Evo kickstand.
As long as I look at the HD7 as an HD2.2, I'm content. WP7 is the real glory of this device. Such a sweet mobile OS.
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I agree. I expected a bit more hardware wise also. But I look at it like a refined and polished HD2. It looks exactly like what I've wanted my HD2 to look like. I was even envious of the Evo when I saw it. But this HD7 is even better looking than the Evo. That sweet black-chrome surround and those nice silver sound producing grills. The use of soft buttons, getting away from the hard buttons of the HD2. The super clean rear side and the even-better-looking-than-the-Evo kickstand.
As long as I look at the HD7 as an HD2.2, I'm content. WP7 is the real glory of this device. Such a sweet mobile OS.
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I've never had a HD2 so i cant comment much on your experience, but I agree that the HD7 looks beautiful and well designed, i really like the weight and the black chrome surround. I could have done without the grills, but I'm getting used to them.
What I would have like are that materials used be more akin to the Desire HD, less plastic more metal for the main enclosure, then plastic elements where its needed. Alas, I'm sure there will be a WP7 htc HD8 phone like that in a few months with built in 32GB storage, then we HD7 owners will be crying.
I'm quite content, i just need WP7 to be updated with some fundamental features missed at launch to appease the power user in me.
I just got it yesterday so I took it back to t-mobile today and they exchanged it for me. It was such a hard choice whether to get this or the mytouch 4g.
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I just got it yesterday so I took it back to t-mobile today and they exchanged it for me. It was such a hard choice whether to get this or the mytouch 4g.
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I had the MyTouch 4G and had data problems. Turns out it (Android) uses a separate data service than WinMo and mine was WinMo. But I hated the plasticy look of the front button panel and the protrusion on the USB and HP connectors. It ruined the aesthetics. I wished I had gotten the G2 instead. But I returned the MyTouch and later got another HD7, for which I am glad.
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I've actually had 3 HD7s so far and each one had a different fit on the battery door. The one I have now has the best fit of them all but the first one, the top of the door stood out further than the rest of the door. The top wasn't flush with the side like the middle and bottom.
Quality control is lacking at HTC these days. The first one had signal problems. The second one had dead pixels all over the screen. So far this third one hasn't shown any problems.
I do believe, though, that the HD7 is the most gorgeous of all the WP7 devices yet. To me it's like a refined and polished HD2. It is everything I wanted in the HD2's appearance.
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I would have much rather had the hd2's metal battery cover over this one, but overall I am pleased with the design.
My signal seems a little worse, but I'm not sure if its a defect or just the way it is. Trying to give microsoft some time to see if an update might be coming for the radio.
As far as QC for this device, my back is flush, but if you play with the battery cover, you can make a small gap to see the sim.

Nexus 7, My Thoughts

So the Nexus 7 is my first and probably my only tablet for the next long while. I have been a fan of owning Nexus devices since I got my Nexus S (Which is still on duty today!)
When I saw Google I/O I think we all had the same reaction... "WOW! A quad core, HD tablet with Jelly Bean and from Google, For only $199!" and I was no exception. After some thinking, I figured that I would probably enjoy owning a tablet and I went and got a 16gb model.
First Impressions...
The tablets box was just beautiful and I couldn't help but take a picture of it before opening it up. Simple, colourful and elegant. After opening up the box (Man that slip cover is on tight eh?) I was greeted to the 100% clean and clear screen and a small overlay showing the button functions. The tablet set-up was a breeze and looked wonderful, just like ICS and other JB devices all do, but what was sweet is the tablet some how entered my gmail address automatically for me, so I am guessing that is because it recognized the Wi-Fi network I connected her to, but none the less the first time start up took no more then a minute.
As I said I have a Nexus S rooted running JB so this is not my first JB device, but the Nexus 7? This was a whole new playing field for me. Every single touch and swipe was instant and smooth, much more so then my Nexus S ever has been. It to this day is running smooth as silk on the stock ROM. Well done Google.
