New Type Screen Protector - Galaxy Note II Accessories

Has anyone yet tried out this "new type" of screen protector yet?
http://www.cultofandroid.com/26901/...or-borrows-technology-from-bulletproof-glass/
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Sounds neat, but anyone describing a screen protector as 'magic self healing' as a technology makes me skeptical.
I look forward to someone else reviewing it!

My screen is so hard it doesn't pick up scratches. Extra layers are just extra junk. Now if it provides some protection from breakage that would be useful. If I drop it on the ground is it any less likely to crack?
I don't disbelieve the article though. They have been working on self healing films for a few years. You can get self healing clear coat and paint on some cars. Maybe this would be useful for a construction worker who has to touch his screen with abrasive sandy grit. That WILL scratch our screen even though car keys and normal handling doesn't.
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I'd be interested to see how it heals scratches after some real abuse, like sandpaper. Keys and such are a worthless test at this point. It seems everyone has moved to something that can prevent scratching from those. But even the best current screens can't stop being scratched by a single grain of sand in your pocket. That alone is why I use screen protectors. It's not like I roll around in a sand dune then put the phone in my pocket, but even being VERY careful with a prior "Gorilla Glass" type screen, I got a couple scratches on it from sand. The only "glass" I know of that can prevent that is the Sapphire crystal that you can get on nicer watches. Those are probably far too expensive to use on phones.
For now, I'm using a Clarivue glass protector. It's really nice, but does have some tiny lifting at the top corners. And it will scratch from sand, like any glass. But it's a lot cheaper and easier to replace the protector than the phone screen.

This is the only video of it I can currently find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hosHv5k0IKI&feature=player_detailpage#t=764s
Not much of a review but it does show the "self healing" capability against a wire brush.
I'm considering getting one as I haven't yet bought a screen protector for my phone but feel I should do at some point.

KEYofR said:
My screen is so hard it doesn't pick up scratches. Extra layers are just extra junk. Now if it provides some protection from breakage that would be useful. If I drop it on the ground is it any less likely to crack?
I don't disbelieve the article though. They have been working on self healing films for a few years. You can get self healing clear coat and paint on some cars. Maybe this would be useful for a construction worker who has to touch his screen with abrasive sandy grit. That WILL scratch our screen even though car keys and normal handling doesn't.
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I think that it is great that you don't pick up scratches but some people keep the phone in their pocket with keys, coins and other crap so something like this does make sense. I may try to go to a T-Mobile store and check it out.

DocEsq said:
I think that it is great that you don't pick up scratches but some people keep the phone in their pocket with keys, coins and other crap so something like this does make sense. I may try to go to a T-Mobile store and check it out.
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So do I of course.
Keys and coins don't hurt this screen.
They haven't hurt most screens the last few years. My og evo after 2 years of rough careless handling with no case or screen protector was scratched up but only lightly and not enough to matter. That is, a lot of fine scratches but none of them deep, and the screen is still clear so they don't matter in any functional way. And it took 2 years to even get that way and it's not worth anything by then to try to sell it even if it were new and never used. My evo lte after 1 year of the same did even better and is almost unblemished. Only 1 year but it looks better than the og evo did at 1 year. My girlfriends iphone4 after 2 years of the same looks almost unblemished, although she handles hers a little more carefully than I do, but still, no screen protector and it rubs up on keys and hair clips and paper clips and coins in her purse and in the cup holder in the car.
The lest few years of hard glass screens are very hard just for this reason and they work pretty well.
The reason I mentioned sand is that sand or other hard mineral abrasive will scratch it. Most metals won't. Especially not chrome plated brass keys or copper/silver alloys in coins. My stainless steel multitool doesn't even. The tungsten carbide cutting wheel of a glass cutter would with enough concerted pressure.

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My review on invsibleSHIELD and zaGGskin

Hey everyone,
I recently purchases a custom zagg skin and the invsibleSHIELD ,
The zaggskin is easy to put on the back of your HD2 , its a little bit smaller, but that makes the process of putting it on easier (It took me like 2 min?),
Before the invsibleSHIELD I tried various screen-protectors , but I always had bubbles or dust underneath them.
With the invsibleSHIELD I just followed instructions , and volla , no airbubles, no dust , its makes the screen even brighter.
One negative point about it, its pricey , i ordered mine during Memorial Day (50 percent off),
Regards,
PS: Sorry for my bad english
How can a cover make the screen brighter? Are these skins polarized or something? I'm curious.
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
invisible shield
i wont take the chance of scratching my screen even if its impossible
invisible shield is not only on the front but on the back too.
its less sensitive for oily fingerprints - maybe that is why it looks a little bit brighter than without. before i had it, it was difficult to see in sunlight and now its better.
plus, the device wont slip of your hand, again do to the back cover.
so, i recommend invisible shield sincerely
cheers
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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My zagg sheild pretty much rendered my HD2 useless. The screen was really desensitized way too much. I'm not surprised...the zagg shield is so thick and durable that if I didn't have to "touch use" my screen, it would have been perfect. I ended up tearing of the $20+ protector and discarding it...
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No problems here, and the screen protector isn't that thick, its just even thick like any other screen protector ,
Munto said:
All this is rubbish, I understand the need for a big silicon or hard cover to protect your phone from drops but what is the point of the invisible shield when you cant scratch the phone anyway. There is no way it can make the screen brighter, or make you see better in the sun.
Some screen protector companies even claimed that only the person looking right at the device can see the screen, so therefore if someone was trying to peak over to see what you are doing they couldn't, well I ordered that and obviously it is not true not even slightly dimmed from the sides. so don't believe everything they say.
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search.
Spending $10-20 on a quality screen protector is probably the cheapest insurance you could get to protect your screen if/when you scratch the protector and the scratch becomes unbearable, spend $10-20 on a new one
Though Ive not seen one before for mobile phones, there are privacy screens for laptop/desktop monitors. These screens significantly blur the image unless you are directly in front of the screen, if you tilt the screen more than 10degrees or so the screen will blur. These are used a lot in medical/financial institutions, sensitive departments within companies like HR. Ive seen these appearing on ATMs now too
I will agree there is no protector that will make your screen "brighter" that's just about impossible, anything put over the screen is actually going to attenuate any light coming though it, though it may not be perceivable. Certain protectors may eliminate screen glare, making the screen easier to see in certain lighting conditions
ohhh yeah, believe me the screen CAN be scratched! got two very nice ones to prove it. lol
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The HD2 screen can be scratched, there are examples of it on this forum, just search. ....
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Well about the brighter , i have the the shield now for a week, the screen looks better because there are no fingerprints on the screen , further its scrolls smoother
Sorry but I'd stay clear from Zagg's Invisible Shiled as it is not really effective nor fully stand their claim "as advertised".
After 3-4 months of use (in tropical countries or desert areas), the sands/dirts snug into the linings, then started to peel off little by little.
Had this product on my Fuze and then my Topaz a while back, not very happy about it.
The only good things about the product is (1)fancy retail packaging, and (2)their screen protector. Sorry.
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
erosennin said:
This cover is useless. I removed it after a couple of hours. What's the use of having a screen protector that doesn't cover the whole screen? Apart from the fact that it makes the screen look ugly.
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It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
Dangerously said:
It needs to sit for at least 12 or more hours to let the solution and bubbles disappear. If you had it on for a couple of hours and not days, then you did not read the instructions If applied properly you should not see it. If it looks ugly, it was not done properly or you did not let it cure long enough before using the device.
I have noticed that not all of the plastic used with Zagg products seem to be the same. I have applied one on my Tilt2 (aka. Touch Pro 2) and it did not feel like the texture of an "orange peal" like I have seen written in some reviews. I no longer have the Invisa Shield on the screen as it started to come up on the edges by the chrome phone edging causing lint, dust, etc. to collect under. I also noticed it turn a slight yellow. The colour change was odd as I don't smoke or hang out with smokers. It could be from rubbing against the lining of my leather case I kept it in (although it has a black lining).
At my work we have a Zagg promo for Apple iPads and this is where I have come across the "orange peal" texture on a few of the installs. I don't think it is due to improper install as we always use the same solution and method of install for each one.
In short:
the pros: it protects well against scratches and minimizes the look of finger prints
the cons: could gain a yellow tinge after several months, not easy to remove dust/dirt if it gets under edges, and not easy to apply first time around for most.
My advice for capacitive screens is to not spend lots on a screen protector. The cheep vinyl protectors may not look as good but will work just as well. Remember: all capacitive screens are made of glass which will not scratch under normal use. If you keep your phone in your pocket, the chances for scratching will increase as sand or tiny bits of gravel can collect in the lining and rub against the screen. Even keys can scratch if enough pressure is applied. For those who saw the YouTube HD2 scratch test, did you see how much pressure was applied to the keys, knife, and scissors? Not enough to scratch it, add enough and it will...
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How many times there have to be said that this capacitive screen is not made from GLASS, there are enough people one the web which HD2 got scratched, believe they will scratch
I have the full body zagg skin. Gotta say it's great. Simple to apply and really keeps the device from getting scratched. Even protects the corner. Don't get what the complaint above was about. It covers the screen so wtf are you talking about? Only thing I wish they'd fix is that you can't apply a skin or case over it. If you do it'll get stuck to it unless it's like a cloth case or something. Hope they fix that issue one day. Still not bad, plus I did like the OP and ordered on Memorial Day for like 12 dollars.
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
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ilordvader said:
How does it cover the Back ?
in 3 parts does it ?
thanks
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ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
Jalaluddin said:
ya, but it does not cover 100 percent
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Can someone post some pics
front & back to get a idea how it looks
Thanks
Glue softens
I have to say I was happy for around 5 months - until it started to get warmer. Then the glue started to soften and smear out from under the shield. It made the screen look a bit of a mess and ultimatly the corners started to flap about because all of the glue had gone. Contacted Zagg customer support and they admitted this can happen when warm and humid. They suggested I use their replacement service but why should I pay around 6€ for postage in both directions if as soon as it gets warm it will be a mess again. Not very impressed. I'll stick to the electrostatic screen shields in the future. Can anybody recommend one?

[Q] Captivate Gorilla Glass not the same as the other Galaxy S phones?

I have friends who have the Vibrant, Epic, and Captivate. All the screens look good, but the Captivate already has a tiny scratch.
Now nothing is indestructible, but then i found this video on youtube which made me think, is the glass different on each phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EimSyAIuDoI
I put an invisible shield on my phone which made it "orange-peely" and finally after seeing a number of tests on the glass, including putting the phone into a bag of metal shards and nails and screws and mashing it up, I decided to take it off. I have been using the phone since it was released now, with only a couple days in invisishield and I've had it in my pocket with my keys the whole time and the screen is flawless. Dropped it at least a couple times (I have a case on it, but nothing protecting the screen otherwise).
I dunno. It would suck major ass to get the screen scratched, so it's probably smart to put one on, but the screen seems solid. I don't know if I'd trust a video from the company that makes invisishield, honestly. It's kind of like the cigarette companies telling congress that they swear, they aren't harmful or addictive.
Mine was in the boot of a moped I laid down a couple weeks ago in the bahamas...not a mark.
Also in my shorts' pocket with grains of sand through the vacation (it's sticky down there)...i wouldn't put my keys in the same pocket though, that's just asking for trouble.
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I too had a screen protector I bought from Seidio. They really have a poor implementation of how to apply the plastic and I could never get the edges to stick even after applying pressure for 15-20 mins. Anyway, I ended up taking the screen protector of after seeing a Korean video of a I9000 getting demolished in various ways and not getting a scratch (up until the moment when they applied a knife directly to the screen and when they dropped it from about 5-6 ft). I have an Amzer case and for the past 3 weeks I have not had a single scratch. That includes incidents with keys or my wallet chain, or the occasional faceplant to the floor. I really think the captivate has at least comparable glass to the gorilla-class glass.
LMAOOO dude in video says "lets make this natural as if you dropped it", then presses and slides it accross concrete...
LMAOOO nothing can withstant a scratch from that not even steel.lol
I have a small scratch after dropping a coin on the screen tried to put invisoble shield but it is ****ty, so i decided to keep it naked, still better than with bubbles and dust..
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I can tell you that the samsung rep shows off the glass to at&t reps, and they rscratch it with kruss to show the durability. It is as advertised.
Mine is scratched, and I didn't do anything except put it in my pocket. No keys and no coins. So this gorilla glass stuff isn't impenetrable.
Paladuck said:
Mine is scratched, and I didn't do anything except put it in my pocket. No keys and no coins. So this gorilla glass stuff isn't impenetrable.
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Same here. No idea how but I managed to get two scratches on the screen. No big deal.
I had a screen protector, but got sick of it quick. It s been 3-4 weeks and no scratches. Only protection I have on it is the Bodyglove case. I try to make sure I don't put it in the same pocket I have my keys in though. I'm guessing the scratches a lot of people get are from the sharp edges of a key. A razor will scratch gorilla glass and I've had keys in the past that were pretty sharp on some of the points.
Wait until PETA finds out they're making glass out of gorillas!
skinien said:
Wait until PETA finds out they're making glass out of gorillas!
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The iPhone gets superior glass made out of endangered mountain gorillas, while we are stuck with inferior product made from the common lowland gorillas.
Hate to break it to you, but Gorilla Glass isn't magical. Just look at the iPhone 4. It's a scratch magnet. Definitely the easiest iphone to scratch by miles. The captivate is the exact same glass, and guess what??? It's scratchable.
From everything I've seen, Gorilla Glass (or the coating on the glass) is very succeptable to micro scratches. Usually vertical scratches (along the grain of the glass) around 1mm to 2mm long. That's what my first Captivate screen did within a day of normal use. I took it back and got another phone and a butt load of screen protectors. My iPhone 4 did the same thing, but seemed to be much easier to scratch. My buddy's Captivate has a scratch that is almost identical to my first Captivate, but more toward the middle of the screen.
