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Battery stats with Standard and Extended Battery..

So, if you have two batteries, how does the system average the battery stats? They are two different animals and I doubt it's conducive to wipe the battery stats every time you want to use the standard battery or change to the extended battery.

abuttino said:
So, if you have two batteries, how does the system average the battery stats? They are two different animals and I doubt it's conducive to wipe the battery stats every time you want to use the standard battery or change to the extended battery.
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Actually, the extended batter is a Lithium Ion Battery, it doesn't need calibration because it doesn't have the "memory" that the Lithium Ion Polymer (standard battery) does.
Lithium Ion Batteries work best with a higher charge, so just keep it charged as much as possible.
If you switch back and forth between the 2 batteries, you need to calibrate the standard battery once, then you should be able to switch back and forth without issue.

Not exactly what I was talking about..
The "Wipe battery Stats" in CWR is what I was talking about.

abuttino said:
Not exactly what I was talking about..
The "Wipe battery Stats" in CWR is what I was talking about.
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Wiping battery stats in CWR is part of the calibration process.
You should charge it fully while the phone is off, then wipe stats in CWR, reboot, use the phone as normal until the battery dies, then charge it fully while it's on.
After that you can switch back and forth.
That calibration technique is for the standard battery. Like I said before, the extended battery needs no calibration.

Understood, but the thing is, won't it get confused by the two types of battery?

abuttino said:
Understood, but the thing is, won't it get confused by the two types of battery?
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Nope. The battery stats are only used for the Lithium Ion Polymer batteries.
The lithium ion battery has no memory. Just try to keep it fully charged as much as possible.

So, if I have a charger at my side, use it eh?

abuttino said:
So, if I have a charger at my side, use it eh?
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Yep yep yep.

One thing I've noticed that maybe Tivo7 can answer:
On the standard battery, when I would reboot my phone the battery life would drop. Say I was at 70% battery life, I'd restart phone and it would be at 50% or 40%..
On the extended battery, its the opposite. I'll be at 80% battery life, restart my phone, and it'll be at 100% for a few hours. And its done this half a dozen times for me. I've never actually seen the battery level do anything other than increase after a restart.
Is this phone just really bad at telling battery level? I know its difficult to accurately determine battery level (I've read that before) but this phone seems to be particularly bad at it.

astrogiblet said:
One thing I've noticed that maybe Tivo7 can answer:
On the standard battery, when I would reboot my phone the battery life would drop. Say I was at 70% battery life, I'd restart phone and it would be at 50% or 40%..
On the extended battery, its the opposite. I'll be at 80% battery life, restart my phone, and it'll be at 100% for a few hours. And its done this half a dozen times for me. I've never actually seen the battery level do anything other than increase after a restart.
Is this phone just really bad at telling battery level? I know its difficult to accurately determine battery level (I've read that before) but this phone seems to be particularly bad at it.
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That's a known issue and idk how to fix it or if it even needs fixed. I figure it just used a lot of battery to boot up.
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Tivo7 said:
That's a known issue and idk how to fix it or if it even needs fixed. I figure it just used a lot of battery to boot up.
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Well.. you read half my post.

astrogiblet said:
Well.. you read half my post.
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You're welcome for half of the help...geez not thankful at all. Good luck on your issue, I wont be on this thread again. Good day.
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Tivo7 said:
You're welcome for half of the help...geez not thankful at all. Good luck on your issue, I wont be on this thread again. Good day.
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I've thanked every post you've done in this thread.
And I was joking, don't be so negative.

astrogiblet said:
I've thanked every post you've done in this thread.
And I was joking, don't be so negative.
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Maybe I was joking too?
/ninja
But yeah idk how or why that happens or how to fix it. I just deal with it.
My extended battery is usually at like 60% by the end of the day after being charged overnight then used all day.
And I charge it every night so it rarely gets below like 50% unless I do a lot of apk editing and flashing that day.

Informative thread, learning has occurred for me...
I've been running the whole calibration procedure for my extended batt for no reason... Well, NOW I know..
Thanks gents...

TeufelTexan said:
I've been running the whole calibration procedure for my extended batt for no reason... Well, NOW I know...
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Same here, I've used the calibration app a few times and deleted battery data using CWM to see if it would resolve the inaccuracy problems.
Uninstalled the calibration app after I read this thread.
Also, although Lithium Ion Batteries don't have a memory effect, they do have one issue from charging:
High charge levels and elevated temperatures (whether from charging or ambient air) hasten capacity loss. Charging heat is caused by the carbon anode (typically replaced with lithium titanate which drastically reduces damage from charging, including expansion and other factors).
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source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery
So it may not be best to keep it at full charge at all times. I mean, I wouldn't go out of your way to charge it all the time.