Screen was very clear and responsive, not quite a retina display (I know, blasphemy) but still very very good. One downer was it's colours aren't quite as vivid as an AMOLED screen, but in fairness, they are more natural on the Nexus 7.
Feeling and weight wise was no compromise. The tablet feels great in the had and I can say that I can easily use it one handed for videos for a fairly long time before my arm gets the least bit tired. The back of this baby is textured just right in my taste. My parents have a Lenovo Ideapad and in my comparison, it is rather heavy, and after a while feels bad in the hands, but the Nexus 7 is curved just the right amount to be easy to hold, yet still modern in design so this one is just as Matias Duarte says: "Feels perfect in the hands".
After Some Time?
The tablet is still holding up as I have said with only one complaint...
I dropped this girl from about 2 feet off the ground when I got out of my car, and it feel on to gravel. It works just fine, but the damage to the silver outter ring was not very good looking.... It seems like a very easy to scuff little ring so I would be careful with that part... The screen to had a very very minor scratch which I often forget, but still is there and all from one very small drop. I guess I should get a case very soon hahahaa. Again, very minor drop and damage, but it reflects how it would handle if it were dropped while standing for example. Hopefully, I won't find out...
Am I satisfied? Yes. I am very happy with my purchase, and I recommend it to anyone really. This has fit into my daily schedules more then I have ever thought! 60% of the time I use this over my laptop for web browsing and YouTube videos. It is just wonderful for daily interwebz, videos, games etc. The build quality I assume could be better (judging from peoples other reviews) but to me it seems very substantial and I am completely happy with it, especially at $249 for 16gb.
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And this is the damage if you were wondering. Keep in mind it is only from 2, maybe even 1.5 feet high from out of my car.
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As for the first run problems, I am guessing they are there, but bare in mind... When there is a issue with a new device, you go online but when there isn't, you don't. Think of all the other tablets that are working fine that have shipped. For what it's worth mine is of the C7 serial.
I agree devices no matter how cheap they may be, should ALL be put through equal quality control. Asus I think is doing a decent job with their devices, and my Asus laptop is handling better then better. Call me a fan boy but I think it really is a pretty good device. As for the comparison people make to cars, there is none. Often times I wonder if cars are built like disposable cameras these days but what ever. Phones are not wonderful either but most all the ones I have had, have done their work.

[Q] Xperia Z design quality

Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.
trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine
Riyal said:
Hi guys! I am really into buying Xperia ZL eversince it was announced but I am slowly considering getting the Xperia Z instead. But there's just 1 thing in my mind that's confusing me in shifting to Z from ZL and it's about how they design the phone.
1. It's whole body is tempered glass. Yes it's luxurious indeed.
2. It's thin. I like that one too although I prefer bulky phones.
3. It's water and dust resistant. Great feature indeed this should shut the tech support of sony repair center into saying that "Sorry you phone is water damaged it's not within our warranty".
But issue is with those 3 advantages comes 1 big advantage.
How will it be able to withstand heat? No I'm not talking about fire resistance but heat from the processor and battery. All of you already are aware that using extensive resources like video playback, browsing, games etc. uses too much power and causes a phone to heat up but seeing a tempered glass body(good conductor of heat) + slim build + a body with no holes where air could pass wouldn't the phone get overheat? Or at least wouldn't it be too hot to touch?
Some of you who owned a Nokia N82 on the past should understand what I am saying.
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I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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djq said:
trust me they are not going to release a phone that gets to hot to touch thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen....the nexus 4 is all glass as well and is just fine. every phone gets hot but trust me it will be just fine
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What I meant too hot to touch is that it's warm enough to the point that it's already uncomfortable to hold. Also nexus 4 is a millimeter thick than Xperia Z that's a big factor in heat. Plus I did point out 3 factors in heating and nexus 4 only has 1.
kornklown69 said:
I understand where You are coming from it probably has a built in shut down if it gets to hot... then again maybe the glass acts as a coolant and conducts cool air... I dunno we shall see though... I know the nexus 4 has been known to crack from heating then getting to cool to fast like putting it on a cold surface after it warms up.... we shall see though
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I would rather have portable heater with smartphone features than a smartphone that shuts off everytime lol!
