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[Q] Bootlocker Unlocking Removes Stock Apps?

My One is due to arrive next month (hopefully), and I have a question regarding bootloader unlocking and rooting it.
I've just read the warning by Paul at Modaco regarding bootloader unlocking, which removes 4 system apps (Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer and Sound Recorder), and while searching the forum for some answers all I could find was the same thing occurring with other devices unlocked via the HTCDev method.
Has anyone here, who's rooted his One encountered this phenomenon?
If so - is there any way to fix it other than flashing a custom rom? I want it to remain stock, only rooted.
I've also read that flashing an RUU is not an option when the bootloader is unlocked and, well, we don't have one yet.
Your help will be highly appreciated, thanks in advance!

Once its release you will be able to push those apps via adb if they get ahold of them
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I think you can back those up first before rooting. /data partition is a read only partition which means you can copy/get anything from there but not paste/put anything. Just download a root explorer even without root permissions you can navigate to /data/app/ then copy all the apks.

Thanks a lot, I do hope that this is all that's altered during unlocking.

Can confirm. Have lost Calculator, Flashlight, Teeter, Sound Recorder and Ringtone Trimmer. So if anyone else is able to upload those here, I would be grateful

Bootloader unlocking, flashing, and data loss

I posted this in general but it occurs to me that was the wrong forum. I apologize for the double-post.
Hey everyone, I'm kinda a newb in the android scene (long-time iphone user), and I just got an unlocked HTC One 32gb. I'm thinking about unlocking the bootloader and installing one of the custom roms available here, and I had a few questions.
First, if I unlock the bootloader, will it delete all my data and apps? I've seen that it does delete some of the pre-installed HTC apps (that can be reinstalled using a flashable package I also saw here), but what about my apps, homescreen settings, text messages, pictures, etc? Will all of that get deleted?
If it does, is there a good way to back it up so it gets put back exactly the way I set it up (in particular, the home screens?)
Finally, when flashing one of the tweaked ROMs, will that process delete the data I described above?

Gabik123 said:
I posted this in general but it occurs to me that was the wrong forum. I apologize for the double-post.
Hey everyone, I'm kinda a newb in the android scene (long-time iphone user), and I just got an unlocked HTC One 32gb. I'm thinking about unlocking the bootloader and installing one of the custom roms available here, and I had a few questions.
First, if I unlock the bootloader, will it delete all my data and apps? I've seen that it does delete some of the pre-installed HTC apps (that can be reinstalled using a flashable package I also saw here), but what about my apps, homescreen settings, text messages, pictures, etc? Will all of that get deleted?
If it does, is there a good way to back it up so it gets put back exactly the way I set it up (in particular, the home screens?)
Finally, when flashing one of the tweaked ROMs, will that process delete the data I described above?
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Unlocking your bootloader will wipe all data from your phone including your Virtual SD Card, you can download Carbon from here to backup all your apps.
It won't save your home screens, SMS Backup and Restore (also from Play Store) can backup your SMS. Just copy any pictures etc off your device before you start.
Flashing a new custom ROM for the first time will require you to wipe everything, so do this straight after you've unlocked your bootloader and flashed custom recovery.
Then restore Apps / SMS etc..

[Q] A Few Questions

I got my HTC One yesterday and rooted it, but I have some queries. I modded my old Xperia Play a couple of years ago but I've forgotten most things about modding phones, my questions are:
1. I used Titanium Backup to remove some apps that I'll never use like Facebook, Chrome browser, and Google+, but if I restart the phone the apps will be back on it. For the moment I've just frozen those apps, so is it impossible to completely remove them?
2. Am I able to move apps to the sd card? I tried using Android Assistant but had no luck with it.
3. If there is a big update, how would I go about updating the phone (OTA?)? It is not possible doing it the normal way if the phone is rooted, correct?
4. Are there any roms that are far superior to the stock rom that you would recommend using?
Thank you in advance for your help.

