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Is it just me or can this phone not do it?
On my iphone if I leave wifi on and turn the screen off, it will connect only when needed using the auto send/receive schedule.
My xperia no matter what i do just wont seem to send receive with auto send/receive set to 5 minutes, wifi enabled, and i turn screen off with power button (or even leave it automatic).
Does it work for anyone else or is this just the way the xperia works? It only sends/receives when it's awake, in which case, pretty stupid,cause i can just do it manually if i'm using it.
I think winmo only sends/receives over a cellular connection while the phone is asleep. Wifi on the other hand is disabled when the phone goes asleep in order to preserve battery life....so no sending or recieving emails over wifi with the device in sleep mode
sonus said:
I think winmo only sends/receives over a cellular connection while the phone is asleep. Wifi on the other hand is disabled when the phone goes asleep in order to preserve battery life....so no sending or recieving emails over wifi with the device in sleep mode
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That's really disappointing, it's a feature I had come to expect, thinking the device could atleast witch it on long enough to sync my email just like the iphone does before switching it off again.
guess my only option is to buy a data plan.
Try Advance config
Bottom right softkey "Menu" --> More Settings --> Connections --> Enable Wi-fi on standby mode
Ashwm said:
Try Advance config
Bottom right softkey "Menu" --> More Settings --> Connections --> Enable Wi-fi on standby mode
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Thanks, I have just tried this, but I see that basically what it does is prevent the wifi from sleeping on standby mode, which is going to kill the wifi I presume in a couple of hours.
I guess it's just not possible for it to do what exactly I wanted it to do which is to connect and disconnect when required, to send and receive, while left switched on and the phone is in standby.
I believe that even when the phone is on and wifi is on I think the normal wifi power save (middle slider position) switches itself off after an idle period to save power when not in use, "on" just means available for use, not necessarily powered up.
I need this too, could someone try a mort-script or something to connect to WiFi automatically and then send/receive emails every desired set hours? Think it is possible..
Well
I tried enabling this (and yes, the wifi stays on while asleep) and putting my power save slider all the way to the right, however, after waiting the set time for my auto send/receive (5 minutes) and infact more, it did not send/receive until the moment I woke it, so I don't know if it was just about to do it, or if waking it caused the update.
i will give it another go and see how it goes, if you say that the wifi does infact just sleep itself when idle it shouldn't harm the battery life too much.
Strange
Ok, after further experimentation, I got it to send/receive my email while sleeping with the mode set for standby wifi enabled, however, with the refresh time setto 5 minutes, it took almost 15 minutes to update.
15 minutes is about the time I want, but will it take more power if I leave it on 5 minutes, or will it take even longer still if i set it to 15 minutes?
I'll try leaving my wifi on for a couple of days and see how it goes.
Try the program rk-OSR. It can connect/disconnect wi-fi automatically only for synchronizing e-mail.
Thanks
maedox said:
Try the program rk-OSR. It can connect/disconnect wi-fi automatically only for synchronizing e-mail.
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Thanks, I'm going to see how it fairs over the next couple of days with the wifi set to work during standby (in terms of battery life) and if that doesn't work out i'll take a look at the app.
I don't know what it is but i just have a phobia of running extra 3rd party software on a phone that can only just about handle itself.
You pretty much have to run 3rd party apps on WinMo. In my opinion it's like using a normal computer with windows without installing any other applications. It's barely usable for anything at all without getting really annoyed.
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You pretty much have to run 3rd party apps on WinMo. In my opinion it's like using a normal computer with windows without installing any other applications. It's barely usable for anything at all without getting really annoyed.
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Yeh, but what annoys me is that my desktop computer is designed with the hardware to run its OS and a hell of a lot more, the hardware in this thing barely runs the naked OS, so I'm reluctant to add any more.
Anyway, after experiments it's been pretty much a total failure with the sleep wifi thing.
Looks like that 3rd party app will be my last resort, lets just hope it's unobtrusive and has litttle battery drain (aside from the obvious).
Failing that, it's either keep lugging around an iphone or get a data plan. Might sell the iphone to fund it.
You can't seriously consider using the iPhone for this. It's a toy.
I'm sure you'll be happy with rk-OSR.
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You can't seriously consider using the iPhone for this. It's a toy.
I'm sure you'll be happy with rk-OSR.