Also glass can't be coolants it would defy the logic of nature
And yeah nexus 4 do encounter overheating issues too.
I just wish Xperia ZL was water resistant. The curve design on the back is a great way to reduce heat produced by the phone + the plastic material which reduces it also.
When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.
AK4TAY7BEN said:
When it gets hot pour water on it LOL... I don't think it will be that big of a problem.
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Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.
Riyal said:
Lol! Then in no time you'll end up cracking your phone. Or worse is end up having moisture inside the phone... The phone maybe water resistant but a sudden change in temperature could create moisture from the air inside the phone.
I think the best way out of this is by puting the Z in a protecting case.
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Well i guess that could could happen if you put it in ice cold water
I don't think i could ever put a case on that lovely back.
Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.
brambizimski said:
Am I the only one who thinks the bottom border on the front of the Z is a little too thick? It should be like the ZL imo.
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They need space to put the electronics you know The Xperia ZL is fatter so they can make the battery more compact, leaving more room for everything else behind the display. Also, part of the OmniBalance design is that the bezel is the same size on the top and bottom.
there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi joking
marcoplo said:
there is one thing which you guys are missing here
It is important to notice that apq8064 original factory clock is 1.7GHZ however sony take care about that by reducing the speed in to 1.5ghz:silly: so the cpu is under volt that means no overheat issue at least in locked boot loader :0
Unless you play games and keep the phone in the the (new coolant) icy Pepsi
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APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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APQ8064 officially has between 1.5GHz - 1.7GHz CPU speeds with release, the manufacturers can choose which speed they want in the kernel
Easy to change once kernel source is out
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it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation
marcoplo said:
it does not matter, but lower the frequency smaller heat output? especially while the case is water resistant so no air circulation
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I underclock my phones up to a minimum of 900mhz(it's a dual core msm8x60 processor) and still when watching videos, browsing the web and playing games(Like angry birds) for a minimum of 40minutes then the phone get's hotter already. This might not be the case for S4 processors since they have lower nanometer(nm) but still I'm pretty sure it would still get hot.
Regarding no air circulation... That's one of the main causes of overheating since the heat would be more stagnant. The more flow of air inside the phone the lesser it is to likely overheat.

Overheating

Hi,
Ive had a few problems with my One but I've stuck with it, more commonly the heat of the phone when playing games. I play all kinds when on the way to work on the tube (its boring) I play candy crush at the moment ( I loathe and love that game) the thing is what I've noticed is that the phone heats up to a point where it feels slightly uncomfortable. Does anyone else have this problem? I know that the likes of real racing 3 makes the phone hot but does anyone else have this same problem with the likes of candy crush (a relatively simple game)
As a test, play the game for 10 - 15 minutes and see how the phone feels in your hand. For me its s bit hot, this is my third and probably not my last HTC one. For me all three have had the same heat problem. Every day tasks are fine, just gaming knocks the heat up quite a bit.
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dladz said:
Hi,
Ive had a few problems with my One but I've stuck with it, more commonly the heat of the phone when playing games. I play all kinds when on the way to work on the tube (its boring) I play candy crush at the moment ( I loathe and love that game) the thing is what I've noticed is that the phone heats up to a point where it feels slightly uncomfortable. Does anyone else have this problem? I know that the likes of real racing 3 makes the phone hot but does anyone else have this same problem with the likes of candy crush (a relatively simple game)
As a test, play the game for 10 - 15 minutes and see how the phone feels in your hand. For me its s bit hot, this is my third and probably not my last HTC one. For me all three have had the same heat problem. Every day tasks are fine, just gaming knocks the heat up quite a bit.