Same here.I calibrated my extended a lot of times,Now I don't have to,

charge up or drain it during 1st use

for those who already had their one, i had a question.
i heard that for the 1st time, we need to charge it for around 8 hours right out from the box.
but i saw some users draining it out of the box then only charge it.
confused here

cle900706 said:
for those who already had their one, i had a question.
i heard that for the 1st time, we need to charge it for around 8 hours right out from the box.
but i saw some users draining it out of the box then only charge it.
confused here
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I don't think it makes a difference really. Mine came charged with 40%, I used it until it died then I charged it to 100% while it was off
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yvibes said:
I don't think it makes a difference really. Mine came charged with 40%, I used it until it died then I charged it to 100% while it was off
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then ur battery life is still awesome? :laugh:

cle900706 said:
then ur battery life is still awesome? :laugh:
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It should be and there should be no difference. This type of charging scheme only affects older types of battery that stores some memory of the charge. Unlike Li-Ion or Li-Po that doesn't rely on anything and just pushes out everything it has and accepts everything until it's limit.

My One came with about 70-80% battery so i used it for a day and then charged it fully as soon as it went down to about 9-10% Like the above post says, charging it straight out of the box only applies now a days to older phones with older batteries, hope this helped.

[Q] things to be done on battery after getting new htc one

I am new in HTC phones. I will get my htc one after 2 days, i mainly want to know about battery charging cycles. how can we do that to get maximum battery life. what is mean by battery calibration ? is the battery to be calibrated in every weak ? sorry for my bad english

Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone

Just use it. Charge it when you need to, charge it when you can, top up charge is fine. Calibration is a myth. You don't need to do anything or not do anything abnormal.
Letting it run out and leaving it empty is a bad idea. Charging it, turning it off, charging it, and whatever other voodoo is recommended is a bad idea.

Lol at two contradicting responses.
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asif9t9 said:
Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??

One charge for a day is enough for htc one if you don't play games

If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.

Riyal said:
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
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How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Guich said:
Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.

BenPope said:
Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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I don't use this method.
But my friend have a very good battery life with it.
So, why don't share?
I don't use it because i can't do this, it's simple

HTC One Battery Conditioning
sarathsnair said:
is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
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G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.

It's based on scientific facts.
When your battery has high load(Almost fully charged) more ions inside the battery are stored there hence doing alot of chemical changes in the battery. And chemical change is the only reason why our batteries here are losing it's capacity.
And the reason why I set 30% as the minimum is because you don't want your battery to be drained too much as there's likely chances that you'll completely drain it causing it to be broken also.
And why limit the examples on HTC One batteries? Is this a serious question or just a joke? We all know that HTC One was just released months ago and another obvious fact is it has a non removable battery. So obviously the answer would be none.
And about real life proofs about my usage and how it affects battery life do you want me to show you a nokia 3310 model still up and running for almost a 8 years now? Also want me to show you my nokia n900 which is already about 4 years now and still kicking it's battery perfectly up to now? I could have also showed you my n95 up and running till now if only it didn't break it's flex cable.
There's no such thing as integrated ticking time bomb on your battery(like rumors in the 20th century where they say electronic ICs have a hard coded date where they will totally shut off) where it would just instantly die once it reach it's recharge limit. What manufacturer in their right mind would do that? Smartphone business isn't a monopoly and every competitor would want the best of them all on their products. Also if this myth would have been true most people's device wouldn't even last a year due to plugging your phone on a computer would initiate a charge also. So would that mean that if I plug my phone on my PC 5x a day and charge it once a day it would only last roughly 6months? lol!
Also here's a good website that would backup my claim.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Partial and random charge is fine; does not need full charge; lower voltage limit preferred; keep battery cool.
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Prevent full cycles, apply some charge after a full discharge to keep the protection circuit alive.
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Keep cool, battery lasts longest when operating in mid state-of-charge of 20–80%. Prevent ultra-fast charging and high loads.
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BenPope said:
How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Did you read those websites? Because their numbers and yours don't agree. So either you made up the numbers or you obtained your scientific facts from elsewhere.

As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.

I thinks the powersave is the best route when not playing any games. If you play games then you can call it quits!
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OzBoy08 said:
G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
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milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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thank u so much

milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?

BenPope said:
Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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As much as I know, dont drain the battery too much the first time you take it out the box. All batteries comes with a little charge in it. Had a friend who used to work at a mobile company and I cant remember the term he used to describe that. But the first charge doesnt have to be exactly 8hrs. Phone might be fully charged after 4-6hrs if you hadnt used it much from the box. Just dont unplug it before it reaches 100% on the first charge. Let it get to full and leave it for another 10-15mins and its good to go.

Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.

anotherfakeusername said:
I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
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Some devices have this problem.
Mine not.
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Is the battery gauge mis-calibrated on the motox

I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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I've noticed it on a rather old device, a htc desire hd. (running a custom 4.4.2 rom) It lastest so long on 1%.
Probarly you need to re-calibrate your battery, after that it shouldn't get stuck on 1% anymore for such a long time

Jamolah said:
I keep noticing my battery will last hours on 1% charge. Has anybody else noticed this phenomenon on their phone?
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Once a month I recalibrate my battery, and it will sit on 1% for hours some times, and then only minutes the next it just depends. Just let it die then charge it to 100% uninterrupted. Normally they get uncalibrated after rom flashes and if you put it on a charger but don't let it charge to 100%.

I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Jamolah said:
I haven't put any ROMs on my phone. I'm still on stock Rogers rom.
How do I re-calibrate my battery?
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Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.

This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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iKrYpToNiTe said:
Let it die completely then let it charge to 100% before you turn it back on, that's my process.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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oeusr said:
This keeps happening to me too. Battery drains quickly then stays at 1% for several hours. Lasted at 1% for 4 hours yesterday. I've done the "let drain until powers off and charge to 100" a couple times now but it still happens
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Hmm that's odd never had that issue, I rarely go below 50% during the day.
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I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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It is if you do it every time, but not if you do it once a month or after a rom install.

jakereeves31 said:
I always heard that it's bad to let it die completely.
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When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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danny39 said:
When your phone dies, the battery doesn't completely die. Phones shut down before the battery is completely depleted in order to save a little bit of the battery. So if you let the phone shut down from low power and then charge it back up there shouldn't be any ill effects.
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Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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jakereeves31 said:
Yeah, I know that, but I was just saying what I've always heard from people
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This article is old but it explains why you shouldn't fully discharge a lithium-ion battery often! http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).

jayboyyyy said:
batteries don't fully discharge even when the phones dies as an above poster pointed out. If you were to let it die then leave it that way for a few weeks is when you will start to have problems. the lower the battery percentage is before charging is correlated with how many cycles your battery has. So draining to 70% then charging is better than draining to 30% then charging. The point in draining to 0 isn't to prolong the battery but to recalibrate the software determining what the percentage of the battery is. This will not have any worse of an impact on your battery then letting it drain to 10% then charging. Batteries may actually still have up 20% left when you fully discharge them because manufacturers don't want your battery to ever actually reach 0.
If you never discharge down to "0%" then charge to 100% then your phone can never properly calibrate your battery drain. It is always a guessing game for the software so doing a full discharge cycle gives it an updated benchmark to guess off of. The effects to the battery are not that big of a deal. If you read up enough on them you will find that to be true.
when the battery gets hot, that has a much bigger effect on its life than draining it to 0. But clearly if you drain to 0 every day then that will have a huge impact on battery life because you may only get 300 cycles out of it where as you might get 3000 if you only drained to 70% every day. (rough estimates, there is real data out there regarding then if you want to know the real numbers).
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I couldn't have paraphrased that article any better nice!

I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.

Wutang200 said:
I've noticed this in my Moto X. 1% lasts for a long time lol. Not that it's a bad thing but a little inaccurate if you ask me.
Ever since I've bought my Moto X, I've always let it die a few times then have charged it to 100% (full cycle) but it's not made any difference. Sounds like it's a bug in the software to me.
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did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.

I've experienced the same thing on my Moto X.
Something tells me that it's somehow related to poor battery life... But that's just expeculation.

jayboyyyy said:
did you charge it to 100% without turning it on? there may be battery stats (in a folder i can't remember but you can look it up) that you can delete to cause it to relearn battery level but i have read elsewhere that that theory is a myth and won't actually do anything.
IDK the logistics behind leaving your phone off, i just know i have done it both ways and it seems something else calibrates the battery when it is off that is not the android OS i guess but is the root level software for the phone or the bootloader or something. Im sure someone smarter than i could give a better explanation of the possible difference.
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I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.

Wutang200 said:
I always leave the phone off when charging fully. Have tried with it on too but same results.
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search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.

jayboyyyy said:
search around for the place where the battery stats are located. I think the file just may be in the cache but I know i read somewhere at some point about the location where the software stores its battery stats so that it can guess what your battery percentage is. Search for that and clear that folder out and see if it helps. I would do this right before my phone was about to die at 1% then do the cycle if i were you. But that is just how i would go about things.
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I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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jakereeves31 said:
I've heard people say that the stats reset themselves at 100%. But that's just what I've heard. Haha
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ya like i said earlier, i also did read that deleting that folder was pointless but who knows. If my phone was continuing to do what yours is then i would be trying all sorts of things that people said wouldn't work. Then i would throw the phone into beer, bc i can, bc this thing is pretty much waterproof as anything. SOmebody submerged the thing in water for 30 minutes and it was still running. So maybe throw your phone in beer as a last resort.