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You;re right, iPhone is a toy, but considering the problems I'm now having downloading email attachments (mp3) and the fact that it doesnt check my mail properly while sleeping, it seems almost worth carrying just to make sure I get my email without having to actively check for it.
I'll take your word though and try rk-OSR and hopefully find a solution to my attachment problem, then I'm a happy happy xperia owner in heaven.
Ok...but.
Ok, got rk-OSR installed and it is working perfectly if I use the "test" button. However, I put the device to sleep, set to sync in a couple of minutes, wait 5 or 6, wake it up myself and nothing. Even the log doesnt have anything after my test attempt. What could be the problem?
still wondering how to get the phone to do this... is it not possible for the phone to check emails while it's in your pocket? such a simple concept yet...
alias_neo and dinan, I found a solution!!! All you have to do is to install GProfile and this program called rk-OSR. You create a time-based profile (in GProfile) and choose a specific time (eg: 1am) to run rk-OSR. You don´t have to select anything else (wifi toggle, etc). Then you select the same time in rk-OSR (1 am) and in this program you select the wifi options. It worked for me.
Hope it helps you
Any way to keep wifi on when NC screen times out from inactivity?
I have tried Keep wifi alive with no success. There is no option in the NC settings like there is on my HTC Inc.
Any help would be appreciated.
JDP
jdposhkus said:
Any way to keep wifi on when NC screen times out from inactivity?
I have tried Keep wifi alive with no success. There is no option in the NC settings like there is on my HTC Inc.
Any help would be appreciated.
JDP
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Spare Parts app has a setting to set wifi sleep policy to never. I've heard mixed reactions as to whether it works, but I'm pretty sure it's working fine for me.
wvcachi said:
Spare Parts app has a setting to set wifi sleep policy to never. I've heard mixed reactions as to whether it works, but I'm pretty sure it's working fine for me.
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Verified that it's working for me as well.
Thanks.
Ill give it a shot.
SpareParts is definitely not working for me. I think it modifies the settings.db/system table. Went to look at the table, nothing there related to wifi sleep policy. Should be wifi_sleep_policy with a field of 2, and that didn't work either. Any ideas?
Not working for me either.
Yeah, spare parts isn't keeping my wifi alive either. Every time i turn my NC on after sleeping for a few minutes I have to turn wifi off and back on again.
I got mine working. Spare Parts UI did not work. In fact i ran into issues restarting WiFi when I used the UI to set Sleep to never.
I had to manually create an entry in the secure table for wifi_sleep_policy and i use a widget to turn off wifi when i dont need it.
insert into secure values(152, 'wifi_sleep_policy', 2);
I used WiFi OnOff widget (free from market) to turn wiFi off when not needed.
^ Is there a guide somewhere?
duh.. this worked yesterday and now i am back to where i was before. This seems really flaky. I lose wifi even after having the setting. setting in DB or in spare parts does not fix it. its very random but fails more often than it works.
Possibly a faulty device? I cannot imagine that the Nook has such a basic problem. The only time it consistently reconnects is when i power on/off.
Any thoughts?
Is there a reason you wouldn't hit the power button to turn the screen off instead of waiting for it to time out? I do this when listening to tune-in radio, for example, and wifi remains on just fine. It also saves battery
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mikerocks said:
Yeah, spare parts isn't keeping my wifi alive either. Every time i turn my NC on after sleeping for a few minutes I have to turn wifi off and back on again.
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I've never had to turn wifi off and back on to make it work again, you sure you aren't having problems with your wireless access point?
I found a quick solution that mostly works. If you download WakeTimer from the market, and create a wakelock (cpu on, screen off) that will keep Android from going into sleep mode and keep your wifi running. I tested it out by continuously pinging my Nook. I said "mostly" works because when you hit a button to turn the screen back on (either power button or nook button) I'd get a single ping timeout before it would resume.
*Edit*
Even though a single ping times out, there doesn't seem to be an interruption in streaming data. Don't know if I have to say it, but I will just in case...keeping your Nook from going into sleep mode will be a drain on the battery.
give it a try.
I have tried all current fix's i have found on this site and none of them work is there some thing i am missing thanks .
The spare parts setting works well for me, not 100% of the time, but enough that it doesnt bother me.
I'm looking too....
Spare parts fix did't help me either
Grab Settings Profile Lite from the market. Set WiFi off when Screen off in the rules. Now Wifi will turn on and off with the screen. Fixed all my WiFi issues.