projectmayhem22 said:
I got my HTC One yesterday and rooted it, but I have some queries. I modded my old Xperia Play a couple of years ago but I've forgotten most things about modding phones, my questions are:
1. I used Titanium Backup to remove some apps that I'll never use like Facebook, Chrome browser, and Google+, but if I restart the phone the apps will be back on it. For the moment I've just frozen those apps, so is it impossible to completely remove them?
2. Am I able to move apps to the sd card? I tried using Android Assistant but had no luck with it.
3. If there is a big update, how would I go about updating the phone (OTA?)? It is not possible doing it the normal way if the phone is rooted, correct?
4. Are there any roms that are far superior to the stock rom that you would recommend using?
Thank you in advance for your help.
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1. If you flash a custom rom then you can remove the apps permanently using rom cleaner. Some custom roms allow you to do this upon install.
2. Leaving the apps where they are should not be a problem.... there's plenty of space for them particularly if you remove the ones you don't need.
3. In order to obtain OTA updates you would need to flash the stock recovery and relock the bootloader... using a custom rom will not allow OTA from HTC but these are usually updated far more frequently by the devs anyway. Some custom roms have their own OTA update system.
4. There are many custom roms available in the dev section.... some are close to stock with enhancements whilst others can be heavily themed. Usually the devs work with the latest available from HTC then improve it. Stable custom roms based on android 4.2.2 were available long before HTC started to roll it out. I am Using Android Revolution HD 12.1 which is stock like. The benefit of this is, as with all custom roms, you have the ability to install the vast range of mods available to enhance the device.

projectmayhem22 said:
I got my HTC One yesterday and rooted it, but I have some queries. I modded my old Xperia Play a couple of years ago but I've forgotten most things about modding phones, my questions are:
1. I used Titanium Backup to remove some apps that I'll never use like Facebook, Chrome browser, and Google+, but if I restart the phone the apps will be back on it. For the moment I've just frozen those apps, so is it impossible to completely remove them?
2. Am I able to move apps to the sd card? I tried using Android Assistant but had no luck with it.
3. If there is a big update, how would I go about updating the phone (OTA?)? It is not possible doing it the normal way if the phone is rooted, correct?
4. Are there any roms that are far superior to the stock rom that you would recommend using?
Thank you in advance for your help.
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1) Just delete the apk's for the apps you don't use, straight from the ROM you decide to flash (just be careful not to remove anything other apps depend on)
2) Not sure, the One doesn't has an SD Card in the traditional sense so in essence, it's all internal memory.
3) You'd have to install a stock ROM like the one in mike1986's thread .. install stock recovery .. re-lock your bootloader. This would allow you to receive OTA updates but obviously you would need to root again but that's easily done by re pushing custom recovery.
4) ARHD 12.1 ... Without a doubt mate, it's just a pure improvement on stock which is always going to be the best, most stable ROM ... Also try ARHD GE, the Google Edition one, also by mike1986.

[Q] Bloatware Apps keep reappearing after crash

Hey guys,
I have been trying to uninstall all the bloatware from my HTC Butterfly S after unlocking the bootloader and rooting it. However, sometimes randomly while uninstalling the bloatware (like the Korean keyboard) with titanium backup, the device will crash and restart itself, and previously uninstalled apps would appear back again.
For example, i uninstalled 7digital, Google Korean Keyboard, HTC Sense Wechat (in that order) then the device would crash while uninstalling HTC Sense Wechat. After it booted up again, i found that my default keyboard would change back to HTC's own keyboard and that 7digital, Google Korean Keyboard and Wechat would all be found installed again.
Anyone else experiencing the same problems?
Edit : okay so restarting the phone without it crashing does the same things too..all the bloat apps came back :/
Edit2 : oh ya im using stock rom by the way.

I also tried to uninstall HTC Sense Webchat and had the same issues. I think this program is somehow connected either with Blinkfeed or integrated in the system, so you can't delete it from rom.

I unninstaled all the bloatware from my HTC One X once I rooted it. But then, I could not install OTA updates anymore. I had to get an old backup from my Nandroid, restore all the bloat just to be able to install the update. Was really annoying.
Now, I moved to one Butterfly S. This time, I plan to root and freeze all the bloat with Titanium Backup. Once and update is released, I can just go there and undo the freeze.
Did you tried freezing the apps you don´t want? Maybe it can prevent the crashing.