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This sounds exactly like what mine does, except it happens with any activity if the activity is long enough (from gaming to simple web browsing). After about 15 to 30 minutes my battery will be between 37-41C, not making the phone burning to the touch but hot enough to make my hands sweat and holding the device uncomfortable. I was thinking because metal is such a great conductor that this is just a result of the build materials but I'm not sure
It could indeed be an issue of aluminum being an excellent conductor of heat.
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Same here, my EVO burns up when I play games for a longer time. The difference is that the EVO 3d has plastic on the back, not aluminium. I think it's HTC's problem...
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I know that the HTC's of old have had heat issues, primarily the One X had some problems but there have been many more.
I just noticed it when i first got the phone, its really quite a thin phone so i suppose some heat in there is expected, but when playing the likes of candy crush, doesn't appear to be a demanding game compared to the likes of rr3 or a psx emulator. I'm just worried about the long term implications on the internals, is it going to shorten the life of the components? I know my pc is as cool as a cucumber and i'm always on top of cooling with that but theres not a huge amount i can actually do with the phone.
Maybe a cooling pad on a case? Do they even make those?
Could just be an early batch and like i said, mine for the most part is cool, it's just gaming.
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It could indeed be an issue of aluminum being an excellent conductor of heat.
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Yea i'd thought that, would be good if they'd popped a heat vent in there but it'd ruin the aesthetics of the phone i suppose, it is after all a very pretty phone.
CrappyAlloy said:
This sounds exactly like what mine does, except it happens with any activity if the activity is long enough (from gaming to simple web browsing). After about 15 to 30 minutes my battery will be between 37-41C, not making the phone burning to the touch but hot enough to make my hands sweat and holding the device uncomfortable. I was thinking because metal is such a great conductor that this is just a result of the build materials but I'm not sure
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Well i'm glad it's not just me anyway I'm going to speak with the people who buy it in my place of work and see if theirs has any of the same issues because if they don't then i'll be swapping it out.
Oh and mines the silver one, not sure if it makes any difference or not.

Built Quality Compared to 4S

So the only reason why I have not pre-ordered, is the potential screen self cracking.
I have used an iPhone 4s for three years before I switched to Moto X. Even though both sides were glass (with aluminum side) that phone was sturdy and really well build. I used a plastic thin case that provides very minimal bulk/protection.
I've dropped it from my lap exiting my car and just falling off my desk. It has hit cement, road, or even tiles. Luckly it never hit face first. The metal band got dinged of and some chips on the edges. The glass however is flawless (except a scratch from keys).
Can anyone provide a honest comparison of the Z3 Compact with a iPhone 4s? Also even with this inconsistent "self cracking" screen, do you guys still recommend me getting it?
We don't really know how widespread the screen-cracking issue is, but I would say the overwhelming majority of people have had no problems with it, so I'm not terribly worried.
In terms of build quality, I don't have an iPhone to compare with, but my Z3c at least feels fantastic. There's no give on any components, nothing loose, everything's flush, no gaps between glass and edges.
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We don't really know how widespread the screen-cracking issue is, but I would say the overwhelming majority of people have had no problems with it, so I'm not terribly worried.
In terms of build quality, I don't have an iPhone to compare with, but my Z3c at least feels fantastic. There's no give on any components, nothing loose, everything's flush, no gaps between glass and edges.
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I should also state that, I am fully aware a dual sided glass phone is extremely fragile when dropped. I just want to hear about peoples opinions of its build quality.
Also one question, I have sat (lightly) on my phone in my back pocket on a office cushioned chair or car seat and nothings ever happened (iphone 4s and moto x). Would the z3 compact be any different? (more prone to breaking?)
I can't answer that. It feels solid, but I'm not going to go out of my way to sit on, bend and twist it to see if it'll break. I keep mine in my front pocket.
It doesn't feel remotely flimsy, if that helps.
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In terms of build quality, I don't have an iPhone to compare with, but my Z3c at least feels fantastic. There's no give on any components, nothing loose, everything's flush, no gaps between glass and edges.