I also have Spare Parts set to Never.
ThrowingKs said:
Grab Settings Profile Lite from the market. Set WiFi off when Screen off in the rules. Now Wifi will turn on and off with the screen. Fixed all my WiFi issues.
I also have Spare Parts set to Never.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that is exactly what the OP doesn't want.
I think he wants the wifi to stay on when he powers the screen back on, instead of having it disconnect when the screen turns back on.
The Nook I believe loses the connection when you turn on the screen.
ThrowingKs said:
Grab Settings Profile Lite from the market. Set WiFi off when Screen off in the rules. Now Wifi will turn on and off with the screen. Fixed all my WiFi issues.
I also have Spare Parts set to Never.
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Thats how the NC works by default.
Spare parts did not work for me at all. I set it to always on and it still shuts off.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that is exactly what the OP doesn't want.
I think he wants the wifi to stay on when he powers the screen back on, instead of having it disconnect when the screen turns back on.
The Nook I believe loses the connection when you turn on the screen.
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That is what this does. When the screen is on, the WiFi is on. When the screen is off, the WiFi is off. It got rid of all my intermittent issues.
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That is what this does. When the screen is on, the WiFi is on. When the screen is off, the WiFi is off. It got rid of all my intermittent issues.
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How long have you been running this fix? I ran it for 10 days or so and started having issues, basically it quit working.(would turn off but not back on). Are you using it with spare parts? I am still looking for a permanent solution.
^ I have had it for probably a week and a half. I do also use Spare Parts with WiFi Sleep set to Never.
I also have my Nook set to DHCP, and my DD-WRT router set to give a "Static DHCP" to my Nook.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Static_DHCP
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^ I have had it for probably a week and a half. I do also use Spare Parts with WiFi Sleep set to Never.
I also have my Nook set to DHCP, and my DD-WRT router set to give a "Static DHCP" to my Nook.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Static_DHCP
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Thanks, will look at this when I have time.
Wifi Lock works for me...
Ok.. I read all the posts I could find and installed Wifi Lock, this is the only one I tested and works great for me. (Tested using Pandora radio)
This is what I did:
1- Install Wifi Lock (Android Market)
2- Reboot Nook Color
3- Go to your Extras and run the app. (It doesn't have a user interface, it only displays a message every time you click on it: Default / Never)
4- If you are using Advanced Task Killer (or any other) make sure you deselect Wifi Lock and add it to your Ignore List (I did it right away, I guess that's a VERY important step)
I just tested it several times for about an hour using Pandora radio, I have no idea how much it will drain the battery... If something goes wrong I'll let you know...
anybody know is there a way to have my 3g/H /edge connection disabled when the screen is off like in the wifi sleep policy??
seems a bit of a waste having wifi set to sleep when screen is off if the 3g /edge connection becomes active.
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One of the main use of a smartphone is to receive emails and such while the screen is off. So the answer is no, but I guess you can find a 3rd party utility on the market that does it if you really want to.
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
zorxd said:
One of the main use of a smartphone is to receive emails and such while the screen is off. So the answer is no, but I guess you can find a 3rd party utility on the market that does it if you really want to.
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
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thx man. . i always thought 3g /h took more power!!
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I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
Grizza666 said:
I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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hmmm . . might try that
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Grizza666 said:
I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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looks like a good app. maybe just what Im looking for. thank you.
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If your life /phone usage would be better not receiving emails etc twenty four hours a day then control your phone to your needs the definition of smart is definitely not email day and night .
A Smartuser who does not depend upon receiving emails twits and facebook then use an App like Quick Settings to turn mobile data off when not needed .
You use the phone dont let it use you .
jje
JJEgan said:
If your life /phone usage would be better not receiving emails etc twenty four hours a day then control your phone to your needs the definition of smart is definitely not email day and night .
A Smartuser who does not depend upon receiving emails twits and facebook then use an App like Quick Settings to turn mobile data off when not needed .
You use the phone dont let it use you .
jje
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ya my thoughts exactly. id like data mode to be on only when the phone is active not 24/7.
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I use Tasker to turn of my data connection on screen off, then turn it on every 15 min for 1 min to allow checking for mails and stuff
Grizza666 said:
I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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this app is a great idea but did you find it slowed your phone down?? the minute i took it off again the phone sped up. ive got docs js3 and hardcores latest kernel with tweaks and lagfix on.
gonna try tasker now.
