I got a general enquiry, if I am currently on a trickdroid custom rom and wanted to flash ARHD, do I make a nandroid back up then full wipe before flashing ARHD? But when I restore the nandroid, does it revert me back to trickdroid since the nandroid backup was built using the data of trickdroid?
My goal is to change Roms but also able to retain apps and settings that I have set in my last Rom.
I just downloaded titanium backup too.
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Nandroid is a complete backup of /system /data and boot.img. You want titanium backup to retain data from rom to rom.
I have read a few threads but wasn't sure, thank you for confirming this. Much appreciated.
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just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.
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just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.
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Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.
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Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?
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This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?
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I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.
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And then using HTC and dropbox to restore your apps? But using TiBU to restore the apps settings over?
The user data have to be input manually, correct?
I use HTC sync then tibu to restorethe data and any apps it may have missed.
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I am about to wipe install Darky's new rom and would like a way to restore apps without having to reinstall each one individually.
What are the general feeling on resorting apps via titanium?
If I use titanium will the apps still receive automatic market updates?
Also can anyone recommend a good way of backing up contacts?
All advice is welcome!
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contacts i use googlemail...
for cleaner results just restore user no system apps.
if you go for darky 10 i wouldn't restore apps at all or just selected fresh install where ever you can...
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Had my SGS for three months on 3 in the UK.
In the first week I flashed the 2.2.1 update.
Brilliant phone, but then 2 days ago it suddenly went very wired, 1-3 buzzing, buzz pause buzz buzz buzz everything crashing and rebooting didn't help.
So I did a factory reset (reboot vol up + home + power) which of course wiped everything.... not even market worked.
I had a user folder with various essential files, including the titanium apk
Titanium restore all apps and data, sit back and wait around 20/30 minutes.
Phone restored EXACTLY as it was before, including placement of icons and everything down to the last detail.
A "Backup" generally in computing terms is like a parachute, you have no use at all for it until you need it, and then you'd better have one, and it better work.
Titanium backup worked, 100%, cannot fault it in any way whatsoever, if you only buy one apk, buy this.
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Sms backup plus which backed up all my calls and SMS and storing all my contacts to google/gmail and not sim card, and googe calendar probably helped a lot.
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I have titanium set to 7 backups, one a day per week, rolling.
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The only thing I am missing is a backup solution that backs up over the USB to a PC and which backs up absolutely everything on the phone, system and all.
As far as I know there is no ready made solution to this need?
Thanks Johnny, much appreciated mate!
So basically, when I upgrade to a new firmware, I can use titanium backup so I won't have to manually reinstall all my apps after a repartition/factory reset? What about settings such as wlan keys, or pictures associated with contacts?
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So basically, when I upgrade to a new firmware, I can use titanium backup so I won't have to manually reinstall all my apps after a repartition/factory reset? What about settings such as wlan keys, or pictures associated with contacts?
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i would highly recomment not to restore system settings when upgrading to a new fw.
also titanium can't help if you f*ed up your system you should make a nandroid backup for that..
nandroid =safety
titanium=makes life easier but sometimes makes problems
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Ok, so there's no way to keep the contacts-pictures when upgrading to a new firmware without risking system stability? That sucks
I hate it when all apps are removed to change ROM. I want to try Nik's JB and I dont want apps to be removed whatsapp....
try Ultimate Backup Tool for non-rooted and Titanium Backup for rooted
In this case it should be enough to do a nandroid backup. You can test JB and if you finished testing, you just restore your old stuff. The JB ROM is amazing but it's not a daily driver yet so it's kinda needless to install all your apps on it
I backed some using titanium but how how to restore them?
What about the backup and and restore on the recovery? What is that used for?
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I backed some using titanium but how how to restore them?
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After backing up with titanium on your old rom
Download titanium on your new rom and you can re-install, but beware that restoring data from different roms may cause FC's
Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
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Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
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Yes, you can
aaa124 said:
I hate it when all apps are removed to change ROM. I want to try Nik's JB and I dont want apps to be removed whatsapp....
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Buy the premium version of titanium backup then you can batch install apps instead of installing one at a time.
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esbenm said:
Can you set Titanium to only restore the apks, no data and cache? That should avoid most issues I suppose?
The interface is a little ... busy... so I havent really given it a go yet.
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Yep. What I usually do, is go on the batch section click restore app, and choose app only. And then use app+data for my games, so I don't lose my scores and saves.
You could always restore the data partition from your old ROMs nandroid backup. Works for me.
