[Q] Low volume through headphones (common question, different approach..?) - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So this is a really common problem and I see a lot of solutions to it on the forums, but none which seem to actually target the actual source of the problem. I have a pair of good to excellent quality monitor headphones, and the volume when using them is really, really low. I've other headphones too (normal earbuds) which are a little louder but nowhere near where they should be.
I've tried the recommended options (using EQ settings, compression and ramping up the EQ), and some Apps to boost volume, but these seem to be boosting gain in software which results in really bad distortion. My guess is that the hardware gain is limited somehow.
There's an Audio section in service mode (*#*#197328640#*#*) which supposedly allows you to change the default gain but on my phone there's no submenu, it just throws back to the original menu. (Could this have something to do with kernel version..?)
I've also heard that on some phones (or maybe kernel / rom versions?) there's a file like default_gain.conf or similar which allows you to change the settings, but there's nothing like that on mine, even after extensive searching.
I'm looking for a proper solution instead of a software gain booster approach as it just leaves audio distorted.. maybe someone with a little more knowledge of how Android handles sound would help..?
For the record, and just in case it's rom / kernel related, I'm using Paranoid Android 2.57.2-Utacka and kernel 3.0.15-cm.. (I thought I'd flashed Hydracore v7, maybe I have but it's not there in system settings).
It'd be really cool to solve this problem once and for all... so if anyone can even hint at a solution it'd be much appreciated..

chemeleon said:
So this is a really common problem and I see a lot of solutions to it on the forums, but none which seem to actually target the actual source of the problem. I have a pair of good to excellent quality monitor headphones, and the volume when using them is really, really low. I've other headphones too (normal earbuds) which are a little louder but nowhere near where they should be.
I've tried the recommended options (using EQ settings, compression and ramping up the EQ), and some Apps to boost volume, but these seem to be boosting gain in software which results in really bad distortion. My guess is that the hardware gain is limited somehow.
There's an Audio section in service mode (*#*#197328640#*#*) which supposedly allows you to change the default gain but on my phone there's no submenu, it just throws back to the original menu. (Could this have something to do with kernel version..?)
I've also heard that on some phones (or maybe kernel / rom versions?) there's a file like default_gain.conf or similar which allows you to change the settings, but there's nothing like that on mine, even after extensive searching.
I'm looking for a proper solution instead of a software gain booster approach as it just leaves audio distorted.. maybe someone with a little more knowledge of how Android handles sound would help..?
For the record, and just in case it's rom / kernel related, I'm using Paranoid Android 2.57.2-Utacka and kernel 3.0.15-cm.. (I thought I'd flashed Hydracore v7, maybe I have but it's not there in system settings).
It'd be really cool to solve this problem once and for all... so if anyone can even hint at a solution it'd be much appreciated..
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try doing a factory reset and clear all cache memory to bring every thing to default.. if that doesn't get u the expected results then u have to use the software or apps to boost it.. if there is a serious problem then get the 3.5 mm jack replaced..

Actually.. I found multiple solutions that seem to work together.. first, I bought a small device (FiiO E3) which is basically a tiny battery powered headphone amp (it sucks in terms of volume boost, something like 3db, but does the trick..). .. then I found the *one* app that actually seems to work with my device, Voodoo Louder.. these in tandem seem to get the desired result, albeit I still have to enable Compression in the eq to get sound loud enough to hear over the noise of the busy street, but there's little distortion. I'd definately recommend the amp seeing as of the countless I've tried it's the only one that actually does the trick...

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microphone pickup

It doesnt seem to vary by the rom, my microphone seems to be picking up all the sound around the phone alot, making conversations extremely hard.
I have the same issue
and as it seems others do also.
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613067 )
I was unable to find any solution though.
Try meltus' v3 audio mod with the speaker gain tweaks. It's free in the dev section or if you want the UI get it from the market and support the dev that way.
Thank you evilkorn.
I've tried the meltus files (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620956&highlight=microphone).
There is much improvement.

Is anyone's earpiece actually TOO LOUD?