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zorxd said:
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
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I'm almost certain it's the other way round!
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I use Tasker to turn of my data connection on screen off, then turn it on every 15 min for 1 min to allow checking for mails and stuff
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bloody hell. . i cant get this to work at all. sooo complicated. i aamt get past the priority part . going around circles now.
must i create one event for when screen off and then another event for when screen is on??
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ok managed to get profile set up for data to switch off when display is off and vice versa.
only thing is in the notifications bar it says 'no active profiles'??
how do i know he its working?
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you could add additional "Notify" events for testing, they'll have a timestamp indicating when the even fired.
My Tasks:
Event Display Off
Wait: 10 Seconds (in case it went off for inactivity but I'm still doing stuff)
Mobile Data: Off IF %SCREEN ~ off
Event Display On
Mobile Data: On
Clock From 0:00 every 15 min Till 23:59
Mobile Data: On
Clock From 0:01 every 15 min Till 00:00
Mobile Data: Off IF %SCREEN ~ off
cool. just set this up now. this app is unreal !!!!
thanks for that
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Ever since upgrading to ATT ICS, my WiFi and Mobile Data connections both are turned on during the night. During the day, I don't run either. When I am at home, I use WiFi and then turn WiFi off and plug in the charger before I sleep. When I wake up in the morning, WiFi and Mobile Data are turned ON. This happens constantly for me.
The second thing I tried was not putting the phone on the charger for the night. Come the next morning, WiFi is ON but Mobile Data remained off.
Something is triggering WiFi and Mobile Data to automatically turn on. I can't seem to find the setting that is allowing this to happen.
With GB, I never had this issue. If I recall correctly, GB had a setting for the sleep period of the phone. I don't remember much else of what was adjustable in that menu and I can't remember if I set anything in there for GB and data. I cannot find anything remotely like that in ICS. ICS is bloody annoying me right now with these quirks.
I wish I could downgrade back to GB right now so I don't have to deal with data turning on during the course of the night.......
If you want to go back to gb look under the development tab for return to GB from ics. It's down a ways. Not sure what to tell you about the other issues but to try and reflash ics.
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Try Airplane Mode
Sounds like you have some app trying to make a connection to run an update. It's turning on WiFi and/or the Mobile Data connections. I'll check mine tonight to see what happens.
Try turning on the Airplane mode when you go to bed. Hold down the power button and select the Airplane Mode option. If that doesn't keep the radios off, something is really wrong.
I sometimes use the Airplane mode at night to conserve the battery, but since you're charging, that's not an issue.
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If you want to go back to gb look under the development tab for return to GB from ics. It's down a ways. Not sure what to tell you about the other issues but to try and reflash ics.
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I found the thread. Thanks. I just need to read about unlocking the bootloader now before proceeding. The only downside of downgrading is I will lose the ICS radio which is giving me such good signal strength. Before in my room at home, I would get 1 bar, now I get 2 or 3. LULz.
brucegil said:
Sounds like you have some app trying to make a connection to run an update. It's turning on WiFi and/or the Mobile Data connections. I'll check mine tonight to see what happens.
Try turning on the Airplane mode when you go to bed. Hold down the power button and select the Airplane Mode option. If that doesn't keep the radios off, something is really wrong.
I sometimes use the Airplane mode at night to conserve the battery, but since you're charging, that's not an issue.
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This happened since day 1 of upgrading to ICS. The only software that I installed were some games and utilities that I had on GB. I never had an issue with either data connection turning on.
I might try another flash of ICS but that would mean running it for a night without the downloaded software for a couple nights and then installing each one by one, night by night.
I can use airplane mode but not for long term. I need to be able to receive calls from work when issues arise during the 2nd and 3rd shifts.
This only happens at night. It never happens during the day which makes me believe something is happening during the phone sleep time. And there's no setting that I can find for the phone sleep time like GB. Grr.....
Why not just leave data on if u don't mind me asking. Can't be using that much data really
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Yep I have the same issue.
I have observed the data icon appear on the stroke of midnight. It takes three attempts to keep it off till the next time I use it, or when the damn thing turns back on at 23:59:59.
Spoke to HTC support, they advised to return it to retailer for them to examine it....WTF...lol
Regards
Paul
FPV-GT said:
Yep I have the same issue.