I think Gorilla Glass is as close to a full on failed experiment in mobile devices as we've seen recently. I would take the material that the iPhone 3GS screen was made of any day of the week.
I expect to be using this hand-held for the next two years, so within a few days I put on a shield dry as instructed. Hated the bubbles for two weeks before trying water; not much better. Then tried some glasses cleaner from the WalMart vision center; can't even tell the shield is there. Water beaded, but the clener coated and squigyed ou nicely.
Any glass will scratch and out here in the country I don't live or work in a clean environment...
Divinedark said:
Hate to break it to you, but Gorilla Glass isn't magical. Just look at the iPhone 4. It's a scratch magnet. Definitely the easiest iphone to scratch by miles. The captivate is the exact same glass, and guess what??? It's scratchable.
From everything I've seen, Gorilla Glass (or the coating on the glass) is very succeptable to micro scratches. Usually vertical scratches (along the grain of the glass) around 1mm to 2mm long. That's what my first Captivate screen did within a day of normal use. I took it back and got another phone and a butt load of screen protectors. My iPhone 4 did the same thing, but seemed to be much easier to scratch. My buddy's Captivate has a scratch that is almost identical to my first Captivate, but more toward the middle of the screen.
I think Gorilla Glass is as close to a full on failed experiment in mobile devices as we've seen recently. I would take the material that the iPhone 3GS screen was made of any day of the week.
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The iPhone is not Gorilla Glass. iPHone uses a hardened silica glass, and Gorilla Glass is made by corning and in their demos is superior to soda glass and silica glass.
Gorilla Glass is not indestructible, but it is also not in the iPhone 4.
I just got a captivate that had a ton of little scratches on the screen out of the box. So much so that the screen has a very rough texture to it. Needless to say I'm returning it, but it just goes to show that the gorilla glass is definitely susceptible to scratches.
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I sure would love to see some photos of all these scratched screens. I was in the AT&T store today and three were on display all beaten to hell but the glass was still flawless.
Now, having said that, the easiest way to scratch this (or any) glass is to put another piece of glass on top of it. Say, for example, laying the phone face down on a glass table. The glass will pull towards one another and if there are specs of dust, dirt, etc on either of the pieces, guess what's going to get dragged across the surface when you go to pick it up...
alphadog00 said:
The iPhone is not Gorilla Glass. iPHone uses a hardened silica glass, and Gorilla Glass is made by corning and in their demos is superior to soda glass and silica glass.
Gorilla Glass is not indestructible, but it is also not in the iPhone 4.
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From what I've read, the aluminosilicate screen is so similar to Gorilla Glass that it's still unverified if Corning isn't behind the iPhone 4. I'm not contesting your point. I was just going off of what I read. Either way, they both scratched in near identical ways, in nearly the exact time frame, from the same type of usage...
http://www.tested.com/news/whats-so-special-about-iphone-4s-aluminosilicate-glass/429/
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I sure would love to see some photos of all these scratched screens. I was in the AT&T store today and three were on display all beaten to hell but the glass was still flawless.
Now, having said that, the easiest way to scratch this (or any) glass is to put another piece of glass on top of it. Say, for example, laying the phone face down on a glass table. The glass will pull towards one another and if there are specs of dust, dirt, etc on either of the pieces, guess what's going to get dragged across the surface when you go to pick it up...
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I would be more than happy to send you a picture of the phone I took back to the store for the scratched screen... The device was working perfectly at the time, so I was in no rush to get rid of it. The scratch was too distracting to live with.
I'm mostly curious what people are doing with their phones to get so many scratches. I've had mine since release, no screen protector and still no scratches. Have dropped the phone a couple times were it landed face down. I do have a cheap silicon case but that's it heh. Usually carry in my front pocket. Occasionally it ends up in same pocket with my keys/change. So how are so many other people getting scratches, I just don't get it heh.
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Scratches! help!

Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers
Should've put a screen protector immediately when you got it.
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you may find adding a protector now will hide the scratches if they are small enough
They may be superficial. Did you try some good rubbing with a lint free cloth. I had no sp for the longest with no scratches
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crackster said:
Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers
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sadly NO, If it makes you feel any better my Note always has a case on and just once i removed it for 5 minutes, I manage to drop the phone on a concrete now my screen is scratched thank good the glass didn't break.
I have a scratch on my Galaxy Note also :/ I've only just had it for a week. I only noticed the scratch when I was about to put the screen protector on. I think it happened due to me showing my sister my phone, and she gave my phone to my TWO year old niece to draw on :/ I'm so upset and angry about it. I've dropped my HTC Desire HD many times and not a single scratch.
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I have a tiny little scratch on my note as well. Its no big deal because it can't be seen unless you direct it to the light at a certain angle but it still bugs me.
It seems like the scratch was made with the s pen as it has the pattern of something I had drawn when I was trying out the s pen.
I'll be getting a screen film soon to avoid any further scratches.
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I got a 1mm deep scratch on my screen to
again always had a cover on it and when i took the cover off ... guess what .. it fell on its face and got the scratch.
Now i have the flip cover on it and wouldn't risk taking it off again.
As they mention : Gorilla grass is scratch resistant only.
Look up 'Displex' - it's the best scratch remover there is, and it's cheap too.
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This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.
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This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.
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Clear floor polish works on harder clear plastic. Never tried on glass. WOrth trying for $10 from local supermarket. And then put a cover on it
I'm lucky so far - only scratches have been on the screen protectors. But then I need to replace them - used up two so far, and good quality 6H ones too! Better than a scratched glass though - sorry to hear about that!

Nexus 10 invisibleSHIELD Available

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Looks like they got the full body one and just the screen protector... been waiting for these!
I've put one of these on my Nexus S, but never on something as big as a tablet... hopefully it's just as easy.
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
edgeicator said:
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Where's the best place to get them and is there a warranty?
Online on their respective websites, bestskinsever.com, xoskins,com, etc. They all have lifetime warranties I believe.
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There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
NLPUNITED said:
Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
DaveWW00 said:
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
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Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Yeah, so put it in a case before putting it in your pocket, like the guy was saying.
You do that, you don't really need a screen protector.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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I've helped friends install InvisibleShield on various phones, and despite a pristine install, I really never could stand the feel of one of these instead of the bare glass. When I got my Galaxy Nexus a year ago, I checked the reviews again, looked at friends' phones with screen protectors (including Zagg) and came away with the same impression -- makes sense, since they're probably using the same 3M protective film (used on leading edge of helicopter rotors, car bras, etc.)
Despite the horror stories and photos of screens destroyed with "invisible sand", I decided to chance it with the GNex so I could really enjoy the screen as it was intended to be used. The only protection the phone has ever had on it is the 2-piece (silicone inner with plastic shell) Incipio case that Verizon was selling. The screen has been bare for a year.
The phone is generally with me from 6am till bedtime. I travel frequently for work -- the phone gets jammed in a pants pocket, jacket pocket, placed in a cup holder in my car, I've dropped it 3 times (happily the Incipio was sufficient protection). I've had it on camping trips, and on our last two vacations at the beach the phone came along with me every day.
Point is: the Galaxy Nexus screen is not even true Gorilla Glass, but an unspecified "fortified glass" that Samsung used instead back then. Assumptions are that real Gorilla Glass is more scratch resistant, and Gorilla Glass 2 is an even better product. With all considered, my Galaxy Nexus has no visible scratches -- and I DO check it carefully, as flaws like that tend to bug me. I've taken a chance with the phone, but in the end I'm SO happy that I have been able to fully enjoy the phone as it was intended, rather than have to drag my finger across a slightly rubbery, slightly orange-peely, surface any time I want to use it.
In my own use, a tablet would subject to less potential scratching and wear than my phone. I'm careful with my tech equipment -- but I use it heavily, and I want to enjoy it to the fullest. So far, protectors like Zagg's product do more to compromise my experience than the protection is worth to me. Everyone uses their devices in their own fashion, some are rougher on them than others or more accident prone, and some live in sandier climates... Obviously each has to decide what makes sense for his/her self. For me, considering my usage patterns -- the state of the art of screens and screen protectors is such that I generally won't use one, and I haven't regretted it yet.

Mother told me to use protection, but I'm going full on nude...

I've gone through a few different cases and sleeves now. But while changing cases recently, I happened to stop and look at my Nexus without any protection. It felt a lot thinner and looked freaking sexy. I don't know if I'm crazy, but I think I'm going to go naked (minus a screen protector).
Is anyone else here using their Nexus without a case or cover? What has your experience been?
I use mine most of the time naked heh. But put it in a cheap fake leather smart cover case when I take it anywhere, and then take it out usually to use it.
Naked with a screen protector. I have a roocase for travel. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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using a TPU case, just because when I play, it gets really hot...
I was lightly using my tablet naked for the first time today and it was amazing. Call me crazy, but the extra thinness that I got from removing my hardshell case was a totally new experience.
What has your experience been like? Is your Nexus damaged as a result of not using a case?
I use it naked too. Not even a screen protector yet. Not sure how i feel about sticking a plastic sheet on it. The screen already looks kinda dim and washed colors.
For when not in use, I have on the way a Peli hard case.
Naked here as well, but I'm in the market for a hard-case / sturdy case for transportation mode. I hate screenprotectors (I never can get them on without dust/bubbles) they make any device they're applied to less responsive in my opinion. For now the tablet is mainly used indoors, but I'm planning to start using it outdoors for photography purposes (combined with dslr controller app).
Naked, no issues yet.
If it's getting hot when gaming, a case isn't going to make that any better...
Haven't put a screen protector on my HTC ONE X phone or the N7 as I feel their screens are good enough. Use a case so I can do stuff while using the N7 as I have a badly damaged shoulder and arm.
If I used my 'good arm' to support the N7 i can't do much else so a case that stands up in portrait or landscape is a must for me. I guess for others it probably isn't a hassle to use an arm to hold the N7. At least I get medical insurance for my injury so I can afford goodies like this which helps me pass time less painfully when the kids and wife aren't keeping me busy ;D
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I use mine fully naked, no screen protector or anything. I got a caselogic sleeve for transporting and wrap it in a microfiber cloth mostly to keep dust off and having it handy to wipe fingerprints and stuff off
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There are some brave people on these forums. I could never use my tab without a screen protector. I'd be too paranoid. As for dropping my tab, I haven't dropped an electronic device in years so I'm not too worried about that.
What's the best practice to keep the microfiber cloths clean? They do gather dust and small particles in time which can scratch the screen when using them? Is it enough just to shake them really hard or need to wash them often?
i use mine naked prefer it, i also use glasses cleaning wipes to clean my screen cheep to
My Nexus 7 and galaxy S3 are used naked.
I got a great case on Amazon that is a wallet, a handgrip thing, and has a smart cover so it locks when i close it. i only paid $10 for it.
It looks a bit cheap in the picture but when you actually get it its nice.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008UZW8XY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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What's the best practice to keep the microfiber cloths clean? They do gather dust and small particles in time which can scratch the screen when using them? Is it enough just to shake them really hard or need to wash them often?
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A quick google search says the most practical way is to hand wash them in a bucket of warm water, let soak for 1 hour and hang dry if they are small, which they probably are. No real reason to put a couple of small microfiber cloths in the washer and dryer unless you really want to. Also you SHOULD NOT wash them with other loads. They pick up and hold dust/dirt and if there are other clothes then they will just pick up and hold that from washer and dryer, which would probably make them dirtier than cleaner.
I just received a fantastic case that works well with the naked tab. It doubles as a stand. I'll post a review in the next week or so.
I always go naked with my devices. I think about cases and sometimes they sound nice but in the end I like the slimness, the less extra bs to worry about.
I tap all my bitc-I mean... Devices raw.
I'm thinking of strapping the N7 up, though. She's wifey material...
http://android-gz.com
I'm not a nexus never-nude either.
Have a timbuk2 envelope for when it's in my bag, and prob going to order a rickshaw sleeve so I can slip it in and out of my messenger bag's fortuitously N7-sized outer compartment easier but with some padding.
But when actually using it, no case, no screen protector. I don't want bubbles, don't want adhesive residue, don't want a less smooth surface for my mesh stylus and fingers, don't want a less-clear screen...
And I like the nexus' grippy back, sexy design (everyone who sees it says oooh is that the iPad mini? How are you liking your iPad mini? Fools :laugh: )
I can however see benefit of a case for those who don't mind bulk, but I don't see much point in screen protectors...

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