For rooted phone, I'd suggest Go Backup.
Titanium Backup is much more powerful, but some essential features, like batch backup/restore, require paid version. And it loads pretty slowly on my Incredible S.
Go Backup offers backing up both apps and their data, as well as SMS/call log/contacts/wi-fi access points. Go dev team has recently added backup merging feature, which works fine either.
Today I installed 4.1.1-based ROM from Nikhil, downloaded Go Backup from the Market, ran backup restoration and voila, in 5 minutes I got all my apps back, including paid ones.
This app is constantly being updated, which is also a weighty argument (at least for me).
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You could always restore the data partition from your old ROMs nandroid backup. Works for me.
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That seems like a great idea, anything not to do, or just copy and place..
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That seems like a great idea, anything not to do, or just copy and place..
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I'm using 4ext, I just choose advanced restore and choose data partition.
So if I restore my ROM from a previous backup, it will restore all my apps with data too?
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So if I restore my ROM from a previous backup, it will restore all my apps with data too?
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If it's nandroid, sure
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I'm using 4ext, I just choose advanced restore and choose data partition.
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Thanks for the info, when Nicks new roms settle in a bit and I try them again I'm going to try your method.
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Is it really the same restoring an app from a backup as from Google play? Market links work and the app is registered by the os, integrated into the share menu (facebook for instance) and so on?
Just trying to learn how android works... Something like that would never work in windows, registry entries would probably break...
Nonverbose can you please explain more about the nandroid backup. I tried titanium and it worked.
I am curious about your method.
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aaa124 said:
Nonverbose can you please explain more about the nandroid backup. I tried titanium and it worked.
I am curious about your method.
Best
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nandroid is the backup/restore function in you recovery A nandroid backup will save your COMPLETE ROM with all apps, data and everything else. After a backup you can install whatever you want on your phone and install new things, whatever. And if you had enough, you can restore your backup and your entire phone will be just like when you did the backup It's also a great method to switch between ROMs for example your daily driver (let's say ProjectX) and JB Evolution You can configure both ROMs like you want it, do backups and switch between them The process of backing up/restoring a ROM takes about 5min.
I hope this answered all your questions
Yup I tried this one today but I didnt know it was called nandroid. Thanks
I've rooted my phone and I want to get the new MaximusHD ROM (4.3, HTC Sense, Rooted)
How can I replace my ROM while preserving my data (WhatsApp messages, pictures, etc)?
I am sorry but I am coming from the world of Apple and iTunes did everything for me. Android is a totally new beast!
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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sauprankul said:
What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
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Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
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Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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sauprankul said:
Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Yeah, TWRP lets you back up all your info. You can pick and choose and it lets you back up the current rom, so if you have issues you can go back to it. Copy that folder to a computer, because what you want to do is a dirty flash and might run into problems. It's best to flash by wiping clean and then replacing or you run into problems with the rom with some of the data.
Just my opinion.
My advice would be to read a lot more about how nandroid backups work and about how backup apps like Titanium Backup work as well before trying anything.
That being said the above advice about doing a nandroid from recovery is a must, especially if you're new to the android world and aren't sure what you're doing. The nandroid is your fail-safe in case anything goes wrong. It will allow you to restore your phone back to exactly how it was when you did the backup.
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
1. Have a rooted device
2. Download Titanium Backup (I bought the pro version, I think you need it to do batch backup/restore)
3. Batch backup all user apps (I also backup my call log and sms/mms messages)
4. Reboot device to recovery and perform a nandroid backup
5. Flash new rom
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
7. Reboot into new rom
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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The reason I say not to restore data for every app is that not every app needs it's data restored to get everything back (i.e. Google Hangouts, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and I've always been warned that restoring data can cause issues. So my reasoning is the less I restore the better.
And I know using the free version of Titanium Backup is a PITA, that is why I said I use the paid version.
I never said to wipe media (I assume you mean the virtual sdcard) I said to wipe data/factory reset (the name of the option in CWM)
And there is nothing wrong with wiping after a flash. The wipe gets rid of user apps/data, anything installed with the rom is fine. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. However, I have never had an issue wiping after a flash.
If the OP doesn't want to follow my advice that's fine, I was simply describing what I've been doing on various devices for the last couple of years.
I upgraded my S3 Mini from stock 4.1.2 to CyanogenMod 11. Thinking I was clever, I took a full backup of everything with both Titanium Pro as well as Online Nandroid Backup before flashing CM11.