fanghan said:
I have been trying to uninstall all the bloatware from my HTC Butterfly S after unlocking the bootloader and rooting it. However, sometimes randomly while uninstalling the bloatware (like the Korean keyboard) with titanium backup, the device will crash and restart itself, and previously uninstalled apps would appear back again.
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Edit : okay so restarting the phone without it crashing does the same things too..all the bloat apps came back :/
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The system partition seems to be write-protected somehow. Any changes you make from within a running system are lost on reboot, even though you remount /system as read-write. In order to circumvent this, you can write down a list of APKs you want to remove, reboot into recovery and do it from there – in that case the changes are permanent.
Warell said:
I unninstaled all the bloatware from my HTC One X once I rooted it. But then, I could not install OTA updates anymore. I had to get an old backup from my Nandroid, restore all the bloat just to be able to install the update. Was really annoying.
Now, I moved to one Butterfly S. This time, I plan to root and freeze all the bloat with Titanium Backup. Once and update is released, I can just go there and undo the freeze.
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I have certain doubts as to whether an OTA will work on any rooted Butterfly S if one gets released eventually. Butterfly S suffers from the same problem as One, i.e. certain apps come preinstalled in /data (see this thread for a list of those that were in /data/preload on mine) and the OTA update script checks their integrity as well, but they are wiped in the process of unlocking the bootloader.
Now, obviously, I made a backup of those apps, but that may not be enough, it's perfectly possible there were other things in /data as well and there's not really a way to find out unless HTC releases a RUU, in which case we can look into its contents.

koniiiik said:
The system partition seems to be write-protected somehow. Any changes you make from within a running system are lost on reboot, even though you remount /system as read-write. In order to circumvent this, you can write down a list of APKs you want to remove, reboot into recovery and do it from there – in that case the changes are permanent.
I have certain doubts as to whether an OTA will work on any rooted Butterfly S if one gets released eventually. Butterfly S suffers from the same problem as One, i.e. certain apps come preinstalled in /data (see this thread for a list of those that were in /data/preload on mine) and the OTA update script checks their integrity as well, but they are wiped in the process of unlocking the bootloader.
Now, obviously, I made a backup of those apps, but that may not be enough, it's perfectly possible there were other things in /data as well and there's not really a way to find out unless HTC releases a RUU, in which case we can look into its contents.
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So basically your saying that we should not unlock the bootloader and I don't think it make sense to unlock it because there is no s off
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daorderdillon said:
So basically your saying that we should not unlock the bootloader and I don't think it make sense to unlock it because there is no s off
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No, that's most certainly not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that if you unlock your bootloader, any OTA upgrades might not work because some files from the original ROM are lost in the process. This is just unfounded speculation based on the fact that this was true for the One and the Butterfly S shows the same symptoms. Nevertheless, we have yet to see whether this is true or not since HTC haven't released any OTAs for the Butterfly S yet.
If you don't need root or custom recovery, feel free not to unlock your bootloader and stick to the vanilla stock ROM. Some of us need root, which means we did unlock our bootloader and are willing to bear the consequences.
I don't see any reason why not having a S-OFF exploit would mean that it's not worth unlocking. Just unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev is perfectly sufficient to install a custom recovery or ROM, from what I gather around the interwebs, custom kernels should be all right as well. If you want to argue that you need a custom splash screen then I'm willing to argue that you don't.
Anyway, this entire discussion is way off-topic already so I'll stop here.

This is an interesting discussion, although i'm away from my turf, as i got an HTC One - on second thought, it isn't so different from the Butterfly S. I was looking for a way to get rid of the bloatware and keep stock Sense UI. The problem, as has been discussed in the replies above - there is a "bug" when unlocking the bootloader from htcdev that causes some data to be wiped out. From what i've read all several similar cases, you will not be able to update via OTA. Basically, if you want to go back to stock with OTA support, you'll need to download a stock rom matching your device's region and restore that onto your device. I personally don't think it's worth it, as HTC will be releasing 4.3 soon (by the end of this month, according to leaks).
However, i was hoping to find an app (much like what already exists for the Galaxy S4) that would easily disable or block bloatware apps, without uninstalling them (that wouldn't be possible without rooting anyway). I'm really hoping that such an app exists for the One or Butterfly S, as i've been able to manually disable apps running in memory through Settings > Apps > All and i've noticed significant improvements, especially in the AnTuTu benchmarks. An automated way of doing that would have been really awesome.

[Q] rooting sprint m8

I wasn't going to root my phone but this "its on" app is killing half my battery now, so I guess its time. Can someone point in in the right direction for a tutorial that can root after the 4.4.4 update? also, does anyone know if there's a way to root without erasing the phone? I don't want to reinstall everything, I really just want to get rid of the its on app. Its unbelievable that sprint hasn't fixed this in over a month.

The method to root is the same as it is with previous Android versions on this device. Unlocking your bootloader factory resets the device, but you can connect your phone to your PC and backup whatever you need to beforehand. HTC backup also works great for backing up apps, ringtones, etc. I've used it in the past and it works quite well. As far as the ItsOn garbage, you'll need to flash a ROM that removes it from the device, as it's not simply an app that you can delete.