Hello All,
I searched first by the way :-/
Recently my Nexus has had its earpiece too loud for both Incoming and Outgoing Calls.
At first I thought it had something to do with the radio, so I downgraded. It actually worked on the first call but after that it was loud as heck even on the lowest volume.
I tried to retrace my steps with my applications next, but nothing that would point to the earpiece. The last apps installed updated where mostly games like Fruit Ninja and Aliens vs. Humans, so I think we can rule out that.
The specs in my sig should be up to date.
The only variable that has changed other than the ones listed above is the fact that I recently bought a Jawbone Icon Bluetooth Headset. But to my memory, this issue began before that.
Can't find a solution anywhere cause it seems most people have an issue with the phone being too soft lol.
I'm really looking for some help guys. I'm just short of wiping the phone clean and reinstalling CM6 and my apps. If that dosen't work I'll have to use the warranty I guess. Had the phone from about Sept 10 I believe.
Let me know if I missed anything guys. All ideas are welcomed to fix this issue.
It's probably because of CM. CM uses a audio boost kernel by default, so I'm guessing that's the problem. Try installing no audio boost kernel to see if it solves the issue.
yeah if you are using cyanogen ROM, they added an audio boost hack long ago. on cyan 5.0.8 the audio boost was so loud that over 50% volume started to distort the speaker and kill your ears. so in later releases they split the difference and lowered it somewhat.
but the boost has always been there. the only likely possibility is that you recently started enabling DSP settings like compression or the EQ, which would suddenly now make things way louder.
Wow thanks guys. Had no clue that CM had an audio boosted kernel. Guess I'll be flashing something else for the while. Something as close to vanilla I guess.
Oh, I also checked the DSP settings, everything was off but was worth a shot.
Thanks again for the replies!
Just to let anyone with the same issue know, I found away around it. I installed one of Wildmonks kernels without the audio fix.
Kernel 2.6.35.10 to be exact. I get to keep my cyan features and have a decent volume ear piece too. Yay!
Good work. It's funny cause most people complain this phone is too quiet. If only they see this post!

[Q] Zio with very low volume by default... am I the only one?

I just acquired a Cricket Zio yesterday and have been playing around with it for the past 24 hours or so. Got the CWM "easy" working, reset it to the factory 2.2.1 stock Cricket ROM (from this thread) and then installed OpenZio 2.1.2 without any issues. Runs fine at 729 MHz, again without issues.
But the one thing that's disappointing me - and I mean seriously disappointing me - is the absurdly low audio volume. Videos, music, streams, doesn't matter, it's just insanely low. Now, before anyone jumps to conclusions, I've got an HD2 that I've tweaked to hell and back oh, hundreds of times (currently the one listed in my sig), and we all know the HD2 can really crank out the sounds without problems. I have a set of Koss earbuds (IEMs, they go into the ear canal and seal it off), and I've got a set of Koss KSC-75 earclips (my primary listening device).
With either of those plugged into the HD2 or any other device I own, like my Dell Axim X51v, my original Motorola Droid, and several other devices including an iPod touch too, those earbuds and earclips bring out all the sound quality the device is capable of, without issues.
But I plug them into the Zio and it's... well... meh. With bleh on top of that...
I located the Louder Volume Hack in the hopes it would help, but it doesn't matter which version I try or on either ROM (stock Cricket or OpenZio) it just FCs and never runs.
So my question is: for those people that I've read posts by that say the Zio has 'excellent audio quality' I have to ask: am I missing something someplace?
I've enabled Stagefright (on the stock Cricket ROM and on OpenZio also), makes zero difference in audio quality or audio volume, although it does seem to smooth things out a bit. Let's face it: I don't know why people keep calling this phone "a beast" 'cause I see no evidence of it. But for $50 and a pure fully working fully functional Android phone, it's doing just fine.
Yes, I wish it had multitouch, yes I wish it was bigger, and yes, I wish it was faster (even overclocked and with all the tweaks I've been reading about it's still rather perversely sluggish even though the Quadrant scores put it above the original Nexus One, go figure).
But what I'd really love is to do something about that audio, boost it up in some manner that I might not be aware of just yet. The HD2? Oh, man that can push my KSC-75 earclips so high I can't tolerate it.
And again, I understand this is actually a very low quality Android phone, but can anyone make any suggestions that might help with the low audio volume issue? All the settings are maxed out and it's still just incredibly low (and yes, it's fairly tinny with hardly any bass at all but that's secondary to the actual volume itself needing some healthy raising).
If anyone has any advice, I'm listening... figuratively speaking.
I have noticed that after i flashed to openzio, awesome rom btw my volume is lower then what it was with the stock rom. Like for an example if i put the ringer volume to one notch below half way the ringer will not sound and the phone just vibrates. With the stock rom i can turn the ringer all the way down to it activates the vibrate only mode and then go up 2 notches and the phone would still play the ring tone on the incoming call. With openzio the volume meter has to be at least half way or over half way for the ringtone to sound.

[Q] Sound quirk - is this normal?

I bought a Galaxy Note a month or so ago. I'm not sure if this happened before the ICS update or if it came with it as it's still all a bit new. I'm wondering if the following behaviour is a fault (hardware or otherwise), is a setting that I can alter or if it "just is".
I use the Note a lot to play music especially at night as I'm going to sleep, when I have the Note on either the quietest volume setting or something close to it. I have noticed that when the volume level is low on quiet passages in the music it drops out altogether. This is quite noticable as any background hiss (on older recordings) drops to silent then comes back in again as the music approaches a louder passage. It does the same on video.
It can be quite annoying and very distracting. If I turn the volume up (past about half way on quieter, older recordings) the problem vanishes completly so it looks like an issue with the pre-amp or DAC?
I have tried different audio players and different headphones with no change. I have also tried playing music without headphones (using the in-built speaker) and think that does it also, although it's harder to tell.
The wierd thing is googling around I can't find anyone reporting the same problem, which makes me think I possibly have a fault. Any ideas? Could someone else with a Note on ICS try the same thing and report their findings?
Test is: find somewhere very quiet. Play some quiet music on the Note and turn the volume right down until it is barely audible with the earphone pressed in. Try different pieces of music and see if the sound drops out on quieter passages - for me, it does.
StarFishUK said:
I bought a Galaxy Note a month or so ago. I'm not sure if this happened before the ICS update or if it came with it as it's still all a bit new. I'm wondering if the following behaviour is a fault (hardware or otherwise), is a setting that I can alter or if it "just is".
I use the Note a lot to play music especially at night as I'm going to sleep, when I have the Note on either the quietest volume setting or something close to it. I have noticed that when the volume level is low on quiet passages in the music it drops out altogether. This is quite noticable as any background hiss (on older recordings) drops to silent then comes back in again as the music approaches a louder passage. It does the same on video.
It can be quite annoying and very distracting. If I turn the volume up (past about half way on quieter, older recordings) the problem vanishes completly so it looks like an issue with the pre-amp or DAC?
I have tried different audio players and different headphones with no change. I have also tried playing music without headphones (using the in-built speaker) and think that does it also, although it's harder to tell.
The wierd thing is googling around I can't find anyone reporting the same problem, which makes me think I possibly have a fault. Any ideas? Could someone else with a Note on ICS try the same thing and report their findings?
Test is: find somewhere very quiet. Play some quiet music on the Note and turn the volume right down until it is barely audible with the earphone pressed in. Try different pieces of music and see if the sound drops out on quieter passages - for me, it does.
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I found this happening on a fade out of a song (Bjork - Play Dead). On volume 1 the sound would cut out much earlier than on volume 2. It sounds like a classic noise reduction technique kicking in - designed to reduce hiss.
Not much pop music is mixed like this any more I don't think. You'd certainly notice it more on Classical music where the dynamic range is far greater than Pop.
krypton_the_slayer said:
I found this happening on a fade out of a song (Bjork - Play Dead). On volume 1 the sound would cut out much earlier than on volume 2. It sounds like a classic noise reduction technique kicking in - designed to reduce hiss.
Not much pop music is mixed like this any more I don't think. You'd certainly notice it more on Classical music where the dynamic range is far greater than Pop.
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Perfect - yes, that describes my problem. And yes, it is classical music where I find it most noticeable (especially older recordings which tend to be quieter with quite a bit of background hiss). I wonder if there is any way to diable the noise reduction...?
Appreciate your help. At least I now know I don't have a faulty device. Massive thanks.
By the way the best answer I have so far is to play on higher sound levels and use an set of headphones with an old style (non digital) volume control to bring the sound back down to a reasonable level at the earphonesd. Pretty poor solution really - had hoped for better from my lovely new Note.
+1 big problem for my...and now...not solutions...waiting...
I have this issue since Samsung replaced my mainboard. It happens on stock ICS and CM9. I haven't tried Gingerbread.
Could this be a hardware problem?
Is there any fix to this yet, this is exactly my problem, good tip about using an in-line headphone volume control though
The same bug. Please fix it somebody.
I too have this problem with my new Galaxy Note (ICS 4.0.4). I'd be interested to hear from any Note users that *do not* have this problem when playing back audio at low volumes. If you don't notice the audio completely dropping out, please list what version of Android you're running. Thanks!
I guess we need some more experimentation to see if it's a hardware or software issue (or both).
naytheet said:
I too have this problem with my new Galaxy Note (ICS 4.0.4). I'd be interested to hear from any Note users that *do not* have this problem when playing back audio at low volumes. If you don't notice the audio completely dropping out, please list what version of Android you're running. Thanks!
I guess we need some more experimentation to see if it's a hardware or software issue (or both).
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Hi,
I am quite sure this is a software bug. When my note was using gingerbread, it was OK. It started to behave this wasy after the (official) ICS upgrade. Some of my friends are using unofficial ROMs (4.0.3 or 4.0.4) and it is ok - I tested it. So my conclusion is that samsung put some software trying to reduce noise in low audio volume, but it's not working as it should be...
More people are stumbling upon this noise gate problem:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=35861
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717425
I experience it on ICS and also on CM9, only with headphones plugged in (not when listening to music via bluetooth on the Sony MW600).
It does not occur on Gingerbread, but I don't like to use that ROM as a daily driver...
Can anyone confirm if there are custom ROMS that do not have this behavior?
Or is there maybe some way to replace the ICS media playback service with the GB one?
Well, all ICS-based custom ROMs I've tried suffer the same irritating behavior.
And it also turns out that GB has the same kind of noise gate, but the threshold seems to be a lot lower and therefore it doesn't kick in that often.
But I've just installed a CM10 nightly, and that seems to solve the issue.
my 2 cents
I can confirm, that I have similar problem.
I have the problems only when watching movies. the sound just cuts off when the character stops speaking, so it cuts off the background sound.
I tried different kernels, ROM´s... same problems on GB, ICS, CM9...
I have a hillBilly solution that works for me! When ever the sound cutting starts, I just change the volume for one level. The cutting will off course repeat... but it's indeed better than listen to the clipping...
For black clipping I use highest brightness and film screen mode. It does the trick for me...
But it just pisses me of when I realize that I have the phone with ****ty screen, sound and bricking danger...
wtf sammy... i just cant belive that i paid 540 eur for this, its sad
DonLaDroid
please delete....
double post....
This is bugging me too.
Would this be something controlled by the kernel?
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Also being discussed at http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=35861
Please, can anyone using a non Touchwiz ICS or JB Rom tell us if this is happening for them?
burtcom said:
This is bugging me too.
Would this be something controlled by the kernel?
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Please, can anyone using a non Touchwiz ICS or JB Rom tell us if this is happening for them?
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Just flashed latest PA, and its till there!
Im not an expert! Does anyone remember a background noise reduction option while making a call in GB??
I cant find it in ICS or PA. I think that this background noise redustion system is causing the cutting. It must be somehow connected.... im not an dev or anything but my gut tells me that this could be!
anyone?
Take care
DonLaDroid
OK all, let's figure out what ROMs don't have this problem, and start bugging the Devs to try to fix it on the others :laugh:
Well, I just noticed that the sound cut-off is also back on the unofficial 08/31 build of CM10. It was much less noticeable on the 08/28 build. :crying:
The difference between the two builds is a huge decrease in sound volume: build 08/28 was much louder than the latest one. Maybe the noise gate simply doesn't kick in so soon when the system volume is cranked up. You basically get the same effect when turning up the volume completely and turn it down with an inline analog control - as suggested by StarFishUK in post #3.
So my question would be what makes the volume louder on 08/28?
And how can I get that 'cranked up volume' on newer CM10 builds or preferably on ICS roms? Any ideas?
By the way, I totally agree with your 2 cents DonLaDroid. I never had this much trouble with my old Dell Streak...
Haven't noticed this myself (CM10), but i've noticed something incredible annoying in CM builds, and that's when i'm listening to music with headsets and i'm increasing the volume, it seems that it's "missing" a couple of steps. So when i'm increasing the volume it'll go from 5 to 8 in one step, and not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,
It should be: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
But it is: 0,1,2,3,4,5,8
How to test this problem. ..
Go to a quiet room.
Set audio level to one (one click up from silence)
Play some music with soft passages.
For me, the sound shuts off during quiet audio for speaker and wired headset. Note that this isn't simply an absence of sound. The sound turns off then suddenly starts again in the middle of a louder passage.
Bluetooth doesn't have the problem.
A gentleman on one of the Kernel threads believes this may be a hardware issue. The sound clips to cover noise from the speaker.
All, it seems that this is a "feature" of our phone. We will need to contact Samsung for the word on if this is a hardware issue or of it can be fixed via software. Right now it seems this happens in all ROMs, Touchwiz or AOSP.
Workaround is to use Bluetooth or a wired headset with an analog volume control.

