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Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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Check out the One Click Root thread in the Nexus S 4G Development section. See if that helps a little more. Your probably going to get flamed for posting this in this section, but oh well. Read that and try to get rooted first. Then if you need more help after that feel free to shoot me a PM and ill try to help you more. Read different threads as well, just search XDA for root NS4G. Hit me up if you need some help with anything.
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steveh552 said:
Let me say I had an EVO and used Unrevoked to root it and all I did was use that for wifi.
So now I have an unrooted Nexus. I am in a position that I want some of the custom things but have not rooted and a lot of this technical stuff floors me at this point and I do not want to brick my phone.
Can anyone tell me what it means to install via recovery, how to do a backup and what deoxxed (I know it is spelled wrong) is?
I want to put a custom home screen, I like the blue market I see and I like the clear MMS that is posted, but the install instructions just confuses me.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I really am wanting to customize my Nexus 4G.
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I went through the exact same thing. If you start reading more threads it will start coming to you. When you root, you need the drivers (adb and fastboot) installed on your computer, they come with either pdanet or sdk which you can find the download links to with a quick search of the forums. Find the stickied section of NS4G dev section and those should have all the files you need. Cwm is Clockwork Mod Recovery. It is flashed after unlocking the bootloader using a command prompt. After rooting and flashing cwm, you boot into recovery(cwm) and follow the instructions from a root guide to flash your new rom. I think BuglessPete has a great tutorial on root and flashing a rom. Find that and you're good to go. Don't get discouraged. It is NOT as hard or complicated as it seems. You will be surprised at how simple these guys have made it for us newcomers. Make sure you give them a thanks.
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So it was a day from you know what. I got rooted first this morning, I did the first update that I wanted which was the blue market, epic fail. I spent the whole day trying to get my market to work again, no go. I had not backed up (stupid me) and when put that new market in it was a FC galore. I tried downloading other market apk's including the market that is due to be released and none would install. I ended up flashing the phone with Oxygen ROM. Now I have to get the phone back to the way I like it, lots of apps to download (not sure why they did not restore since I am set to back up/restore from google servers) and go from there.
I will be doing more I am sure, lots of reading to do. Thanks to the two of you.
I am making this thread because I am seeing *far* too many people posting things when they have no idea what they do or when things are coming, or what things are possible with the phone at this point, so please take these answers into consideration when deciding to post either a new thread, or a reply to someone in an existing thread:
(Note: This thread will be continuously updated when more issues need to be addressed)
QUESTION NUMBER 1:
What can our phone do at this point (9/17/2011)?
At this point, our phones can do the following:
-Be rooted
-Use a bootstrap ClockworkMod Recovery
-Make nandroid backups
-Use the 2nd init booting process
QUESTION NUMBER 2:
What is bootstrap recovery?
Bootstrap recovery is an alternative form of recovery which "hijacks" the boot process and instead goes into a recovery mode that loads the ClockworkMod Recovery.
In order to boot into it, you *must* bootstrap it through the app on Android *every time you want to boot into recovery*.
QUESTION NUMBER 3:
What does having bootstrap recovery do for us?
With bootstrap recovery, we can do EVERYTHING that a normal recovery can do for us, *INCLUDING* installing ROMs and making nandroid backups.
QUESTION NUMBER 4:
Now that we have bootstrap recovery, does this mean we can use ROM Manager to install stuff?
No. No, no, no, a thousand times no. This is not an official 2nd init Recovery release from koush and ROM Manager WILL NOT work with the bootstrap version of recovery.
QUESTION NUMBER 5:
What is 2nd init?
2nd init is altering the init files in the system partition to take over the booting process so that we can load whatever we want to on boot. It is a way to get around the locking of the bootloader. This is also what allows CM7 to run on Moto phones with locked bootloaders.
QUESTION NUMBER 6 (this is the important one):
What does it mean when our bootloader is "locked"?
The bootloader being locked means that we are not allowed to flash unsigned images in fastboot or flash custom kernels to our phone that can alter features such as overclocking, or BFS, etc.
HOWEVER: This *does NOT* mean we cannot start making custom ROMs on our phone. The bootloader being locked has *nothing* to do with the system partition and custom ROMs are still completely viable and can be made and now freely distributed.
ALSO: There *are* ways to get around the fact that we cannot flash custom kernels. With 2nd init and kernel modules, we can freely get around the locked bootloader and even achieve features such as overclocking without having to flash a different kernel.
Please read this and understand this before you post.
very useful information here...there seems to be many in these forums that are new-to-root and this explains the current status very well. thanks for this and all of the help you have provided people already.
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I liked this thread since I just picked the bionic up yesterday, like it better than the Droid 3
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If your truly new to root i suggest waiting or reading alot before attempting anything here way to early to be rooting and have no idea what your doing that makes for a perfect bionic paperweight
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Bump-This needs a sticky.
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If your truly new to root i suggest waiting or reading alot before attempting anything here way to early to be rooting and have no idea what your doing that makes for a perfect bionic paperweight
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If you know what you're doing, there's not much risk...if you don't, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
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Berzerker7 said:
I am making this thread because I am seeing *far* too many people posting things when they have no idea what they do or when things are coming, or what things are possible with the phone at this point, so please take these answers into consideration when deciding to post either a new thread, or a reply to someone in an existing thread:
......Please read this and understand this before you post.
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Can you please include Pictures?
Forever root
Where can I find a link to Forever root and cheesecake?
Thankk you
Thanks
Nice write up. As a newbie I can't thank you enough for clearing those topics up in a short and sweet manner. Thanks!
this is the place for stupid questions?
im experienced (rooted droids) but total noob.
what is all the talk about 893 or 5.6something.
its seems totally differenent from ROMs but it looks like some say you need to have this # to use this rom and so forth. It looks also like people are screwing up there data with this stuff.
So...for people who want to Root&Rom is this stuff important? Where is info on what it actually is (893 and other #s)
covering my head and waiting for the smack...
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QUESTION NUMBER 4:
Now that we have bootstrap recovery, does this mean we can use ROM Manager to install stuff?
No. No, no, no, a thousand times no. This is not an official 2nd init Recovery release from koush and ROM Manager WILL NOT work with the bootstrap version of recovery.
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I was taking a look at the Bootstrap description on the market and it reads:
YOU MUST BE ROOTED TO USE THIS APPLICATION. FOR DROID BIONIC ONLY.
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS IF YOU AREN'T COMFORTABLE USING AN SBF!
Droid Bionic Recovery Bootstrap will set your phone up so you can access a custom recovery mode to create full backups of your phone and install new ROMs! Install ROM Manager afterwards for easy ROM installation and backup!
What does the developer mean by the last sentence of his description? Doesn't this conflict with FAQ #4? I'm just trying to make sense of everything before I begin using Roms... Thanks.
I have a verizon wireless droid 3..
I think the verizon part matters right? lol anyways, i just rooted m phone tonight and ive downloaded root explorer, root uninstaller, rom manager, and ti backup. id really like to "flash"(is that proper?) a new rom onto my phone. I understand one of the major options is steeldroid. /what else do i need to download to my pohne to get this rom? Im a complete noob when it comes to android. Period. I came from the sheltered world of blackberries.
I read a thread on another site which was a walkthrough and gave links, but the bootstrap link asks me question i dont have answers to. Help? :/ i download stuff to my computer?
a lot of explanations and links are in the 1st post from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
under "Flashing instructions:"
Just get a bootloader so you can get Clockwork installed and you can install the ROM from there. Just read up about it.
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bootloader? Is our bootloader unlocked?? we have a hijack bootstrap and 2nd-init but yes I would suggest grabbing hashcodes modified version of koush's clockworkmod and installing flashing from there.
how do i openn the .rar file that rsdlite is in?
Do i have to do the beginning steps if my phone is already rooted?
I know u just wanna flash it, but u should def do some reading. Using rsd u can really mess ur phone up! Make sure ur settings/about/system are 5.6.890 and install clockwork first. Then boot into clockwork and u can flash. Only use rsd if ur bricked and its last resort!
Edit: after re-reading, I highly suggest u read the original posts in the rom u want to flash. Make sure its in the droid 3 forum. No offense, but if ur unfamiliar with rar and zip, this may b a little too much
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I know u just wanna flash it, but u should def do some reading. Using rsd u can really mess ur phone up! Make sure ur settings/about/system are 5.6.890 and install clockwork first. Then boot into clockwork and u can flash. Only use rsd if ur bricked and its last resort!
Edit: after re-reading, I highly suggest u read the original posts in the rom u want to flash. Make sure its in the droid 3 forum. No offense, but if ur unfamiliar with rar and zip, this may b a little too much
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i agree w/ ya......with some roms they suggest using safestrap instead of just koushs modded bootstrap which may/may-not be the same as safestrap and if you use the wrong thing, you may chance bootlooping your phone or worse, so yeah......if he gave specific instructions, your best bet is to follow those for simplicity so that if you have issues you can just confirm using all the steps he listed unless you're an advanced modder and you know what you're doing
and to extract rar files, http://www.rarlab.com is the app you need
thanks for the help guys seriously.
i AM on 5.6.890, and im very familiar with .zip files just not .rar. didnt realize you had to use an outside program to open .rar
isnt clockworkmod the rom manager i downloaded?
i guess im looking for a "How to for dummies" of sorts. i know that i will be able to do this, i just want to do it right. Id hate to brick a phone I just got.
Clockwork is different from rom manager. I think steel droid just released a version u can use with safestrap, but read up on the safestrap and SD threads first! I jacked around with safestrap and bootlooped and rsd'd and bootlooped and now im back. Once u install clockwork mod, create a backup! Then, put the rom on ur sd card and select install zip from sd card. Don't use rsd unless ur really really messed up
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Okay so I download clockwork and safestrap(install to phone or computer? Links?) And after I do that create a backup, install the new ROM on my sd and open clockwork. And select install from sd...?
Droooooiiid.. the sound forever in our hearts and nightmares <3
Alright, call me mean, but if u can't figure out these next instructions, I can't help u. What's going to happen is ull screw up and then fret because u don't know how to rsd. Its very easy to bootloop!
search the forum for hashcodes tweaked bootstrapper (which is clockwork). I would stay away from the safestrap if I were u. U download this to ur phone, and install it like an .exe. once installed, hit bootstrap recovery, then when u hit reboot recovery, it will reboot into clockwork. Once in clockwork select backup and it will make a nandroid (exact copy). After that u can choose to install the roms zip from sd card. Once its finished, I highly suggest u use the wipe data/cache in clockwork. That will reset all ur data and become a new-out-of-box phone. If u bootloop, then u use rsd.
Be aware that u can brick ur phone. I've saw a few with low batteries get stuck! We all try to help here, but I think the best for u is to read instead of doing. We will try to help if u bootloop, but sometimes there is no fixing.
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MrJudylicious said:
Alright, call me mean, but if u can't figure out these next instructions, I can't help u. What's going to happen is ull screw up and then fret because u don't know how to rsd. Its very easy to bootloop!
search the forum for hashcodes tweaked bootstrapper (which is clockwork). I would stay away from the safestrap if I were u. U download this to ur phone, and install it like an .exe. once installed, hit bootstrap recovery, then when u hit reboot recovery, it will reboot into clockwork. Once in clockwork select backup and it will make a nandroid (exact copy). After that u can choose to install the roms zip from sd card. Once its finished, I highly suggest u use the wipe data/cache in clockwork. That will reset all ur data and become a new-out-of-box phone. If u bootloop, then u use rsd.
Be aware that u can brick ur phone. I've saw a few with low batteries get stuck! We all try to help here, but I think the best for u is to read instead of doing. We will try to help if u bootloop, but sometimes there is no fixing.
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yeah, safestrap isn't compatable w/ all roms at the moment, and like mrjudy said, low battery can affect rom flashing...suggested is >75% battery life
To add to MrJudylicious post...
I came from a blackberry too, before I got my first Android 2 years ago.
Here's what you should do. First, Familiarize yourself with the Android ecosystem. Flashing ROMs on a brand new phone is tempting, but at the same time, you have no mental reference of how Android was before you flashed that ROM, so it's hard for you to compare and see what's best for you, and what's not. What new feature you was added, what has been improved over your last ROM, etc...
I used Android for 6 months before rooting for the first time, just to give myself some time to learn what's nice about it, and also what I would like for it to achieve, that it can't do without root.
I flashed my first ROM 1 year after that, and this was a great time. Why ? Because I saw how cool things became, I was able to compare the ROM with my "stock android" experience.
I read all your posts in this thread, and you make me feel like you might not be ready to jump in feet first in this. All the ROMS for the Droid3 are in very early stage of development and, if I would be you, would wait for them to become more stable and reliable. I'm not saying that they should not be used at all, just saying that it might not be the best idea for you yo do this RIGHT NOW.
Please do yourself a favor, and keep your phone as it is right now. Root is OK, but be careful.
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To add to MrJudylicious post...
I came from a blackberry too, before I got my first Android 2 years ago.
Here's what you should do. First, Familiarize yourself with the Android ecosystem. Flashing ROMs on a brand new phone is tempting, but at the same time, you have no mental reference of how Android was before you flashed that ROM, so it's hard for you to compare and see what's best for you, and what's not. What new feature you was added, what has been improved over your last ROM, etc...
I used Android for 6 months before rooting for the first time, just to give myself some time to learn what's nice about it, and also what I would like for it to achieve, that it can't do without root.
I flashed my first ROM 1 year after that, and this was a great time. Why ? Because I saw how cool things became, I was able to compare the ROM with my "stock android" experience.
I read all your posts in this thread, and you make me feel like you might not be ready to jump in feet first in this. All the ROMS for the Droid3 are in very early stage of development and, if I would be you, would wait for them to become more stable and reliable. I'm not saying that they should not be used at all, just saying that it might not be the best idea for you yo do this RIGHT NOW.
Please do yourself a favor, and keep your phone as it is right now. Root is OK, but be careful.
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perfection if i've ever seen it i was in a similar situation, i had a rooted phone and there were next to no roms for the first android phone i got, so when i got my incredible 2 the first thing i did was root it since it was essentially the same exact FW and layout, and i've been mod-happy ever since lol
thanks guys, you've been a massive help forreal. Maybe an idea for you guys to make the learning process better for n00bs such as myself, is to make a thread and discuss some of the terms, acronyms, file names exes apks bak and such. And sticky that thread so when you do your best to try and help someone they can better understand you guys.
Just an idea though. I think ill just wait to flash ROMs and whatnot.
Droooooiiid.. the sound forever in our hearts and nightmares <3
Sorry I used the wrong term. I meant bootstrap not bootloader.
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Hi there guys. As you probably noticed,i'm new here,so pardon me if my question sounds noobish at the time,but I promise I'll learn from you guys! Thanks!
So,the question's simple. How do I update my phone's firmware? Don't wanna brick or possibly damage my phone here,as I just bought a couple of days ago. So,is there any risk to update the phone's firmware? Thanks bros!
Have you use search features before asking this question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111771
Yeah,saw that already,but it seems to convoluted for me. I need a one-to-one kinda reply. Honestly,I didn't understand anything that was written on that page. So,could please someone clarify it in a more simple,noobish,way?
Thanks bro!
pdf guides are included in the kit. just follow them
either you can use KDZ or R&D for the official
or flash any custom ROM with CWM
(the tutor is already out there)
and the risk ? bootloop or brick maybe
Thanks bros! And another thing,what are custom ROMs? I keep hearing about it like Cyanogen? What's the upside for using it?
Laier94 said:
Thanks bros! And another thing,what are custom ROMs? I keep hearing about it like Cyanogen? What's the upside for using it?
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Custom roms in simple terms are unofficial versions of the o/s modified or "cooked" by people who want to add or remove certain features or performance tweaks. The upside is you can find a ROM that suits your usage and aesthetic preferences. For more info read through some ROM threads and compare their features.
However there is always a chance something could go wrong even if you know what you are doing. So my advice would be to read and re read the instructions from rooting to flashing radios to flashing roms and look up the termanology until you think you understand and then read it all again. There are some good guides around that can givevyou the basics.
Otherwise you can wait until your carrier releases a official update.
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Thanks for clarifying bros!
And another thing,I just saw this vid at Youtube.
It's called "How To Install CyanogenMod 7 On Your Android Device"
I can't post the link here because im still new,haha!
Is it really that easy to install Cyanogenmod on your phone? But your phone have to be rooted first,right?
I saw the list with the firmware from various countries,but not mine,Malaysia. How do I solve this? I'm still suck with V10-a,which i think is the oldest firmware for OB.
Also,what are these baseband,kernel and build number thingies? Anything important? Thanks! Really starting to get interested in these things!
I think the following is related to malayians so you have to use an indonesian firmware :
http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/tool_mode_country_check.jsp?model=LGP970&country=MY
- you can flash firmwares anytime whatever the situation
- to flash a ROM (cyanogen, nova...) you need the custom recovery mod called ClockworkMod alias CWM (available on the market via ROM Manager app, or my kit)
- and for CWM, root access is needed
once phone is rooted and CWM installed, phone potential is extended to the infinite. you can then install a lot of useful apps of more and customize your phone.
I think the general goal of all of that, is to optimize and extend possibilities as far as possible and then you'll be able to say that you "truly own" your phone
Thanks for clearing that up bro. BTW,would you recommend me using Gingerbreak to root my phone? Since i'm using an older firmware,it should be ok,right?
no problem, blackjack should do it too. do as your feeling
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no problem, blackjack should do it too. do as your feeling
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Thanks bro! Anyway,anything else I should know and do before I root my phone? Like should I do a factory reset,battery level 100% or something?
2 steps : root, flash recovery.
know that you'll have to use an app to boot into recovery (ROM manager, anreboot, ezboot...) take a look at my thread for more infos
Ilko said:
2 steps : root, flash recovery.
know that you'll have to use an app to boot into recovery (ROM manager, anreboot, ezboot...) take a look at my thread for more infos
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Great! Cool bro,thanks! And sorry for the stupid question,but what are KDZs?
firmware files are in .kdz format
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firmware files are in .kdz format
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Ouh,wow,did that felt stupid,haha. So what you're saying is,after rooting my phone,I should get to installing ClockWorkMod Recovery,am I right? And the only way to install it is using the computer,connect it with the phone,and execute the UPK that you have provided in your download link. After that,I use the app,EzBoot,to boot into recovery mode,is this correct?
After that,what will I do in the recovery mode? Thankies again!
all right. as I said earlier, the recovery mode extends phone potential in an easy way. many ROMs and mods must be did via recovery. in fact, CWM helps you flashing files, roms, doing backups/restorations and more. jump the step and see by yourself.
don't forget to backup before anything
Ilko said:
all right. as I said earlier, the recovery mode extends phone potential in an easy way. many ROMs and mods must be did via recovery. in fact, CWM helps you flashing files, roms, doing backups/restorations and more. jump the step and see by yourself.
don't forget to backup before anything
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By backing up,you mean backing up contacts and internal memory stuffs,right?
All right! Will root my phone as soon as my charge hits 100%! Using gingerbreak! Is the root reverse-able? I mean,can I unroot my phone once I root it?
you don't need 100% battery as long phone is plugged. for now, blackjack doesn't have a reverse process. but gingerbreak, yes, considering the fact you stay on v10a/b. you may try with the new superoneclick. the most radical method is still flashing a firmware (so you'll lose all stuffs)
and yes, backup any saveable thing. although CWM saves all datas, more safety is more safe
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you don't need 100% battery as long phone is plugged. for now, blackjack doesn't have a reverse process. but gingerbreak, yes, considering the fact you stay on v10a/b. you may try with the new superoneclick. the most radical method is still flashing a firmware (so you'll lose all stuffs)
and yes, backup any saveable thing. although CWM saves all datas, more safety is more safe
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Sorry bro,can't quite understand you here. Flashing firmware? For what? I'm just gonna root my phone right? No need to flash,right?
I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-
MeeGz said:
I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-
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The RUU DOES NOT CONTAIN MY ROM. It is an official tool used by HTC for upgrading and returning to stock.
Android market will keep tabs on purchased apps. It will not keep track of free apps.
You need an sdcard to keep safe.
The RUU is easy to run. Its just an exe. Follow the on-screen prompts.
I don't know what you are trying to restore but it would appear you have your terminology and methods all mixed up.
RUU will get you a stock ics. And it will wipe your apps and settings. It will act like a phone you just pulled out of the box with ics.
In order to run rum float (or any aftermarket rom) you need to unlock your bootloader. Rooting has nothing to do with it. Unlock bl then flash recovery on then flash rom and kernel.
Your steps as you perceive them are slightly off. I don't recommend you do anything to your phone right now.
After you complete the RUU you'd have to go to htc.dev and unlock your bootloader. After you can fastboot flash a recovery and CWM with root. After that's complete you can flash a rom of your choice. I'd get familiar with using fastboot commands in ADB (command prompt). I guess you can use the supertool to root but it isn't necessary really a matter of preference. Check out the superguide. Maybe PG or someone can update it with specific steps if you are using the RUU but the process is the same. It starts with the unlocking the bootloader. Definitely pick up an SD card!
Thanks for the quick replies and the clarification. I think I get it now, I would do the following to get to a rooted custom ICS Rom: Unlock the boot loader, root and run titanium backup to save my apps(using an ad card), run the RUU and get to stock HTC ics, copy ROM to sd card, re-root, download and run CWM, root again and restore apps with titanium backup, enjoy!
The only things that may be a bit off in that process is running the RUU as I don't need that to just flash a custom ROM, assuming said ROM includes the ICS kernel. If did have to use the RUU would I have to re-root to run cwm? Also the actual ROM itself is installed from HBoot, correct?
Sorry if these sound like dumb questions, I'm just new at this. I really appreciate the replies. I'm sure I will pick this up fairly quickly as I have years of linux & OS X command line experience and am well versed with c. It's just kind of information overload on this board as there is such a wealth and variety of info here!
Thanks again,
-MeeGz-
So you can run the ruu.exe even if you are rooted, unlocked bootloader, on att stock? Or do you have have to relock bootloader to proceed with the ruu?
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RUU is for stock roms IIRC. If you are rooted and already unlocked I'd use the original method PG and Thecubed created.
back on my computer for a little better explanation.
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
PS. you have involved ROOTING too many times in your post...... the rom is already ROOTED, you dont have to ROOT to unlock, flash rom or anything....ROOTING is only applicable INSIDE the booted OPERATING SYSTEM, and has nothing to do with recovery/bootloader
i feel i need to apologize to the board here.
frustrations were not directed at the OP of this thread, just in general....
i have been inundated with PM's and seeing the same barrage of questions for the last few days on the forum....
i can understand everyone's excitement...hell i was excited to get this too.
but you all need to read, and try to take it all in before attempting anything. sometimes those of us that understand whats going on, dont explain in a whole lot of detail, because we take the knowledge for granted, and assume if you are on this site, you are here to learn. it is frustrating to see the same questions pop up on nearly an hourly basis...
all i ask is that you take forth the effort to learn how these tools of ours work and understand that a lot of us working on things like this rely on you guys to assist each other in the process. that leaves us more time to deal with what we need to deal with and try and fix and squash bugs/processes/etc.
in return i apologize if i seem on edge the last couple of days...its because i am. if you can imagine one question multiplied by a hundred.....and having people freaking out about them 'bricking'.....after being warned its possible, but unlikely. i think most of these 'bricks' are salvageable and just require someone that understands how they work.
sorry to seem like an ass, but mainly its because i am an ass, and i have a hard time being nice most of the time.
Thanks pirateghost. I understand how to do the other methods but wanted to use something less complicated with less risk for user error. I read and read everything that is posted on the forums. I try not to ask a question unless I am not understanding what has been posted. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
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PG, so im pretty sure i "bricked" it lol. im not upset as it was entirely my fault, just wondering if there is any way to get this mother to turn on? i know that when i plug it into the computer it recognizes it but not as anything i have seen lol..if i can find the correct drivers can this be reversed?
Thanks
Thanks to PG for everything and the instructions. I thought I had bricked my phone, but theCube was able to help me on IRC, which is where I suggest anybody go for real-time assistance.
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares
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As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.
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As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.
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As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.
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I totally 100% agree with you. If you HAVE taken the time to read and are still a bit confused, ask! For me I'm not even a week into this platform and I WILL NOT do anything that I don't entirely understand. The problem with android, if you could even call it a problem, is that there is such a huge variety of handsets and a big variety methods for doing this, that, and the other thing. It basically results in a non-linear process to get from point A to point B. It's imperative to understand the basic proceedures. If you were here since the G1, great, you've been able to.follow things from the start. I've used iOS for years, and I still love it btw.(only jailbroken of course!) I'll probably buy an iPad 3! The software is integrated with the hardware amazingly well, battery life is phenomenal, and ONCE JAILBROKEN, iOS is an excellent platform. Sure the "spec numbers" may not be as high but it boils down to.performance. That has always been great for me, obviously battery life is exceptional on apple devices as well. I'm hoping with a rooted ICS Rom there won't be cpu-time hogging processes and ill be able to adjust other things accordingly to get somewhat better battery life. I really wish each OEM would take the time to optimize the SW that they're using to the HW that they're selling. B/C from what I've seen the "Nexus" devices generally perform extremely well, even.against higher spec'd devices. So far I'm loving Android and my Vivid. I love the freedom that I get even on a non-rooted device! It's an excellent platform. Flexible, dynamic, and personal. Customization is there from the get-go. There are a million different things that one could do, even while staying un-rooted. The only reason that I've waited so long to get on board with android is ibwas waiting for it to grow and mature, if I could have a device that tri-booted Android, iOS, and WebOS I'd be a very happy person. I love using multiple platforms.
PG - I'm sorry if I bothered you, thanks for the great info though!
I think knowledge-wise I'm at a point where I'm not going to brick my phone. Wish me luck!
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oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.
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Seriously if that is how you feel do get the f*ck off this site please. The devs in all mobile hacking communities are unpaid and do it for fun. You sir are a prime example of WHY THEY LEAVE!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND HAVE READ, ASK, DON'T BE A ****!!!
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This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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REALLY? You want the UNNPAID DEV'S TO REMOVE ALL THREATS?!?!?! FROM WHAT IS BASICALLY OSS AND A FIRMWARE THAT SOMEBODY DL'D? REALLY? These guys take a FW and cook it into a ROM for FREE and just b/c you didn't take the time to understand it you're gonna put it on them? WTF?!?!?!?
i'll make him a deal. next time we get a hold of something like this, i will let him figure out how to get it on his phone....i don't have to share how...
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This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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You know, its users like you that get Devs frustrated and not want to share the work that they have accomplished. XDA is a site for Devs, its not a WalMart that people can stop by and expect to be spoonfed and be on their merry way. Pirateghost is a very talented Dev who wanted to share something with this community, and instead of saying "thank you" you decide to look a the glass as half empty instead of half full and EXPECT MORE from him?
Reading your post, it tells me that you dont frequent the HTC forums at all, and instead of reading up, you just decided to flash. Just because it didnt go as smoothly as you thought it would is NO REASON to tell a Dev that they needed to do more. That part lays on you.
Next time you decide to tell a Dev that "they need to do more" I think you need to do more reading so it prevents you from having to buy a new phone. If it dosent make sense to you or you dont think theres enough documentation/step-by-step instructions YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NO AND NOT FLASH IT.
Uh, there's a reason every single solitary dev puts a disclaimer on their ROM threads. Their work, if directions are not followed to the letter can turn your device into a +/- 200$ paperweight. I've been lurking around these forums for a hot minute, rarely post ( not an ounce of dev skill being the main reason), and really, when's the last time a dev didn't post at least semi detailed instructions to go along with his/her OP.
@pirateghost- bought a vivid literally 12 hours ago, got home, saw your thread, FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY, and now have ICS on my device. Just wanted to say thanks.
And now for the most epic noob question of all time. Wth is RUU? I'm very familiar with flashing roms, cam, tibu, etc from my days on the sgsII SR forums. So most if not all HTC terminology is new to me.
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