Only... it looks like I wasn't so clever after all.
If I use Titanium to restore the Contacts Data only then the Contacts application crashes on launch, every time. Some reading suggests that Titanium doesn't always work nicely with system functions, and Contacts is considered a system function. To be fair to Titanium, it warned me before doing the restore that the backup was from a different ROM and might not work.
My contacts weren't synchronised with my Google account so I can't restore from there.
Is there any way to get the Contacts and Messages data restored? Are there third-party programs (for any of Android, Windows, Linux, or OS X, all of which I have available) which can read Titanium backups and export the data in a format that CM11 can use?
You can use this app. I use it on cm11 without any problem at all.
I tried that program, but I can't get it to import from the Titanium backup files. Perhaps I'm missing something in the options, but all I can see there is to transfer data between the phone, the SIM, Google, and Excel.
However, it looks like a useful program for the future, to save me this sort of headache the next time I mess about with phone ROMs; thanks for the suggestion.
Well, I'm getting somewhere, and this is something to keep my occupied on Christmas Day morning while waiting for the rest of the house to wake up...
I went back through Titanium's support documentation again and found something I'd missed earlier: the program has an option to "migrate system data", which is recommended when restoring to a different ROM.
I've got my messages and contact groups back, but I still don't have the individual contacts back. But, progress is progress, and I'll keep plugging away at it.
Worst case scenario, I'll just re-enter them all by hand but I'd rather avoid that if possible.
Reverting back to the pre-rooted stock 4.1.2 firmware from this forum, in the hope that Titanium would happily restore everything without needing the "migrate system data" option didn't work, sadly. The phone got stuck in a boot loop, and reflashing the PARAM file didn't fix it. So, it looks like I'm stuck with CM11. Serves me right for jumping straight in with both feet; no-one else to blame but myself.
However, it looks like the Titanium backup is in SQLite format, so all is not lost. I've managed to dump the data table successfully, so all I need to do now is parse it for importing. But that can wait for another day, as the rest of the house has finally woken up and it's time for breakfast and presents.
Merry Christmas, everyone.
Well, I persevered and finally got the 4.1.2 rooted stock ROM back on the phone without it becoming stuck in a boot loop. Titanium was able to restore my contacts and messages successfully. Now to investigate a more sensible synchronisation/backup tool before messing with a custom ROM again, perhaps Phosimgo mentioned in the first reply.
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Loganberry said:
Well, I persevered and finally got the 4.1.2 rooted stock ROM back on the phone without it becoming stuck in a boot loop. Titanium was able to restore my contacts and messages successfully. Now to investigate a more sensible synchronisation/backup tool before messing with a custom ROM again, perhaps Phosimgo mentioned in the first reply.
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Seriously!?
I backed up all of my stuff with TitaniumBackUpPro and flashed from 4.1.2. to CM 11 and can't get my contacts restored either.
Your telling me in need to flash back to stock and export my contacts with a different app before flashing CM again?
How is that tool Phosimgo recomended?
I ended up using Super Backup. It worked flawlessly. For the future, my contacts are now backed up to my Google account.
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Hi,
Ive been away from the android world for quite some time, what is the easiest way to backup and restore app data when you are a rom flashing maniac? I know that note 8 doesnt have a lot of custom roms but old habits die hard
So far, Ive used titanium, its really slow specially the restoring part when you dont have the premium version.
Google backup is also internet based, Im looking for an offline type of backup and restore
There is also twrp, but I have never tested it
Thanks
nolexxes said:
Hi,
Ive been away from the android world for quite some time, what is the easiest way to backup and restore app data when you are a rom flashing maniac? I know that note 8 doesnt have a lot of custom roms but old habits die hard
So far, Ive used titanium, its really slow specially the restoring part when you dont have the premium version.
Google backup is also internet based, Im looking for an offline type of backup and restore
There is also twrp, but I have never tested it
Thanks
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If you use TWRP to back up your Rom it works just like it's supposed to, been using it for years. If you just want apps and app data I'd invest in the license for Titanium Backup, you can batch backup, batch restore and even make a flashable zip for your apps and data.
ggrant3876 said:
If you use TWRP to back up your Rom it works just like it's supposed to, been using it for years. If you just want apps and app data I'd invest in the license for Titanium Backup, you can batch backup, batch restore and even make a flashable zip for your apps and data.
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Twrp backups wouldnt work on another roms, I wanted to buy it anyway, thanks :good: