I recently was sent a text message that was over 160 characters from an iPhone to my HTC One, and I noticed that the iPhone doesn't separate the messages into 160 character msgs, or the HTC one - for one reason or another - didn't get the rest of the message as a second text.
Is there some setting within the phone to accept text messages greater than 160 (which would be an MMS, no?) or is it the iPhone that sucks balls here and isn't breaking them apart?
I only ask because texts from Mom are greater than 160 characters...
djuno said:
I recently was sent a text message that was over 160 characters from an iPhone to my HTC One, and I noticed that the iPhone doesn't separate the messages into 160 character msgs, or the HTC one - for one reason or another - didn't get the rest of the message as a second text.
Is there some setting within the phone to accept text messages greater than 160 (which would be an MMS, no?) or is it the iPhone that sucks balls here and isn't breaking them apart?
I only ask because texts from Mom are greater than 160 characters...
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Anytime the HTC ONE receives an SMS message that is multi part it holds the message back until it receives all parts then in case of receiving out of order it reassembles them in the correct order and gives it to you as ONE text message. This is true for SMS which goes up to 4 or 6 160 length messages before it can't do SMS and sends it as an MMS. I say 4 or 6 because I have seen phone models and carrier vary on this.
tws101 said:
Anytime the HTC ONE receives an SMS message that is multi part it holds the message back until it receives all parts then in case of receiving out of order it reassembles them in the correct order and gives it to you as ONE text message. This is true for SMS which goes up to 4 or 6 160 length messages before it can't do SMS and sends it as an MMS. I say 4 or 6 because I have seen phone models and carrier vary on this.
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How sure are you on this? I just had a coworker send me a full text from an iPhone (when you send via iPhone it looks like one giant text > 160 characters) and I only received the first 160 characters. Couple minutes later and still no more of the text. Also, could this be dependent on your carrier?
djuno said:
How sure are you on this? I just had a coworker send me a full text from an iPhone (when you send via iPhone it looks like one giant text > 160 characters) and I only received the first 160 characters. Couple minutes later and still no more of the text. Also, could this be dependent on your carrier?
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I can't be 100% certain with regard to the carrier question. I am on Sprint
However I am relatively sure the phone is receiving the SMS not giving a notification waiting for the muti part SMS to all be delivered and then giving ONE notification for the entire thing. (Not one per part)
The reason I don't think this has anything to do with the carrier is the fact that this is the only Sprint Network phone I have ever used that did this. All others (phones same network) would deliver the SMS one part at a time a notification for each part and sometimes out of order.
I would ask you to retest and see if anything changes.
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I just received an SMS with 272 characters in one message. The cutoff used to be 160 characters. Any message longer than that would be split into two messages.
Is this just a fluke or are they trying to offer something more for raising text prices? Can anyone else confirm this?
SMSing is limited by the technology, not the provider. Maybe that was two messages linked up?
within the body of the SMS you must see sometihn like 1 of 2 and 2 of 2. this will tell you if there are one or 2 SMS you have received, and weer combine into one long message. But the aggreagtion only happens in your phone. I receive 5 SMS and when I read them it's only 1 message.
thats so crazy.. i didnt kno that windows did that..
another reason why WM6 beats everything
Pretty much all modern phones do this now...
AFAIK its still 160 characters.... or at least for me.
Seems SMS messages are restricted to 160 characters on my Diamond, anything over and it goes into a second SMS. Is there a way to extend this?
I've searched the forum, but I couldn't find a solution... either that or my searching skills are nil points
even if you changed it on your end. the received phone would still split the message.
You sure? I don't understand. I could type bigger texts than this on my old phones. Isn't there new versions of SMS that support more characters that have been out for a few years now? Or am I missing something?
hoolak said:
You sure? I don't understand. I could type bigger texts than this on my old phones. Isn't there new versions of SMS that support more characters that have been out for a few years now? Or am I missing something?
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It is called email
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service
SMS is restricted to 160 characters each message. That isn't something with the Diamond but a limitation of the protocol -always, on every phone-. that's why it is called SMS: "SHORT message service".
Most modern phones, including the Diamond, are sending multiple messages to overcome this limit. In most cases the receiving phones are able to combine those segmented messages.
So, perhaps some settings (on you Diamond, or more likely on the other end) are mixed up.
So I just ignore the fact I can type text messages over 160 characters on my old LG/Sony phones without having to send two messages and get used to the fact my futuristic Diamond can't?
aaah, maybe it's an optical illusion. I just feel I'm having to send shorter text since getting this phone. Maybe I should reduce my font text size to help me from feeling/seeing things lol. Excuse my loco'ness.
As I said, your Diamond will overcome this restriction by dividing your text in seperate messages, you have to do nothing, just type what you want to type. If you are not able to do so, search for any relevant settings. I guess your Diamond isn't much different from mine, and mine is intelligent enough to do the job on its own.
Yeah, it will go over 160. So, if I do, the recipient will receive two (or more) text messages?
hoolak said:
Yeah, it will go over 160. So, if I do, the recipient will receive two (or more) text messages?
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Techically: yes. But he/she also did with messages send with your old phone. It all depends on the phone and settings used by the recipient if it actually shows up as seperate messages or if they will be combined again.
cheers. I shall put it to the test by text my girlfriends phone! Huzzah!
Succes! (and as this forum has a restriction of AT LEAST 10 characters, I type some nonsense as well )
Just send an MMS, its cheaper than two SMS (at least with my german contract) and you can send 300KB of text. That should cover even the longest short message ;-)
Well my phone contract allows me unlimited text messages (sms). I just didn't want to confuse ppl with my 2 part texts.
I did the test. Sent a text 180-odd characters long (Diamond said '2 messages').. received on a Sony Ericsson all contained in 1 text message. Damn you Diamond for making me flap.
You really don';t get it do you?
When you had to pay for your sms, you'd get really expensive.
Technically, in the 'mobile phone world', a SMS-message CAN NOT BE longer than 160 characters.
Not a single phone can do that.
So when your girls phone sais 1 message, it cleverly combines your 2 sent messages.
Send it to a ericsson t28
No, I really didn't get it, but now I do thanks to my thirst for knowledge and the helpful people of this forum.
Sorry if my lack of SMS protocol knowledge appauled you
I'm using the stock AT&T rom on my Tilt. I never had that little blue line above the counter that shows how many characters out of 160 I have used in my SMS message. Why did it just pop up now? I've had my phone for months! When I surpass the 160 number, a message pops up that says "Two Messages". How do I turn that thing off. I don't like it. The only thing I did was download and install Skyfire. If I uninstall, do ya think that will help?
It's a limitation of SMS itself. They can only be up to 106 characters.
Wilhelm said:
It's a limitation of SMS itself. They can only be up to 106 characters.
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Correct.
whch is y u c msgs like this
Interestingly, Verizon has worked around this for their customers and if messages exceed 160 characters, even though it actually flies through the air as more than one message, both phones view it as one message. The limit has always been 160 characters. Both phones have to be Verizon.
That makes it $0.00125 (eighth of a cent) per letter for the rest of us.
It's a limitation of cell phones and the capabilities of SMS. I have sent and received 1000+ character SMS messages on my Kaiser. I have sent the same. They display as one message, but are sent as six or seven. The phone just reassembles them.
Old/cheap phones usually end up receiving six seperate messages and receiving six seperate messages.
Does AT&T (or others) charge for just the one message or the actual six or seven that get sent over the airwaves?
They charge for each of the 6-7 messages. That's why the phone display how many it will use, so you can know what you're up to.
With the new lineup of full keyboard phone, texting 160 characters if pretty easy to do, especially when your friends don't like to talk on the phone and strictly text. Has anybody found a registry hack to allow more than 160 characters? For instance, the woman has sent numerous texts to me and she has AT&T as do i, and there has been messages she sends that are well over 500 characters on her Pantech and it allows it.
phones already do this
you can send larger txts but your carrier charges you one text per 160 characters.
or you could use email
I have unlimited text so it really doesn't matter to me how many text messages I have in a month. Anybody?
bratch15 said:
I have unlimited text so it really doesn't matter to me how many text messages I have in a month. Anybody?
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Just keep typing then - the messages get sent in 160 character blocks, and re-assembled into one big message by the recipient's phone.
Cheers,
Steve.
I guess what I'm asking is that when you go over 160 characters the phone splits the messages into two or however many messages. I've seen my woman type in messages that are well over 500 characters and when sent it shows up as one long message on her phone and on mine. Is there a way to increase the 160 character cut off so I can keep typing and send to other phones and they will see one long message? I'm sure shes getting charged for a couple message but the actually reading the message shows up as one long message.
Alright, thanks. Did not know that it does that so I end up erasing sentences and sending multiple messages. Sucks especially when you're fighting and trying to get a point across but now I know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Well if you send your message n the form of an MMS then you'll have 1000 letters you can use. And if there's no media n the message then' you might b able to send a longer message!!!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Hope that's helps your problem.. That's how I send a long message so it doesn't get broken up n2 separate message's.
I think its built into threading
I've seen my woman type in messages that are well over 500 characters and when sent it shows up as one long message on her phone and on mine.
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It happens when I text from my phone to anyone who has threading support for a windows mobile 6.1 phone
If you type above 160 characters in a regular SMS the person receiving it will get it as one message if they have a phone that supports it. If someone sends me a text with a Moto razr it will be split into 160 character messages instead of one long one
As Bajanman mms messages can hold more letters because it is data related unlike text messaging which rely on a back channel for cellular networks which costs the company 0 dollars to send as long as it is exactly 160 characters haha how ironic they charge us for something that was discovered to be free to the cell phone companies. Thank god for those unlimited texting plans that include the mms messages.
If the text message I send exceeds 160 characters, it throws "Your text message cannot be sent" and send only the first 160 characters. But I am able to receive text messages more than 160 characters.
I tried hard reset still the same. Please help !!!
An sms is by definition 160 characters or less
That rather abitrary number was decided on when that tech was new. They didn't see anyone needing more. That being said, I can still write a message that is longer, but it gets sent in multiples sms's. I'm with at&t and even when I had the stock rom, this was possible. The problem could be a restriction set in your ROM, or by your carrier.
Is this a new issue, or one that has always been there?
I started using this phone recently so I can't tell. But I understand that this is something to do with EMS changes in the registry.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa919404.aspx
jameybond said:
If the text message I send exceeds 160 characters, it throws "Your text message cannot be sent" and send only the first 160 characters. But I am able to receive text messages more than 160 characters.
I tried hard reset still the same. Please help !!!
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try this:
in Messaging select TOOLS-->OPTIONS-->Tap text Messages.
uncheck the Use unicode when neccesary
thank you. you help me too
crissg said:
That rather abitrary number was decided on when that tech was new. They didn't see anyone needing more.
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That number was not aritrary. It was the amount of unused space that was available in the control channel packets. Someone decided that space could be used to send short messages in the control channel packets and would result in no extra overhead in the amount of data being sent and received. They may or may not have "saw" needing more but it didn't really matter since that's all that's available in each packet.
However, "concatinated SMS" does allow for a larger packet by sending multiple SMS messages, each with a sequence number. The phone receives each SMS message and put them back in the order according to the sequence number. Phones that don't handle concatinated SMS simply display the individual messages as seperate ones.
i still have the same problem, does any one know how to solve that problem ???