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Personally I would have preferred if the finish was a bit less flush (edge to glass and glass to camera) because without a case there is no lay-on-the-table protection whatsoever against scratches, the camera glass and the sides are at exactly the same level.
degraaff said:
Personally I would have preferred if the finish was a bit less flush (edge to glass and glass to camera) because without a case there is no lay-on-the-table protection whatsoever against scratches, the camera glass and the sides are at exactly the same level.
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I agree! Thats why when I had my iPhone 4s, i normally had a case on it. Otherwise caseless, I kept it in my pocket or on some notebook/paper/cloth. Im feeling more comfortable about buying the phone now!
I upgraded to the Z3c from the iPhone 4S. The 4S took tens of drops varying from 2 feet off a bed onto carpet and 4 feet onto concrete. Only two years later did it finally crack the glass in the corner when dropped on concrete. I owned my Z3c for a week before it slid out of my pocket when sitting down. Falling 1 foot onto laminate tile and cracking horizontally across the back.
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I upgraded to the Z3c from the iPhone 4S. The 4S took tens of drops varying from 2 feet off a bed onto carpet and 4 feet onto concrete. Only two years later did it finally crack the glass in the corner when dropped on concrete. I owned my Z3c for a week before it slid out of my pocket when sitting down. Falling 1 foot onto laminate tile and cracking horizontally across the back.
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no case?
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no case?
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Not yet :'( Was waiting for a nice bumper to come out. Never did I expect it to break so easily.
I have looked at and read about the Z3 C and it has its excellent points( camera etc).
Durability is not one of them, glass on back scratches easily but also is not very flexible, so can crack from flexing as well as impacts IMO.
Also , glass on back is not usually Gorilla or Dragontrail.
To make a Z3C durable, tempered glass screens front and back are needed, plus a case, preferably with rigidity to prevent flex and some shock absorbing later.
Or the,Rhino bumper might work, we will see.
Just my honest opinion.
Meh, Z3c camera's overrated IMO.
But the phone seems as solid as every other phone I've ever had. However, the materials seem a bit less lower quality than the 4s -- plastic sides, for example, and a lot of ports, buttons, flaps etc. which tends to make things feels a little less refined than the more minimalist iPhone. But at the end of the day it's just a functional object, not a design icon to be put on a pedestal.
Having heard the stories of cracking glass on the Z3c, however, I'm gonna be a little more careful with this phone than any of my previous phones (including the Nexus 4, another double-glass phone). But remember the iPhone 4 also had its own glass-cracking problems when launched.
Coming from an Iphone, I can see how you would think
the Z3 Camera overrated.
But I am thinking of Z3 C versus Alpha and took quick
Photos in Mall recently with a new Z3C at Sony Store,
and an Alpha and S5 at.AT&T nearby, same Mall.
Details and sharpness, the Z3C was good in Super Auto,
and slightly above Alpha and S5 in 20.7mp mods.
Just judging for sharpness , detail, and no tweaking just about 4 or 5 shots each one.
Friend's Note 4 was ahead of all , easy to see this.
But the Z3 was very very good, I was surprised,after reading complaints, lol.
This Z3C had the very quiet Speakers, but good,Camera.
IMO the quality control needs to be higher and Software
Optimised for Carriers on 4G to 3G data, texts etc.
messaging, calls....
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Meh, Z3c camera's overrated IMO.
But the phone seems as solid as every other phone I've ever had. However, the materials seem a bit less lower quality than the 4s -- plastic sides, for example, and a lot of ports, buttons, flaps etc. which tends to make things feels a little less refined than the more minimalist iPhone.
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I couldn't agree more with that. I don't have owned a iPhone 4 but a friend of mine have a 4S and it fell already almost dozen times... Soles scratches but no crack at all, it's impressive considering all other iPhone cracked.
But the only that I regret on the Z3c is that it doesn't have the aluminium finish like his old brother and the volume button curved line Z Ultra. Maybe z4 ? Who knows... :sly:
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