Whats a good option to raise system volume?

I generally don't have an issue with the volume levels on my turbo.. but there is one area where I find it lacking.. with headphones in, some of my music just doesn't go loud enough in certain situations. I have tried a few nice pairs of earbuds and most of them I have this problem. I've also occasionally run into this problem with an output to speakers. I wouldn't have to raise it much, which is good because I would prefer not to deteriorate sound quality.. but a slight increase would be perfect.
I saw a couple other threads with similar questions but didn't really see a good solution.. now that we have root, has any utilized any system tweaks to accomplish this successfully?
Cryptrix said:
I generally don't have an issue with the volume levels on my turbo.. but there is one area where I find it lacking.. with headphones in, some of my music just doesn't go loud enough in certain situations. I have tried a few nice pairs of earbuds and most of them I have this problem. I've also occasionally run into this problem with an output to speakers. I wouldn't have to raise it much, which is good because I would prefer not to deteriorate sound quality.. but a slight increase would be perfect.
I saw a couple other threads with similar questions but didn't really see a good solution.. now that we have root, has any utilized any system tweaks to accomplish this successfully?
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1. Use a root browser to open /system/etc/mixer_paths.xml
2. Figure out which values correspond to the headphones volume.
3. Increase those values and save the file.
Also, I've found that CM-based roms are much louder than stock-based roms, so you could just flash one of those.
TheSt33v said:
1. Use a root browser to open /system/etc/mixer_paths.xml
2. Figure out which values correspond to the headphones volume.
3. Increase those values and save the file.
Also, I've found that CM-based roms are much louder than stock-based roms, so you could just flash one of those.
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Thanks for the advice.. I don't think I'll be flashing any roms of my own for my turbo anytime soon.. I like the stock feel and am happy performing my own system tweaks. Since I haven't unlocked yet stupid kingroot will "root" but won't let me mod the /system partition, so i'll have to get that out of the way first.
Have you performed that mod on the turbo or you just know the process?
Cryptrix said:
Thanks for the advice.. I don't think I'll be flashing any roms of my own for my turbo anytime soon.. I like the stock feel and am happy performing my own system tweaks. Since I haven't unlocked yet stupid kingroot will "root" but won't let me mod the /system partition, so i'll have to get that out of the way first.
Have you performed that mod on the turbo or you just know the process?
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I did it back when my Turbo was running the stock rom in order to increase the in-call volume. It worked perfectly.
how would you figure out which goes with headphones?
x_zao_x said:
how would you figure out which goes with headphones?
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Google or trial and error. It's a pretty well-known and ubiquitous build.prop mod, so you'll probably be able to find it with some digging.

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