Is the quick charge harmful?

Hi, I'm using my samsung phone with quick charger, however, I saw some people discuss that quick charge is harmful to the phone, is that true? anyone can confirm about this?

fincx said:
Hi, I'm using my samsung phone with quick charger, however, I saw some people discuss that quick charge is harmful to the phone, is that true? anyone can confirm about this?
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I can't say that quick charge is harmful however what is usually not a great thing to do is to stick the phone on the charger all the time when there's plenty of power left. Like charging it from 80% to 100% is just wearing on the battery life faster and causing it to use an extra cycle.. Think of it like this say the phones battery can ONLY be charged a total of 100 times and that's IT no more it's dead after the 100 charge.. if you stick it on the charger at 95% and charge to 100% well now you just lost a cycle and you only have 99 charges left.. Wouldn't it have been better to use the entire battery power until it shuts off and then charge it?! Doing it this way actually extends the batteries life and keeps it working a lot better than constantly doing small charges.

fincx said:
Hi, I'm using my samsung phone with quick charger, however, I saw some people discuss that quick charge is harmful to the phone, is that true? anyone can confirm about this?
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Ive always been taught that the faster u charge a battery the less charge it holds. And decreases the life span faster. That slower is always better on lifespan.
The added heat from quik charge also puts strain on device if being used at same time.
Just my opinion

Ive googled this and according to some psyhics, it doesnt matter how fast the electrons get to 3,000 mah. What really harms the battery is getting above 90% and below 10%. Everytime you get to 100% it counts as an cycle, and batterys have a limited life cycle. My orignal barttery went bad after 11 months...degraded from 3000 mah to 2,200. I manually replaced the battery myself

djhulk2 said:
Ive googled this and according to some psyhics, it doesnt matter how fast the electrons get to 3,000 mah. What really harms the battery is getting above 90% and below 10%. Everytime you get to 100% it counts as an cycle, and batterys have a limited life cycle. My orignal barttery went bad after 11 months...degraded from 3000 mah to 2,200. I manually replaced the battery myself
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this is also true
i just personally dont think its good on them to quickly dump voltage to them either

Not sure it will harmful to the battery life span, but sometimes I charge my phone to 100% and continue, so this will also harmful to battery?

You can just not use your phone battery at all. Once lithuim ion batterys reach 100 thats it, they then drain from your electricty So by turning on your power case when uts at 100%, the phone drains from the case. Of course if your using like an 1amp charger, theb battery will drain if using while plugged in., because the screen is eating more energy than the 1 amp can provide

Batteries are cheap....replacing them isn't that difficult. I got 20 months from my original battery(always fast charged).
If I get the same from the replacement then it's all good.
Use the phone....that's why you bought it.
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Yes, forcing a lithium battery above it's operating voltage, something like 4.7v with a 5v to over come is ok. But 9v!?!? That's degraded it's performance. In the great scheme of things does it really matter? Probably not, chances are you will get a new phone in a year or so anyways and thats about when the battery fails.

Oops

I don't want to change the battery, and for now, more and more phone come with battery non-removable, it's not a good choose to change battery.

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I don't want to change the battery, and for now, more and more phone come with battery non-removable, it's not a good choose to change battery.
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Yes but how often? Every two years maybe?
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Yes but how often? Every two years maybe?
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I have never changed my battery since I owned my samsung s5 two years ago.
So how often will you change you battery? it is because the battery unavailable?

djhulk2 said:
Ive googled this and according to some psyhics, it doesnt matter how fast the electrons get to 3,000 mah. What really harms the battery is getting above 90% and below 10%. Everytime you get to 100% it counts as an cycle, and batterys have a limited life cycle. My orignal barttery went bad after 11 months...degraded from 3000 mah to 2,200. I manually replaced the battery myself
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It's difficult? Could i ask you which battery to buy and where you bought it?

Its only hard if u want to keep your glass back. I tore up and shattered mine and dont care because my phone is always in a case, so youll never see the back. Got the oem battery from ebay for around 10 dollars. Then its just a matter of taking out all the screws, connecting the really small connector, and screwing back tightly. Like you need put pressure on screen when putting back together because for example volume down button might not work if press 2 lightly

It's easy, use a heat gun and the simple tools. Took me 20 mins and I didn't break anything. Just bought the battery off eBay
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