I have observed the data icon appear on the stroke of midnight. It takes three attempts to keep it off till the next time I use it, or when the damn thing turns back on at 23:59:59.
Spoke to HTC support, they advised to return it to retailer for them to examine it....WTF...lol
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Paul
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We have two threads on this issue of WiFi and/or Data turning on at midnight. When I first found the missing voice dialer problem, I e-mailed HTC support. They responded to my e-mail and then a member of their escalation team called me. They recognize that this is an ICS upgrade issue. Of course, they don't know when it will be fixed.
If you have not already done so, log into HTC.com, go to Support and send an e-mail describing the problem. They need as much feedback as we can give them to get HTC and/or Google to fix these problems.
I am not surprised that the ICS upgrade broke some things, but the number of things surprises me.
Check your setting. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
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Check your setting. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
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Doesn't help.
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Too bad. I noticed mine came on the first night after I installed ICS. Took awhile to find the settings I posted. When I found the settings and clicked on the one in the picture I never noticed Wi-Fi come on on its own since.
So I finally got around to trying Airplane mode. WiFi still kicks on overnight while plugged in.
vivid x2 - I had that checked to "Never" and I still have WiFi and Mobile Data coming on at night.
brucegil & FPV-GT - I will submit a support email ticket. I'm surprised there aren't more of us on here that are having this issue.
syrkel - I don't want either WiFi or Mobile Data on. If I'm not using it, why have it activated? All I need during the night is 2G voice so I can respond to work issues that may arise.
Just throwing another thing to look into. Try to reset the data counter and check it every few hours to see what apps are using the wi-fi data? Some of the apps even allow you to access the app settings from there as well. Check some of the app permissions and try disabling a few apps at a time that allow changes to wi-fi settings.
what a coincidence. i was just jacking around on my phone in class and found the advanced wifi option and there is a setting to keep wifi on during sleep. it has three options: always, only when plugged in, and never. hope this helps
Try installing a juice defender. It turns off data when your screen is off automatically. Also, (maybe only in the paid versions) you can set a night schedule for it to disable connectivity for a set time automatically. I have mine disable all data connections and go to silent mode from 12:30 to 8:30.
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what a coincidence. i was just jacking around on my phone in class and found the advanced wifi option and there is a setting to keep wifi on during sleep. it has three options: always, only when plugged in, and never. hope this helps
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I tested this last night. Before I went to bed, I turned off WiFi (Data remained on). On the WiFi advanced settings I had the Keep Wi-Fi on During Sleep setting to "Always," which is the opposite of what people here have mentioned. I plugged in the charger. However, I have my Vivid set to remain on while on the charger. So it technically never went to sleep. (Makes a nice night light.) At 2:30 a.m. when I woke up, the WiFi was not on.
Tonight I will keep the same settings, but I will not put it on the charger (I'm testing the 3400 mAh Mugen extended battery). I will see if the WiFi comes on during the night.
liquidxnitez said:
Ever since upgrading to ATT ICS, my WiFi and Mobile Data connections both are turned on during the night. During the day, I don't run either. When I am at home, I use WiFi and then turn WiFi off and plug in the charger before I sleep. When I wake up in the morning, WiFi and Mobile Data are turned ON. This happens constantly for me.
The second thing I tried was not putting the phone on the charger for the night. Come the next morning, WiFi is ON but Mobile Data remained off.
Something is triggering WiFi and Mobile Data to automatically turn on. I can't seem to find the setting that is allowing this to happen.
With GB, I never had this issue. If I recall correctly, GB had a setting for the sleep period of the phone. I don't remember much else of what was adjustable in that menu and I can't remember if I set anything in there for GB and data. I cannot find anything remotely like that in ICS. ICS is bloody annoying me right now with these quirks.
I wish I could downgrade back to GB right now so I don't have to deal with data turning on during the course of the night.......
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I wonder if this is part of Googles data collection. I have gone through 3 vivid phones in the last 2 weeks (long story). I have seen this problem happen with no apps other than what came with the phone. My wifes phone (another vivid) does the same thing. If the phone is turned off for the night, turning the phone back on has the same results (mobile data is on). This seems to be a random problem.
When you allow Google's locaton service part of the message says that you are allowing Google to collect data even when no apps are running.
Just a thought.
I've been trying to figure out what's causing it...see my last couple posts here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589724
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